Guild Wars 2

lani.7431:

DB is focusing SOS more for one reason only… revenge. Doesn’t matter if the original guilds from back then are different. Those who were left behind and people who came after hearing about what happened hold a grudge. All around fun fights this week though I hope next week continues to be the same. This week is alot more balanced then the past week. It’s hard being the middle guy stuck in a tier for weeks on end but if this is the match up we will get more consistantly I for one will be happy.

The best part is we get to a bit of Revenge fighting SoS… Plus we get to watching all the Bandwagoners who jumped to BG still get stomped by JQ. Justice has been served in so many ways.

All the real SoS players are still fighting on SoS. Just a lot of them have gone inactive.

When the new WvW update comes. Maybe that’ll entice them back and it will be a game changer for SoS.

In the meantime. Fun fights! Nice having SM now and then instead of not at all.

just beecause your loosing doesnt mean your being focus’ed. just means you probly dont belong in this tier. you enjoy being in the top of Tier 4, yet kitten about being in tier 3 know you no how the other 2 servers in tier 4 feel.

@Krew/DB BL defenders

Really fun fights on DB borderland today. [Fang] is having a great time learning and getting better in WvW. See you in game again.

Cheers

Luvpie

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

Pendragon.8735:

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.

/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.

If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D

BP left in the first couple weeks and eventually came back to DB.(went to a lower tier for less queues.) My thoughts are the only way to beat the 1st place server in a tier is to take their PPT. That translates to a us gaining points and the 1st place losing those same points, essentially doubling out point gain.

for example: DB takes a 25 point keep from yaks who are third, this gives DB 25 points and subtracts 25 from yaks while SOS is still getting all their points, so DB only gets a net 25 points on the leader. Where if DB takes a 25 point keep from SOS then we gain those 25 points and SOS loses them giving DB a net gain of 50 points on the leader.

The 3rd place team also should be focusing the 1st place team which keeps the match tighter and gives the 3rd place team a chance at coming in first in a match. Again for the same reason of reducing the 1st place teams lead. Putting the focus on the second place team only allows a sever to reach 2nd.

Had alot of fun today defending our bls and EB tonight. keep up the great fights this has been the most even matchup we had in the last few weeks. lots of fun

BTW, SOS tht golem rush u did to SM was such an epic fight!

Glad to see t3 a more enjoyable place to be now. We just had too many numbers in NA PT to make it fun. The march patch could end up screwing over balance again so enjoy it whilst it lasts.

Pendragon.8735:

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

DB had a few WvW focussed guilds move from the server in about mid-october. They mostly moved to SoS where they have been for the last four or five months until a week or two ago when a couple moved to BG.

This is the first time DB and SoS have faced off against each other since (although SoS is different from what it was then).

EnRohbi.2187:

Pendragon.8735:

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.

/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.

If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D

To be fair, db were getting belted for weeks even before they left. Actually I think that was largely the reason for their departure.

At this moment SoS is running around EB capping everything with a zerg of 40 maybe? DB is done, YB has 2 (read: “two”) defenders. Competition at it’s finest. Normally we’d have more at this time even on a Sunday night, but nobody wants to play against this. I can’t believe that this setup is fun for anybody, including the mighty night zerg which has nobody to fight besides guards.

Score update, loving the fights

sudopudge.7215:

At this moment SoS is running around EB capping everything with a zerg of 40 maybe? DB is done, YB has 2 (read: “two”) defenders. Competition at it’s finest. Normally we’d have more at this time even on a Sunday night, but nobody wants to play against this. I can’t believe that this setup is fun for anybody, including the mighty night zerg which has nobody to fight besides guards.

It did lull me into something of a trance running in that zerg but players can’t help it if playing at this time is convenient for them, stupid system… though I do remember we had fun with Bravost, DB clung to that and wouldn’t let go. 2 trebs, 5+ catas later we finally broke that wall…

Diashame.6328:

Glad to see t3 a more enjoyable place to be now. We just had too many numbers in NA PT to make it fun. The march patch could end up screwing over balance again so enjoy it whilst it lasts.

GO BACK TO T2 WHERE YOU BELONG!!!!!

Just kidding, I personally love fighting [RET] but I hope it is a while before we see you again. This match up is almost balanced compared to DB being in between a weak t2 server(no offense) and a strong t4 server.

edit: this was posted before NNK-oclock in the TFV time zone :P

Looks like SoS is stabilizing itself as a tier 2.5 server now.

sudopudge.7215:

At this moment SoS is running around EB capping everything with a zerg of 40 maybe? DB is done, YB has 2 (read: “two”) defenders. Competition at it’s finest. Normally we’d have more at this time even on a Sunday night, but nobody wants to play against this. I can’t believe that this setup is fun for anybody, including the mighty night zerg which has nobody to fight besides guards.

I think it would be fun for them if they were in a higher tier like they used to be where they had the complimenting coverage for all time zones. But when one time zone largely evacuates a server like happened on SoS, it really leaves them in a terrible place to ever find a good tier to hang in.

It’s not their fault other people left their server, but at the same time does create this odd situation, where they win or lose depending if they dominate in their times more than they get dominated in the opposite. Looked like DB could hang with them Sat night, but now its back to near 600 PPT tonight.

I really don’t know the solution other than a server like that has to recruit more, or if they can’t move back up, just get bored with so much PvDoor that they disperse some to find more challenge.

The original HoD of course got so bored of winning or bored enough that drama started, they broke up and spread out, which ended up to the benefit of the game in increasing competition. As long as Anet refuses to make mechanics to alleviate this, it will be on the playerbase to solve it, by stop dog piling so much on a couple servers at certain time zones, but they have to want to.

Massive props the Dragonbrand Oceanic/SEA crew. Truly amazing fights at a scale that Only Foo and WM can match. The guilds that say there are no good oceanic fights below t1 Cough ND, MERC Cough have no idea what the blazes they’re talking about. If you guys could get some more numbers and greater coverage you would give those guilds a run for their money. Loving t3 so far, not looking forward to jumping back up again.

Tobias Steele.2071:

EnRohbi.2187:

Pendragon.8735:

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.

/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.

If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D

To be fair, db were getting belted for weeks even before they left. Actually I think that was largely the reason for their departure.

I don’t remember that to be true :P
I remember two waves of guilds leaving about a week or two apart, and I remember sitting pretty at the very top of tier 3 (One rank above where we’ve gotten back to now) and us winning pretty consistently before the guilds left. The second wave of guilds being the ones who left for SoS.

What I’d been told (As I wasn’t in one of the guilds that left, my information was largely second hand) was the main reason for the departure was that SoS already had a strong Oceanic presence and they were trying to stack a server with 24/7 coverage.

EDIT: Of course, 6 months later the smaller details hardly make a difference.

Pendragon.8735:

sudopudge.7215:

At this moment SoS is running around EB capping everything with a zerg of 40 maybe? DB is done, YB has 2 (read: “two”) defenders. Competition at it’s finest. Normally we’d have more at this time even on a Sunday night, but nobody wants to play against this. I can’t believe that this setup is fun for anybody, including the mighty night zerg which has nobody to fight besides guards.

I think it would be fun for them if they were in a higher tier like they used to be where they had the complimenting coverage for all time zones. But when one time zone largely evacuates a server like happened on SoS, it really leaves them in a terrible place to ever find a good tier to hang in.

It’s not their fault other people left their server, but at the same time does create this odd situation, where they win or lose depending if they dominate in their times more than they get dominated in the opposite. Looked like DB could hang with them Sat night, but now its back to near 600 PPT tonight.

I really don’t know the solution other than a server like that has to recruit more, or if they can’t move back up, just get bored with so much PvDoor that they disperse some to find more challenge.

The original HoD of course got so bored of winning or bored enough that drama started, they broke up and spread out, which ended up to the benefit of the game in increasing competition. As long as Anet refuses to make mechanics to alleviate this, it will be on the playerbase to solve it, by stop dog piling so much on a couple servers at certain time zones, but they have to want to.

Actually, this was SoS all over back when we were sitting squarely at the top of T4 – we never had enough people to do anything except watch us go down into double (if not single) figures for ppt during EU and it wouldn’t get much better in NA, but then we’d make it up by sitting at 500-600+ ppt during the SEA times.

Funny how some things really don’t change.

So far SOS is the top tier 3 server. But not by a huge margin. Certainly the fights are pretty even for most of the day and night. I think the score doesn’t do justice to how even things are. This matchup is certainly a 100 times better than what we’ve had the past 3 or 4 weeks with the Tier 2 servers dominating our tier.

Please, please, please stay in tier 3 SOS.

I’m sorry if the night capping is skewing the score, but please do keep in mind what SoS has been through the past few months. Every single “hardcore” WvW guild besides TSym transferred, and the casual pugs were also showing up in much smaller numbers, with the usual bad apples doing nothing but being negative. It’s been week after week of being hopelessly uncompetitive in T1 and watch thing fall apart. Now that we have a chance to win something again, spirits are better and the pugs are showing up again.

In the meantime, just enjoy the game and don’t worry about things you can’t control. If I’m not mistaken, this matchup is at least more fair than when FA and TC were bouncing between T2/3. Unfortunately, do the instability in T1, there will probably be a server falling apart in T1/2 on a regular basis that ruins otherwise competitive matchups on their descent, i.e. things will never settle as they should.

zen.6091:

I’m sorry if the night capping is skewing the score, but please do keep in mind what SoS has been through the past few months. Every single “hardcore” WvW guild besides TSym transferred, and the casual pugs were also showing up in much smaller numbers, with the usual bad apples doing nothing but being negative. It’s been week after week of being hopelessly uncompetitive in T1 and watch thing fall apart.

I need to find a website that plays sad songs on a tiny violin, that I can link at times like this.

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

zen.6091:

I’m sorry if the night capping is skewing the score, but please do keep in mind what SoS has been through the past few months.

In the meantime, just enjoy the game and don’t worry about things you can’t control. If I’m not mistaken, this matchup is at least more fair than when FA and TC were bouncing between T2/3.

I can’t speak for the entire server but I am personally happy to be fighting both SoS and Yak’s this week. Both are worthy opponents and the battles are much more even than they have been in the recent past. The overall score matters little to me as long as I am having a good time and I can honestly say this is the most fun I have had during NA prime in a long time.

Niim.9260:

zen.6091:

I’m sorry if the night capping is skewing the score, but please do keep in mind what SoS has been through the past few months. Every single “hardcore” WvW guild besides TSym transferred, and the casual pugs were also showing up in much smaller numbers, with the usual bad apples doing nothing but being negative. It’s been week after week of being hopelessly uncompetitive in T1 and watch thing fall apart.

I need to find a website that plays sad songs on a tiny violin, that I can link at times like this.

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

Yea, Zen. Why were you mass recruiting guilds like that?

I also blame Zen for that.

Niim.9260:

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

Is what it is, all the “T1 or nothing” people that were on SoS moved to BG, so any lingering bitterness towards the players that originally bandwagoned from DB to SoS should be directed elsewhere. All we have now is the usual pug players and a few assorted guilds that are just out to have fun, which seems to be pretty much the case with DB and YB too. This is the part where a guy who doesn’t really know how to play the guitar at a campfire starts singing kumbaya or something =)

T1 has always been the same people, even if the servers have changed.

Also, it’s too bad Mag and Yaks can not easily meet in Tier 4 or 3. Because you guys are both very similar in numbers and your overall scoring. You’d probably make perfect opponents for each other.

The fights I have been in this week have been a lot of fun. As usual I have enjoyed them and thank those who bring the fun, regardless of the server they represent.

NB I do not know your name, but the DB Elelmentalist who was solo roaming EB during oceanic hours, Great stuff, I enjoyed the challenges you set my ranger!

Had a funny fight with a thief from ABI yesterday. Dodged both of his basilisk crippling daggers and thought “YES! thank god they patched it!”

zen.6091:

Niim.9260:

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

Is what it is, all the “T1 or nothing” people that were on SoS moved to BG, so any lingering bitterness towards the players that originally bandwagoned from DB to SoS should be directed elsewhere. All we have now is the usual pug players and a few assorted guilds that are just out to have fun, which seems to be pretty much the case with DB and YB too. This is the part where a guy who doesn’t really know how to play the guitar at a campfire starts singing kumbaya or something =)

I wasn’t on DB so I could care less about that stuff. I just objected to your sad story.

Secret Order of Spies…..lame.

Our group hopped around to pretty much every BL tonight, good fights all around guys.

Pendragon.8735:

For us Yak’s Benders, what is the story here with SoS and DB. I’m not asking for any drama creation either, but rather just the very basics, did like half of SoS go to DB at some point.

Generally cultivating some rivalries can be a very good thing for a game like this, as long as people can be good natured about it, or at least here on the official forums.

Basically most of DB left for BG, but because they stopped by SOS along the way, we cop the short end of their stick.

Niim.9260:

zen.6091:

Niim.9260:

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

Is what it is, all the “T1 or nothing” people that were on SoS moved to BG, so any lingering bitterness towards the players that originally bandwagoned from DB to SoS should be directed elsewhere. All we have now is the usual pug players and a few assorted guilds that are just out to have fun, which seems to be pretty much the case with DB and YB too. This is the part where a guy who doesn’t really know how to play the guitar at a campfire starts singing kumbaya or something =)

I wasn’t on DB so I could care less about that stuff. I just objected to your sad story.

I object to your attitude. We lost a lot of day one SOS guilds as well, they weren’t just new recruits, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that. Times like this I like to say “look at the scoreboard” now please talk more kitten.

Current score… DB making some good moves in their BL just took bay back from yaks. woot woot. Also note the boss asura

EnRohbi.2187:

The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.

/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.

If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D

We had a really high win percentage on Dragonbrand while the 24 hour matches were going on. We did really well until we hit what was, I believe, tier 2. That match, Blackgate absolutely massacred us. We were bumped back down to tier 3, lost to Crystal Desert that week, and the major alliance of WvW guilds decided they had enough of losing (after just those losses).

They did some research and found that SoS was the unofficial Aussie server at the time. Combined with their fairly strong standing in their own tier 4, they decided to exodus to SoS in order to have guaranteed coverage overnight and theoretically have a strong all-around server. So they left, and the very next week SoS moved up to tier 3, where DB was slaughtered by former brothers-in-arms.

At one point in time I had made it a point to remember the guilds that abandoned us, just for a time like this. Sadly, the only one I can actually remember is Tsym because of a few fuzzy memories where I fought their zerg by myself at keeps that week. So while I would like to say that I’m out for blood, too much time has passed and too much has happened to SoS for me to justify dwelling on those memories. So good luck to SoS in the future, and hope you guys stick around a few weeks.

Would be interesting if people could name the guilds that left DB for SoS way back when, and identify where they are now though.

Richard Nixon.6573:

EnRohbi.2187:

The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.

/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.

If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D

We had a really high win percentage on Dragonbrand while the 24 hour matches were going on. We did really well until we hit what was, I believe, tier 2. That match, Blackgate absolutely massacred us. We were bumped back down to tier 3, lost to Crystal Desert that week, and the major alliance of WvW guilds decided they had enough of losing (after just those losses).

They did some research and found that SoS was the unofficial Aussie server at the time. Combined with their fairly strong standing in their own tier 4, they decided to exodus to SoS in order to have guaranteed coverage overnight and theoretically have a strong all-around server. So they left, and the very next week SoS moved up to tier 3, where DB was slaughtered by former brothers-in-arms.

At one point in time I had made it a point to remember the guilds that abandoned us, just for a time like this. Sadly, the only one I can actually remember is Tsym because of a few fuzzy memories where I fought their zerg by myself at keeps that week. So while I would like to say that I’m out for blood, too much time has passed and too much has happened to SoS for me to justify dwelling on those memories. So good luck to SoS in the future, and hope you guys stick around a few weeks.

Would be interesting if people could name the guilds that left DB for SoS way back when, and identify where they are now though.

Dragonriders [DR] The industry [work] Applied tactics [atac] Onslaught [ons] Violent Impact[VI] Tsym [Tsym] All on blackgate now apart from Tsym. They also left after we only lost twice and were still in t1. :-p

Tobias Steele.2071:

Richard Nixon.6573:

EnRohbi.2187:

The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.

/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.

If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D

We had a really high win percentage on Dragonbrand while the 24 hour matches were going on. We did really well until we hit what was, I believe, tier 2. That match, Blackgate absolutely massacred us. We were bumped back down to tier 3, lost to Crystal Desert that week, and the major alliance of WvW guilds decided they had enough of losing (after just those losses).

They did some research and found that SoS was the unofficial Aussie server at the time. Combined with their fairly strong standing in their own tier 4, they decided to exodus to SoS in order to have guaranteed coverage overnight and theoretically have a strong all-around server. So they left, and the very next week SoS moved up to tier 3, where DB was slaughtered by former brothers-in-arms.

At one point in time I had made it a point to remember the guilds that abandoned us, just for a time like this. Sadly, the only one I can actually remember is Tsym because of a few fuzzy memories where I fought their zerg by myself at keeps that week. So while I would like to say that I’m out for blood, too much time has passed and too much has happened to SoS for me to justify dwelling on those memories. So good luck to SoS in the future, and hope you guys stick around a few weeks.

Would be interesting if people could name the guilds that left DB for SoS way back when, and identify where they are now though.

Dragonriders [DR] The industry [work] Applied tactics [atac] Onslaught [ons] Violent Impact[VI] Tsym [Tsym] All on blackgate now apart from Tsym. They also left after we only lost twice and were still in t1. :-p

And Fist of the Empire [FoE], better known as “First Ones to Evacuate” [FoE].

nightfend.4072:

Also, it’s too bad Mag and Yaks can not easily meet in Tier 4 or 3. Because you guys are both very similar in numbers and your overall scoring. You’d probably make perfect opponents for each other.

Ewww, icky comparison. YB is good and Mag is evil, clearly.

But yeah, it seems like lots of servers are now falling into middle grounds of being too strong for one bracket, too weak for another. Worse, not even getting matched up with those most even with them.

Somehow it must be figured out how to gain much more parity across all servers. So that when teams move up or down, the competition jump is much smaller between tiers.

These guilds, with several others, were on SoS for almost 5 months. SoS did really well over that time in many ways, thanks especially to some of the people from work and atac. I was sad to see them go, but really for many GW2 is more about guild loyalty than server loyalty.

The only way JQ was going to be beaten was another server to be as stacked as they were. There seemed no way for SoS to do it, so several SoS people made a call and moved as a bloc to BG (with a few exceptions who went elsewhere, and the many who remain on SoS). I will be happy to see JQ beaten by my former SoS colleagues even if they are on BG or anywhere else.

The one thing to come from the SoS thing is that paid transfers don’t stop guilds moving. You will see more severs “imploding” (my bet is on JQ, but only a guess), and other servers becoming “stacked” (probably TC or FA but maybe even DB).

So while I think server loyalty is fine i think it is not useful to carry any bitterness to guilds who transfer. It is quite possible you will end up playing with or against them again. SoS has certainly been on both ends of it.

Actinotus.6410:

These guilds, with several others, were on SoS for almost 5 months. SoS did really well over that time in many ways, thanks especially to some of the people from work and atac. I was sad to see them go, but really for many GW2 is more about guild loyalty than server loyalty.

The only way JQ was going to be beaten was another server to be as stacked as they were. There seemed no way for SoS to do it, so several SoS people made a call and moved as a bloc to BG (with a few exceptions who went elsewhere, and the many who remain on SoS). I will be happy to see JQ beaten by my former SoS colleagues even if they are on BG or anywhere else.

The one thing to come from the SoS thing is that paid transfers don’t stop guilds moving. You will see more severs “imploding” (my bet is on JQ, but only a guess), and other servers becoming “stacked” (probably TC or FA but maybe even DB).

So while I think server loyalty is fine i think it is not useful to carry any bitterness to guilds who transfer. It is quite possible you will end up playing with or against them again. SoS has certainly been on both ends of it.

You failed to mention how these guilds ‘blamed’ tsym for SoS failing in WvW.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Niim.9260:

zen.6091:

Niim.9260:

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

Is what it is, all the “T1 or nothing” people that were on SoS moved to BG, so any lingering bitterness towards the players that originally bandwagoned from DB to SoS should be directed elsewhere. All we have now is the usual pug players and a few assorted guilds that are just out to have fun, which seems to be pretty much the case with DB and YB too. This is the part where a guy who doesn’t really know how to play the guitar at a campfire starts singing kumbaya or something =)

I wasn’t on DB so I could care less about that stuff. I just objected to your sad story.

I object to your attitude. We lost a lot of day one SOS guilds as well, they weren’t just new recruits, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that. Times like this I like to say “look at the scoreboard” now please talk more kitten.

Most servers have been through through an exodus by now. SoS is neither unique or special in this regard so stop acting like you are. SoS is largely responsible for their own exodus, which makes your sad story even more pathetic.

As for the scoreboard comment… that makes your sad story a funny one. Welcome to T3.

Josh P.1296:

Actinotus.6410:

These guilds, with several others, were on SoS for almost 5 months. SoS did really well over that time in many ways, thanks especially to some of the people from work and atac. I was sad to see them go, but really for many GW2 is more about guild loyalty than server loyalty.

The only way JQ was going to be beaten was another server to be as stacked as they were. There seemed no way for SoS to do it, so several SoS people made a call and moved as a bloc to BG (with a few exceptions who went elsewhere, and the many who remain on SoS). I will be happy to see JQ beaten by my former SoS colleagues even if they are on BG or anywhere else.

The one thing to come from the SoS thing is that paid transfers don’t stop guilds moving. You will see more severs “imploding” (my bet is on JQ, but only a guess), and other servers becoming “stacked” (probably TC or FA but maybe even DB).

So while I think server loyalty is fine i think it is not useful to carry any bitterness to guilds who transfer. It is quite possible you will end up playing with or against them again. SoS has certainly been on both ends of it.

You failed to mention how these guilds ‘blamed’ tsym for SoS failing in WvW.

If there was tension between guild leaders it was not relevant to the statement I was making.

Good battles all the way around this week from DB and SoS. I would ask if some of the off N/A players to even things out for those of us that try to defend against a large group with very few that they do not use the view exploit to take our siege out as it ruins the fight that you will most likely win anyway. We would just like a chance to battle you all for a time and not give you the pvdoor every morning.
See you all on the battle field!

Niim.9260:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Niim.9260:

zen.6091:

Niim.9260:

I am really sorry that your mass recruiting didn’t create long term, dedicated members for your community. I know, its a shock to think fickle, bandwagon, players from other servers wouldn’t just set roots and be content. We are all as surprised as you are.

Is what it is, all the “T1 or nothing” people that were on SoS moved to BG, so any lingering bitterness towards the players that originally bandwagoned from DB to SoS should be directed elsewhere. All we have now is the usual pug players and a few assorted guilds that are just out to have fun, which seems to be pretty much the case with DB and YB too. This is the part where a guy who doesn’t really know how to play the guitar at a campfire starts singing kumbaya or something =)

I wasn’t on DB so I could care less about that stuff. I just objected to your sad story.

I object to your attitude. We lost a lot of day one SOS guilds as well, they weren’t just new recruits, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that. Times like this I like to say “look at the scoreboard” now please talk more kitten.

<insert random link to someone playing sad songs with a tiny violin>

Most servers have been through through an exodus by now. SoS is neither unique or special in this regard so stop acting like you are. SoS is largely responsible for their own exodus, which makes your sad story even more pathetic.

As for the scoreboard comment… that makes your sad story a funny one. Welcome to T3.

Where did anyone say SOS was a special case? I think your reading comprehension needs a little work. Winning is winning regardless of the tier. If you’re going to talk kitten at least have the ability to back it up. So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Guys, I think we have beat the dead horse into the ground enough about servers and guilds jumping from 5 months ago. So far I have thoroughly enjoyed this matchup. Great fights all around from all 3 teams. Lets all quit the squabbling and let the battles speak for themselves.

No reason for anyone to complain about being capped in off hour coverage, it is just part of Tier 3. See you guys out there.

I agree with cheeks, This week has been great. Who cares about what happened 6 months ago with guilds leaving and what not. I personally have no problem with SoS as krew has enjoyed all the fights. We were not on DB tho and therefore i have no reason to hate on guilds that decided to move, We moved to DB a few months ago because at the time it was the best thing we as a guild could have done. People move servers for many reasons wether it be “bandwagon” to an easy server, move for a better community or move to a more dedicated WvW server. It was their decision and at that time they felt it was the best thing to do for their guild. This has actually been the most even matchup we have seen in the last month? lets enjoy it and stop arguing with eachother

Doesn’t matter who left or why. We have what we have, and I personally am happy with who stayed. TSym is fun to run around with and there are some very good small guilds remaining. Plus we have some new PvE guilds starting to poke their head into WvWvW and seeming to like it. I think we have reached a stable point and can start rebuilding now, and I like what we have to build on.

Anyways, I have been having a blast. Both in tier 2 and tier 3. DB and YB can definitely both bring it when they have people on and it’s made for some very fun fights since the reset.

I know what is missing in this thread.

Needs Moar Cross-eyed Norn Score Updates!