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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)

PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.

Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.

Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.

I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.

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Posted by: Hadan.2841

Hadan.2841

Niim, go back to the old matchup threads with mag, they openly said they were throwing the match because t3 was too much “zerging” for them and wanted to drop back down to t4 were their small roaming grps can kill stuff. I wonder tho, after the no more culling how many thief players will stick around on mag seeing that is all they play.


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Posted by: Niim.9260

Niim.9260

Niim, go back to the old matchup threads with mag, they openly said they were throwing the match because t3 was too much “zerging” for them and wanted to drop back down to t4 were their small roaming grps can kill stuff. I wonder tho, after the no more culling how many thief players will stick around on mag seeing that is all they play.

Read what I said about that, then go look to those threads and see who was calling for throwing the match. The people calling for it were never the ones doing the main leading of the server.

No good thief is going to care about culling change, in fact most thieves want it as much as anyone else. Even the reveal debuff change they talked about for sPvP will not have much impact for most specs, if it applies to WvW at all.

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Posted by: Calvin.5380

Calvin.5380

Let’s not generalize the attitude of a whole server. Maguuma are a worthy opponent, much like YB.

This was the most fun I’ve had in a long time in WvW. Respect for both YB and SoS for a fantastic match. Tsym – show us your best next week. Or better, come back to your old server

I look forward to our future clashes.

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Posted by: Gravy.7589

Gravy.7589

SBI here and Mag have been lots of fun for us. No issues with them in our thread or on the battlefield. They are a bit zergy for us in EB, where they have been running with two 30+ zergs during NA prime time. Up until last night, we have not been able to match those numbers. With pretty equal numbers we took and defended SM for 10+ last night against constant MAG and CD zergs. Mag was just relentless.

I honestly think, now that our server has settled a bit since our free fall that Yaks would be a better match for us numbers wise. We tend to be all over the place with numbers and like many servers we have our fair weather players, who come onto a map and if we are struggling or outmanned won’t bother to stay. But, since our last matchup with Yaks our wvw numbers have increased and I am interested in seeing how we would hold up.

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!)

I’m really glad you’re generalizing an entire server based on a guild that nobody, not even from anyone from Maguuma, really likes because of their attitude.

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)

PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.

Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.

Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.

I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.

I don’t really know how it’s our fault that our fairweathers vanish into thin air when we hit T3. Must be our kittenty attitude?

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!)

I’m really glad you’re generalizing an entire server based on a guild that nobody, not even from anyone from Maguuma, really likes because of their attitude.

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)

PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.

Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.

Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.

I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.

I don’t really know how it’s our fault that our fairweathers vanish into thin air when we hit T3. Must be our kittenty attitude?

A server is only as good as the fairweather players they can convince to keep fighting when behind in points

And the unfortunate reality of a server’s presence on the forum is that the loudest posters set the reputation for the rest of them. In your case, is OG.
Just like a handful of hackers on any given server can ruin its reputation in game, same thing applies to forum warriors here.

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!)

I’m really glad you’re generalizing an entire server based on a guild that nobody, not even from anyone from Maguuma, really likes because of their attitude.

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)

PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.

Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.

Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.

I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.

I don’t really know how it’s our fault that our fairweathers vanish into thin air when we hit T3. Must be our kittenty attitude?

A server is only as good as the fairweather players they can convince to keep fighting when behind in points

And the unfortunate reality of a server’s presence on the forum is that the loudest posters set the reputation for the rest of them. In your case, is OG.
Just like a handful of hackers on any given server can ruin its reputation in game, same thing applies to forum warriors here.

By that reasoning we should still be calling your server a hacking server. Have more respect.

Edit: By the way, if you look at the posting history of the most vocal OG member, he’s not trash talking other servers anymore because he’s busy trash talking us.

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(edited by saiyr.3071)

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!)

I’m really glad you’re generalizing an entire server based on a guild that nobody, not even from anyone from Maguuma, really likes because of their attitude.

Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.

I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.

They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….

Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.

Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)

PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.

Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.

Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.

I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.

I don’t really know how it’s our fault that our fairweathers vanish into thin air when we hit T3. Must be our kittenty attitude?

A server is only as good as the fairweather players they can convince to keep fighting when behind in points

And the unfortunate reality of a server’s presence on the forum is that the loudest posters set the reputation for the rest of them. In your case, is OG.
Just like a handful of hackers on any given server can ruin its reputation in game, same thing applies to forum warriors here.

By that reasoning we should still be calling your server a hacking server. Have more respect.

Oh come on,
You can’t tell me I’ve offended you.

It’s basically human nature that they judge any group based on the worst members in it. Applies outside of video games too.

EDIT REPLY TO YOUR EDIT: Yeah, I’ve noticed him turn his attention back onto Maguuma over the past month or so as well.
But it seems like many Maguumans prides themselves on their forum warriors until people accuse them of having an attitude, and then they get all defensive about generalizing their server.

Dragonbrand

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

I might agree that it was human nature, but I would also say that it’s idiotic to continue said judgment under the realization that that was exactly what was happening. But by all means, continue. Sorry I ever respected your posts

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

I might agree that it was human nature, but I would also say that it’s idiotic to continue said judgment under the realization that that was exactly what was happening. But by all means, continue. Sorry I ever respected your posts

Also when put into practice (As you can see me doing right here as I talk to you), I don’t actually treat individuals from Maguuma based on the generalization of the server unless they are part of the reason it has that reputation.
But when I speak of “Maguuma the Server”, I will do so in accordance to the reputation they’ve established.

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

That’s fair, though I still don’t like it. I won’t argue any further. But I hope we are back in T3 this week and that we can put up a better fight. It is weird seeing DB hold 75% of the pie in NA prime.

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Posted by: Pendragon.8735

Pendragon.8735

Think we are gonna stay, Magoomba’s have too many scared of T3. They are losing to CD at the moment all of a sudden.

I like the challenge of this tier I just wish we had more players for half the day, because its really difficult to find people to play with at certain times due to how many more enemies are out.

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

It’s also a byproduct of Anet’s insistence that your server is your identity in WvW.
As they’ve clearly established when they explained part of the reason they don’t show character names of opposing teams is because they want you to feel like you’re facing the whole server and not individuals from it.

The game itself wants us to generalize

EDIT: I’m not continuing to argue (Didn’t fully consider it an argument in the first place, I am enjoying myself at the moment), I just did not consider to include that in my last post and I felt it related enough to be worth mentioning.

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

Think we are gonna stay, Magoomba’s have too many scared of T3. They are losing to CD at the moment all of a sudden.

Every morning I get on to check the scores and we are almost always last in PPT. This is nothing new, and you of all people (being on YB, IIRC) should know that their Oceanics are obviously more numerous than ours.

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Posted by: Pendragon.8735

Pendragon.8735

Think we are gonna stay, Magoomba’s have too many scared of T3. They are losing to CD at the moment all of a sudden.

Every morning I get on to check the scores and we are almost always last in PPT. This is nothing new, and you of all people (being on YB, IIRC) should know that their Oceanics are obviously more numerous than ours.

DB’s Oceanic is several times stronger yet. And yet the last couple nights we have managed to actually battle a foothold overnight instead of getting wiped off the map.

Basically players have got to want it, there is a difference between pushing toward the end of a week and kind of just sitting out. I’ve seen both on our own server, but we definitely have not given up that way this week, despite the score gap.

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

Think we are gonna stay, Magoomba’s have too many scared of T3. They are losing to CD at the moment all of a sudden.

Every morning I get on to check the scores and we are almost always last in PPT. This is nothing new, and you of all people (being on YB, IIRC) should know that their Oceanics are obviously more numerous than ours.

DB’s Oceanic is several times stronger yet. And yet the last couple nights we have managed to actually battle a foothold overnight instead of getting wiped off the map.

Basically players have got to want it, there is a difference between pushing toward the end of a week and kind of just sitting out. I’ve seen both on our own server, but we definitely have not given up that way this week, despite the score gap.

I understand all of this. I’m just pointing out that this is not a “sudden” occurrence.

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Posted by: Pendragon.8735

Pendragon.8735

I understand all of this. I’m just pointing out that this is not a “sudden” occurrence.

Mag is lower last two days around this time than earlier in the week, by about 50 to 100 ppt, you can look on the evolution chart.

Ultimately both servers will continue to move up and down I’m sure either way, even if we spend an extra week here. If there was one more server with the strength of Mag and YB, it would make for a great tier.

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Posted by: Energetik.6471

Energetik.6471

The Server That Holds The Highest Population Closest To 24/7 Wins!
Wins What? Nothing.

Remove [outmanned] already.

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Posted by: saiyr.3071

saiyr.3071

I understand all of this. I’m just pointing out that this is not a “sudden” occurrence.

Mag is lower last two days around this time than earlier in the week, by about 50 to 100 ppt, you can look on the evolution chart.

Ultimately both servers will continue to move up and down I’m sure either way, even if we spend an extra week here. If there was one more server with the strength of Mag and YB, it would make for a great tier.

Agreed with the last point, but from my recollection we were lower in earlier days. Maybe it was only for a brief time but I remember being dead last in PPT instead of second more than once. The income evolution graphs are not fine grained enough to show it, I think.

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

Had fun duels with Yak’s this last night… Until I was refused to in duels because “Mesmer is OP and take no skill” After which I proceeded to wipe the floor with the YB mesmers that were there. Don’t hate my johnny asura. He doesn’t hate any one and he loves all of DB and any one that duels him.

For those in db Johnny The Gray.

I missed out on most of the FC since I emoed out of the game for a while after spending three minutes running in place in Cliffside, my internet is so embarrassing ._. It’s pretty silly the others wouldn’t fight you, but then that guardian refused to fight me, I hadn’t planned on even participating but I had thought I could at least not embarrass myself against a guard lmao I’ll have to poke fun at the guys tonight that they’re a bunch of wimps but I have a feeling it was all the AI peeps refusing to fight you and not BS, I did see at one point where they refused a 2v2.

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Posted by: Porky.5021

Porky.5021

And the unfortunate reality of a server’s presence on the forum is that the loudest posters set the reputation for the rest of them. In your case, is OG.
Just like a handful of hackers on any given server can ruin its reputation in game, same thing applies to forum warriors here.

Then every server is the same. Hackers, loudmouths, braggarts, and jerks.

What a community we have here.

Overlord Of [NAKY]
SOS Spy Team Commander [SPY]

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

And the unfortunate reality of a server’s presence on the forum is that the loudest posters set the reputation for the rest of them. In your case, is OG.
Just like a handful of hackers on any given server can ruin its reputation in game, same thing applies to forum warriors here.

Then every server is the same. Hackers, loudmouths, braggarts, and jerks.

What a community we have here.

Well, yeah,
That’s kinda how large internet communities go. :P

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Posted by: Mindtrick.5190

Mindtrick.5190

Grats DB on the win

If Anet flipped the outmanned buff and the orb buff. It would give people with a Lower population a chance to hold or push. You also bring back the orbs and if a hacker flys over and steals it. Well he just got +25 magic find and gathering, so useless. Anet could also have a range for the buff to only aid you in taking what’s yours

Edit cause I’m in my jacuzzi not bath tub and typing with wet fingers sucks

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

Grats DB on the win

In the least hateful, revengy,
most goodsportsmanshippy sort of way…

It feels good

Dragonbrand