Guild Wars 2

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

I know what is missing in this thread.

Needs Moar Cross-eyed Norn Score Updates!

It’s like he’s staring straight into your soul.

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

I know what is missing in this thread.

Needs Moar Cross-eyed Norn Score Updates!

Hahaha that picture made me laugh pretty good. Thanks for the update.

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

Just small grps running around sneakily painting graffiti on walls and doors “Enter here”, for bigger groups to rush in and zerg the keep lord. Happens to all of us (un) fortunately.

Can anyone tell me what tactics are they using at the Hill of the DB borderland?? I got no ideas about this , lmao.

CCFUN.2413:

Can anyone tell me what tactics are they using at the Hill of the DB borderland?? I got no ideas about this , lmao.

Super secret strats omg.

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

In my experience DB is just really, really bad at scouting out white swords in a timely fashion.

Niim.9260:

There is winning coverage wars and winning fights. Personally I find the later more important and as such I have chosen to be on the losing server for well over 4 months, because I like a target rich environment. Grats on winning the coverage war though, enjoy a cookie on me.

YB definitely has the weakest night presence in this matchup, but it’s not non-existent. When your NA players upgrade things to T3 and carefully place siege that could hold off most any of the night zergs, and instead of defending your night players choose to run around ganking easy targets, there’s not a lot of room for sympathy.

I am also interesting about how did they take BAY when I send people to watch out.
However, FOO said BAY still has a way to get in without take anything down. But, I don’t know how.

Niim.9260:

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

In my experience DB is just really, really bad at scouting out white swords in a timely fashion.

I can tell you from discussions I heard internally (I was on the map at the time it happened today, and it was noticed as a pattern yesterday) that people were stationed inside Bay keep today specifically waiting for SoS to try it.

zen.6091:

Niim.9260:

There is winning coverage wars and winning fights. Personally I find the later more important and as such I have chosen to be on the losing server for well over 4 months, because I like a target rich environment. Grats on winning the coverage war though, enjoy a cookie on me.

YB definitely has the weakest night presence in this matchup, but it’s not non-existent. When your NA players upgrade things to T3 and carefully place siege that could hold off most any of the night zergs, and instead of defending your night players choose to run around ganking easy targets, there’s not a lot of room for sympathy.

I am on DB, and I think you missed the point if you thought I was asking for sympathy or even expressing a concern for the situation. I love DB’s position in T3, its perfect.

EnRohbi.2187:

Niim.9260:

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

In my experience DB is just really, really bad at scouting out white swords in a timely fashion.

I can tell you from discussions I heard internally (I was on the map at the time it happened today, and it was noticed as a pattern yesterday) that people were stationed inside Bay keep today specifically waiting for SoS to try it.

So where were they when the scouts inside bay first noticed them and did anyone check the gates before the keep was captured to see where they came in?

Niim.9260:

EnRohbi.2187:

Niim.9260:

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

In my experience DB is just really, really bad at scouting out white swords in a timely fashion.

I can tell you from discussions I heard internally (I was on the map at the time it happened today, and it was noticed as a pattern yesterday) that people were stationed inside Bay keep today specifically waiting for SoS to try it.

So where were they when the scouts inside bay first noticed them and did anyone check the gates before the keep was captured to see where they came in?

The keep flipped with them inside, and from what I gathered, without them even noticing it breached. I believe they did check for siege outside any gates or walls after the flip, of which they found none.

I have to say I’m really enjoying this match-up. It’s so nice to have a fairly equal T3 for the first time since we got here.

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. In addition to reporting possible exploits in the correct manner, Do contact leaders from the server in question and supply whatever info you can, every server has to check these things now and then.

2. Did you check for golems at inner as lord was taken or a cat near WG, or a cat NW of North bay gate in the shadows. (You had inner scouts?)

3. Were the quaggans flipped at the time of the takes.( it is how I normally cover a small team operation)

4. Did your scouts 100% clear all enemy scouts set to watch for arriving forces.
( scouts let me know when to stop firing cats until eyes leave )

5. Were there any wall breaches in the time period earler that day? I am not hugely patient myself but I have aided a mesmer evade detection in hills for around 45Mins before getting bored.

and finally, Not sure what happened but I will ask and keep an eye out for any suspicious actions.

PS, the server time that the flips happened would likely be of assistance.

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI falling down the ranks.
3. DB never been to T1.

Curious, but good fights. You’d think YB would be more interested in attacking DB in an effort for 2nd place, but it seems otherwise.

Good luck DB.

Nice jump in! You know what I say.

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

“most successful post mass exodus server”, the most coveted title by all servers in gw2

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

It just happened again 5 minutes ago, bay was taken in less than a minute. Losing an almost entirely upgraded keep isn’t fun at all…

Elano.2014:

Atine.8623:

Any SoS know how you guys got bay in DB BL, like 10mins ago? We are very frustrated because its been 4 days in a row that we lost the bay without getting contested (or barely). No accusations, just asking what happened.

It just happened again 5 minutes ago, bay was taken in less than a minute. Losing an almost entirely upgraded keep isn’t fun at all…

I hope you all realize if there are hackers taking keeps or towers through cheats somehow behind enemy lines in an instant, people who own that keep are more likely to know about or see the person hacking than the people on the other side.

It’s not like we have people saying “Hey person A, go use cheats to take Bay right now” in our TS.

The Cross-Eyed Norn Disapproves of what is going on in Bay!
I’m recruiting Lyssa to get you now!

IMHO, A good chunk of the people who remained on their servers are less interested in coverage wars than fun. It also matters very little which server/s people once were on, it only really matters who is here now, bringing the fun.

I for one was once a proud member of Elendilmir server but that hardly matters now.

Great defence by DB in DB BL early oceanic hrs last night, good to see people defending with such enthusiasm.

See you on the battlefields

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^

To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.

DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.

Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.

The game is about seven months old? Really I think in another seven months a lot of servers will look quite different to what they do now. The people who are still on the starting server are becoming the minority. So while I appreciate there is still some hurt there about transfers, look at IoJ, ET, HoD, SBI, and some of the EU servers as well who have been impacted far greater than SoS.

DB and SoS are comfortably in T3 at the moment. A lot of us who were on SoS from the start have spent time here before and had lots of fun (such as those matches against TC, SoR and others). In my opinion fighting JQ became a bit of a grind in the end, especially as, towards the end, there seemed no way to beat them due to their superior SEA coverage.

And I agree that you will have lots more guilds/players moving over the coming months – and some of these will be going into DB and SoS.

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^

To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.

DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.

Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.

It’s not the same broskii. HoD and ET falling down boosted just about everyone, but them solely falling down did not put us straight to #1. DB had their exodus first. For all you know, if those 4 servers didn’t fall down, DB wouldn’t be back where it was then you wouldn’t be able to claim your “delta = 0”.

@ your 3rd point, I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. So I’m just going to repeat myself. The difference is it is certain SoS will never be #1 again, and is probably certain that we won’t gain any significant transfers to make a difference (especially with paid transfers now) not to mention our “rise back” would have to happen within T2 & T1 where the competition is most likely significantly more challenging and competitive than from the tiers DB “rose back” from. DB received transfers (again as you have stated) and additional to that was aided by 4 servers falling below you in order for DB to be “delta = 0”. So far SoS has received no transfers since our exodus and no other mass exodus server has fallen below us. Alas, you cannot say DB has been the most successful “post exodus” server ;D

/end of discussion

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^

To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.

DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.

Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.

It’s not the same broskii. HoD and ET falling down boosted just about everyone, but them solely falling down did not put us straight to #1. DB had their exodus first. For all you know, if those 4 servers didn’t fall down, DB wouldn’t be back where it was then you wouldn’t be able to claim your “delta = 0”.

@ your 3rd point, I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. So I’m just going to repeat myself. The difference is it is certain SoS will never be #1 again, and is probably certain that we won’t gain any significant transfers to make a difference (especially with paid transfers now) not to mention our “rise back” would have to happen within T2 & T1 where the competition is most likely significantly more challenging and competitive than from the tiers DB “rose back” from. DB received transfers (again as you have stated) and additional to that was aided by 4 servers falling below you in order for DB to be “delta = 0”. So far SoS has received no transfers since our exodus and no other mass exodus server has fallen below us. Alas, you cannot say DB has been the most successful “post exodus” server ;D

/end of discussion

I wasn’t the one who claimed Delta = 0.
Pay attention to who you’re talking to.

/end of discussion (See? Anyone can do that)

A discussion of “best server after mass exodus”.

Maybe after we determine which server that is, we could discuss something equally as prestigious like “best hockey player in Ecuador”.

jportell.2197:

morrolan.9608:

Springbrook.5602:

And here is a screenshot of them doing it in another BL – seems this is a nightly event for this server….

Same people, hardly representative of the server. DB has a poor rep for hacking and YB has had some in the past as well. Report them and move on rather than trying to generalise it and create kitten on the forums.

I think its safe to say that any hacks are a minority of the population of the servers. A very small portion of 5-10 people out of the entire 100s of people that wvw on a server.

Agreed – the majority of any server has good honest people. I am not trying to blackball all of SoS. What I am calling for you guys is to give them up – if you know who they are, kick them out of your guild/friends list/ whatever and report them. It is what I do if I find someone cheating/exploiting (and I have done it).

I am sure all servers have exploiters – it is what that server does as a community to combat them that makes a server honorable/dishonorable.

And yes, this whole mess has been reported to ANET – no worries there.

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^

To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.

DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.

Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.

It’s not the same broskii. HoD and ET falling down boosted just about everyone, but them solely falling down did not put us straight to #1. DB had their exodus first. For all you know, if those 4 servers didn’t fall down, DB wouldn’t be back where it was then you wouldn’t be able to claim your “delta = 0”.

@ your 3rd point, I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. So I’m just going to repeat myself. The difference is it is certain SoS will never be #1 again, and is probably certain that we won’t gain any significant transfers to make a difference (especially with paid transfers now) not to mention our “rise back” would have to happen within T2 & T1 where the competition is most likely significantly more challenging and competitive than from the tiers DB “rose back” from. DB received transfers (again as you have stated) and additional to that was aided by 4 servers falling below you in order for DB to be “delta = 0”. So far SoS has received no transfers since our exodus and no other mass exodus server has fallen below us. Alas, you cannot say DB has been the most successful “post exodus” server ;D

/end of discussion

I wasn’t the one who claimed Delta = 0.
Pay attention to who you’re talking to.

/end of discussion (See? Anyone can do that)

I was paying attention and I was going to put it as “so your friend can’t claim delta = 0” but I thought it is all relevant to just say you since I was quoting you and you are trying to argue why DB is the most successful “post exodus server” which is basically what this little argument is about.

And I guess if that is all you have to reply with then
GG.

Think before you engaged in an argument next time.

/Ended

Kids and kiddettes from All Servers in this match pay attention to what I am about to say.

Report people to Anet, if you can get in contact with a rep from any offending server pls do so, so they can make others aware and take action if they can, other than report of course.

Now Get you rear ends out of this thread and out on to the battle field, since that’s what it’s there for.

Now as for the mass exodus crap. Enough, it doesn’t matter. What matters is people are out in the battle field, kicking the hiny out of the opposing servers, or having their hiny’s kicked by the opposing servers.

Get what I’m saying here, enough with the BS forum warrior crap from all servers and get your hiny’s out into the battle field, where you can actually enjoy yourselves with in this game.

PS: It’s good to see people enjoying fighting against old friends from all 3 servers.

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

EnRohbi.2187:

Josh P.1296:

Richard Nixon.6573:

Tobias Steele.2071:

… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.

Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.

Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.

Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true

1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.

1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?

But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.

DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?

EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.

1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^

To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.

DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.

Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.

It’s not the same broskii. HoD and ET falling down boosted just about everyone, but them solely falling down did not put us straight to #1. DB had their exodus first. For all you know, if those 4 servers didn’t fall down, DB wouldn’t be back where it was then you wouldn’t be able to claim your “delta = 0”.

@ your 3rd point, I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. So I’m just going to repeat myself. The difference is it is certain SoS will never be #1 again, and is probably certain that we won’t gain any significant transfers to make a difference (especially with paid transfers now) not to mention our “rise back” would have to happen within T2 & T1 where the competition is most likely significantly more challenging and competitive than from the tiers DB “rose back” from. DB received transfers (again as you have stated) and additional to that was aided by 4 servers falling below you in order for DB to be “delta = 0”. So far SoS has received no transfers since our exodus and no other mass exodus server has fallen below us. Alas, you cannot say DB has been the most successful “post exodus” server ;D

/end of discussion

I wasn’t the one who claimed Delta = 0.
Pay attention to who you’re talking to.

/end of discussion (See? Anyone can do that)

I was paying attention and I was going to put it as “so your friend can’t claim delta = 0” but I thought it is all relevant to just say you since I was quoting you and you are trying to argue why DB is the most successful “post exodus server” which is basically what this little argument is about.

And I guess if that is all you have to reply with then
GG.

Think before you engaged in an argument next time.

/Ended

I said in my original post it was intended as a lighthearted thing.
I intended to engage in no argument (Since, you know, that was the stupidest topic for an argument that could have come up), but then you got back at me being all serious and stuff.

That’s also why I had nothing else to reply with,
Because I’m not taking it particularly seriously, and I had no interest in being a part of an actual argument.

zen.6091:

Lyndis.2584:

We all have our share of ‘enemy is cheating’ or ‘something unbelievable must have happened, must be cheating’.

Spamming them on this forum is really not going to help anyone though.

Ex : DB must be cheaters?

For what it’s worth, that was an actual case of cheating.. They killed the other guy talking in the screenshot by the klovan guards, I downed the thief, and was about to down the ele when he was imob and stunned by the guard, then he speed hacked up the hill to SM in an instant to save himself while attuned to water. Mind you this was also about 5 minutes after JS mysteriously flipped halfway to T3 when there was no mesmers in the tower and no bodies that had not released. They didn’t even bother to destroy our catas across the bridge that were in clear view, which makes me think the same group flipped it for the lulz.

I agree that yelling cheats isn’t very productive when most wvw players don’t understand all the game mechanics, but it gets really old to see the same players cheating (I’ve seen this duo before), and on top of that ganking the hapless.

Ha and I bet this was the person I was talking about in my last post. was a D/D ele and he is still hacking because Anet does nothing.

otisday.3752:

So this is what it takes to be a scrub tier 3 server these days? In the past week I have seen more speed hacks, teleport hacks and kitten like the screens below than I have in the past 8 months. After we repelled an assault on Dreaming Bay we find a group of SOS trash hiding “underneath” the keep – they finally got bored and surfaced inside the inner walls. Unfortunately for them, we could see them in hiding and once they came out of the woodwork, we slaughtered them on the spot.
Congrats… your “skill” is awesome. LOL

The “So this is what it takes to be a scrub tier 3 server” is an idiotic statement considering you are complaining about SoS and they well golly gee look at past weeks and weeks they be a Tier 1 server not Tier 3.

Nice fights all around again tonight folks. Especially enjoyed fighting against BP from DB!

Despicable[Me] guild leader here, amazing fights tonight with DB – mainly ones we ran into.

Mad props to WAR, and BP. Great plays.

Porky.5021:

A discussion of “best server after mass exodus”.

Maybe after we determine which server that is, we could discuss something equally as prestigious like “best hockey player in Ecuador”.

Ha. (The answer is me)

Chris.4527:

Despicable[Me] guild leader here, amazing fights tonight with DB – mainly ones we ran into.

Mad props to WAR, and BP. Great plays.

I like your guild name!

well thats nice

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Helamintur.8641:

I’ve been a commander on SoS for a few months, and been there since the month after launch. That said, I was part of the insurgence of players to SoS and its rise from lower tiers to top, its grinding battles of boredom uncontested at the top, and watched the guilds without backbones flee when the matchup became interesting. That said, T1/T2 combat is not as fun. It never has been, and its usually a landslide one way or another depending on when you log in. T3, I can getup before work, and get a fight, I can go in after work, and get a fight, and I can wake up middle of the night and get a fight or come home for lunch and get a fight. That is what is important to the core of SoS, those of us from the WvW community of SoS that are still here, fighting you now, only are fighting you for the fight, not a spot, and not for being top of Tier 3. We could care less any longer about statistics of what our server says, just that our server is competently participating. Keep up your efforts in the fights and thank you for giving us the playing field we have looked forward to, as far as I am concerned, T1/T2 was all about coverage, T3 is where tactic battles are taking place and I enjoy it. (Especially some of DB’s small man crews) Seen a lot of skill, and enjoy the place I am at and hope we stay here. Just for having the right type of competition I’ve wanted without feeling it is only a zerg vs zerg game.

Well put and the very reasons why I like T3 and plan to stay in T3.

hi all,
T3 is the best battle i had.. frustated to T1/T2 train combo culling war ..ewww hope Anet had a solution for this…but doesnt bother me nomore since we arrived in T3..
love it ..love T3
thanks DB and yaks for the great battles
please SoS stayed in T3 :P

saiyr.3071:

“most successful post mass exodus server”, the most coveted title by all servers in gw2

I prefer ours tbh. Never been bandwagoned on to, never been bandwagoned off of.

Hello all, Yaksbend here at 12:35 am Server time.

20 of us from all guilds just spent 4 hours fighting SoS on YBBL. And finished with a 1 1/2 Hour battle for Hills. We fought on inner Hills for 40 min with SoS pounding us wave after wave…..

Good job SoS, good strats, good team work. Fun fight all the way around. We pushed you out and sealed the wall and got South Towers back while you pounded hills. But you almost got it.

GREAT Job Yaksbend team. Out maned but we held.

Point is,
Grats to the SoS team good fight guys. But Yaksbend all have to sleep now see you tomorrow. Our few hard core Aussie’s and Oceanic’s will hold you as long as they can and we are glad to have them.

And thank you Yaksbend Team. Great team work all.

That is what WvW is all about guys, both servers great fight tonight for any that were there.

Score update.

Edited: aaaaand all green.

The bay keeps stayed green almost all day…

Mister Mustard.7203:

It really shouldn’t reflect badly on the entire server. Can YOU stop people hacking on your server? Neither can anyone else; there is no power hierarchy where we can fire someone or not allow them to participate for acting poorly. All we can do is follow the appropriate channels to empower the only people who are truly capable of doing something about it.

This is not necessarily true. You cannot do anything specifically to the hackers sure, but you can adjust your play. I for example never take mesmer portals into keep if the mesmer is not someone I know or doesn’t have a guild tag of a known wvw guild. No tag, not someone I know, no portal.

If we take a keep/tower and I have any reason at all to question it, then I will switch maps or just avoid defending that objective at all.

I cannot stop them from hacking, but I can refuse to enable and support it.

Azure Prower.8701:

Score update.

Edited: aaaaand all green.

It’s amazing how much SoS now mirrors DB a couple months ago.
All through the day and NA primetime, scores would be even.
Then people go to bed and suddenly you shoot up to +695 and rake in the actual lead overnight. Before tier 3 DB would routinely hit +695 just about every morning.

It is somewhat unpleasant being on the receiving end of it :P

I don’t care so much about the final score,
But with DB/SoS/YB being so evenly matched for most of the day make for a really good matchup, I don’t want to see SoS go back up to tier 2 too soon and us go back to getting stomped by FA/TC all day.