Guild Wars 2

I’m not shocked by what was there, but I expected like 10 laurels and like 3-5 gold depending on where the server finished on top of that. I would have been completely happy with that.

They’re killing the game one update at a time. I have no idea what they’re thinking at this point. Why hype the chest up at all if you were just going to fill it with kitten?

My 5th place rewards were acceptable.

Hi liquid world experience
Oh wvw rank up
Oh Occam’s Weapon Chest

:)

We were 100% dedicated to WvW for 7 weeks, burning out several of our players and even multiple leaders in our guild. We pushed so hard we broke a server ranked above us, to the point where their largest wvw guild left the server. We had one of the most dominant 7 weeks ever in WvW. For a 250 use finisher and a few rares.

Wewt.

We actually needed at least a 100 gold reward, 100 laurels (mainly because WvW requires ascended trinklets to gear alts) and unique skins, not some worthless ascended mats. Beyond the disappointing reward, it’s more like, Anet killed WvW.

Good Job Anet. (Devon takes the cake. Help in crafting Ascended stuff. HAH. Not even remuneration for the kitten cost of crafting one. Takes 50 gold to craft one, remember?)

So what, the rewards from WvW have always sucked, I play WvW because I think it’s fun.
What’s up with the crying about the 7 week hardship you had to endure from playing WvW? Totally bs on that like somebody have already pointed out. I didn’t even noticed when I got the WvW season chest key( was during week 3 I think). 50% of the new people i saw in week 1 was never seen again for the rest of the season.

Thanks Anet for giving me a chest I otherwise wouldn’t get.

Righteous.4307:

ArenaNet,
I am sure that over the course of the next week that you will see countless threads popping up complaining about the rewards found in the WvW Season One reward chest. I don’t want to waste your time, but to be blunt something needs to be done. The rewards are… not only underwhelming, but for the health of WvW moving forward I feel that the current reward is inexcusable. Rewards in for events in GW2 (and any game) serve a few key functions:

1. Motivate players to partake in an event.
2. Provide adequate time/reward compensation to players who participate.
3. Grant players a feeling of accomplishment.

The current WvW Season One rewards do none of the above as the same reward for a 7 week undertaking is equal to about 30-40 minutes farming Frostgorge Sound. The implications may be greater than you previously anticipated. The full impact of the lackluster Season One reward should not be underestimated. Many servers in Bronze/Silver league worked diligently to recruit and motivate players who had never participated in the WvW game mode. Given the insignificant current reward getting people to try (and continue to play WvW) will only become harder. If no action is taken, when WvW Season 2 rolls around fewer players will be motivated to participate because the reward is not worth the investment of their time. Furthermore, as I’m sure you can see, the vast majority of the Season One participants feel that the reward was inadequate compared to their time investment. Finally, I think that it is safe to say that the current rewards provide absolutely no sense of accomplishment for anyone.

So, here is my clear and concise recommendation:

Amend the WvW Season One reward chest by providing the following-

1. Provide a unique, worthwhile reward for every player on every server who earned the reward key. Here are some suggestions:
a. An ascended quality back piece with a unique skin that is only awarded at the end of a season. (Think Karka Shell or Fractal Capacitor)
b. Utilize the release of the upcoming ascended armor release and reward players with a single set of ascended armor.
c. A single unique weapon skin (allow each player select one weapon from a set) that is only awarded in the WvW Season chests.

2. Remove the 250 count from the Gold/Silver/Bronze Dolyak finishers and make them permanent until the beginning of Season 2.

Many are suggesting that we as a community simply accept the current reward and move on. However I would encourage you to consider the long term implications of inadequate rewards on the GW2 playerbase between now and the end of Season 2. ArenaNet has these forums so that the players have a clear channel of communication to the developers. Luckily, ArenaNet does listen and is taking strides at showing that with the Collaborative Discussion as well as removing the Flamekissed Light Armor Skin being removed/reworked. Make your voice heard.

That was pathetic… got my chest, was about to start crying… 5 runs in AC worth more

Garrisyl.7402:

The thing is, Anet originally planned to have worthwhile rewards for the servers finishing in the top spots. However, several (justified) forum threads about the injustice in such a system, with most scores already set before the match-ups even started, made them see the flaw in that. So instead of giving top servers good, and the bottom servers bad rewards, they gave the bottom servers bad, and the top servers slightly less bad rewards.

Typical Anet, they had the option of giving good rewards to Top servers with slightly less good rewards to the others but somehow they don’t seem to comprehend that concept. I was expecting a little more for putting up with 7 weeks of getting facerolled crappy WvW matchups. Now I wonder why I even bothered.

While i don’t play wvw for the rewards, i still prefer the days before wexp was released, I must say the chest was pretty underwhelming.
You get better things from just doing tequatl once which only takes 10-15 mins.

I expected the chest to be crappy, because the WvW rewards are inevitably crappy, but even so I thought the chest was terrible. If the goal is to drive new people to participate in WvW in order to keep that particular game mode active and thriving, they failed completely. The rng nature of the reward just salts the issue, as ever.

I’m curious how this plays out with the new map. It’ll pull even more people out of the borderlands, leaving what, exactly? The pool of people willing to WvW on a regular base is pretty small, and bland, underwhelming rewards like the Season 1 chest do nothing to reverse the gradual decline in interest.

Hello all,

I think Anet could not finalize the reward until they had feedback from the WvW community.

The rewards are such because it is about Anet’s bottomline, which is cash.

If Anet gave too much a good reward, it would encourage even more stacking on the top server of the league, even after the 1st week, just so folks can finish their achievements.

This will encourage gem sales BUT this will not be good long term because this will increase attrition rates from all other lower pop servers.

Hence the rewards. I think Anet is seriously looking at whether there will be a Season 2 and if so how they can rework the mechanics/meta.

FW

Underwhelmed. It really does not matter how you spin it, what part of achieving the key you put the importance on, the feeling is underwhelmed. Mediocrity for the win!

It can’t be that bad, 9th place in bronze league and I ended up with an exotic and rare after the rank up chests, plus a thimble of wxp

Maximka.4128:

That was pathetic… got my chest, was about to start crying… 5 runs in AC worth more

5 AC runs? with just one you get double lol

9th place wvw chest. I am perfectly happy with 5 free levels, it’s more than I expected.

I laughed so hard when I saw the rewards…guess people who switched servers for better rewards got what they deserved, huh? The rewards were not worth switching servers. Thank goodness for the people on every lesser server who didn’t switch, they won the greatest rewards of all…a tight knit community, of which they probably all have each other’s trust due to this season. I know I deeply trust more than a few people on Ebay due to this season.

This post should be titled

“Please Give me more rewards for having more people”

You can’t have actual good rewards in a system that doesn’t reward being better then everyone else.

The Leagues aren’t designed around being better, its designed around having more people.

So the rewards just fine..

The rewards got me my my daily Agent of Entropy achievement..

I was very pleased to know that i won’t have to be putting any effort into getting the wvw meta achievement next season since i can get better loot ans achievement points from running around pve hitting 10 mobs. ^^

The reward, which for my part represented about 20 hours of gameplay, was quite frankly terrible in comparison to just about anything else I could have done – and indeed, on several occasions I turned down friends asking me to do dungeons or fractals with them because “if I leave WvW now I’ll have to queue for over an hour to get back in, and I want to finish the meta”.

Little did I know it would’ve been far more profitable for me to just abandon WvW whenever anybody asked me to do PvE content with them.

Actually, that’s the biggest issue:

The rewards weren’t communicated in advance. Players didn’t even have a chance to tell ANet that they wouldn’t be worth the effort.

I find the season 1 isn’t quite adequate for a PVE player who just went into WvW long enough to complete the meta. For the dedicated WvW players it is just a slap in the face. Not only are the rewards junk and not worth what I can do in 1-2 hrs in game via dungeons or champ farming, but they made it so 2nd and 3rd place don’t even get the dolyak finisher. What was the point then?

Pretty much every league knew who was going to be first place going in so what was the point of anyone from any other server putting the effort in? Plus I hear the dolyak finisher only has 250 uses. I think most people won’t use it after a week or two anyway but it still should be unlimited use. As far as that goes I think all servers should get a finisher. Just any server who didn’t take 1st-3rd should get the same one just for there work in completing the meta.

I spend most of my gameplay time since launch in WvW. Between all the extra time I put in during season fighting for my server and now the crappy rewards. I don’t know if I’ll be back into wvw for a while.

ANET said season 1 would reward people and help drive more people into wvw. I think with this slap in the face that it is going to do the opposite and drive dedicated WvW players like me away.

AcFiBu.9624:

For the dedicated WvW players it is just a slap in the face.

No, for the dedicated WvW player this doesn’t matter in the slightest. Since we don’t play for rewards, and those that did learned long ago that WvW is not really a good place if you want good rewards.

laughably bad rewards, but totally what I expected from this game.

I like the rewards, because i didn’t got any.

At least next year I’ll have the foresight to ignore pointless WvW achievement-specific grinding.

Instead I’ll focus on supporting my server by defending towers, protecting Dolyaks, refreshing siege, staying on pin and supporting the commander.

I’ll just have to learn to live my life without that ‘epic’ chest.

I think it’s not just the pugs but even major gw2 guilds will feel that it’s time to stop playing wvw. The rewards will forever be dismal and non-unique.

Well I didnt expect the chest reward being epic…and actually I am fine with what we got, like a permanent title, a dolly, 9 free levels.
But what really baffles me is that WvW related items such as badges, (superior) blueprints and traps are completely absent from that “WvW-reward” chest.

Probably this would’ve made too much sense.

Since I play WvW for fun and not rewards, I dont really care and Anet stayed its course in a sense…so no surprise here either.

:)

LoneWolfie.1852:

I think it’s not just the pugs but even major gw2 guilds will feel that it’s time to stop playing wvw. The rewards will forever be dismal and non-unique.

Oh?
Then they are quite clearly not WvW-guilds. Since every single real WvW-guild have been aware since release that playing WvW for rewards is stupid, and play it for the sake of having fun instead.

This is my first post on the forums, I felt this is the time and place to start voicing my opinion. The reward chest that was given to us this evening for completing the Meta in WVW was not worthy of our time. NOW with that being said, I am not saying it was bad. I just don’t feel it was worth the work for the meta. I think a finisher and a new weapon skin that said BEEN THERE DONE THAT would have been a better option then giving use items that could have been obtained elsewhere in the game. I would have been happy with a buff that was on my toon that had the rank my server placed. To sum up, ArenaNet thank you for providing me a fun game mode to play in but can you please try to make top end rewards in WVW or PVP different than the rewards for PVE.

Thank you for your time,

Dolyaks

yeah i would be happy with a skin that u can only get through this achievement and that shows that u were 1st, 2nd or 3rd as well and a skin for all the other servers. something a new player cannot get, because it is unique. people like showing off achievements. so each season should reward something unique.

lordkrall.7241:

LoneWolfie.1852:

I think it’s not just the pugs but even major gw2 guilds will feel that it’s time to stop playing wvw. The rewards will forever be dismal and non-unique.

Oh?
Then they are quite clearly not WvW-guilds. Since every single real WvW-guild have been aware since release that playing WvW for rewards is stupid, and play it for the sake of having fun instead.

Stop saying that. I probably play more WvW than you and do all the non-reward jobs that are vital to a map. And I don’t do WvW for the rewards, you’re right, there aren’t any really. But this was the inaugural season. People should have gotten something beyond a handful of greens and a rare. Account bound cloak or something, even if it was just a skin.

Righteous.4307:

The rewards are… not only underwhelming, but for the health of WvW moving forward I feel that the current reward is inexcusable.

I’ll preface this by stating that I’m closer to the 1% WvW player, spending the vast majority of my time in PvE. I intend to become more active, but I’m by no means an elitist PvPer. However, playing alongside and learning from serious WvW players, I come with a good understanding of what real WvW is about and what is/is not helpful.

PvE-esque rewards at the end of a WvW season was the last thing WvW needed. Increasing these rewards to continue attracting PvE players will be the next last thing it needs.

WvW communities never depended on people enticed by a box after checking off their achievement list.

Righteous.4307:

Rewards in for events in GW2 (and any game) serve a few key functions:

1. Motivate players to partake in an event.
2. Provide adequate time/reward compensation to players who participate.
3. Grant players a feeling of accomplishment.

1. Competitive play is generally self-motivating. You’re not there to farm gold and hear a story.
2. WvW success reaps many rewards: WXP, character XP, karma and loot bags to name some. The core of competitive play is the reward of community, team play and thrill of victory.
3. If you’re more focused on what the trophy looks like over your fireplace rather than what it took to achieve it, then I’m afraid you’re in the wrong game. In fact you should probably avoid competing because that’s someone who doesn’t get it. But I will be more than fair by stating that many season achievements were excessive and need to be toned down.

Righteous.4307:

If no action is taken, when WvW Season 2 rolls around fewer players will be motivated to participate because the reward is not worth the investment of their time.

With any due respect to you, you’re advocating for an ill WvW by giving out better rewards as an incentive for people to stay and play. Realize that you defeat the competitive community when you attract people who were otherwise never interested in the competition until you dangled a carrot big enough for them to chase.

If it were up to me I’d strip out some of these rewards and replace them with items useful to and valuable in WvW play. If you want easy bags, go find Jofast and learn to auto-attack. If you want to be rewarded for competing, it’s simple: play to enjoy yourself and find ways to win.

Honestly find it remarkable that this is coming from a commander. Surely not of the caliber of commanders I’ve had the privilege of following through some intense WvW play, nor the salt of the earth WvW players that make up the backbone of any server. This blow-back is expected but nevertheless resentful attitude. Shame.

As I stated, I’m one of the last people to jump into PvP yet I learned a lot about the philosophy of players. Some people won’t understand it until they play with the right people, and some people will just never understand.

Protoavis.9107:

My 5th place rewards were acceptable.

Hi liquid world experience
Oh wvw rank up
Oh Occam’s Weapon Chest

:)

Your 5th place rewards were better than my 1st place rewards by a long shot.

I am from SoR and we were in gold league and we got the third position.In the guild that I am enrolled around 100 people got the key and no one got at least one exotic. So disapointed, if I had spent my time, one hour or less, doing 3 temple I would receive more things.We spent a lot of hours in WvW doing a lot of boring things and the WvW was a mess because no one were doing colaborative game and they just wanted to get the achievements, and now we have this. nothing.Thank you Anet! You did great, oh you did.You must be glad about this joke you did giving us this loot.

Fadaxo.6943:

I am from SoR and we were in gold league and we got the third position

Wait.. you could have gotten the 3rd position, but you didn’t show up. So Carnished Toast is 3rd and they earned it.

yup, I feel bad for the number 1 server, not even a permanent finisher? Or a title saying season 1 best or something. A chance at a skin of some sort??? disappointing considering the effort involved.

NargofWoV.4267:

yup, I feel bad for the number 1 server, not even a permanent finisher? Or a title saying season 1 best or something. A chance at a skin of some sort??? disappointing considering the effort involved.

The thing however is that being the number one server doesn’t really have that much to do with effort, but rather having a stacked server.

And if they did give very special and cool items for the winners only (not counting the finisher) people would stack even more for season 2, and thus destroying WvW even more.

I didn’t feel like it was that bad, as a second place server member. However, I did expect to get some badges and maybe even some laurels. :/ I think everyone’s a bit burned out on WvW and this really didn’t help.

Awhahaha Well anyone that is WvW focused should have completely expected to get crappy loot and well hey at least we FINALLY were able to get a WvW title after over a year of play. The rest of the titles will still take at least a good couple months to years.

Congrats to the winners, losers, whiners and everyone inbetween that got lucky enough to accidentally get something good in their chest.

sure lets give people a full set of ascended armor which is coming out on the 10th and just by pass that. lol
seriously?

I don’t disagree with everything but that made me laugh.

Under Web.2497:

NO thought went into the reward. They don’t care about making wvw’ers happy – they are more concerned with not upsetting the pve’rs.
And to the comment about “thats what wvw’ers do anyway- why get a decent reward?”- this can be applied to fractals and dungeons – some people do things because they enjoy them, just the rewards for those that wvw are greatly reduced than those gained in pve.
ALL of this would not make the slightest difference if these rewards were purely cosmetic – BUT ascended is not purely cosmetic. But then again they said prelaunch that there would be no end game gear progression.

Please they added ascended items to wvw simply because they complained. Ascended items should have remained in fotm where they belong.

They should have atleast made the finishers permanent.

The rewards are laughable. How long does it take to do a typical PvE meta? 1-2 days. WvW we had to do far harder things for weeks. We should have been rewarded appropriately. What I got in the chest didn’t even cover the cost of the food that I used. Pathetic and a slap in the face.

I did 21/21.

I regret nothing.

I really thought the rewards would have been the mini,mats,money and siege blueprints. With all the stacking, trolling ,spying ,hacking to name a few things I saw during the season even in bronze league if the rewards were better it would become worse. The biggest problem is the game has become nothing but a farm/grind and I don’t see it changing. A good match-up for WvW keeps me playing the game but most are nothing more than easy win or instant loss.

So just opened my chest after I got DCed from WvW and was shocked to see the rewards. I got some greens, some rares a mini dolyak, but I was thinking that they would have given stuff usable in WvW.

Kjendar.6459:

So just opened my chest after I got DCed from WvW and was shocked to see the rewards. I got some greens, some rares a mini dolyak, but I was thinking that they would have given stuff usable in WvW.

Since nobody has figured out how to cheat with minis in WvW yet the dolyak is still usable in WvW.

Are these the rewards for the meta achievement? Or for being 1st place server?

Because if this is for the meta then the rewards are beyond good enough. They are better than any meta rewards to date.

Maximka.4128:

Righteous.4307:

ArenaNet,
I am sure that over the course of the next week that you will see countless threads popping up complaining about the rewards found in the WvW Season One reward chest. I don’t want to waste your time, but to be blunt something needs to be done. The rewards are… not only underwhelming, but for the health of WvW moving forward I feel that the current reward is inexcusable. Rewards in for events in GW2 (and any game) serve a few key functions:

1. Motivate players to partake in an event.
2. Provide adequate time/reward compensation to players who participate.
3. Grant players a feeling of accomplishment.

The current WvW Season One rewards do none of the above as the same reward for a 7 week undertaking is equal to about 30-40 minutes farming Frostgorge Sound. The implications may be greater than you previously anticipated. The full impact of the lackluster Season One reward should not be underestimated. Many servers in Bronze/Silver league worked diligently to recruit and motivate players who had never participated in the WvW game mode. Given the insignificant current reward getting people to try (and continue to play WvW) will only become harder. If no action is taken, when WvW Season 2 rolls around fewer players will be motivated to participate because the reward is not worth the investment of their time. Furthermore, as I’m sure you can see, the vast majority of the Season One participants feel that the reward was inadequate compared to their time investment. Finally, I think that it is safe to say that the current rewards provide absolutely no sense of accomplishment for anyone.

So, here is my clear and concise recommendation:

Amend the WvW Season One reward chest by providing the following-

1. Provide a unique, worthwhile reward for every player on every server who earned the reward key. Here are some suggestions:
a. An ascended quality back piece with a unique skin that is only awarded at the end of a season. (Think Karka Shell or Fractal Capacitor)
b. Utilize the release of the upcoming ascended armor release and reward players with a single set of ascended armor.
c. A single unique weapon skin (allow each player select one weapon from a set) that is only awarded in the WvW Season chests.

2. Remove the 250 count from the Gold/Silver/Bronze Dolyak finishers and make them permanent until the beginning of Season 2.

Many are suggesting that we as a community simply accept the current reward and move on. However I would encourage you to consider the long term implications of inadequate rewards on the GW2 playerbase between now and the end of Season 2. ArenaNet has these forums so that the players have a clear channel of communication to the developers. Luckily, ArenaNet does listen and is taking strides at showing that with the Collaborative Discussion as well as removing the Flamekissed Light Armor Skin being removed/reworked. Make your voice heard.

That was pathetic… got my chest, was about to start crying… 5 runs in AC worth more

It took me 1 year to realize that I had most fun in the games that makes you pay every month… GW2 seems like followed D3 pah and failed miserably…..

Well done, anet. Now those who play for trinkets can free up the queues for the rest of us who don’t.

Stx.4857:

Are these the rewards for the meta achievement? Or for being 1st place server?

Because if this is for the meta then the rewards are beyond good enough. They are better than any meta rewards to date.

For the meta. The only thing being first seems to be good for is 250 uses of the finisher.