Guild Wars 2

I’m in TC and to be honest with you guys, I’d be the first to say that I’m a newb when it comes to PvP. My first time ever doing PvP was in SWTOR, which I know that PvP is considered a joke. Since I enjoyed the PvP there I tried WvW over here and was actually getting tired of the running around from area to area, killing NPC’s to regain control and continue to the next point. There just wasn’t enough of the PvP going on for me so I was about to give up on WvW. The other day when I logged on I saw swords all over the map so I made my way to the closest one. Climbed up the wall to start my attack to find myself looking out into an ocean of red tags under me. I have never seen that many people before at one time in WvW and it was exhilarating and very fun. We lost some ground and got pushed back, lost the wall, but after some reinforcements came in we regained the wall and began to rebuild defenses. It was something that made me wish I had some VR gear on so I can feel like I was actually in there! I don’t know why people are complaining about, it was fun. Yea, it might suck if it was day in and day out the same thing but every now and then to have a battle like that is just awesome.

Jayne.9251:

Personally I think we should all make a big 3-server marching parade with Appledainty at the end of this week and walk with her and her Dolyak.

THIS.

Also, I wanted to say thank you to the [PRO] guild who were dueling with my friends last night while I was walking dolyaks to Bluebriar in Tarnished Coast Borderlands. Clovenhorn (the southern camp dolyak) appreciates you that you did not kill him.

Usagi.4835:

When I said that we want to go to Tier 2 and get spanked, I mean that we will get there, get thoroughly stomped, hopefully learn something and improve! THAT is the sole reason why people want to move up to Tier 2 atm. We KNOW we will get stomped, almost certainly. But we also know that we’re not ready. But even so, what’s important is learning from the experience.

Usagi.4835:

I don’t understand why you can’t take what I say at face value, like I must be lying or twisting the truth.

I’m merely pointing out that some things that you are saying are contradictory and don’t make sense. For example, you mention that your server is not “ready” to get stomped. So, how does one become “ready” to be stomped??

Let me put it this way: do you say to yourselves, “Okay guys. We’re not ready this week to get stomped, but we may be ready next week to get stomped!”? Are you learning tactics and strategies now that will help you get stomped? Are you trying to improve as a server so that you will be more prepared to be stomped?? What can you possibly do now to assist you when you get stomped?

Does that make sense to you? It shouldn’t, because every server is ready to get stomped. That’s how you learn and improve!

I don’t agree with Rhonyn that TC is ready for tier 2 for reasons stated above. I do think you all need more coverage. But when I read posts like your’s that explain that TC doesn’t want to go to tier 2 to get stomped because they aren’t ready but not due to lack of numbers, that raises a big, red flag that there are other reasons why you don’t want to be in teir 2. A plausable one could be that you simply can’t do it, so you decide instead to farm easy wins.

Finally, I’m not sidestepping anything. I’m simply letting our words speak for themselves.

rhonyn.6810:

Usagi.4835:

When I said that we want to go to Tier 2 and get spanked, I mean that we will get there, get thoroughly stomped, hopefully learn something and improve! THAT is the sole reason why people want to move up to Tier 2 atm. We KNOW we will get stomped, almost certainly. But we also know that we’re not ready. But even so, what’s important is learning from the experience.

I think you are under estimating TC. Numbers have changed a lot over the last 2 months, many people have left/playing less, including many of the “hardcore” wvw guilds. You may suffer score wise in t2 due to some off-peak gaps (relative to other t1/2 servers), but if you are fielding 4 full/nearly full maps its hard to see how you could not be competitive during those periods (in fact prolly more competitive then FA/CD are with TC during peak, as we seemingly field ~1/2? your numbers globally). Issues with off-peak coverage gaps won’t be corrected with practice/communication unfortunately, but your prime time group would have more to do at least.

Despite all the chest thumping GW2 wvw scoring/tiers is primarily driven by numbers….you got em. Changing tiers now is harder though as we’ve had weeks of servers being put in some rough buckets, so blow outs (leading to large rating gains/losses) are rarer in the upper tiers (minus xfer wild cards) so there is less dramatic movements.

Maybe stomped is too strong a word. We haven’t faced either SoR or BG in a while. But I remember both servers being very quick to respond and act when the matches reset. Fielding four full/nearly full maps is a rarity. At most, I’ve seen us with two or three maps that have queues. And that was the other night when we were having a crisis in TCBL. There was a queue on FABL and EB and, later, TCBL.

Numbers become less significant if you’re just rolling around the map in a single zerg, hoping to cap things one at a time. I still think planning and organisation is pivotal.

I am a member of TC. Personally, I am enjoying the battle with CD and FA. Last night was some of the most fun that I’ve had in WvW. We had a zerg vs zerg standoff with CD for 2+ hours outside QL and Dane. There was siege and counter siege on both sides and no one was really gaining ground. Just a lot of fun.

I hope the great battles keep going.

JakobGW.5730:

Next week will the be 7th week in a row that TC has been at the top of tier 3, never advancing up the tiers and fighting the same three servers over the course of almost two months: CD, FA, YB. I don’t see any amount of teamwork that’s going to get you to teir (sic) 2.

The fights are fun. Should I care about anything else?

Great fight over SM the past 2 hours. Shame one mesmer utility is the factor on whether or not we keep the castle. :| Bravo for managing to hide your mesmer in there for 20 minutes TC, legit or not. >_>

JakobGW.5730:

I don’t agree with Rhonyn that TC is ready for tier 2 for reasons stated above. I do think you all need more coverage. But when I read posts like your’s that explain that TC doesn’t want to go to tier 2 to get stomped because they aren’t ready but not due to lack of numbers, that raises a big, red flag that there are other reasons why you don’t want to be in teir 2. A plausable one could be that you simply can’t do it, so you decide instead to farm easy wins.

I think you’ve got two problems here…
1. The TC community isn’t operating with a hivemind.
2. A significant percentage of the TC community, if not the majority, doesn’t share your mentality or priorities.

To quote Sharpclaw, “The fights are fun. Should I care about anything else?”

Which pretty much sums up my own view on the matter. If we go to tier 2, fine. If we don’t, fine. As long as it’s fun, I’m not that worried about it. I have no driving ambition to climb the ladder at all costs. If things become stale, my attitude might shift… but, as I’m generally on during off-peak hours, and I’m still learning the ropes, I’m probably gonna be one of the last people to get weary of any status quo.

In any event, in my own case, a consideration like “farming” isn’t even on my radar. And I think that’s probably true of most TC players. The options, as you present them, appear to be:

1. Gun for Tier 2.
2. Farm Tier 3.

But those just aren’t the only options. A lot of people just don’t look at it that way.

JakobGW.5730:

Usagi.4835:

When I said that we want to go to Tier 2 and get spanked, I mean that we will get there, get thoroughly stomped, hopefully learn something and improve! THAT is the sole reason why people want to move up to Tier 2 atm. We KNOW we will get stomped, almost certainly. But we also know that we’re not ready. But even so, what’s important is learning from the experience.

Usagi.4835:

I don’t understand why you can’t take what I say at face value, like I must be lying or twisting the truth.

I’m merely pointing out that some things that you are saying are contradictory and don’t make sense. For example, you mention that your server is not “ready” to get stomped. So, how does one become “ready” to be stomped??

Let me put it this way: do you say to yourselves, “Okay guys. We’re not ready this week to get stomped, but we may be ready next week to get stomped!”? Are you learning tactics and strategies now that will help you get stomped? Are you trying to improve as a server so that you will be more prepared to be stomped?? What can you possibly do now to assist you when you get stomped?

Does that make sense to you? It shouldn’t, because every server is ready to get stomped. That’s how you learn and improve!

I don’t agree with Rhonyn that TC is ready for tier 2 for reasons stated above. I do think you all need more coverage. But when I read posts like your’s that explain that TC doesn’t want to go to tier 2 to get stomped because they aren’t ready but not due to lack of numbers, that raises a big, red flag that there are other reasons why you don’t want to be in teir 2. A plausable one could be that you simply can’t do it, so you decide instead to farm easy wins.

Finally, I’m not sidestepping anything. I’m simply letting our words speak for themselves.

Where did I say we’re not ready to get stomped? I said we need to get stomped so we toughen up and get better. This might happen in Tier 2 if we move up for one week. Even if we’re not ready, we’ll come away and hopefully learn something. This will continue until we advance into T2 and are in a position to actually be competitive there.

You don’t even need to get ready to get stomped; you just go in and play like an idiot and you’ll get stomped. Why would I say something like that? I don’t know where you got any of that because I didn’t say it. This is why I’ve repeated things.

So I’ll say it again. We WANT to go to Tier 2 to get spanked and fall back down to Tier 3. Because it’ll force people to wake up and stop being complacent and get out of their comfort zone. That improves organisation which will be needed to compete in Tier 2. But right now, we DON’T THINK we are ready to be competitive in Tier 2.

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Hydrophidian.4319:

If we go to tier 2, fine. If we don’t, fine. As long as it’s fun, I’m not that worried about it.

I’ll piggyback on this to add that ‘fun’ for me doesn’t even necessarily mean winning. It means fighting good opponents. If we go to Tier 2 and get out faces caved in, I’m not going to care much so long as the fights are exciting.

Sharpclaw.7510:

Hydrophidian.4319:

If we go to tier 2, fine. If we don’t, fine. As long as it’s fun, I’m not that worried about it.

I’ll piggyback on this to add that ‘fun’ for me doesn’t even necessarily mean winning. It means fighting good opponents. If we go to Tier 2 and get out faces caved in, I’m not going to care much so long as the fights are exciting.

Exactly.

The time frame in which I often play means that what qualifies as “winning” has to be… rethought a bit. ‘Cuz it’s not gonna involve ERMAHGERDZERG type expansion, that’s for sure.

For me, it’s been mostly about holding the line more effectively and efficiently. And this week has made it clear to me that we, as a larger community, still stand to learn a lot from being right where we are.

A big thumbs up to the FA d/d ele i fought at heroes camp in TCbl for 10-15min, thats the most impresive d/d eleing iwe seen, and though you dident get me down as a support ele, i can say if my friends hadent came so i could rest my fingers youd won lol… !

Miriel

Hectoncheir.4210:

Rejoice in the glory of the squid!
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Glory to the squid! Long live the fighters!

@CD guild [THE] sorry I had to lead you around for awhile before I killed your merry trio, was on the phone and then my headphones broke. Glad you found me after I had them fixed though. /salute

Furienify.5738:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

I figured TC would have a bit more class.

I needed a couple events for my daily so I head into TC borderlands which is pretty much empty. I intercept a dolyak and kill it, one event down. Kill a sentry, another down.

At this time a random warrior decided he wanted to fight me, fair enough. I kite a bit to get my health up and he goes down fairly quickly. As I just finish stomping him, a thief decides to join in. Once again I kite him a bit to get my health up, and he goes down fairly quickly. At this point a group of somewhere between 10 and 15 decides they were going to fight. They eventually kill me but not until after I get a kill of my own.

As I finally go down I’m treated to a nice bit of /laugh from TC. After killing 3 and eventually being taken down by 10 people.

Stay classy.

Let me guess. It was a Thief with the [TSP] tag, right? He’s been /laughing whenever our zerg rolls over smaller numbers all through the CDBL and TCBL fights. I don’t think many of us like him all that much, either.

Edit: Hey, CD, d’you guys still have that Naughty Ninja Squad [Poo] around?

Dunno if it was a thief but it was a TSP tag.

Akisame.9508:

I’m in TC and to be honest with you guys, I’d be the first to say that I’m a newb when it comes to PvP. My first time ever doing PvP was in SWTOR, which I know that PvP is considered a joke. Since I enjoyed the PvP there I tried WvW over here and was actually getting tired of the running around from area to area, killing NPC’s to regain control and continue to the next point. There just wasn’t enough of the PvP going on for me so I was about to give up on WvW. The other day when I logged on I saw swords all over the map so I made my way to the closest one. Climbed up the wall to start my attack to find myself looking out into an ocean of red tags under me. I have never seen that many people before at one time in WvW and it was exhilarating and very fun. We lost some ground and got pushed back, lost the wall, but after some reinforcements came in we regained the wall and began to rebuild defenses. It was something that made me wish I had some VR gear on so I can feel like I was actually in there! I don’t know why people are complaining about, it was fun. Yea, it might suck if it was day in and day out the same thing but every now and then to have a battle like that is just awesome.

Welcome to WvW! Do feel free to ask questions in /map chat, in general our WvW community is extremely friendly. Hope to see more people on TC like you giving WvW a shot, we could really use the Oceanic time coverage

As with most things, the more you spend time in WvW the better you’ll get at it .. hope to see you around!

What Rhongo said.

Welcome to WvW! We always need more people and could use every help we could get!

Akisame.9508:

I’m in TC and to be honest with you guys, I’d be the first to say that I’m a newb when it comes to PvP. My first time ever doing PvP was in SWTOR, which I know that PvP is considered a joke. Since I enjoyed the PvP there I tried WvW over here and was actually getting tired of the running around from area to area, killing NPC’s to regain control and continue to the next point. There just wasn’t enough of the PvP going on for me so I was about to give up on WvW. The other day when I logged on I saw swords all over the map so I made my way to the closest one. Climbed up the wall to start my attack to find myself looking out into an ocean of red tags under me. I have never seen that many people before at one time in WvW and it was exhilarating and very fun. We lost some ground and got pushed back, lost the wall, but after some reinforcements came in we regained the wall and began to rebuild defenses. It was something that made me wish I had some VR gear on so I can feel like I was actually in there! I don’t know why people are complaining about, it was fun. Yea, it might suck if it was day in and day out the same thing but every now and then to have a battle like that is just awesome.

I share similar feelings with the difference that this is my first MMO and well, WvWvW is my actual first PvP experience, apart from whatever 2-3 UT3 or Quake 3 CTF matches I’ve played some 8-9 years back and just gave up! I started showing up while we TC had the worst of the moments with servers like SoR/BG and I got really motivated to continue here. My first motivation has been to get Gift of Battle for my legendary which I already got a month ago, yet I halted legendary for now and pushing myself to further improve at W3. I am a noob and most often die in a 1v1 scenario and I don’t feel ashamed to admit it. GW2 was advertised for casuals, and I joined in to get away from the “elitist” attitude, but alas… as long as there’s PvP involved, that attitude will always follow you. Fortunately though, as I keep improving and help my server improve overall, I could hardly give two hoots about what someone thinks of me as an individual. I could sPvP for that, am here for my server and that’s about it.

Enjoy the grander level of battles that is WvWvW!

So about 15 TC just rolled through a supply camp.

8 of them are d/d ele’s

thats more than 50% running flavor of the month D/D ele’s.

This is getting ridiculous.

TheFug.5278:

So about 15 TC just rolled through a supply camp.

8 of them are d/d ele’s

thats more than 50% running flavor of the month D/D ele’s.

This is getting ridiculous.

Yeah d/d is pretty popular, but to be honest, I feel like there isn’t really a better build for elementalists atm. Would you rather I twiddle my staff, lay on my back, and give you free badges? I mean, damn, I used to be a staff ele, but after playing d/d, I don’t wanna go back.

Feydra.6318:

A big thumbs up to the FA d/d ele i fought at heroes camp in TCbl for 10-15min, thats the most impresive d/d eleing iwe seen, and though you dident get me down as a support ele, i can say if my friends hadent came so i could rest my fingers youd won lol… !

Miriel

that was me =P. You refused to die at the bottom supply camp for 5minutes, while I rambo kited your NPC squadron>_>.
That whole battle was 35mins (from me jumping into a squad of 30 cappers solo, to running away). I think I killed 5 of you guys before I had to run away and afk for something important to do.

Staff ele is far better for group support than D/D, but unfortunately you have to basically be a full support class and dedicate yourself to nothing but popping clutch heal blasts and AOE cc / fonting downeds. Not a lot of badges involved in it, and it gets old.

Awesomesauce.9528:

TheFug.5278:

So about 15 TC just rolled through a supply camp.

8 of them are d/d ele’s

thats more than 50% running flavor of the month D/D ele’s.

This is getting ridiculous.

Yeah d/d is pretty popular, but to be honest, I feel like there isn’t really a better build for elementalists atm. Would you rather I twiddle my staff, lay on my back, and give you free badges? I mean, damn, I used to be a staff ele, but after playing d/d, I don’t wanna go back.

DD ele is just FoTM at the moment

I fought a staff based tank elementalist on SoR that was harder to defeat, counter and pin down than any DD ele. He was just a league above, and not using the cookie cutter spec.

That’s not so say DD ele’s aren’t ridiculously annoying if you don’t know when to dodge or evade the only attacks they have that actually hurt, or you face a team of 3 or more. ^^

Folks tend to go with whatever is perceived as the ‘best’, or most powerful. Hence why you see a lot of thieves and mesmers in WvW (because stealth is a very powerful mechanic in WvW, as are portals), and now DD ele’s. On the other hand, you see fewer engineers, necromancers and rangers in WvW because they (currently) do not offer the versatility, utility or advantages that those 3 prior classes do. It doesn’t mean they’re not viable – people just tend to gravitate towards whatever grants them the greatest advantage, or least frustration. Playing a ranger can be very frustrating

~Nyari Cil, Queen of EB

TheFug.5278:

Staff ele is far better for group support than D/D, but unfortunately you have to basically be a full support class and dedicate yourself to nothing but popping clutch heal blasts and AOE cc / fonting downeds. Not a lot of badges involved in it, and it gets old.

Lol, basically. Staff eles are great for tower defenses and the ilk, but in terms of fighting like 1v1, I feel useless.

Eles just don’t have much to look forward to in my opinion. Scepters? They’re okay, but not great. Focuses? Looks like it’s treb guard duty for you. Staffs? Plant dat AoE fire, plant dat AoE heal, plant dat AoE… you get the point. Daggers, to me, are just way more fun.

daphoenix.4283

im pretty hard to kill for a staff ele, i got 1.7k healing power and just defensive and support build, i make everything tick green around me,i knew i couldent kill you unless out of bordom, and you were to smart to stay to long among the npcs, in any case amacing work as a d/d ele, iwe seen alot, but your the best so far… ill keep my staff build i like it, and i give alot of staying power to all those around me !

And a big thanks to Fa and Cd, we love to hate each other, or is it a hate love relationship, lol, good fights all in all !

TheFug.5278:

So about 15 CD/FA/whatever just rolled through a supply camp.

8 of them are hammer warriors/guardians

thats more than 50% running flavor of the month knockdown spam builds.

This is getting ridiculous.

There, fixed it for you.

I’d be willing to bet most of the D/D elementalists you see are recent converts to the dark side. Staff may be “better” for support, but it’s hard to support much if you’re dead. Focus is just horrible except for blocking projectiles. Scepter is ok, but useless against fotm thieves (the other 50% of WvW population). That leaves D/D as the best all around option, until you meet a class with some CC or boon removal, then it’s still the best option since you might at least be able to escape.

Some stuff on topic:
That was some epic fun on TCBL the other night, I don’t mind the 2v1, it’s a refreshing change. For the last couple weeks I’ve gotten the impression our enemies are scared of our BL, probably our fault for defending so tenaciously, but I won’t appologize for that ;p.

Vagrant.1094:

DD ele is just FoTM at the moment

I don’t think it’s that simple.

WvW had nothing to do with my shift to D/D. And I shifted before it became a ‘thing’.

I shifted because I found, through play, that it was, as a default, the most viable and effective option for the widest array of situations.

I still carry around the other weapons, but they’re for highly situational uses.

I think a lot of Elementalists will stick with D/D as a default unless and until some tinkering is done to the other options. FOTM won’t have much, if anything, to do with it.

phaneo.4597:

Nobody on TC is crying about 2v1,

Saw quite a lot of people on TC crying about it, and assuming it was a thing. Also saw some embracing the challenge but the point is you don’t speak for everybody.

I still can’t get a straight answer about who exactly was in on it, if anyone. Got some “FA is willing to sabotage themselves if it means TC isn’t first place” but that’s still not the cross server communication I’m looking for.

Does anyone on TC consider it a 2v1 alliance against you if both parties are just doing their own thing independently? If so I’d like to start up my QQ about the TC FA alliance against CD, and make it known that the CD TC alliance against FA is well deserved- they know what they did.

Jayne.9251:

Personally I think we should all make a big 3-server marching parade with Appledainty at the end of this week and walk with her and her Dolyak.

At last! The diabolical TC CD FA alliance! Now there’s truly no combination left!

Bullkitten conspiracies aside this sounds like a fun little (HUGE) goofything to do. Anybody got some video recording software ready?

fishergrip.4082:

I don’t really want to go up to T2, but I do think its kind of absurd you can win your matchup for 2 months straight and still not be close to moving up. Losing points when you win your matchup is a bit dumb.

The thing is they are winning less than they were before. Essentially they are getting closer to losing. It sucks for the other servers to not win for so long but currently we’re doing better against TC. Whoever was leading them in CD BL has shown that they have some bigger guns to bring out when they’re threatened but against the general population we’re still a better match than TC vs the T2 servers would be. Do you think they should be mismatched just to stop them from doing very well for a week?

Stonesolid.2706:

I have a lot of respect for TC and honestly CD has brought better fights than YB but they should’ve left their drama and alliance offers in T4.

FA made the offer on page 2 by Derv the Monkinator. I have no idea if he is a commander on the server or even in a reputable guild.

Usagi.4835:

Because people are painfully aware that, though TC has the numbers required for T2, there is still a lot of work to be done with regards to teamwork and organisation?

I would like to propose… an alliance…
in figuring out how to get better play from the general populace of our servers.

How willing do you think you average player would be in learning another class?

Raf.1078:

Niim.9260:

Hekatombaion.4320:

It’s presumed that as a corpse you are spying for a larger group. It’s dirty to not release, you have only sinister reasons to not release.

Is it just me, or does anyone else always find these good times to go afk, get a drink, use the bathroom, talk with the wife, etc, etc. I love coming back to people still standing around my corpse while I was eating my supper and watching TV.

Thats when I take my breaks. Spying?…please…its kitten video game…I’ll map when I’m ready to play again. But I really don’t care what you’re doing while I’m taking a few minutes to do whatever.

Get off my lawn.

Awesomesauce.9528:

Lol, basically. Staff eles are great for tower defenses and the ilk, but in terms of fighting like 1v1, I feel useless.

Eles just don’t have much to look forward to in my opinion. Scepters? They’re okay, but not great. Focuses? Looks like it’s treb guard duty for you. Staffs? Plant dat AoE fire, plant dat AoE heal, plant dat AoE… you get the point. Daggers, to me, are just way more fun.

I thought d/d was for running away from groups.

Thrashbarg.9820:

TheFug.5278:

So about 15 CD/FA/whatever just rolled through a supply camp.

8 of them are hammer warriors/guardians

thats more than 50% running flavor of the month knockdown spam builds.

This is getting ridiculous.

There, fixed it for you.

I’d be willing to bet most of the D/D elementalists you see are recent converts to the dark side. Staff may be “better” for support, but it’s hard to support much if you’re dead. Focus is just horrible except for blocking projectiles. Scepter is ok, but useless against fotm thieves (the other 50% of WvW population). That leaves D/D as the best all around option, until you meet a class with some CC or boon removal, then it’s still the best option since you might at least be able to escape.

Some stuff on topic:
That was some epic fun on TCBL the other night, I don’t mind the 2v1, it’s a refreshing change. For the last couple weeks I’ve gotten the impression our enemies are scared of our BL, probably our fault for defending so tenaciously, but I won’t appologize for that ;p.

Knockdown spam is easily stopped.

Wonder why so many people complain about our updraft and earthquake then.

I like Tier 3!

Last week Magooooma accused me of “no lifeing the forums” ….. but this week it moves too fast for me to keep up.

I think TC is an awesome server to go up against. They are much improved from when CD fought them last time, and getting better each day. Like someone else mentioned, as an RP server, they’ll likely get even stronger after the winter’s day event.

CD has been growing and getting stronger since our drop to tier 4. KH guild has really helped turn things around for us, and I’m proud of the way we’ve taken the fight to TC as much as we can. 2nd place is pretty good considering we were labeled as a “mindless zerg server” with no skill by the jealous Magooomas.

FA is a great server, reminds me of Yaks bend. Kinda crazy and unpredictable. Too bad they don’t seem organized enough to hold to an alliance that could really benefit both 2nd and 3rd place. Very skilled on the battle field though!

All in all I’m really happy CD was able to move back up to this tier. FA and TC are much more classy and challenging servers to be up against then the people in tier 4.

You stole my “Magooooooooma”!!

Hekatombaion.4320:

phaneo.4597:

Nobody on TC is crying about 2v1,

Saw quite a lot of people on TC crying about it, and assuming it was a thing. Also saw some embracing the challenge but the point is you don’t speak for everybody.

Care to quote the posts than just shooting in the air that “quite a lot of people on TC are crying about 2v1”? The majority, hell 99% of posters here that I know from TC, don’t even care if its 2v1. If you want to see real 2v1 accusations and crying, perhaps you should take a look back to the last 3 weeks of TC/FA/YB? OR… more familiar example that I’m sure you could remember was TC/CD/YB where CD JP campers were kitten that TC & YB wouldn’t kill each other out there. We have lots of evidences to prove it, numerous posts, every week the threads got closed due to continuous derailing of discussion with endless rants about some imaginary alliance; here some CD & FA commanders or whoever have clearly admitted or just trolled about 2v1 AFTER WE, TC, HAVE BEGGED for an alliance to keep us feel challenged. Now here we are, again discussing about it making some baseless ridiculous statements that “quite a lot on TC are crying over 2v1”. Quote the posts kitten that proves quite a lot are crying and only a few are happy about the challenge, where I can prove its the opposite.

Edit: Wow, F F S got replaced by kitten, gg Anet!

Yarr, it be a good week.

Many o’ bags o’ plunder.

Thrashbarg.9820:

TheFug.5278:

So about 15 CD/FA/whatever just rolled through a supply camp.

8 of them are hammer warriors/guardians

thats more than 50% running flavor of the month knockdown spam builds.

This is getting ridiculous.

There, fixed it for you.

I’d be willing to bet most of the D/D elementalists you see are recent converts to the dark side. Staff may be “better” for support, but it’s hard to support much if you’re dead. Focus is just horrible except for blocking projectiles. Scepter is ok, but useless against fotm thieves (the other 50% of WvW population). That leaves D/D as the best all around option, until you meet a class with some CC or boon removal, then it’s still the best option since you might at least be able to escape.

Some stuff on topic:
That was some epic fun on TCBL the other night, I don’t mind the 2v1, it’s a refreshing change. For the last couple weeks I’ve gotten the impression our enemies are scared of our BL, probably our fault for defending so tenaciously, but I won’t appologize for that ;p.

I laughed harder than I should have at this quote. Personally I’m loving the challenge behind the 2v1, it gives something for our day crew to do! (TC)

I haven’t been on yet today or seen score, but I’m almost certain that unless CD can maintain their hold 24/7 until reset, first place is pretty much held by TC. I WOULD love to see FA make a push for second though, I get excited when I see the two scores get close, and I really do love the 1v1v1 situations most. FA has the potential to get a lot of work done and push ahead of CD, and I feel that CD is more than capable of defending from such a thing.

This is not me complaining about 2v1, its just me saying I enjoy the idea of it being more than just us against one big group.

Hekatombaion.4320:

Jayne.9251:

Personally I think we should all make a big 3-server marching parade with Appledainty at the end of this week and walk with her and her Dolyak.

At last! The diabolical TC CD FA alliance! Now there’s truly no combination left!

Bullkitten conspiracies aside this sounds like a fun little (HUGE) goofything to do. Anybody got some video recording software ready?

See? I’d love to see something goofy like this happen

But then y’know, someone would scratch their ear, or cough, …. and a bloodbath would ensue. Sigh.

But it’d be a stellar way to end the week, and video of it would be awesome.

Dolores.5471:

You stole my “Magooooooooma”!!

LoL… it was too good to pass up!

I play on TC(Ableit baddly), and Im going to do a ‘tell all’ here, We, TC, do not 2v1, we do not have the mind for it, keeping a running count on whom is whom and what we said we would do and not do, and the points and all of that, its too much to keep up with.

‘Our’ (my guilds) target of oppertunity is FA, eleven pages and growing and you can see why before it was FA it was YB on our w v w nights, ohh those nice fights at greenvaile.

Anyhow, I was saying that we do not 2v1 anyone, we are far more dastardly, WE 1-v-2 in WvW, that is right, we have made a treaty with ourselfs not to attack TC, we have tried but, we are just too green…

phaneo.4597:

Hekatombaion.4320:

phaneo.4597:

Nobody on TC is crying about 2v1,

Saw quite a lot of people on TC crying about it, and assuming it was a thing. Also saw some embracing the challenge but the point is you don’t speak for everybody.

Care to quote the posts than just shooting in the air that “quite a lot of people on TC are crying about 2v1”? The majority, hell 99% of posters here that I know from TC, don’t even care if its 2v1. If you want to see real 2v1 accusations and crying, perhaps you should take a look back to the last 3 weeks of TC/FA/YB? OR… more familiar example that I’m sure you could remember was TC/CD/YB where CD JP campers were kitten that TC & YB wouldn’t kill each other out there. We have lots of evidences to prove it, numerous posts, every week the threads got closed due to continuous derailing of discussion with endless rants about some imaginary alliance; here some CD & FA commanders or whoever have clearly admitted or just trolled about 2v1 AFTER WE, TC, HAVE BEGGED for an alliance to keep us feel challenged. Now here we are, again discussing about it making some baseless ridiculous statements that “quite a lot on TC are crying over 2v1”. Quote the posts kitten that proves quite a lot are crying and only a few are happy about the challenge, where I can prove its the opposite.

Edit: Wow, F F S got replaced by kitten, gg Anet!

Weird, you kept the part after it where I explain what the point is but you miss it anyway?

Hell, I’m not doing anything important right now:

FA and CD is trying to form an alliance against TC? Wow, that is definitely not intended gameplay.

If that alliance worked, and TC moved to 2nd or 3rd place at the end of the match ups, what would that do exactly? Cause all three servers to play against each other for even more matches, which would force FA and CD to keep their alliance.

Does that make sense? I understand it may be hard to fight TC right now. It may be tempting to form an alliance to “crush us”. But in all honesty, it will just be hurting you in the long run. And it may even hurt T4 (if you were to push TC down a tier due to 2v1) because TC would COMPLETELY demolish that tier. Do you see how this creates unbalance?

DivineBeing.2086:

I do understand that random pugs aren’t going to know about the alliance most likely. And that’s expected. But if an alliance does form, than the result will still be the same (outlined in my original post). This result is not good for ANY server.

Do not try to control the market :/.

Sunspots.9861:

Why do you guys care about the score anyways. If it was a case of not even being able to leave your spawn because the cruel TCers were camping all spawns and holding everything on the map, then I get the angst, but its not that way at all.

Karuna.1357:

So FA . . . I see that CD has wiped you off the face of Eternal Battlegrounds. How is that supposed alliance working out for you?

sceptus.9415:

I wouldn’t mind if we lost a match at all. We could use a lesson. The question is, will it silence all the ignorant posts or we will just be subjected to more chest-bashing and insults?

DemonCow.5328:

I also can’t wait to see when you guys finally turn on each other if it starts to look like Yak’s Bend might move back up into 9th.

Teege.4623:

I’d like to take bets on who will backstab who first, CD or FA?

Six pages in and I’m losing the will to keep scanning for this crap. I was trimming some of them to fit but I didn’t even make it to the part where TC players decided to retaliate for “the alliance.”

Due to the inflammatory tone of this thread, it will be closed. Please keep in mind that if you want to discuss issues on our forums, you have to do it in a constructive way.