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So, now we have had TWO prominent lesbian romances:
1. Caithe and Faolin
2. Marjory and KasmeerAnd no heterosexual romances “in the spotlight,” or other species, or….
I’m not saying they don’t exist. We have the backdrop romance of Logan and the Queen, for instance, and the two cooing quaggans in the refugee camp, together since the Tower of Nightmares.But none of them have had much spotlight. But now we have had two that seemed to get more spotlight than the rest, both lesbian romances.
To preface my own personal attitude and to hopefully deflect accusations of homophobia, I could’t care LESS what someone’s sexual proclivities are, as long as the people are all consenting adults. I’ve been friends with homosexuals, swingers, BDSMers, the list goes on and on.
But I also know that the mainstream IS heterosexual. And having now TWO lesbian romances back to back in the stories as the closest thing to a spotlight romance does now raise my eyebrow: it feels like it’s a social agenda being pushed.
I don’t like social agendas in my entertainment. I just want to be entertained, not proselytized to.
So why now two of these in a row? If the story writers were just trying to write something “different,” they could have mixed it up. Why not a romance in a different species, or in BETWEEN two species? For example, Braham and Rox!
I’d love to see a quaggan/skritt romance, just because I think it would be hysterical.
I’m just saying, it seems/feels now after two of these prominent that its a social commentary. If not, why two of these back to back? If so, well, please, we don’t need to have a social commentary shoved down our throats. Just entertain us, and if adding in romances, remember who the MAJORITY is, or at least mix it up with other romances, such as the type we would not normally see.
Norn/quaggan? Human Charr? Golem/Asura? :-D
And actually, someone else I saw posted here they felt the lesbian scenes weren’t for a social agenda but for the pandering to the “fanboy” out there, and why didn’t he get to have two men in a romance? His question, not mine, but I did find it an interesting one.
Anyway. I’m just saying. As a hetero male myself, who DOESNT find lesbian porn interesting, I’m interested in hetero romances, not homosexual ones… or romances that we couldnt see in the real world. Have one lesbian romance if you need it, but please remember that the majority of people ARE hetero, and we would like to have our interests “pandered” to as well.
And it doesn’t mean we are homophobic. We just happen to have our own interests in what we like.
Heck, last time I saw the two quaggans at the refugee camp, the female quaggan, on saying she hated scarlet and wished she would DIE, I thought she sounded borderline ready to transform to that Piranha Hulk state that I thought it would have been cool for her to show up ready to chew on Scarlet some!
(as a side note, I did find it interesting that Marjory appeared not lesbian, but pansexual; she appeared to flirt with anything that moved; I would have found it far more interesting if she DID flirt with just about everything, and thus took more time to get closer to Kasmeer, maybe even have some friction about it in the beginning…. and Scarlet’s crack about dating Caithe in the Aetherblade dungeon was hysterical too! )
And here I’m concerned that the politically correct crowd is going to attack me for this post… but like I said, I don’t care about people’s proclivities in general… after all, I have a “proclivity” that I’m not going to discuss here. I just think that two in a row for a game like this is a bit odd and eyebrow-raising. Next storyline, think we can steer away from a third repetition and give us something a little different?
I think it’s sweet
and that french kiss was steaming hot too, at the end scene in Scarlet’s end. Instant kitten.
Heterosexuality may be mainstream and the norm in real life but who knows what sexuality is like in Tyria? Everybody could be aggressively bisexual so having a lot of homosexual relationships wouldn’t really be seen as uncommon.
Also, heterosexuality is already well represented in the media so why does it matter that this game chooses to have two homosexual relationships? Although, I would agree with the other user who said the Caithe/Faolain relationship is more in the background.
That being said I do agree with some of the other users that the whole romance subplot was handled a little sloppily but I expect that was due to time constraints mostly.
I much prefer Peneloopee and Bloomanoo as a romantic subplot though
I enjoy the romances! Besides, there’s Logan and Jenna and… the unspoken Logan/Rytlock bromance.
(I also agree about the Quaggans!) There’s nothing wrong with a little romance in the plot. I also took a screenshot of the Kasmeer/Jory cutscene to share with my gamer friend and her girlfriend – it might convince her to give GW2 a try!
Also wouldn’t mind a little romance for my character… lookin’ at you Faren and Ihan.
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I enjoy the romances! Besides, there’s Logan and Jenna and… the unspoken Logan/Rytlock bromance.
Also wouldn’t mind a little romance for my character… lookin’ at you Faren and Ihan.
My Asura would have been a home wrecker to Tonn in a heartbeat.
#RIPTonn
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I would have liked to see more male homosexual relationships but my gut feeling is gw2 player are just not going to take a male relationship as well as they will take a female one. It’s horrible but true
I wish it was different.
There is a male Sylvari couple early in one of that race’s personal stories. I’ve never seen any objection about it.
Also, Rytlock and Logan are clearly the #1 couple in the game.
This is an old reply but I saw nobody reply to you. Actually there was a loooooot of qq threads (that literally was it, people complaining for no actual reason) about it while in beta and launch. People just got over it with time because they are further in the game’s story. The people that cared back then have either left or passed the phase in the story so are not “being shoved down their throats” the relationship between these two characters.
I am honestly afraid Anet could not have a canon male gay couple in the main cast without horrible homophobic backlash as we have already seen it happen. And the amount of complaints about Kasjory is even more telling that a loud minority of players can’t accept homosexual relationships as normal and demand “equality” (seriously? are you kidding me????). You [general you] are simply ignoring all of the heterosexual relationships because it is default in our society. Of course a queer relationship will stick out like a sore thumb to you because of the status of our media – you’re not used to it.
Empty complaints. What if the sole cast of characters were aaaaaaaaalllll gay and women???? Who cares. It’s not like the opposite (all male and hetero) is not something that happens in other games. The “acceptable” ratio you are wanting is actually already equitable and you are making a big deal out of n-o-t-h-i-n-g.
I would have liked to see more male homosexual relationships but my gut feeling is gw2 player are just not going to take a male relationship as well as they will take a female one. It’s horrible but true
There is a male Sylvari couple early in one of that race’s personal stories. I’ve never seen any objection about it.
Also, Rytlock and Logan are clearly the #1 couple in the game.
This is an old reply but I saw nobody reply to you. Actually there was a loooooot of qq threads (that literally was it, people complaining for no actual reason) about it while in beta and launch. People just got over it with time because they are further in the game’s story. The people that cared back then have either left or passed the phase in the story so are not “being shoved down their throats” the relationship between these two characters.
I am honestly afraid Anet could not have a canon male gay couple in the main cast without horrible homophobic backlash as we have already seen it happen. And the amount of complaints about Kasjory is even more telling that a loud minority of players can’t accept homosexual relationships as normal and demand “equality” (seriously? are you kidding me????). You [general you] are simply ignoring all of the heterosexual relationships because it is default in our society. Of course a queer relationship will stick out like a sore thumb to you because of the status of our media – you’re not used to it.
Empty complaints. What if the sole cast of characters were aaaaaaaaalllll gay and women???? Who cares. It’s not like the opposite (all male and hetero) is not something that happens in other games. The “acceptable” ratio you are wanting is actually already equitable and you are making a big deal out of n-o-t-h-i-n-g.
I wouldnt have a problem with a male-male romantic plot either… as long as they start giving more screen time to more standard relationships too, OR if they would start exploring more unusual relationships like interracial.
Actually, interspecies would be more accurate I suppose.
Heh. I want to see an Asura who invents a “love golem.” LOL
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Theres the newlyweds in Ascalon Settlement in Gendarran Fields that come outside for the first time in days and then go back in after a few seconds.
My favorite hetero relationship in the game is the bandit man and the seraph woman, hidden away. I don’t remember where it is, but when I found it I sat with them for a while.
Harathi Hinterlands
Thanks for that, do you happen to remember their names?
I thought it was just “Romancing Bandit” and “Romancing Seraph” or something?
Ah yes romancing bandito.
thanks ^^ (and seraphette) lol play on words
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I would have liked to see more male homosexual relationships but my gut feeling is gw2 player are just not going to take a male relationship as well as they will take a female one. It’s horrible but true
There is a male Sylvari couple early in one of that race’s personal stories. I’ve never seen any objection about it.
Also, Rytlock and Logan are clearly the #1 couple in the game.
This is an old reply but I saw nobody reply to you. Actually there was a loooooot of qq threads (that literally was it, people complaining for no actual reason) about it while in beta and launch. People just got over it with time because they are further in the game’s story. The people that cared back then have either left or passed the phase in the story so are not “being shoved down their throats” the relationship between these two characters.
I am honestly afraid Anet could not have a canon male gay couple in the main cast without horrible homophobic backlash as we have already seen it happen. And the amount of complaints about Kasjory is even more telling that a loud minority of players can’t accept homosexual relationships as normal and demand “equality” (seriously? are you kidding me????). You [general you] are simply ignoring all of the heterosexual relationships because it is default in our society. Of course a queer relationship will stick out like a sore thumb to you because of the status of our media – you’re not used to it.
Empty complaints. What if the sole cast of characters were aaaaaaaaalllll gay and women???? Who cares. It’s not like the opposite (all male and hetero) is not something that happens in other games. The “acceptable” ratio you are wanting is actually already equitable and you are making a big deal out of n-o-t-h-i-n-g.
I wouldnt have a problem with a male-male romantic plot either… as long as they start giving more screen time to more standard relationships too, OR if they would start exploring more unusual relationships like interracial.
Actually, interspecies would be more accurate I suppose.
Heh. I want to see an Asura who invents a “love golem.” LOL
The problem with this thinking is you’re saying homosexual relationships aren’t ‘standard’, and you’re calling them ‘unusual’. They really aren’t, they’re rarer, yes, but they’re just as ‘normal’ as a heterosexual relationship.
I’m not saying you’re trying to be homophobic, and it’s clear you’re not maliciously being homophobic, but you’re arguments could be considered unintentionally homophobic, because you’re giving a double standard. If there we two major heterosexual relationships in the game, you wouldn’t bat an eyelid most likely, but because there have been two ‘major’ lesbian relationships, suddenly it’s ‘odd’ and ‘unusual’, and something should be done about it. And I’m using the term ‘major’ loosely, since Caithe x Foalain was hardly a major relationship, it was only mentioned briefly in the Personal Story and a bit more in the Twilight Arbor dungeon, not to mention that the actual relationship was already over when we learnt of it. I’d argue their relationship has about as much focus as the relationship between Logan and Jenna.
The Kasmeer x Marjory relationship has had a bit more screen-time, yes, but it’s hardly been thrust into our faces, with the possible exception of their kiss, which is all it was, a kiss, hardly anything that major.
If they added another couple of lesbian relationships before adding anything else, then I’d partially agree with you, but think about it, you made this thread because a game has -two- lesbian relationships in it, -two-.
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