(edited by Orochimaru.4730)
WvW Lag March 2015
Bump for potential lagfix and more importantly acknowledgement that the problem exists and some feedback on any attempts to fix it please, much appreciated
Anet has added a “How to Address Lag” guide: https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/91354558-How-to-Address-Lag
As you can see from the guide, you probably just need to update your drivers. I wish this was sarcasm, but the guide actually mentions updating drivers several times…
That is assuming the problem is on our end.
The fact that so many people on so many servers are having the same problem reinforces the fact that it is a server side problem!
Well if massive amounts of players start to experience lag at approximately the same time, after the same patch, I think we can safely assume that the issue is not on the client side but rather related to something on the game servers. I don’t believe all these people managed to magically mess up their drivers or their computer the same time. I’m really missing a fourth section on that “how to address” page: “How to detect if the issue is on the server side and how to report that instead of disabling random background services on my computer without knowing what the ….. I’m disabling”.
All Anet has to do to confirm is jump into WvW and play a blob vs blob fight to experience the lag. In all likelihood they play their own game and probably already know what WvW’ers are already experiencing.
Ive seen a couple anet people in wvw over the weekend, one with TC, one with us on BG. Im sure they noticed the lag, maybe they were investigating it, idk. I asked one of them to return their servers back to kmart, so fingers crossed.
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
>Class Balance is a Joke<
Ive seen a couple anet people in wvw over the weekend, one with TC, one with us on BG. Im sure they noticed the lag, maybe they were investigating it, idk. I asked one of them to return their servers back to kmart, so fingers crossed.
Yeah, cause comments like that certainly must inspire them to happily want to run out and assist you and the other player base. Thank you for your honesty about how you contributed to the problem.
Ive seen a couple anet people in wvw over the weekend, one with TC, one with us on BG. Im sure they noticed the lag, maybe they were investigating it, idk. I asked one of them to return their servers back to kmart, so fingers crossed.
Yeah, cause comments like that certainly must inspire them to happily want to run out and assist you and the other player base. Thank you for your honesty about how you contributed to the problem.
Settle down mr white knight, it was a joke, he was in our ts while we were farming JQ, learn to develop a sense of humor, and how exactly did I contribute to causing lag?
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
>Class Balance is a Joke<
Ive seen a couple anet people in wvw over the weekend, one with TC, one with us on BG. Im sure they noticed the lag, maybe they were investigating it, idk. I asked one of them to return their servers back to kmart, so fingers crossed.
Yeah, cause comments like that certainly must inspire them to happily want to run out and assist you and the other player base. Thank you for your honesty about how you contributed to the problem.
Settle down mr white knight, it was a joke, he was in our ts while we were farming JQ, learn to develop a sense of humor, and how exactly did I contribute to causing lag?
You do not feel contributing to a bad forums culture of promoting the act of distributing insult, and bashing the dev team, is helping any issue?
No need to call me names, for suggesting that promoting insults is bad. Not does anyone have any means to suggest you were making a joke. All of the unemployed comedians in the world, and your*trying* to be funny?
If you design a game where 3 teams with 80 players each can fight each other at the same time, make sure that your engine and your servers can keep up with it.
Thank you.
Howdy,
JINX is great, quite a bit bigger in numbers (25 -35 nightly), but we are having a lot of fun in T2. Would be better if this lag was not crippling maps and all levels of fights…
Indeed its rough everywhere, just hoping they fix it soon, glad to hear you guys are having fun but….cough…come back to BG, I will bother Angel about DN lol, take care.
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
>Class Balance is a Joke<
ANET,
How about reading the thread and acting upon or providing feedback on the communities complaints instead of deleting or infracting the posts?
Thanks……
ANET,
How about reading the thread and acting upon or providing feedback on the communities complaints instead of deleting or infracting the posts?
Thanks……
What does a mod, tending to post that violates the rules, have to do with a dev respose?
Do you ask your accountant to stop accounting and pump your gas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c
Anet has added a “How to Address Lag” guide: https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/91354558-How-to-Address-Lag
As you can see from the guide, you probably just need to update your drivers. I wish this was sarcasm, but the guide actually mentions updating drivers several times…
Yeah if it were only my machine and not server-side sigh. GG Anet take a long look at the last patch, and see where the coding went ploin-shaped. More than 60-ish players in an area = 5 second skill lag. Even ram skills won’t fire. Head to EotM, and there is zero problem even with 2 mapblobs clashing.
BLs = terrible lag with 60+
EotM = no lag with 100+
PvE = no lag with however many fit on those maps
Something wrong with that last patch that messed up the Alpine BLs(don’t play much EB so no personal knowledge of lag there except general complaining from some players I talk to).
That is assuming the problem is on our end.
The fact that so many people on so many servers are having the same problem reinforces the fact that it is a server side problem!
Never put in a ticket with Anet support, huh? The problem is always on your end. UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS!
That is assuming the problem is on our end.
The fact that so many people on so many servers are having the same problem reinforces the fact that it is a server side problem!
Never put in a ticket with Anet support, huh? The problem is always on your end. UPDATE YOUR DRIVERS!
Sorry to tell you this, but all my drivers are up to date.
Lag is ridiculous today from EU. Constant DCs and lag, where everyone keeps moving for 5 seconds then warps back to their original position. Meh.
Lag is ridiculous today from EU. Constant DCs and lag, where everyone keeps moving for 5 seconds then warps back to their original position. Meh.
From of what I read, they have determined the issue for most folks in EU. Might I suggest looking into the suggestions they offered there to help with your issue. I think it is in the technical forums, but a dev tracker subforums look through should find it reasonably quick. Hope it helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c
Normally we could at least spam one but we can’t use any skills now. I would’t even be mad if they reduced the number of players that could be let into each map if that’s how they fixed it. Could we at least get an update?
Not even #1 works anymore.
Pls, Anet, give us at least a feedback.
ANET definitely messed something up with the latest patch. The lag has been horrible. Did anything change other than stability?
Yeah, lag is horrendous after the last patch. Don’t blame the players’ ISP, because even people near your servers are having this kind of lag.
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Please stop with the cut and paste responses, Devs. Every person experiences the same lag spikes from different areas of the country at exactly the same time: when there are big fights. Over the years, you guys have done a great job in reducing lag. For me, it’s been almost non-existent even in the largest fights (I’m in T1 btw). But then, that mid March patch hit and everyone is complaining.
Everyone’s graphics cards do not need updating. Everyone does not need to run tracer pings. Everyones ISP around the world is not failing at exactly the same time. This is not our issue when every single player is experiencing the same thing. This is with the patch. Acknowledge that this is a fault with the patch, because, frankly, getting those cut and paste responses infuriates people. This is your issue, and it needs to be addressed.
Lets not take 2 years to bring it to where it was before the patch.
Thank you. Concerned WvW player.
Still no reply from a mod?
Come on, this is a seriously issue which occurred with the stability patch! It is not on our side, and we need this looked into!
ANET,
How about reading the thread and acting upon or providing feedback on the communities complaints instead of deleting or infracting the posts?
Thanks……
What does a mod, tending to post that violates the rules, have to do with a dev respose?
Do you ask your accountant to stop accounting and pump your gas?
Sadly here it seems that the gas attendant is already doing the accounting, hence the lag issues:-)
Indeed, but we seriously need someone to reply to us.
You know that old age invention called communication, we need it now.
Devs do look at the forums, but not much the WvW forums, this it looked after a mod instead. We need that mod to reply to this thread to imform us they have read it and passed it onto a dev.
Even our forum specialist is still MIA, so we cannot even get him, who has the greatest chance of communicating with a dev, to do anything!
We are in a right sorry state on this forum regarding WvW.
Of course they are aware of the problem. Just by them telling us that the servers are not good enough to keep up with all the actions going on is not gonna help us much. Rather, they would admitt the problem is at their side, resulting into more people leaving the game due that they will lose faith in the company. Not something arenanet would want.
I would just wait till the expansion if I were you. Don’t think they will optimise a lot of things with the current borderlands at the moment but rather just try to optimise the peformances with the new borderland.
Taking a break until they fixed it, playing a game with ppl teleporting every few seconds and skills going off with rng delay gives me serious hedache…
Lag has gotten SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE since the stability patch… It’s probably not caused by the stability change but please acknowledge and fix.
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Please anet fix it or atleast acknowledge there is a issue so people will buy the expansion in hopes that WvW isn’t a slideshow…
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Quit violating my game mode, and fix this lag. Please
They don’t listen. I’ve told them to lower the limit until they have a solutio long ago. But they don’t do anything at all. Seems like they never do what the community want…
They don’t listen. I’ve told them to lower the limit until they have a solutio long ago. But they don’t do anything at all. Seems like they never do what the community want…
Sure they should fix the lag.
That leads one to wonder, how does not implementing a bad idea, correlate with them not listening?
JQBL was a blobfest in garri for reset night last night.. my guild decided to try and run a small group at first (bout 5-10man) and hopefully avoid some lag.. we were near north camp fighting a small 5 group havoc, half the map away from the garri blob fest and the lag was unreal. Teleports happening, skills taking sometimes a minute to cast. I think I stood in a static field for over a minute once.
We managed to kill the havoc group but I don’t think any skill was involved there — the lag was stronger with us than them.
Hi all – we’re aware of the problem and working on a solution.
They don’t listen. I’ve told them to lower the limit until they have a solutio long ago. But they don’t do anything at all. Seems like they never do what the community want…
Sure they should fix the lag.
That leads one to wonder, how does not implementing a bad idea, correlate with them not listening?
It’s not a bad idea. I’ll rather have 40v40v40 and that the game works than 80v80v80 and it’s all rng when skill works. If you got a better idea i’m listening.
Well, that was unexpected. The tech director actually stopped in here to fill us in? On a Saturday? Is… is everything alright over there, Anet?
In the past CPU usage would cause server lag – 100% CPU usage is not good. However we’re not seeing that now so I’m not sure lowering the map capacity will fix it (but I might try it). Instead now we’re seeing “lag curves” (server side) that grow over about a five to ten minute period and then resolve themselves. For instance I see an Eternal Battlegrounds map right now in Europe just had one of these spikes. Over a two minute period the server fell behind by 40 seconds (yikes!) and then caught up in the next 2 minutes; the server CPU did not exceed 80%.
I see another spike on a borderlands map now. Hmm.
At this exact moment all looks good. For me, it’s a bit like looking at all of the green characters dropping down the screen in The Matrix movies and then inferring your experience. Let me know on this thread how it goes the rest of the night (Europe time). I’ll keep watching graphs.
Noooo, I was enjoying more liveblogging about your debug process. I would love to get a look at your live heatmaps.
Oops. There goes another one in Eternal Battlegrounds. Dang.
As someone pointed out, since the stability patch the lag is terrible
Reduce the max number per map by 20 to 30 anyway. The Map-blob Pirate-ship Meta is killing WvW.
… and it’s resolving itself. That one lasted six minutes.
I have only to say WE HAVE A HUGE LAGS… Anet please dont check this, JUST DO WITH THIS SMTHING… We cant play like that..
Stephen, the Spikes are happening mostly for sure when a big fight is happening, that’s why it’s random (mostly random) and appears more on EB than on borderlands (since EB is usually more blobby than borderlands).
For what I have experienced, it happens when there is a 50-60 man blob (or more) fighting another one at a certain point. Lag is not appearing randomly when there is no fights in the map, only happens when the blobs fight eachother
EDIT. Also you will find these kind of spikes in the higher tier matchups, since the populations are way higher than others, so keep track of these with more priority
Hi all – we’re aware of the problem and working on a solution.
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