Guild Wars 2

Guild Fang from SoS who attacked Hills on DB BL and got wiped.
Do you check your map before you attack a structure?

We, Yaks, held Hills on Db’s BL and you seriously want to take Hills from us instead of attacking the X other targets on this map? Or how about EB?

You just now helped DB take back Hills, because we couldn’t repair fast enough after you wiped at hills.
*sigh

Calvin.5380:

FrankieBonez.8361:

Sethryno.4651:

Hmmm somethings amis here. EA keep your dirty server smearing tactics out of this Match.

No smearing here. Elephant Ambush [EA] – Has been on Dragonbrand since day 1 and was there for our fall down the tiers after the mass exodus to SoS. Dragonbrand has fought back up and have finally gotten a shot at SoS again after the demolition at their hands the same week we lost our WvW guilds.

There’s also an [EA] on Yak’s Bend apparently lol.

BITERS WILL BE EATEN.

Yeah, [EA], [LION] were among the very few day-1 guilds that stayed. It gives me infinite pleasure to kill SoS folks now

Look [Tsym], we didn’t miss you at all :p

[Duel]‘s still kickin’ from day 1 too

Scarto.3260:

Guild Fang from SoS who attacked Hills on DB BL and got wiped.
Do you check your map before you attack a structure?

We, Yaks, held Hills on Db’s BL and you seriously want to take Hills from us instead of attacking the X other targets on this map? Or how about EB?

You just now helped DB take back Hills, because we couldn’t repair fast enough after you wiped at hills.
*sigh

I wasn’t there, but it looks like a thanks is in order.

Thank you, [Fang]!

coronbale.3894:

Greetings T3!

First off, let me just say that ANYONE who thought T3 was a joke was talking completely out of their butt. You guys brought such pain to SoS on shuffle we had to double take to make sure we weren’t thrown back into T1! I think after 20 min into the match, BG and YB had a combined 22 golems on the map. EPIC!

As far as the hate harbored by our old server, feel free. We will try and keep it clean and classy while we are here, as we did when we moved up, and how we are when moving down. When we moved to SoS, it was a different game. Times have changed, and now its not ONLY a single bracket that gets all the competitive teams, but MANY. Keep giving us your all and we would be honored to stay here and compete with your teams!

Amazing showing by YB! Very good coordinated movement by your commanders during NA prime push on SoS BL. I know how difficult it is to coordinate large scale combat on a micro level, and you were able to keep us on our toes. Well fought!

Looking forward to another great day of WvW. If you do catch a /salute from us, it is not sarcastic. Lets keep the fun rolling, GJ and GG!

No hate here Just friendly competition. The quality of Dragonbrand has remained intact. Good to see [Tsym] and SoS again. Dragonbrand has since gotten it’s teeth back after the beating we took from our old server-mates & brothers-in-arms from SoS. Many of us have looked forward to the day we meet Sea of Sorrows in rematch on a more even footing.

Enjoying this match-up greatly. Lots of great fights so far and the 3 servers are bringing out their best. This is what T3 is supposed to be (Sorry TC and FA – but you didn’t belong here <3 ) and wouldn’t mind if our 3 servers solidify this tier (Maguuma, you guys are missing all the fun! )

Haven’t had this much fun in weeks. Are you Yak’s Benders “the juice” or something? You guys were monsters on reset night! Well done. Depending on whether this momentum follows through during the week, T3 will finally see a close match-up, and I like it.

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

checks calendar

For a second I thought it was September 2012 again.

Moddo.7105:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

Yea those dam Aussies need to play on the dam oceanic time zone servers and leave NA alone. Oh wait.

And Owning you do during NA is same thing them owning during oceanic/SEA time slots. DB NA people are not numerous same as YB oceanic. How think DB oceanic feels when they lose everything to NA time slots. It is not their choice to play on NA it is only choice other than picking a EU server that is 3x distance away than NA ones. But I rarely see oceanic/SEA people whining on forums about all their owning when during their prime time is for nothing.

And BTW Even in NA people don’t play just at same time you do, so why should they be locked out of WvW because they work nights.

You’re acting like your server has no NA presence. It’s an NA server. We fight big battles and win them all day. You ghost cap everything with no opposition. Not a very good comparison.

The 3 servers have different strong points based on coverage. Can we please move on.

Wreckdum.8367:

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

You’re acting like it hasn’t been this way since launch. You can say there “should” be Oceanic servers, but last time I checked, there weren’t. You’ve had plenty of time to either 1) recruit an overnight presence to your server, 2) transfer to a server that has such a presence already, 3) quit, or 4) get over it.

The system has long been established, and it’s been said repeatedly by the developers that it is a 24 hour game. And this may come as a shock to you, but I don’t exactly see them making sweeping changes to the system because poor Wreckdum is unhappy.

Just wanted to share a video of Blood Pact[BP] taking Stonemist from today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2cHqAoPkKT4

Wreckdum.8367:

Moddo.7105:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

Yea those dam Aussies need to play on the dam oceanic time zone servers and leave NA alone. Oh wait.

And Owning you do during NA is same thing them owning during oceanic/SEA time slots. DB NA people are not numerous same as YB oceanic. How think DB oceanic feels when they lose everything to NA time slots. It is not their choice to play on NA it is only choice other than picking a EU server that is 3x distance away than NA ones. But I rarely see oceanic/SEA people whining on forums about all their owning when during their prime time is for nothing.

And BTW Even in NA people don’t play just at same time you do, so why should they be locked out of WvW because they work nights.

You’re acting like your server has no NA presence. It’s an NA server. We fight big battles and win them all day. You ghost cap everything with no opposition. Not a very good comparison.

SoS is ticking 260, Yak’s is ticking 210 right now. 10:30PM EST is NA time as far as I know, correct?

EnRohbi.2187:

Calvin.5380:

FrankieBonez.8361:

Sethryno.4651:

Hmmm somethings amis here. EA keep your dirty server smearing tactics out of this Match.

No smearing here. Elephant Ambush [EA] – Has been on Dragonbrand since day 1 and was there for our fall down the tiers after the mass exodus to SoS. Dragonbrand has fought back up and have finally gotten a shot at SoS again after the demolition at their hands the same week we lost our WvW guilds.

There’s also an [EA] on Yak’s Bend apparently lol.

BITERS WILL BE EATEN.

Yeah, [EA], [LION] were among the very few day-1 guilds that stayed. It gives me infinite pleasure to kill SoS folks now

Look [Tsym], we didn’t miss you at all :p

[Duel]‘s still kickin’ from day 1 too

Scarto.3260:

Guild Fang from SoS who attacked Hills on DB BL and got wiped.
Do you check your map before you attack a structure?

We, Yaks, held Hills on Db’s BL and you seriously want to take Hills from us instead of attacking the X other targets on this map? Or how about EB?

You just now helped DB take back Hills, because we couldn’t repair fast enough after you wiped at hills.
*sigh

I wasn’t there, but it looks like a thanks is in order.

Thank you, [Fang]!

Warsworn was also a day one DB guild…. pay no attention to us leaving to tier8 for about 10 weeks and coming back… nope pay no attention :P

Mister Mustard.7203:

Wreckdum.8367:

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

You’re acting like it hasn’t been this way since launch. You can say there “should” be Oceanic servers, but last time I checked, there weren’t. You’ve had plenty of time to either 1) recruit an overnight presence to your server, 2) transfer to a server that has such a presence already, 3) quit, or 4) get over it.

The system has long been established, and it’s been said repeatedly by the developers that it is a 24 hour game. And this may come as a shock to you, but I don’t exactly see them making sweeping changes to the system because poor Wreckdum is unhappy.

It is weird seeing the “night capping” thing brought up again. WvW in these higher tiers is all about coverage.

in T1 SoS had weaker SEA/euro than JQQ or SoR respectively. JQ and BG are probably the most “stacked” servers now but even they have gaps or weaknesses (read the T1 thread). JQ especially dominant in the asian primetime (led by Foo). Main reason why they are winning at the moment.

All good guys, trust me the score really is a big joke. Have your fun when and where you can, the tiers seem pretty good like they are now. If a color sweeps in and night caps, or day caps, who cares! If you want a full coverage server, might I direct you to T1.

Win or lose, have fun with it. Just because one server is ahead of the other rarely has anything to do with skill, trust me, we saw it to its ultimate conclusion at T1. Leave the coverage wars to those actually fighting them, and lets enjoy this tier for its competition and fun!

I might add to all those SoS feeling like rubbing it in, there is only ONE winner every week, technically. Does that mean everyone below them should be miserable?

Wreckdum.8367:

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

Judging your na coverage to be better than a new opponent after reset night is foolish. SOS na wooped your backside tonight, so maybe you should rethink the wording of you next excuse.

Current scores. Good fights all around.

That score update shows YB’s usual one-eyed obsession with Stonemist. Just my opinion & I know I’ve said it before, but if the manpower & resources that we throw at that kitten in EB were put into defending/sieging other targets then our ppt would be much healthier.

I should just ignore the scoreboard & accept that people will play the game the way they want to, but as a defence orientated player I do find it a bit frustrating.

Moddo.7105:

How think DB oceanic feels when they lose everything to NA time slots. It is not their choice to play on NA it is only choice other than picking a EU server that is 3x distance away than NA ones. But I rarely see oceanic/SEA people whining on forums about all their owning when during their prime time is for nothing.

It sucks for both sides of course. At least for those who enjoy actual fighting, and not just rampaging over doors for +600 PPT, which of course Yaks never reaches in NA primetime, because even the oceanic heavy servers have some decent NA coverage, if not totally competitive.

But to be honest they should just go ahead and make a 3rd server set, to join NA and Europe, and it would be the Asia/Oceanic set. I don’t care if it could only support 3 teams, or maybe 6 would work, but it would create much better all around matches that are decided primarily when all servers have the bulk of their forces on a map.

Because the worst weeks or matches really are when you have these big timezone disparities. Even if the end week scores end up close, doesn’t mean you had as great and contested battles as if zergs were matched up with zergs.

T1 and T2 might not be an issue, but the game doesn’t have enough players to support that coverage through the tiers and in T3-T8, its a huge, if not overwhelming, factor.

you’ll only be here for a week so why dont you go pve for a weeek then come back and run over t4 like most pugs do O.o

Nozzie.2067:

That score update shows YB’s usual one-eyed obsession with Stonemist. Just my opinion & I know I’ve said it before, but if the manpower & resources that we throw at that kitten in EB were put into defending/sieging other targets then our ppt would be much healthier.

I should just ignore the scoreboard & accept that people will play the game the way they want to, but as a defence orientated player I do find it a bit frustrating.

Please, that snapshot is hardly representative of whats been going on today. The score only looked like that for about an hour. YB led the PPT for most of the 6 hours prior to that with only 4-5 Keeps and no SMC by wining the small-ball.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Wreckdum.8367:

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

Judging your na coverage to be better than a new opponent after reset night is foolish. SOS na wooped your backside tonight, so maybe you should rethink the wording of you next excuse.

Our reset coverage has always been much better than our weekend coverage, which has always been much better than our weekday. Even so, to what do you refer? The score was very close all NA shift, in fact YB held the lead for most of it.

Facet.5914:

Nozzie.2067:

That score update shows YB’s usual one-eyed obsession with Stonemist. Just my opinion & I know I’ve said it before, but if the manpower & resources that we throw at that kitten in EB were put into defending/sieging other targets then our ppt would be much healthier.

I should just ignore the scoreboard & accept that people will play the game the way they want to, but as a defence orientated player I do find it a bit frustrating.

Please, that snapshot is hardly representative of whats been going on today. The score only looked like that for about an hour. YB led the PPT for most of the 6 hours prior to that with only 4-5 Keeps and no SMC by wining the small-ball.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Wreckdum.8367:

gmanual.6519:

Wreckdum.8367:

ROFL I go to sleep and we are all out OWNING… I wake up to see we got night capped and sent to last place… ANet needs to make actual region locked servers. Clearly for WVW only. I don’t care if you have North American friends. That’s fine. Guest to them for PVE dungeons. But this whole flimsy system for WvW is just plain bad.

I play on a North American server… During North American primetime we dominate. Then the oceanic guilds get on a NA server and we lose… I’m living in the twilight zone if I’m the only person who sees the flaw in this system.

I’m not completely bitter. I’m happy to see Yak’s stepped up in T3 during NA primetime and was destroying. Way to represent. =D There is no shame in losing to oceanic when you play on an NA server. We need tougher immigration reform! Vote for me!

I’m about to go to sleep, don’t you go and night cap me too hard now.

Point sailed right over your head. You should have your own server if you’re Oceanic. If you’re European you should be on a European server.

If you’re North American sleeping you have nothing to worry about because it is a North American server. Prime time will have you covered.

The only reason SoS oceanic team took everything during the night is because they had no opposition. They sit at the bottom of the scoreboard all during NA daylight hours then jack up to 600 potential points at night because they get a free sweep.

Flawed system.

Judging your na coverage to be better than a new opponent after reset night is foolish. SOS na wooped your backside tonight, so maybe you should rethink the wording of you next excuse.

Our reset coverage has always been much better than our weekend coverage, which has always been much better than our weekday. Even so, to what do you refer? The score was very close all NA shift, in fact YB held the lead for most of it.

Oh truly? My mistake. I guess the 3-4 hours I was online for wasn’t indicative of the entire night. My point still stands however.

Would any Yaks’ or SOS folks care to set up a dueling arena in the near the windmill in any BL?

jportell.2197:

Would any Yaks’ or SOS folks care to set up a dueling arena in the near the windmill in any BL?

Kk.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Judging your na coverage to be better than a new opponent after reset night is foolish. SOS na wooped your backside tonight, so maybe you should rethink the wording of you next excuse.

Our reset coverage has always been much better than our weekend coverage, which has always been much better than our weekday. Even so, to what do you refer? The score was very close all NA shift, in fact YB held the lead for most of it.

Oh truly? My mistake. I guess the 3-4 hours I was online for wasn’t indicative of the entire night. My point still stands however.

He’s right though, YB was ticking around 300 (1st place) for most of reset night up till about midnight NA central time. This can easily be viewed on the income graph at the matchup site.

But what happens is once an off peak crew runs over a map and tears everything down with little resistance, and then also is able to set up their own NA team with a completely fortified BL, its a huge advantage each following day, and then even if you have the stronger NA team, its very hard to ever get back to that first night PPT because of the rebuilding you must do to start each day. Therefore past the 1st night each period becomes inordinately affected by the previous periods, not necessarily reflecting true strength within any given time.

Anyhow, we are actually looking at the same matchup next week so far, as YB is gaining more rating than DB with the score where it is. But if SoS can leverage their strong time more and more each day they might be able to get back into T2, where there is better coverage competition for them (kain), and we will finally get to play TC again. Woot!

I think it’s time that everyone realised that THERE IS NO OFF-PEAK. The servers in tier 1 and 2 have realised this and dominate because of it. No point complaining, just recruit guilds in other time zones, move your guild to a different server or wait until you are in a tier which suits your server’s coverage.

For better or worse I’m sticking with SoS whichever tier we are in.

gek.4786:

I think it’s time that everyone realised that THERE IS NO OFF-PEAK.

For 6 out of 8 tiers there is, which can make for a pretty broken system. No, it shouldn’t be belabored ideally, but some refuse to accept it for some reason.

gek.4786:

The servers in tier 1 and 2 have realised this and dominate because of it.

They didn’t realize jack. That is just the few servers that enough people bandwagoned on to that already had the precious off peak coverage. But when those servers get evacuated, indeed like happened to SoS, they kind of bob up and down in a no man’s land where they are dominate half the time, either winning due to utter off peak dominance, or not being able to compete with the servers that can somewhat match them, due to not enough NA support.

No point complaining, just recruit guilds in other time zones, move your guild to a different server or wait until you are in a tier which suits your server’s coverage.

It’s not really based on tier past T2. If as I alluded to TC falls int this tier, or Mag comes up, though TC is stronger overall, their strong point coverage is much more compatible to that of a lower tier server, as you can see in their income chart, they have similar dip when its primetime in oceanic.

I applaud people that stick with their server though, its not the fault of where people started, but more Anet not finding adequate solutions. But the ones saying its not a big deal are usually the people on the free zerg karma train that rarely have to be on the other end of it.

It will be interesting to see if the March update has any new ideas for this. Or maybe best hope it brings out enough casuals to where more servers can compete 24/7.

Can’t wait to show off our new Oceanic presence to T3 :-)

To the DB Asuran Mesmer Commander on EB. Major props both on your hiding spot and ability to get a zerg around to the northwest side of SMC at around 4am Server Time. If we hadn’t gotten lucky and spotted your zerg coming in, that would have been a picture perfect ninja flip. Major props.

Pendragon.8735:

gek.4786:

I think it’s time that everyone realised that THERE IS NO OFF-PEAK.

For 6 out of 8 tiers there is, which can make for a pretty broken system. No, it shouldn’t be belabored ideally, but some refuse to accept it for some reason.

gek.4786:

The servers in tier 1 and 2 have realised this and dominate because of it.

They didn’t realize jack. That is just the few servers that enough people bandwagoned on to that already had the precious off peak coverage. But when those servers get evacuated, indeed like happened to SoS, they kind of bob up and down in a no man’s land where they are dominate half the time, either winning due to utter off peak dominance, or not being able to compete with the servers that can somewhat match them, due to not enough NA support.

No point complaining, just recruit guilds in other time zones, move your guild to a different server or wait until you are in a tier which suits your server’s coverage.

It’s not really based on tier past T2. If as I alluded to TC falls int this tier, or Mag comes up, though TC is stronger overall, their strong point coverage is much more compatible to that of a lower tier server, as you can see in their income chart, they have similar dip when its primetime in oceanic.

I applaud people that stick with their server though, its not the fault of where people started, but more Anet not finding adequate solutions. But the ones saying its not a big deal are usually the people on the free zerg karma train that rarely have to be on the other end of it.

It will be interesting to see if the March update has any new ideas for this. Or maybe best hope it brings out enough casuals to where more servers can compete 24/7.

It is what is it, and It seems unlikely that its going to change. Go out and enjoy the fights for whatever timezone you play in and ignore the overall score. That’s what I do and it works fine for me. No point getting worked up about what you cant change. You win some, and you lose some. Coverage is entirely relative anyway drop down another two or three tiers and I guarantee you the other servers from that bracket would be complaining about YOUR off peak presence and they would be as correct as you are.

Oh, you’re entirely right, I’ve been on that end as well, and found it utterly boring and lame. Why people interested in WvW would not want a system that creates more challenge though, I don’t know. But unless Anet continues to hear its flaws then no it won’t change.

A good WvW system really shouldn’t match based on total points servers can gain in a week, but rather on which matchups would provide the best player experience. Which means getting the most players to actually PVP each other and not so much PVE, which is what mostly happens at 600+ PPT, which happened the other night.

But yes, you can (have to) ignore the scoreboard often at T3 or below, but its just a shame, because there are solutions. I’ll let it go there because we’ve beaten it a good bit, but every time a new match like this happens, you see one of the flaws holding this game mode back.

Pendragon.8735:

Oh, you’re entirely right, I’ve been on that end as well, and found it utterly boring and lame. Why people interested in WvW would not want a system that creates more challenge though, I don’t know. But unless Anet continues to hear its flaws then no it won’t change.

A good WvW system really shouldn’t match based on total points servers can gain in a week, but rather on which matchups would provide the best player experience. Which means getting the most players to actually PVP each other and not so much PVE, which is what mostly happens at 600+ PPT, which happened the other night.

But yes, you can (have to) ignore the scoreboard often at T3 or below, but its just a shame, because there are solutions. I’ll let it go there because we’ve beaten it a good bit, but every time a new match like this happens, you see one of the flaws holding this game mode back.

Its more than just t3 below. There are literally four current servers in the entire game that don’t need to concern themselves with this issue. Three in na (blackgate, Jade quarry and strangely enough due to their coverage and being stuck in t8, Sorrows Furnace) and one in EU (Vizunah) its a very real problem for EVERY other server. We literally have about 20-30% of the wvw population and coverage that we had at our peak. I know your pain, believe me. Its just for sos the coverage issue shows in t2 rather than t3.

Anet sold the game in Oceanic countries and set it by default to connect to NA because Anet never invested in Oceanic servers.

Seren.6850:

Anet sold the game in Oceanic countries and set it by default to connect to NA because Anet never invested in Oceanic servers.

From my understanding Aussie servers would be too pricey. Not sure about HK or Korean ones.

You can tell you’re back in T3 when you hear the words “night capping”…

Good fights so far though. Definitely been interesting. Had a lot of fun on DB BL after reset teetering in and out of Outmanned, but still holding our own.

And as far as I’m aware, ANet don’t even have login servers in Australia. If I remember rightly from what I saw, they’re in Malaysia or somewhere similar.

Ghedoriah.4290:

You can tell you’re back in T3 when you hear the words “night capping”…

Good fights so far though. Definitely been interesting. Had a lot of fun on DB BL after reset teetering in and out of Outmanned, but still holding our own.

And as far as I’m aware, ANet don’t even have login servers in Australia. If I remember rightly from what I saw, they’re in Malaysia or somewhere similar.

That is such a dump statement considering the only people talking about night capping are Yak’s and little hint they are actually a Tier 4 server that pops up here when Mag has a bad week. No one kittenes about night capping in T3 because Dragonbrand is 75% SEA population. And from what I see they never complain about NA night capping them. And other servers in Green spot for last several months has been a T2 drop down. So your statement about T3 and whinning about night capping is just you trying to sound elitist IMO.

My statement was in jest – I can, after all, read that only a couple of people were actually complaining about it. It’s not exactly the loveable flaming that used to take place with certain folks we played against in T4, back when our WvW population was certainly more than 75% SEA. I’m just a humble European that enjoys poking fun at people who (inevitably) thought the world revolved around the US.

SoS wiping YB off the map during the night looks something like this:
A dozen YB defenders building/manning siege in a keep. SoS breaks in the outer gate, gets immediately wiped by defenders in inner (YB never knows exactly how many SoS there are due to culling). SoS comes back, tries to build catapults to get past inner, and gets wiped again, and same thing once more. SoS then decides to stay back and treb a wall down. After a while, YB defenders have fallen asleep waiting, counting badges like sheep.

sudopudge.7215:

SoS wiping YB off the map during the night looks something like this:
A dozen YB defenders building/manning siege in a keep. SoS breaks in the outer gate, gets immediately wiped by defenders in inner (YB never knows exactly how many SoS there are due to culling). SoS comes back, tries to build catapults to get past inner, and gets wiped again, and same thing once more. SoS then decides to stay back and treb a wall down. After a while, YB defenders have fallen asleep waiting, counting badges like sheep.

In your dreams buddy. You got the sleep part right. :-p

Let’s get this thread back to the level of respect each server deserves. Enjoy each fight as it comes and learn some tricks along the way.

I definitely see a difference so far in every tier regarding the style of play from each guild we face. Tier 1 had great guilds EMP, Choo, TW, etc. Tier 2 had some solid opponents in RET, WM, etc. Looking for those Tier 3 guilds that stand out.

Keep up the fights in my time zone (PST) and I’ll be content!

Moddo.7105:

Ghedoriah.4290:

You can tell you’re back in T3 when you hear the words “night capping”…

Good fights so far though. Definitely been interesting. Had a lot of fun on DB BL after reset teetering in and out of Outmanned, but still holding our own.

And as far as I’m aware, ANet don’t even have login servers in Australia. If I remember rightly from what I saw, they’re in Malaysia or somewhere similar.

That is such a dump statement considering the only people talking about night capping are Yak’s and little hint they are actually a Tier 4 server that pops up here when Mag has a bad week. No one kittenes about night capping in T3 because Dragonbrand is 75% SEA population. And from what I see they never complain about NA night capping them. And other servers in Green spot for last several months has been a T2 drop down. So your statement about T3 and whinning about night capping is just you trying to sound elitist IMO.

There are a grand total of two people from yaks discussing “night capping” ITT. Not representative of a server or tier. Most of us recognize that it is what it is and are happy to just enjoy dominating the time that we can control.

Tobias Steele.2071:

sudopudge.7215:

SoS wiping YB off the map during the night looks something like this:
A dozen YB defenders building/manning siege in a keep. SoS breaks in the outer gate, gets immediately wiped by defenders in inner (YB never knows exactly how many SoS there are due to culling). SoS comes back, tries to build catapults to get past inner, and gets wiped again, and same thing once more. SoS then decides to stay back and treb a wall down. After a while, YB defenders have fallen asleep waiting, counting badges like sheep.

In your dreams buddy. You got the sleep part right. :-p

Dunno man, I was up until 3:45 AM my time (eastern) yesterday and this sounds exactly like what happened to me. Our oceanics may be few in number but they are fiesty!

Crimedawg.8954:

Let’s get this thread back to the level of respect each server deserves. Enjoy each fight as it comes and learn some tricks along the way.

I definitely see a difference so far in every tier regarding the style of play from each guild we face. Tier 1 had great guilds EMP, Choo, TW, etc. Tier 2 had some solid opponents in RET, WM, etc. Looking for those Tier 3 guilds that stand out.

Keep up the fights in my time zone (PST) and I’ll be content!

YB has some good guilds like WAR and CL, but sadly you will only see them running in solid big sized groups as a guild on reset night, and even so YB has not a single WvW dedicated guild yet like TSYM by example.

Tier 1, 2 and 1st place tier 3 server, always are WvW centric servers with highly developed WvW culture, the greater portion of this servers population will prioritize WvW over PvE, unlike the servers below that are PvE centric servers full of carebears who dont’ give a kitten as long as they have people to do their Lv 999999999 fractal runs and all that kitten.

PvE is good, but people on the servers below abuse of it doing it 24/7, and can’t realize that GW2 is a community based game where people needs to help each other in all aspects and it’s mainly thanks to the WvW dedicated players from all the tiers that carebears and fairweather servers like YB by example can get an influx of new players to their respective servers so it doesn’t became a ghost town like tier 8.

So far all this match has been is culling, portal bombing, and skill lag. I do hope they fix some of this soon.

The first day made it look like there was an oceanic advantage for SoS but the second day showed a big difference, it’s still the weekend and we have the week ahead so it could go either way at this point.

Honestly, don’t play the recruit for coverage game. It’s a fool’s quest that never pays off. Unless you are willing to transfer to stay in tier one (unless you were lucky to receive the transfers, this is the case for the vast majority of tier one guilds) you simply can’t win. The only difference coverage makes is on the score board. Aside from having to cap towers (or getting to defend them, depending on which side you are on) coverage in other time zones has little relevance to your personal experience. If you want to log into WvW and defend half the map I can see a desire for coverage, but if you are just as happy (if not more) sieging towers and taking back control of a map, your WvW experience won’t suffer without coverage.

Most of the former Dragonbrand guilds on SoS have bandwagoned once again (their egos spent too much time in tier one) and the one/ones that are still around are very different from when they left Dragonbrand (attrition, new recruits etc).

Personally I am really enjoying the new competition. It’s nice to be in a tier where you aren’t crushed by giant zergs every corner you turn. There certainly isn’t an absence of competition from Dragonbrand or Yak’s Bend. Having been on Yak’s Bend in the past, I can say their WvW players are very committed and seem to enjoy themselves no matter what the score is, even without a commander on any map they were able to communicate well and organise each other to defend and siege objectives (something a lot of tier one players struggle to do without a commander).

There certainly isn’t a lack of skill or competition in tier three, just different coverage and smaller/less zergs.

Seriously, the only words worth reading in this whole mess of crap has been the few who are looking at it correctly. There is literally ONE winner every week, ONE. They have perfect 24/7 coverage, and skilled teams that play every single hour of the day.

Anyone thinking they are big stuff being first in any tier, INCLUDING the first, is silly in the extreme. Go in, HAVE FUN, and play it like a strategy game. Take the board how it is, work towards turning it to your color using strategy, communication, and tactics, and have fun during your play time. Tomorrow, log on and do it again!

DB got to 500PPT yesterday during EU prime, so be it. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that SoS, YB, and DB were VERY close together during their prime times, and we gained 10,000 pts during our SEA time. NA prime comes around and all of a sudden were even again. See a pattern? Gloating about the score is useless and extremely arrogant. Enjoy the fights we have, and remember that if we jump back to T2 were going to get coverage screwed worse than DB and YB are right now.

If someone else is looking at it from the standpoint that they are more or less skilled due to the score, does it really warrant a response? You know its false, THEY probably know its false, and yet, the trollolloll goes on.

And for the record, YB has [Me], and they are a VERY strong large guild. To say that YB has nothing in that area is play false.

coronbale.3894:

Seriously, the only words worth reading in this whole mess of crap has been the few who are looking at it correctly. There is literally ONE winner every week, ONE. They have perfect 24/7 coverage, and skilled teams that play every single hour of the day.

Anyone thinking they are big stuff being first in any tier, INCLUDING the first, is silly in the extreme. Go in, HAVE FUN, and play it like a strategy game. Take the board how it is, work towards turning it to your color using strategy, communication, and tactics, and have fun during your play time. Tomorrow, log on and do it again!

DB got to 500PPT yesterday during EU prime, so be it. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that SoS, YB, and DB were VERY close together during their prime times, and we gained 10,000 pts during our SEA time. NA prime comes around and all of a sudden were even again. See a pattern? Gloating about the score is useless and extremely arrogant. Enjoy the fights we have, and remember that if we jump back to T2 were going to get coverage screwed worse than DB and YB are right now.

If someone else is looking at it from the standpoint that they are more or less skilled due to the score, does it really warrant a response? You know its false, THEY probably know its false, and yet, the trollolloll goes on.

And for the record, YB has [Me], and they are a VERY strong large guild. To say that YB has nothing in that area is play false.

If you want to enjoy battles better to start giving us some space to breath we have enough with DB focusing us 24/7, because they want us out of this tier.

DB is focusing SOS more for one reason only… revenge. Doesn’t matter if the original guilds from back then are different. Those who were left behind and people who came after hearing about what happened hold a grudge. All around fun fights this week though I hope next week continues to be the same. This week is alot more balanced then the past week. It’s hard being the middle guy stuck in a tier for weeks on end but if this is the match up we will get more consistantly I for one will be happy.

lani.7431:

DB is focusing SOS more for one reason only… revenge. Doesn’t matter if the original guilds from back then are different. Those who were left behind and people who came after hearing about what happened hold a grudge. All around fun fights this week though I hope next week continues to be the same. This week is alot more balanced then the past week. It’s hard being the middle guy stuck in a tier for weeks on end but if this is the match up we will get more consistantly I for one will be happy.

Cool story bro. Focusing SoS so hard that you guys haven’t stoped to come at our BL since yesterday and when SoS comes it’s only gets worse, we enjoy TSYM, even if we lose against them because we can learn from them, but you feeding on our bones guys?, lol.

santi.7516:

YB has some good guilds like WAR and CL, but sadly you will only see them running in solid big sized groups as a guild on reset night, and even so YB has not a single WvW dedicated guild yet like TSYM by example.

Look forward to seeing what WAR and CL bring to the table.

/salute

santi.7516:

lani.7431:

DB is focusing SOS more for one reason only… revenge. Doesn’t matter if the original guilds from back then are different. Those who were left behind and people who came after hearing about what happened hold a grudge. All around fun fights this week though I hope next week continues to be the same. This week is alot more balanced then the past week. It’s hard being the middle guy stuck in a tier for weeks on end but if this is the match up we will get more consistantly I for one will be happy.

Cool story bro. Focusing SoS so hard that you guys haven’t stoped to come at our BL since yesterday and when SoS comes it’s only gets worse, we enjoy TSYM, even if we lose against them because we can learn from them, but you feeding on our bones guys?, lol.

I don’t know what to tell you,
Sometimes we like easy points too? o;

Well said coronbale. Some people just don’t come to wvw with the right attitude, too many think ticking the highest and winning is the most important thing and it’s not at all. If people just enjoyed the time they played and played to the best of their ability, ignored the score, they’d have way more fun.

With wvw being such a 24/7 thing one person’s or guild’s work most of the time doesn’t effect the score outcome much which I think can really contribute to people’s emo crud over the score and tz coverage. Depending on anet’s wvw update some of the rewards system in it may relieve some of that, giving people a feeling of accomplishment individually or as a guild outside of winning or losing a match. I know for me coming from another game where what I brought to a group had a huge impact on our success or failure it has been a struggle for me to adapt to this different game mode where frankly I’m a drop of water in a big ocean and what I do as an individual for the most part means diddly squat.

There have been a great many terrific fights this week. YB and DB are fighting well and the reset fights were very high quality. SoS BL had to dig in for hrs at reset.

I do not care who is focussing who, the whole point of any PvP system is that it is not totally predictable. I enjoy dealing with whatever the situation is when I log on.

This is a game, as a SoS original, I understand the feelings some people have towards those guilds/players who left, but I refuse to hate anyone, let alone fellow gamers.