Guild Wars 2

Slender Khaldran.3297:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

DoomGart.4709:

Hello everyone.
And where is the answer from Arena.net? I do not see their reaction, and it looks like indifference to the players…

That’s exactly what it looks like.

It seems that Anet will ignore us until we accept the fact that they won’t work anymore on skin or any “real” new contents…

It has been one workday… We may still hear from Anet.

Cotheer.2806:

As for the rewards, just taking into account S1 took 7 weeks, rewards should be way better. Personally i didn’t go for the meta, and didn’t get the reward, but i understand frustration.

Just because something is available for 7 weeks doesn’t mean it takes 7 weeks of work.

And funnily enough we haven’t really seen anyone complaining about The Tower of Nightmare metas reward, even though that have also been available for a very long time now.

The most infuriating thing is the usual lack of official responses.

Slender Khaldran.3297:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

DoomGart.4709:

Hello everyone.
And where is the answer from Arena.net? I do not see their reaction, and it looks like indifference to the players…

That’s exactly what it looks like.

It seems that Anet will ignore us until we accept the fact that they won’t work anymore on skin or any “real” new contents…

I think that Anet could add a nice gift wich do not affect the balance. For example, a miniature of SM, similar to a miniature from the Bazaar. Or interesting backskin. Or something else.

However,
I want to hear opinion from the developers about the situation. Do they think that players who require award is impudent? Or developers agree that the award is not high on the background of awards for other aspects of the game?

Anet, please notice this topic and share your opinion!

lordkrall.7241:

Cotheer.2806:

As for the rewards, just taking into account S1 took 7 weeks, rewards should be way better. Personally i didn’t go for the meta, and didn’t get the reward, but i understand frustration.

Just because something is available for 7 weeks doesn’t mean it takes 7 weeks of work.

And funnily enough we haven’t really seen anyone complaining about The Tower of Nightmare metas reward, even though that have also been available for a very long time now.

That’s becuase the tower of nightmares release significantly more rewarding… I think you might be missing the point. Look at the features section in the Tower of Nightmares:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tower_of_Nightmares_

The WvW reward had far fewer rewards than those available on the Tower of Nightmares. That is exactly the point of this thread.

I find it hilarious that people even thought that the rewards would be substantial.

Doing things like zerging towers, zerging camps, zerging dolyaks, trading ruins require minimal individual effort and imo the rewards reflect this. And please stop stating that they took seven weeks. It took a week with minimal effort.

And they stated before the leagues that the winners would receive temporary finishers….

Righteous.4307:

That’s becuase the tower of nightmares release significantly more rewarding… I think you might be missing the point. Look at the features section in the Tower of Nightmares:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tower_of_Nightmares_

The WvW reward had far fewer rewards than those available on the Tower of Nightmares. That is exactly the point of this thread.

Ah but we are talking specifically about the meta now, aren’t we?
I have personally gotten way more rewards for doing WvW season 1 meta than I got from doing ToN meta. And that is what we are comparing, is it not?

I dont know about you guys and why people are complaining. The reward is a lot better than the 3 green items i was expecting it to be… XD

WvW players from day 1 pretty much knew the reward would be nothing grandiose… Basic WvW costs the players a lot and don’t make nearly as much gold as in PvE. Why would one expect the season chest to be any better than the usual WvW rewards…

EDIT: and plus, its a better reward than other meta rewards & for people that have characters to level, those experience scrolls or w/e they are called are pretty cool. Really, the reward wasn’t that bad.

lordkrall.7241:

Righteous.4307:

That’s becuase the tower of nightmares release significantly more rewarding… I think you might be missing the point. Look at the features section in the Tower of Nightmares:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tower_of_Nightmares_

The WvW reward had far fewer rewards than those available on the Tower of Nightmares. That is exactly the point of this thread.

Ah but we are talking specifically about the meta now, aren’t we?
I have personally gotten way more rewards for doing WvW season 1 meta than I got from doing ToN meta. And that is what we are comparing, is it not?

What unique armor skin, unique weapon skin, home instance addition, healing skill, or compelling reward did you receive from your WvW Season One chest? You got all of those (and in some cases more than one) from the ToN release.

kingcragus.6810:

I find it hilarious that people even thought that the rewards would be substantial.

Doing things like zerging towers, zerging camps, zerging dolyaks, trading ruins require minimal individual effort and imo the rewards reflect this. And please stop stating that they took seven weeks. It took a week with minimal effort.

And they stated before the leagues that the winners would receive temporary finishers….

It easily takes seven weeks to complete the achievement if you have only 1-2 hours per day to play the game. Spending those 1-2 hours per day any other way in GW2 would have been much more rewarding.

I understand you might not understand the concept of having limited amount of free time if you are not working or studying full time.

To be honest I came back to the game purely for the WvW and it’s sad that it remains nearly impossible to get anything decent in the only aspect of the game with replayability for me.

I honestly laughed and shook my head when I get my season 1 chest. But if you have played since release, you should of saw that coming for WvW :p

Righteous.4307:

What unique armor skin, unique weapon skin, home instance addition, healing skill, or compelling reward did you receive from your WvW Season One chest? You got all of those (and in some cases more than one) from the ToN release.

Not a single one was given for the meta, since they were all in the gemstore, thus shouldn’t be counted as rewards gained during the meta.

There is one thing on your list that we actually got while doing the meta the home instance node. The skill was not rewarded for the meta, and not required by simply doing the meta. We also should count the rewards that we got for simply playing to get the meta.

From WvW Season 1 we got a title, we got mini, we got Ascended Crafting material, we got several WvW Season 1 Achievement Chest and we got quite a bit of stuff by simply playing WvW (which was required to complete the meta)

So all in all:

ToN:
Home Instance Node
Standard rewards

Season 1:
Title
Mini
Ascended Material
Standard rewards

I am not that good at math, but based on my calculations the Season 1 list is actually bigger.

Am I the only one that is chuffed at the reawrds? I mean, I got to play the only part of the game I enjoy and got free stuff for doing things I’d normally do. Sounds full of win to me….

Jal.5894:

Am I the only one that is chuffed at the reawrds? I mean, I got to play the only part of the game I enjoy and got free stuff for doing things I’d normally do. Sounds full of win to me….

The point I believe the OP was trying to make was every single other aspect of the game that others enjoy is more rewarding and there is no real reason for that.

once again trash…….

ArenaNet better get it together. Once a game comes out that has a good wvw this game will crash and they will be begging us to come back. Stop trying to fill your wallets first and focus on making players happy first. They will fill your wallets by keeping them happy.

Aeonblade.8709:

Jal.5894:

Am I the only one that is chuffed at the reawrds? I mean, I got to play the only part of the game I enjoy and got free stuff for doing things I’d normally do. Sounds full of win to me….

The point I believe the OP was trying to make was every single other aspect of the game that others enjoy is more rewarding and there is no real reason for that.

A fair enough point – but lets be honest, the WvW crowd is often a bit more organised than the PvE crowd (Guild raids, GvG etc) and does alot more to bring a server together than randomly auto-attacking mobs does (Community TS, massive PUG raids etc). Much of this crowd will still do WvW even with no rewards, and thus Anet sees an inelsastic demand for long term WvW spots with regards to loot on offer. I doubt this is the same for the PvE crowd

Aeonblade.8709:

Jal.5894:

Am I the only one that is chuffed at the reawrds? I mean, I got to play the only part of the game I enjoy and got free stuff for doing things I’d normally do. Sounds full of win to me….

The point I believe the OP was trying to make was every single other aspect of the game that others enjoy is more rewarding and there is no real reason for that.

Thank you for summarizing my thoughts so eloquently.

Can’t really remember what I got; I think it was two greens, two yellows, 100 of each of the level 500 crafting material and something else. I think we all learned something in Season One and how the rewards experiment went. Personally, I doubt achievement hunters will return because the rewards weren’t worth it but hey, I still had fun fighting to try and get first. Isn’t having fun what we are supposed to do? If you want money or something substantial, WvW has never really been the place.

kingcragus.6810:

I find it hilarious that people even thought that the rewards would be substantial.

Doing things like zerging towers, zerging camps, zerging dolyaks, trading ruins require minimal individual effort and imo the rewards reflect this. And please stop stating that they took seven weeks. It took a week with minimal effort.

And they stated before the leagues that the winners would receive temporary finishers….

The amount of time it took to finish the meta was highly depentend on your gaming time and/or your server. (just a little interjection)

But there is another problem:
While the rewards are not that bad per se (at least not for the top 2-3 servers, for the rest it might be debatable) in in-game “value”, they are still poor rewards or have a great potential to be recieved as bad rewards.
There are some factors that favor dissatisfaction, the most important are (in my opinion):

- The rewards were not known before. Unlike pve, where you know exactly what you’re going to get, here only 2 things were known – the finisher and the mini. You could not make a well informend “cost-benefit analysis”.
And you had room to speculate on possible rewards, that’s almost always a safe way to disappointment.

- The green items. Most people perceive bad or mediocre rewards (or presents) as a greater insult than non at all (interesting enough, that seems to be an anthropological constant), because it is a way of showing appreciation. The yellow ones would have been sufficent – a case of “less is more”.
The rng with those items clearly didn’t help either.

- No clear connection to the specific task. The rewards were quite generic, e.g. one of the first things I connected the rewards with, were the Tequatl dragon chests. There was nearly nothing that made it a wvw-reward: no badges, no siege, no wxp booster, very little wxp… every achievment chest has the same or a better connection to wvw!
In pve you usually get titels, skins or/and minis that are visually linked to the content. Here you got the titel (that was a good one), a mini (although minis can be quite problematic in wvw) and no skin to show off.
More over only the first places got finishers and those are limited-on-use (despite the fact, that is was stated before, that they’re going to be time-limited ’till season 2).

The result is a kind of conundrum with not-so-bad rewards being quite horrible rewards to a lot of players.

der don.9854:

There was nearly nothing that made it an WvW-reward: no badges, no siege, no wexp booster, very little wxep… every achievment chest has the same or a better connection to wvw!

Now that’s a lie because we got a Taste of WXP, which gave us a rank. Yeah, we should have gotten more, but still, they didn’t want to give people too much of a lead over newbies.

This whining about season rewards really makes my day haha
I bet if we all had an ascended piece of gear people wouldnt QQ about the loot but about the stats they did not want on it, anyway shape up and play wvw for fun, not for rewards/loot ( which are poor anyway compared with PvE, but the real WvW’ers already knew that)

I would of been happy with gold/badges/Laurels and that’s it.

Offair.2563:

This whining about season rewards really makes my day haha
I bet if we all had an ascended piece of gear people wouldnt QQ about the loot but about the stats they did not want on it, anyway shape up and play wvw for fun, not for rewards/loot ( which are poor anyway compared with PvE, but the real WvW’ers already knew that)

Please… finish your argument. What do you feel is the reason that WvW rewards should be poor compared to PvE? Why would you opt for this as opposed to the proposed solution?

Madora.9340:

der don.9854:

There was nearly nothing that made it an WvW-reward: no badges, no siege, no wexp booster, very little wxep… every achievment chest has the same or a better connection to wvw!

Now that’s a lie because we got a Taste of WXP, which gave us a rank. Yeah, we should have gotten more, but still, they didn’t want to give people too much of a lead over newbies.

It’s not a lie. They’re not saying that we didn’t get anything WvW-related whatsoever. They said “nearly nothing that made it an WvW-reward” and “very little wxep.” In other words, they already took into consideration the Taste(s) of WXP that we got as a reward And is pointing out that what we actually got was so incredibly limited that it wasn’t enough to make the overall reward feel like a WvW reward.

WvW darkhaven rank 2 was crap. The achievement chest you get ie 500 pt 1000pt 1500 pt and so on i got had a LOT more useful stuff and was way easier to get. it has hit our wvw hard as players that WvW a lot walked out on it. somthing over the last year i noticed is the rewords Anet is giving is just a joke compered to a year ago

Hahahaha. This is hilarious.
So many players who went WvW’ing for the sole purpose of getting rewards, are now raging because they were not sufficient and they wasted their time..
How about you stop playing for the sake of rewards and actually play the gamemode you find most enjoyable?
Hopefully all the braindead players spamming trebuchets 24/7 for achievements will now go back to PvE.

This reward was a slap in everybody’s face. The lack of response from Anet team is another one. In the beggining of the season I was very excited about the reward, now I dont know why I even keep playing this. One thing for sure, buy gems? No more. Why should I support a game wich the company dont care about the players enough even to reply a GLOBAL demand. Yes, EU and US servers are asking, complaining and you Anet? Where are you? Im done waiting and “we cant talk about it” is no longer acceptable.
At least you wont have to deal with the hours of queue that we’ve been through to get this joke as a reward, we’ll fix that for you soon enough. Just keep ignoring your players…

One more thing I forgot before:
It is a fallacy to assign the loot-bags or rank-chests to the season reward, because the acquisition is completely independent from the season.

KrisHQ.4719:

Hahahaha. This is hilarious.
So many players who went WvW’ing for the sole purpose of getting rewards, are now raging because they were not sufficient and they wasted their time..
How about you stop playing for the sake of rewards and actually play the gamemode you find most enjoyable?
Hopefully all the braindead players spamming trebuchets 24/7 for achievements will now go back to PvE.

Your incorrect, I don’t think I deserved any type of special reward because my server didn’t come in first. I do think the winning server deserved something unique, more than a 250 use finisher. Playing a game… Has a reward based factor involved in it, if not, we wouldn’t have ranks to put over our lil heads. Also, this is not a communist system, there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, not everyone gets the same stuff.

Also, it isn’t a great business model to entice folks to WvW, then push them away from WvW with lack luster rewards. Having a problem with too many folks WvW is a lot better than having a problem with just the die hard few who’s sole gaming experience revolves around WvW playing. No way a game company like Anet has this as their motto. Fix Que’s, bring in more maps, they can fix too many folks, it is a lot harder to fix not enough folks.

Daily reminder that lol, Anet has never given out good wvw rewards, did you really expect that to change roflmao is not an argument for the kitteny rewards. Anet can, and should have made them better and more relevant.

NargofWoV.4267:

KrisHQ.4719:

Hahahaha. This is hilarious.
So many players who went WvW’ing for the sole purpose of getting rewards, are now raging because they were not sufficient and they wasted their time..
How about you stop playing for the sake of rewards and actually play the gamemode you find most enjoyable?
Hopefully all the braindead players spamming trebuchets 24/7 for achievements will now go back to PvE.

Your incorrect, I don’t think I deserved any type of special reward because my server didn’t come in first. I do think the winning server deserved something unique, more than a 250 use finisher. Playing a game… Has a reward based factor involved in it, if not, we wouldn’t have ranks to put over our lil heads. Also, this is not a communist system, there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, not everyone gets the same stuff.

Also, it isn’t a great business model to entice folks to WvW, then push them away from WvW with lack luster rewards. Having a problem with too many folks WvW is a lot better than having a problem with just the die hard few who’s sole gaming experience revolves around WvW playing. No way a game company like Anet has this as their motto. Fix Que’s, bring in more maps, they can fix too many folks, it is a lot harder to fix not enough folks.

Playing a game has a reward based factor?
Please. The reward should be fun and personal improvement, not materialistic things.
CS 1.6 was one of the biggest competitive games of all time, and what rewards were you talking about again?
Also, I seriously had to laugh at the there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, not everyone gets the same stuff.-part.
The only reason why certain servers came on first place is because they have either:
1. More people
2. More people actually ridiculous enough to act like bots, completing boring and grinding content every day.
So if there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, why don’t I receive rewards everytime I win 3v8 fights?
Oh.. I forgot. I actually do. The sheer victorious feeling is enough, THAT is my reward. Why would I want anything else?

In my opinion I did not feel like the rewards in anyway matched the effort put forth. Personally I was in a 3rd place server and received 8 greens, 0 rares, 0 exotics, 1 taste of WXP, 0 Jugs of WXP. I cannot see the reason why I would feel like grinding this hard next year. I’m not sure we will see any attention to this matter either. It has felt as though there is less catering to the player lately, but that perception could be incorrect being a possible reflection of my personal frustration in this matter.

LordEnki.9283:

In my opinion I did not feel like the rewards in anyway matched the effort put forth. Personally I was in a 3rd place server and received 8 greens, 0 rares, 0 exotics, 1 taste of WXP, 0 Jugs of WXP. I cannot see the reason why I would feel like grinding this hard next year. I’m not sure we will see any attention to this matter either. It has felt as though there is less catering to the player lately, but that perception could be incorrect being a possible reflection of my personal frustration in this matter.

Posts like this makes me wish there was no chest at all. WvW should never ever be about grinding for stupid PvE things.

Maybe the chest should just stay the same. Let people know this isn’t Frostgorge.

Yo guys, they calling PVE LS Season One now too LOL https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/living-world-2013-the-year-in-review/

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

KrisHQ.4719:

Hahahaha. This is hilarious.
So many players who went WvW’ing for the sole purpose of getting rewards, are now raging because they were not sufficient and they wasted their time..
How about you stop playing for the sake of rewards and actually play the gamemode you find most enjoyable?
Hopefully all the braindead players spamming trebuchets 24/7 for achievements will now go back to PvE.

Your incorrect, I don’t think I deserved any type of special reward because my server didn’t come in first. I do think the winning server deserved something unique, more than a 250 use finisher. Playing a game… Has a reward based factor involved in it, if not, we wouldn’t have ranks to put over our lil heads. Also, this is not a communist system, there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, not everyone gets the same stuff.

Also, it isn’t a great business model to entice folks to WvW, then push them away from WvW with lack luster rewards. Having a problem with too many folks WvW is a lot better than having a problem with just the die hard few who’s sole gaming experience revolves around WvW playing. No way a game company like Anet has this as their motto. Fix Que’s, bring in more maps, they can fix too many folks, it is a lot harder to fix not enough folks.

Playing a game has a reward based factor?
Please. The reward should be fun and personal improvement, not materialistic things.
CS 1.6 was one of the biggest competitive games of all time, and what rewards were you talking about again?
Also, I seriously had to laugh at the there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, not everyone gets the same stuff.-part.
The only reason why certain servers came on first place is because they have either:
1. More people
2. More people actually ridiculous enough to act like bots, completing boring and grinding content every day.
So if there should be a reward for being better than the next guy, why don’t I receive rewards everytime I win 3v8 fights?
Oh.. I forgot. I actually do. The sheer victorious feeling is enough, THAT is my reward. Why would I want anything else?

1. BG won with the same numbers that we had… We had a Que, they had a Que, Que = server full. So not true, “more people”. Now if you are talking late night coverage, perhaps, but they would routinely beat us full que to full que in prime time. Hats off to them.

2. Your point #2 doesn’t help you “win” a season, it is only good for personal achievement reward, which was tied into how your realm finished, or was suppose to be.

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

MMORPG aren’t that at all. “Rest of us” is smaller than you think. It would be a terrible game if we were to WvW for whatever came out of that chest.

styx.7294:

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

MMORPG aren’t that at all. “Rest of us” is smaller than you think. It would be a terrible game if we were to WvW for whatever came out of that chest.

That wasn’t the point of my post, It was to explain because he asked “What?”

Aeonblade.8709:

styx.7294:

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

MMORPG aren’t that at all. “Rest of us” is smaller than you think. It would be a terrible game if we were to WvW for whatever came out of that chest.

That wasn’t the point of my post, It was to explain because he asked “What?”

I know but I just don’t like it when people say MMOs are about time and rewards. Skinner boxes are about time and rewards.

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since “rewards” are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

I am curious to see how you would explain the fact that people have been playing WvW since the start of this game, when rewards were absolutely atrocious. It was a MMORPG then as it is now, why didn’t all those people just move to PvE?

Aeonblade.8709:

KrisHQ.4719:

NargofWoV.4267:

Finally, since "rewards" are all over this game, it begs the question, with your attitude why are you playing a reward based game? Go play chess.

wut

You said you didn’t need rewards, victory was reward enough. For the rest of us, that’s just plainly not true. MMORPG’s as a genre depend on rewards for time invested.

So as the poster said, Chess or another PvP game with no rewards would be a better fit for you

You want rewards and shiny pixels because you’ve been conditioned to wanting it. What kind of ’rewards’ did Red Alert, Warcraft, Frogger, The Lost Vikings, Donkey Kong, Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Mario 64 etc etc. give you? Hm? We played those games because they were fun - we played to win, to improve, to beat that one obstacle that required extra effort. You want rewards because you’ve been brainwashed by the modern gaming industry - by the skinner box. Easy satisfaction - just push a button, and watch how your ingame pixels become more colorful.

It’s incredibly sad to see how many people who’ve been captured by the world of vertical progression and virtual work. Games are no longer about having fun, as evident in this thread, and the way modern games are built (skins, perks, achievements, power-progression, levels, unlocks etc.). It’s easy to see why developers go down this path, but it’s getting increasingly sad to see zombies slaving away in an online world, for non-existing materialistic gain.

Was I the only one that considered the chest and everything else from the season a bonus to just doing wvw? It’s only a time sink if you’re doing it just for the rewards/AP instead of doing it to do wvw….

The rewards are perfect. Up your’s, bribing server.

Sam Gem.1246:

The rewards are perfect. Up your’s, bribing server.

You clearly didnt read the post… I want everyones rewards to be better. Not just winning servers. In fact the only difference for winners should be the finishers/bragging rights.

Garrisyl.7402:

The most infuriating thing is the usual lack of official responses.

I personally really wouldn’t be too worried. If they’re going to make any changes, they’ll only actually occur in something like 3 months/half a year.

I’m a weekend player and also a achievement hunter, I can’t even get 15 achievement “stopped at 13”, It’s too time consuming. for me’ personally I really hate this type of “time vs massive amount of counts” to clear the achievement.

Sarrs.4831:

Garrisyl.7402:

The most infuriating thing is the usual lack of official responses.

I personally really wouldn’t be too worried. If they’re going to make any changes, they’ll only actually occur in something like 3 months/half a year.

It’s not because Anet acts this way that we should stay calm and not complain about an injustice.

15,500+ views on this thread. The overwhelming sentiment stated by players has been that the community feels as though the reward is too low for the longterm health of WvW.

I really hope that we get an official response soon. Even if its just a, "No, we feel that the reward is justified because of _____________. "

I only missed some WvW reward. Like Badges or siege.
i got 2 blues,1 green, mini dolyak,Wxp flask, ascended material(like I ever use it in wvw), 7 lvl scrolls and few skill point scrolls.

It really seems like PvE reward than WvW. No badges,no siege.