Guild Wars 2

I just want to take a second to appreciate Robert Gee. I main necro, and also play mesmer. I really like both of the specializations, and it seems like his team is invested in fixing the problems with the classes while keeping to the themes of the class. Props too him, hope all the other devs are equally invested. Keep it up.

Agreed, finally necromancers are being brought out of the dark after 3 years we might be able to see a blood magic necromancer become meta.

I feel like rubi’s emphasis on the strength of the attacks took away from the casttimes and slow attacks which players who don’t really know any better will complain about. Seems strong, but so does every other profession we’ve seen. Time will tell.

I feel like because they allowed vampiric healing to go through deathshroud it sort of makes up for having regeneration not work in deathshroud even though we can have it stolen or ripped for more damage, or converted. Now that this is in place regeneration can never work in deathshroud

I agree with that. Nice work

Jelzouki.4128:

Agreed, finally necromancers are being brought out of the dark after 3 years we might be able to see a blood magic necromancer become meta.

I feel like rubi’s emphasis on the strength of the attacks took away from the casttimes and slow attacks which players who don’t really know any better will complain about. Seems strong, but so does every other profession we’ve seen. Time will tell.

Yeah, the damaged looked decent to me, but all really easy to dodge. Think they were in celestial amulet, so hopefully the damage will be enough to make pve meta. The real strength seemed to be shroud knight cause it looks strong on every build, there is going to be some nasty condition necro builds running around.

I do not play Necro, but I also agree. Necro looks really really fun right now.

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

Supreme.3164:

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

Believe in Karl.

I totally agree. Looking at the changes for Mesmer (not just the elite but the trait rework that’s coming before HoT) shows that he’s been listening and paying attention to the ideas suggested on the forums.
Some of the reworks are very similar to generally agreed upon suggestions and even builds that don’t get much attention (boonshare) are getting very interesting forms of play. There are too many often-requested there to simply be coincidental balancing, so I respect the time spent looking through threads or just generally paying attention to our conversations.

You managed to remove traits and still increase build diversity. Much props!

rotten.9753:

Supreme.3164:

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

Believe in Karl.

God no…I won’t

Agreed. I bet everyone hopes he was in charge of their favorite profession. I was lucky with mesmer, I hope he’s on either thief or engineer as well.

Agreed. Those necro shouts are soooo good. The heal is amazing, that will get nerfed for sure. I can cancel out 1 auto attack with that heal.

I love the skilled played added to shouts by giving them huge cast times. Everyone knows this game is totally about long cast time skills. That is how you dominate. Take long cast time skills and just own people because nobody has many dodges, evades, blocks and interupts.

These shouts transform necro. It is going to sooo op. I love it. Waited 3 years for amazingly designed utilities and it was worth the wait. Do i drop signet of vampirism for the new heal? It will be close that is how sick it is.

Note to dev – please dont nerf these necro shouts after release. It will be fun trashing everyone with these sick utilities

Lordrosicky.5813:

Agreed. Those necro shouts are soooo good. The heal is amazing, that will get nerfed for sure. I can cancel out 1 auto attack with that heal.

I love the skilled played added to shouts by giving them huge cast times. Everyone knows this game is totally about long cast time skills. That is how you dominate. Take long cast time skills and just own people because nobody has many dodges, evades, blocks and interupts.

These shouts transform necro. It is going to sooo op. I love it. Waited 3 years for amazingly designed utilities and it was worth the wait. Do i drop signet of vampirism for the new heal? It will be close that is how sick it is.

Note to dev – please dont nerf these necro shouts after release. It will be fun trashing everyone with these sick utilities

Another one of your rants! I agree that the necro shouts look bad (so did the chrono wells imo). But surely you agree that the new DS and the GS skills look sick.

Supreme.3164:

rotten.9753:

Supreme.3164:

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

Believe in Karl.

God no…I won’t

Sorry friend but you really have no choice, we really have no choice. So far I might just hop on the Robert Gee train to necroville. Robert is 2/ 2 on his classes. Both Mesmer and necro look great to most people except lordwholovestorantandhasnothingbettertodothanrant.

I agree as well
And I was also impressed with both the Mesmer and Necro spec.

rotten.9753:

Supreme.3164:

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

Believe in Karl.

Hahaha…good one. I am with Supreme here. I truly wish that the dev working on ele had even the slightest clue what makes the class tick. R. Gee seems to really have a handle on the class, its weaknesses, and ways to make changes that are within the theme of the class while still shifting the playstyle significantly.

zapv.8051:

I just want to take a second to appreciate Robert Gee. I main necro, and also play mesmer. I really like both of the specializations, and it seems like his team is invested in fixing the problems with the classes while keeping to the themes of the class. Props too him, hope all the other devs are equally invested. Keep it up.

Beware what you say prior to even 1 player testing out these changes via BETA.

IMO, this was close to the LAST thing Necros wanted in a specialization.

Yes…the animations will be “interesting and cool” for a week, but think about the concept overall.

You are creating a “specialization” to have a CLOTH wearing class fight in melee range with long cast times.

I guess it could work in PvE, but NOBODY can run this in PvP unless the modifiers are so ridiculously OP.

From the Point of Interest, it didn’t look like any ability even did as much damage as a Kill Shot (which can be done from range, and adrenaline is much easier to max than LF).

In order to make such a ludicrous combination of cloth melee with no mobility and long cast times work, it’s more likely to be either severely OP or underpowered. The middle ground is impossible to fine tune.

Think about a Kill Shot warrior. How many do you see in PvP? How many can hit their Kill Shot with a long cast time even from RANGE? Imagine having such long cast times for melee? Imagine relying on LF to even be able to execute some of these melee skills compare to how quickly you can build intiative/adrenaline/etc.

Furthermore, in the point of interest, I noted one of the AOE effects could hit up to 5 target in aradius of ONLY 180. That pretty much tells you the Great Sword is strictly for PVE and not PvP .

In PvP, what necro is going to choose to fight in melee range with cloth armor and long cast times. If they do select this option for PvP, then it means the modifiers are super out of whack and/or it’s done for gimmick purposes…much like a Kill Shot warrior.

I could be wrong and equipping a GS could be the new meta, but think about it….You can already build a Chillomancer for melee range without the ridiculously long cast times. Depending on the final numbers, the great sword will either make the dagger extinct…or vice versa.

Thus, what have you really achieved? Maybe a cooler way to animate a Necro in melee using Chill as the primary condition of choice?

At this point, it’s too early to give definitive accolades or rebuke for the specific changes. However, overall, it appears that they chose a general strategy that is opposite of what Necros really wanted/needed.

While I understand your worry, I’m pretty sure what your saying won’t happen. Even if it does I think they will fix it. I’m more encouraged to see something exciting happen with the class than anything. Many players have learned to be very sour about all necro changes, which I don’t think is fair. It isn’t all perfect, but that’s ok.

Also, they had 30k health in the vid, so definitely not berserker, and a lot of their attacks where hitting for upwards of 3k. Getting the scaling right will be as easy as looking at the classes that have good scaling and emulating that. The auto attack on Reaper shroud can now stack might, inflict vuln, and burn enemies while maintaining 100% crit chance through traits alone. I’m pretty sure necros will be self buffing monsters in pve, and the traitline has potential way beyond greatsword and shouts.

SPESHAL.9106:

You are creating a “specialization” to have a CLOTH wearing class fight in melee range with long cast times.

Please stop the cloth argument…

The light armor was never the reason why necros should avoid melee, it was the lack of active defenses (dodges, blocks etc), sustain (health replenishing) and stability…

And from the looks of it the reaper will get stability and some sustain (though i admit i dont know how good it will be). But the pulsing stability on a 20 second cooldown (before cd reduction of the most likely mandetory vital persistance) is actually a really good stability skill. This could be enough for the reaper to be fine in melee range.

Muchacho.2390:

And from the looks of it the reaper will get stability and some sustain (though i admit i dont know how good it will be). But the pulsing stability on a 20 second cooldown (before cd reduction of the most likely mandetory vital persistance) is actually a really good stability skill. This could be enough for the reaper to be fine in melee range.

The only other limiting factor being acces to lifeforce… Though it seems that the traits are reasonable…
It will be interesting for sure – but the last thing I want is camping the crates/windows at Khylo to get some LF :P

I dont think im wrong by saying – thank you for taking the feedback and reworking blood magic.

While many vere concerned, since the initial necro trait changes were plain lackluster, the new DS and traits are indeed on mesmer level of awesome.

Cool looks, a theme and stuff that will actualy work in PVP. Great!

random accidential touchpad deleted my essay, this is bs why its not turned off ?
now on topic in short
- gs is good
- LF generating and shroudknight are great, now with stability and much more engaiging skills all hail Robert Gee
- shouts seemed a little apart from gs and specialzation strong suits, but interesting for necro in global terms, but i got distracted during showing them so im not sure
- lulz at guys judging damage by (im almost sure) sentinel amu
- natural predators will probably remain with still low mobility etc. especially thieves will poop on necro like always, but on what proffesion it will not with changes proposed so far? wait and see, huh? in this case i dont need, thief will dominate if this goes through like this
- animations are kitten cool but too much for pvp to be honest on top with mesmer pinky wells, guardian flashy traps and god-knows-what-else for other classes to not hurt pve single prof player feelings, I won’t ever again see magnet animation in fight, not like it is easy for me know
- overall, as far as necro alone goes, AWESOME

This is how I feel.
Robert is awsome and when he talks about a certain class,he talks about that class. He knows he is showing this to public for first time,so he is on point. Unlike Grouch,Roy (ugh I cringe when he talks about anything) and others,who constantly laugh,get distracted by smallest of things and repeat X amount of times,that everything is work in progress (here’s a tip…put WORK IN PROGRESS ON YOUR GREEN SCREEN AS BACKGROUND), Robert really delivers.

What I think about Necro’s Reaper is,if you can stow your weapon,I think that build has a potential to really play mind games with people. Question is will you be able to play mind games or will you be destroyed first?
I think they really need to give Necro a good portable skill(to get out of fight…I know you got spectral walk or wurm,but both show where you will be) or just up Lifeforce regen and give Lifeforce baseline of 25% to start with.

Robert needs to start doing rangers as well. the prof is in need of massive overhauls, and it’s been progressing at a snail’s pace.

Empty Sky.6354:

This is how I feel.
Robert is awsome and when he talks about a certain class,he talks about that class. He knows he is showing this to public for first time,so he is on point. Unlike Grouch,Roy (ugh I cringe when he talks about anything) and others,who constantly laugh,get distracted by smallest of things and repeat X amount of times,that everything is work in progress (here’s a tip…put WORK IN PROGRESS ON YOUR GREEN SCREEN AS BACKGROUND), Robert really delivers.

What I think about Necro’s Reaper is,if you can stow your weapon,I think that build has a potential to really play mind games with people. Question is will you be able to play mind games or will you be destroyed first?
I think they really need to give Necro a good portable skill(to get out of fight…I know you got spectral walk or wurm,but both show where you will be) or just up Lifeforce regen and give Lifeforce baseline of 25% to start with.

Yes, he seems like the type that is all business and play later.

I love how the girl (don’t remember her name) was cracking jokes but Robert was like “whatever, I have a presentation to do.”

Gabriell.4856:

Empty Sky.6354:

This is how I feel.
Robert is awsome and when he talks about a certain class,he talks about that class. He knows he is showing this to public for first time,so he is on point. Unlike Grouch,Roy (ugh I cringe when he talks about anything) and others,who constantly laugh,get distracted by smallest of things and repeat X amount of times,that everything is work in progress (here’s a tip…put WORK IN PROGRESS ON YOUR GREEN SCREEN AS BACKGROUND), Robert really delivers.

What I think about Necro’s Reaper is,if you can stow your weapon,I think that build has a potential to really play mind games with people. Question is will you be able to play mind games or will you be destroyed first?
I think they really need to give Necro a good portable skill(to get out of fight…I know you got spectral walk or wurm,but both show where you will be) or just up Lifeforce regen and give Lifeforce baseline of 25% to start with.

Yes, he seems like the type that is all business and play later.

I love how the girl (don’t remember her name) was cracking jokes but Robert was like “whatever, I have a presentation to do.”

Her name is Rubi.

And yes Robert gets the point. The elementalist would benefit from him.

Agreed, awesome work to Robert and the team. Great vision.

I’ve written a haiku for Robert:

I, necromancer
pledge my loyal allegiance
to Robert Gee; Boss

tbh the shouts are bad but at least we can use the existing utilities.

what i really like about robert is that he tries and takes stuff from guild wars 1 and creates something nostaligic but still new.

he took some aspects of interrupt mesmers from gw1 and combined them with the utopia chronomancer into something very exciting.

with the necro he created another nostalgic feeling (dervish) and yet still new specialisation.

if he manages to get the shouts right then everything will be perfect.

as a current elementalist player i’m kinda waiting for believe in karl’s tempest but if that fails.. well.. back to my dervish.. uhm i mean reaper.

Supreme.3164:

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

This a thousand times this.

rotten.9753:

Supreme.3164:

Can I get Robert Gee for ele too?…the ele community can pay the transfer

Believe in Karl.

pfft!

Robert can you do some work on making Mesmer Scepter less clunky? We have all these wonderful offhands but cannot take more than 1. You don’t need to buff the power of the Scepter just its responsiveness (it may even need a reduction in power if you do this).

Looking forward to Chronomancer but without a 2nd good Mainhand we’re going to struggle to enjoy Shield.

Can someone put roberts face on the reaper image instead of colins face?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/4/47/Reaper_concept_art.jpg

Edit: Nevermind. I did it in MS Paint!

Zefrost.3425:

Can someone put roberts face on the reaper image instead of colins face?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/4/47/Reaper_concept_art.jpg

Edit: Nevermind. I did it in MS Paint!

Thanks, now I’m going to have nightmares.

zapv.8051:

I just want to take a second to appreciate Robert Gee.

Yeah he is an awesome Dev.

zapv.8051:

hope all the other devs are equally invested. Keep it up.

Join Thief/Guardian/Elementalist sub-forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Give the man a pay raise. Certainly warranted

im also glad he worked on the warrior elite so that it wont be the same as ele and guardian lol, so everything robert gee worked on so far are well receive, mesmer, necro, warrior

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

im also glad he worked on the warrior elite so that it wont be the same as ele and guardian lol, so everything robert gee worked on so far are well receive, mesmer, necro, warrior

Also Mesmer, Necro and Warrior got cool names in Chronomancer, Reaper and Berserker respectively as opposed to Dragonhunter for Guradian and soon to be “Dare Devil” for Thief sadface

There was a Robert Gee appreciation thread in the mesmer forums (yes, that’s how much mesmers were impressed) saying a big thank you. Was really good till haters hated.

The magic of perspective.

The art work from Reaper is awesome and I think it will do alright in PVE also but I am not so sure in PVP, not with Greatsword anyway.

May be it can be a really good on node fighter but the Reaper will not able to hit at least 3 people with GS, I guess it is not going to be viable with GS in PVP.