Guild Wars 2

briggah.7910:

Nieny.9418:

Ok i have only one more question , why only GW2 have problems like this, any ESO or WoW or other mmo… only we have skill lags, lags and others things..

LOL what? WoW had the worst lag ever..

Looky here https://youtu.be/JPdpMUoxxEQ

its from 2009 and they fix this in max 2 day not 2 years like anet…
I played wow 7 years so i know what im saying..

WoW had the worst type of lag because only a skilled player would notice, I would get hit by melee players while they looked out of range of my mage.

GW2 is by far a much better game for competitive gameplay when it’s working.

You haven’t experienced lag until you’ve experienced T1 3 way blob fights in garri. On April 3rd we started with 35 people from our guild playing. An hour later half of us had Disconnected from the servers. I was always 3-5 seconds behind everyone else. What was my ping? 90. Unacceptable..

WoW dont have problems like i press 100 times one skill and it doesnt work.. WTF

Nieny.9418:

WoW dont have problems like i press 100 times one skill and it doesnt work.. WTF

Yeah the difference was when they thought wow was working it wasn’t (very frustrating argument) but when gw2 works it does actually work.

At lease this problem we are seeing is quite definitive and it’s not just me. Believe me this is much better then being told its your gameplay thou you are top of a leader board. Thats how blizzard treats its customers.

Jesus people… stop derailing thread about other games or other issues. This thread is specifically for WvW lag since recent ‘stability’ patch. A Dev is nice enough to post & work on it so please ‘kitten off’!

Look at Farshivepreaks now

You should try primetime T1 EU with multiple guilds fighting in close range of eachother on a border, no funzies

Hi, I play in current match up Deso/SFR/JS. 2h ago there where big fights in SFR eb keep. Big lag, skill don’t respond, weapon swap don’t work ect. It occurs in 3 way blob battle, in 2 blobs battle things work better.

I suggest you to join SFR/deso/JS EB in about 1-2 hours to see the lag. FSP/AR/Gandara will also work at same time

I’ve just read the whole of this thread and wanted to say thanks to Stephen for spending so much time looking at our problems in WvW.

Also – This made me laugh :-)

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

That went really well. Tiny bit of spell lag. Now I’m dead and people are dancing on my anet corpse.

This level of interaction from Anet is great to see and is really appreciated!

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

That went really well. Tiny bit of spell lag. Now I’m dead and people are dancing on my anet corpse.

yay! dance, kittens, dance!

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

Now I’m observing t4 EU EB – I joined Piken Square.

GL, they are against 2 blob servers, but play there at 7 pm.(gmt) not 6. pm. (gmt), because it will be so called “prime time” or “lags time” – as we at deso call it now :P and a lot of ppl will be playing – many fights – huge lag spike. Also if u want to check out full scale lag join EB during WvW reset( Friday 7 pm. gmt – 7 if not delayed what happen many times during last months) and play for 30-40 mins

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

The t1 EB game is booking along at 90% cpu without lag (as tested by me hitting a skill) so maybe the timer tweak helped. Will move on to another server where there is more lag. (Maybe Far Shiverpeaks.) Wait! Epick battle just started in front of me!

You Should definetly check out eb in far shiverpeaks/gandara/augury rock lag was insane there few hours ago, and primetime is coming up soon

@Mod: are you serious about no lagg at EB map ?? 5 hours ago roughly.. we went inside SFR keep on EB and just standing in front of the gate before gave us such laggs as if the game would be going down… no it wasnt just me.. it were ALL people on the map having the same problem.. called lagg / skill lagg etc… since the past days its impossible to play… even just small fights ( 30 vs 30 and so on ) give us such insane lagg that we are even porting around for no reason..
everyone knows that your servers are the worst!! but this is biggest insolence so far… if its 3x hardcap zerg on the same map against each other and we receive skill lagg… ok we know it after those years… but this is just not good anymore… every step we take we get lagg

I usually lagg the most when 3 blobs goes up against each other. Well, lagg and lagg, I end up being unable to use any skills and I have to keep spamming my skills to make 1 go off. I also always have to keep asking myself if i’m still alive or if i’m dead :P
2 blobs going up against each other isn’t that bad for me but the skill lagg is still horrible.

Edit; 1 good thing about this (I guess) is that whenever a big group of people joins the bl i’m in, I can feel some lagg straight away so I kinda know whenever enemies are coming. Which is good for me as a scout I guess, because I know when to open my eyes wider..

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

Now I’m observing t4 EU EB – I joined Piken Square.

Stephen,
On Sanctum of Rall, WvW was unplayable last night and is little better this morning. Whether I am fighting 1v1 or 1 v many, lag spike are inevitable. I was unable to fight NPC’s in a camp for crying out loud. This issue is far from fixed.

T1 NA Prime time for the ultimate unplayable..

Tier 1, Green BL, around 17:55 server time. Massive skill lag, 3 way fight inside garrison. 40ish v 40ish v 40ish.

Edit: NA tier 1.

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

Now I’m observing t4 EU EB – I joined Piken Square.

Totally irevelant question Stephen but where did you faced heavier battles – EU or NA top tiers while you was monitoring them ?

Now instead of just lag spikes I’m getting lagged till I DC. Tier 6 NA

From what I saw last night EOTM had more issues than EB. Again just from MY experience. EOTM had bad lag even outside of big fights.

hmm in a sense then, instead of letting those packets arive and when people dc, maybe just directly letting them dc and creating a special spot in the possible queue in WvW for those dced so that its way more easily for them to come back. And maybe this then will create way less stress on the servers?

Paulie.6215:

From what I saw last night EOTM had more issues than EB. Again just from MY experience. EOTM had bad lag even outside of big fights.

But you are forgetting one really really important factor!

We dont care about EOTM here!

Good to see you’re still on top of this Stephen, usually we dont hear back from a mod/dev for 6 months :P

We still have lags on Farshiverpeaks!

T1 BGBL is a map that people have been avoiding because it is significantly laggier than other borderlands for some reason

Last week and this week, the server with the xxx.xxx.162:xxx /ip address was the most laggy, and currently that is the t1 bgbl

Well 1. dc in last 6 months. Before last patch it was only lagging / lagging hard mostly at EB, sometimes at borders. After March 16. It got to borders too and EB in unplayable. Today i got such huge lag at borders taht i got dced and landed in q25 – 1 person out in 2 mins – probably next dc( Stephen, is it Anet’s way to roatate ppl at borders? ). So basically I don’t insult u Stephen, u did great job by just answering here – this show that anet have some interest in WvW after all. Still it took over 3 years to make some progress and it isn’t such great – instead of less lag spike we got more and spikes to dc.

For sure not my connection 120 Mb/s and 100 is reserved for gw2 only.

Something on Desolation definetly has improved, although some do still have some delay, it’s not as bad as it used to be, but also not completly stable yet.

I play a couple of games daily, League of Legends, Tera, GW2, Tales of Pirates ( Old kitten game ), each with a more stable ping then GW2 has though. Right now I got an average MS of 102, I’ve seen numbers all around – 79, 46, 104, 51, 93, 129. How can the MS get as low as in the 40, and then at another time 129? While Tera shows a ms of 34 – 40, never any higher, League of Legends 15 – 18ms.
And server location is in Germany? Something that’s so close, it should be as stable as Tera. 1 upside, I haven’t seen 400+ ms anymore, but you lowered the map limit aswell? So for the cpu to hit 90% then that seems abit to high.

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

I believe you have lag, Nieny, but it’s not from the problem I’m looking at. Right now (meaning as I post this and for the last 10 minutes), nobody has lag from server lag. I was just talking to some peeps and one person with a 100 mps fibre connection was getting a 900 ping, then 20, then 900. That’s not the game. The people standing nearby had consistent 40 ping. I had 90. That’s not map lag. I don’t know what it is. People get mad when I suggest it is there ISP or their WiFi or someone in the house streaming Netflix. So I won’t suggest that.

its usually not the wifi itself… id guess its netflix eating bandwidth or 1 of many ISPs along the line

when wifi or my wireless card/adapter go bad, i experience inconsistent, frequent dcs, not high ping spikes

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

I believe you have lag, Nieny, but it’s not from the problem I’m looking at. Right now (meaning as I post this and for the last 10 minutes), nobody has lag from server lag. I was just talking to some peeps and one person with a 100 mps fibre connection was getting a 900 ping, then 20, then 900. That’s not the game. The people standing nearby had consistent 40 ping. I had 90. That’s not map lag. I don’t know what it is. People get mad when I suggest it is there ISP or their WiFi or someone in the house streaming Netflix. So I won’t suggest that.

BUT WE HAVE A SKILL LAGS … only i use my ISP and i use LAN no WiFi.. Anet please Buy new server.. that the best solution…
And we all have skill lag becouse we use wifi or smthing like that ? -.-

Nieny.9418:

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

I believe you have lag, Nieny, but it’s not from the problem I’m looking at. Right now (meaning as I post this and for the last 10 minutes), nobody has lag from server lag. I was just talking to some peeps and one person with a 100 mps fibre connection was getting a 900 ping, then 20, then 900. That’s not the game. The people standing nearby had consistent 40 ping. I had 90. That’s not map lag. I don’t know what it is. People get mad when I suggest it is there ISP or their WiFi or someone in the house streaming Netflix. So I won’t suggest that.

BUT WE HAVE A SKILL LAGS … only i use my ISP and i use LAN no WiFi.. Anet please Buy new server.. that the best solution…
And we all have skill lag becouse we use wifi or smthing like that ? -.-

You clearly didn’t read anything he said. Try again.

Uhm go EB t1 EU. Fight deso side, use an EU computer (not NA). Use Telenet provider (never had problem with it tbh, and ping is consistently 30 -90 (more often 30 range). I ac tivate grenade skill? Guess what it fails. Enemy freecast on me without probs. Only 1/10 skills, get true. Sorry but that is server lag, or either incredible complex ISP lag. My internet is faster then ever, downloading has never been this fast/responsive, and you guys say it’s ISP. Weird.

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

I believe you have lag, Nieny, but it’s not from the problem I’m looking at. Right now (meaning as I post this and for the last 10 minutes), nobody has lag from server lag. I was just talking to some peeps and one person with a 100 mps fibre connection was getting a 900 ping, then 20, then 900. That’s not the game. The people standing nearby had consistent 40 ping. I had 90. That’s not map lag. I don’t know what it is. People get mad when I suggest it is there ISP or their WiFi or someone in the house streaming Netflix. So I won’t suggest that.

It is Easter, so I’m a bit surprised you are rocking on this. Although I do something similar for HP, it is a fun way to occupy time as you peel away the various layers of the onion

Interesting take CPU usage and I won’t bother asking what the infrastructure is that you are running on but would love to know the details. That is, of course, somewhat secret I’m sure. Personally I’m happy with 80% utilization for buffer reasons but pay attention to queue depth and context switches. But again this is just noise from me because I really don’t know the internals.

Netflix consumes about what, over 30% of the world wide bandwidth? Then factor in youtube, twitch, oceanic hopes…no wonder some of us always say it is the latency stupid Let me redact that statement, I’m not calling anyone stupid and surely not the developers. It is a figure of speech when I get woken up in the middle of the night asking for help when someone can’t open something quick enough.

They say they are using an app in the cloud I ask their location, connect the dots, and find out that the middle man, er, ISP, is usually the cause. Then again, some people can cross the ocean extremely fast – Amazon comes to mind.

Anyway – I’m babbling. It is Easter and you should take a rest. But kudo’s to you for taking the time. Oh, side question. You wouldn’t happen to be the fella that was talking on the presentation I was looking at that you guys released a while back on infrastructure?

EDIT 1: Side note, and on topic – Ebay here. We had a pretty hefty siege going on for our keep from Crystal Desert. They had 10x more people than us and the battle was raging for about an hour at our keep. I never once noticed any lag, skill lag, or graphical delays.

Get to FSP – Gandara – AR now in EB … massive massive threeway and lag xD

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

People get mad when I suggest it is there ISP or their WiFi or someone in the house streaming Netflix. So I won’t suggest that.

That’s because we know the problem people are talking about now is on your side. Last 3 raids I had we my guild everyone had lag spikes at the same moment, many of us disconnected at the same moment. It was so unplayable all 3 raids were cancelled.

We’re not talking about the usual skill lag we have been getting in StoneMist battles since the game was released, where it takes 30 seconds just for a skill to go off.

What we are getting now are unusual lag spikes, where even if the game says your ping is 100 or below we see people teleporting all over the place, and it’s not isolated cases, it’s literally 90% of the guild having the problem on certain borderland maps.

It’s not hard to guess that one of your server machine needs a reboot or is broken.

lag on sfr atm ebg

Talked to soon, lag on Desolation back. Someone said ingame it shows 40ms, and he can’t use his skills, the rest of the guild lagged too.

I have to buy internet from Russia so as not to have lag?! -.-

Nieny.9418:

I have to buy internet from Russia so as not to have lag?! -.-

What?

Huge lag during 3-way in gandara-fsp-ar gandara ebg keep.
Currently in progress.

EDIT: And i dced after a minute of looking at people going in straight lines.

I broke my keyboard trying to get my skills off. Can I please get some compensation.

Thank you in advance

signed gandaran kitten ling in eb

Xillllix.3485:

It’s not hard to guess that one of your server machine needs a reboot or is broken.

I bet it never occurred to anyone at Anet to check this! :P

Stephen ClarkeWillson.1802:

I believe you have lag, Nieny, but it’s not from the problem I’m looking at. Right now (meaning as I post this and for the last 10 minutes), nobody has lag from server lag. I was just talking to some peeps and one person with a 100 mps fibre connection was getting a 900 ping, then 20, then 900. That’s not the game. The people standing nearby had consistent 40 ping. I had 90. That’s not map lag. I don’t know what it is. People get mad when I suggest it is there ISP or their WiFi or someone in the house streaming Netflix. So I won’t suggest that.

So i had 40 ping( according to setting’s numbers) and still had skill lags! Magic? I don’t think so and then we went into sm 3 way and bah everyone around 90 ping and all reporting skill lags for 1-2 mins at ts3. Stephen get to deso’s EB, join Deso ts and ask for going into sm 3 way. U will see what we mean by server’s lag and map’s lag.