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+2 for pvp vids as well!

Osicat.4139:

all

Must ask, is there any interest in a vid where I show my spvp build and gameplay?

I use a rather different gamestyle and setup for this, sure somone else play something lil simmilar but so far not seen any other mesmer in the games I play with this setup.

Or you rater want the vids to stay on wvwvw?

/ Osicat

Sounds like a great idea :D
Is it the 20/20/30 condition build :o? Ive seen taht one in action and its a lot of fun ^^

So I updated the guide and it now have a own sPvP section.

Also first sPvP video is up.

Enjoy:

/Osicat

Do you suggest that the Heavy 3.0 build is the best all around build right now? I run with 1-2 thieves away from our zergs and we try to scout areas and take out trailing zergs. When I run with my thief, I can keep up and stay stealthed for getting away and easy survival.. but I am having trouble getting away and keeping up when I play my mesmer.

Would the mist build be better for this sort of play due to high dmg output and permanent swiftness? I am trying the heavy 3.0 and it just seems slow. I have heard of more stealth based build but didnt know if you looked into those sort of things much. Have you updated the Mist build recently?

Thanks

@Stimulant, I find S C Heavy 3.0 as the bets overall build atm as it do well in so many areas, this said Its not the best build for every single area, its just wery flexible and let you be good at alot of things. The more specialised builds will ALWAYS be best in their “speciality”.

Example, a pure dueling Phantasm build will always be best at duels, but it be lacking alot in other areas, same a GS glacannon zerg build will be best in this area but eaten alive if trying to raom with it solo.

So If u want to do seveal tasts in wvwvw, gvg, smal/mis/solo roaming etc 3.0 is fantastic, it even a good support build if u get the “signet of share the might”.

If you thu want to specialice in solo romaming or roam with 2 thiefs then Mist 2.0 is faster and better for this.

Another build you might look into for roaming solo or with thiefs is in fact the stealth builds you mention. WERY WERY effective in wvwvw. I play this alot with 2 thiefs and we can destroy big numbers and troll whole zergs.

/Osicat

Osicat.4139:

Also first sPvP video is up.

That was a pleasure to watch. Finally we get to see the cat in some spvp action <3

I have been giving Greatsword + Sword+Focus a try with this build, so far i quite like it. It is a bit more offensive with pretty much no get out, unless you utilities or something but maybe tweaking about with gameplay style could help that. Currently i am staying quite close Mirror Blade is pretty sick with the extra bounce trait. The knock back is quite good as well, Not as good as Chaos Storm one though but thats based on opinion.

Osicat.4139:

@Stimulant, I find S C Heavy 3.0 as the bets overall build atm as it do well in so many areas, this said Its not the best build for every single area, its just wery flexible and let you be good at alot of things. The more specialised builds will ALWAYS be best in their “speciality”.

Example, a pure dueling Phantasm build will always be best at duels, but it be lacking alot in other areas, same a GS glacannon zerg build will be best in this area but eaten alive if trying to raom with it solo.

So If u want to do seveal tasts in wvwvw, gvg, smal/mis/solo roaming etc 3.0 is fantastic, it even a good support build if u get the “signet of share the might”.

If you thu want to specialice in solo romaming or roam with 2 thiefs then Mist 2.0 is faster and better for this.

Another build you might look into for roaming solo or with thiefs is in fact the stealth builds you mention. WERY WERY effective in wvwvw. I play this alot with 2 thiefs and we can destroy big numbers and troll whole zergs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWjWeU7qRvo

/Osicat

I have been running the non shatter/stealth build and wow.. that’s the most fun i’ve had on mesmer in awhile… epic troll build that is still effective.

Thanks. would be #1 build if confusion wasn’t nerfed to hell

All

Update.

New video, tweeked the condition build a little and will update the build in the guide in the comming day/s

Enjoy the ressult, Extrem condition dmg roaming build.

/Osicat

Hey Osicat i personally love the hybrid shatter build but seeing the recent patches that no longer viable to use that as a solo roaming build considering it lacks condition removal so seeing the heavy 3.0 i was wondering if it was good to switch portal to mirror images to get more might stacks and bleeding down.

Hi Osicat!
First, thank you for your vids, real pleasure to watch and love your playlist

Btw, i start my mesmer and now he is full stuff (shatter cat mist ), i love play solo in WvW, but it seem like I don’t do damage to warrior, but realy low damage, it seem like i’m doing it wrong…And not only warrior, I have real problem with other mesmer, my clone explod on their clone…
I try to learn in your vids how burst, but i do only 1/10 of your damage….
If you have others advices…

Thank you a lot
( sry for english… )

PH Law.4063:

Hey Osicat i personally love the hybrid shatter build but seeing the recent patches that no longer viable to use that as a solo roaming build considering it lacks condition removal so seeing the heavy 3.0 i was wondering if it was good to switch portal to mirror images to get more might stacks and bleeding down.

I personally see no problem with it. I think the Condition problems are more of a S/TPvP issue then WvW (unless you are in huge zergs) Solo though its not really required, you have plenty of space around you if you require an escape.

As long as you are able to keep distance, moving around and using stealth to confuse i think it helps as i have found that my clones normally get the condition burst from Necromancers and i always keep an eye out on what weapons Necro especially are using so i know what i can expect from them.

I find F3 to be very useful against them as i tend to use them when they are about 50% health, staggered and combined with Greatsword knockback and the Focus pull i can chain them to the point that it gets them down as its normally around 50% health that they seem to really health.

Rarely encounter solo condition builds, the moment they see me and i go stealth they seem to get a little nervous i then normally go into the Mirror Blade for the damage, Might and clone at which point they worry and will quickly dodge for another clone and move away for my iZerker at that point its just a straight up fight, moving around, and dazes – i tend to go more for the Dazes over the MW, of course while the daze is on cool down i go with MW i NEVER use CoF as i find it to be very weak. A well timed Distortion can negate most of there burst, same with BF doesnt matter if you dont damage them used defensively it can be a great skill as well.

@All, sorry for late answers here. I just started work again at the ambulance after my summer vacation so Im off longer shift form time to time. I will keep answer thu but sometimes it take a day or 2. Sorry for this.

@PH Law, Hybrid still a viable build just as Ash say, if it was not I would not have it in my build list. It do thu remain as a glascannon alternative and even if its survival is a bit low it teamed up with another player do serious burst. I do persnoaly prefere it as a pve instance build and find Shatter Cat Heavy 3.0 do alost same dmg but have 3 times the survival.

For Shatter Cat heavy 3.0 its dmg is INSANE in balance to its survival. Its based on the mightstacking emcanism to reach even higer power+condi dmg than the glascannon specces. Swap portal for mirror is vaivle. not only for its extra dmg but also for the stunbraking. I prefere portal thu as this give another “oh kitten” button. I often roam for 1-2 hours solo on morning without die, this is only happening due to portal as it let me bail if outnumbered or my attack was suicidal.

@ArmageddonAsh Good post, cheers for adress how to necro with GS. I have anotehr way to fight encros and rarley use GS so good that you input your experience with the setup here. For solo condition builds I dot run into alot of em eather. Last week I was the only meser I saw roaming with the setup, but jesus I had fun. Last run I had 25 stacks on my wep al ONLY from player kills did a 2,5 h roaming run, downed and killed 30+ ppl and never died/ got downed. The spec is a killer. in combat I have 2000+ tougness 2100+ condi dmg and a kittenload of stealth.

/Osicat

@all

One of my best fights latley. Impressive enemy playskills and teamwork.

/Osicat

Hey Osi, what build would you use for ~20 players WvW “Zerging/Roaming”. The Heavy 3.0? I’m starting to slowly shift away from my Ranger in my guilds WvW nights.

@My Sweet Lily, I would use Dmg&Support or Heavy 3.0, both bring something to your team + alot of controll.

/Osicat

Osicat.4139:

@ArmageddonAsh Good post, cheers for adress how to necro with GS. I have anotehr way to fight encros and rarley use GS so good that you input your experience with the setup here. For solo condition builds I dot run into alot of em eather. Last week I was the only meser I saw roaming with the setup, but jesus I had fun. Last run I had 25 stacks on my wep al ONLY from player kills did a 2,5 h roaming run, downed and killed 30+ ppl and never died/ got downed. The spec is a killer. in combat I have 2000+ tougness 2100+ condi dmg and a kittenload of stealth.

Yeah i can’t remember the last time i actually encountered a condition build roaming. I was doing quite a bit last night and i didn’t encounter any. I am finding it a little easier after replacing the Staff with the Greatsword to counter thieves now. Illusionary Persona helps SO much here as they tend to be 99% of the time melee only focused.

Diversion, Illusionary Wave and Illusionary Leap are a great combo being able to block them from going into stealth and locking them down with Illusionary Leap/Swap makes it so much easier to fight them and i will pop Phantasmal Warden as soon as possible and when they go stealth i will hug Warden as well. I sometimes even take Mantra of Distraction if i manage to get the jump on a Thief or see one and know that i am likely going to be attacked.

I really wish that AT swapped ALL conditions and ALL boons, that would really be great against Guardians and Engis that just love to burst boons onto themselves but i doubt that would ever happen.

How do you deal with condi loading pistol thief? (heavy 3.0 build atm) would you just kite away? seems with all of the stealth +sneak attack damage it is tough to do any damage to them.

Osicat.4139:

@all

One of my best fights latley. Impressive enemy playskills and teamwork.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKtBZ3v4RUA

/Osicat

Good stuff Osi, as usual. I loved the “incombaytfua” response you gave to the person asking you for build advice, I laughed it up pretty good. Cheers to you for attempting to respond in a hectic fight …

Hey Osicat,
For Dmg&Support build, i ve some quiestions,

• if yes why not Debilitating Dissipation instead of iDefans
  *instead of oil why not sharpening stone it decrease your avarage damage, and on sigil, and when u get fury u get less advantage rather than power
  *could it be better sacrifice -%20 cond rather than rune of strength, or how about melandru with some other food ex might on dodge or damage foods?
  *and dont u take shower with full burst on retal buff or on chaos armor
  *and if u ve veil instead of decoy, what u do with cc for being on frontline what u suggest or u have the same problem?

@Moaning Marv, itsa troll spec good mainly for 1 vs 1, just dont give him hes fight. If you in the condi build I use latley he will flee thu.

@Azo, I have to apologice, I dont realy get al you ask here. I try my bets answer what I get thu

1- Support build dont have any points in chaos, so neater are relevant. If it had used any thu I would used illusionary defense due to any GS build need ALL suvival it can get.

2 – I prefere try max crit, both ways are valid but for the support build I want crita s high as possible, this as Im not after constant dmg, im after burst on already wounded tagets in a group fight. Im about to update the build thu in the comming week and we will se more might on the setup.

3- Sorry lost me, Melandru is valid setup thu. GS builds always will be a target for anyone after a easy kill.

4- Dont get this one, sorry, I do shower thu form time to time

5- Dmg&support not suppose to be in frontline, it suppose to be in a group and let your mates defend you.

/Osicat

@All

Shatter Cat Dmg & Support have been updated to be effective in the new wvwvw meta. More dmg,more burst and mightstacking. Still wery high crit dmg, better condition clearing in terms of condi uptime + the new buffed nullfield (32 sec cd in this build for clear condis on you, boons on enemys and apply blinds on enemy)

Enjoy.

Hello Osi

Is this rune :

Superior Rune of Perplexity

Suitable for your condition dmg build?

Thank you

P.S. I am your fan

@LeDiabolique, Its a viable rune, not my at first glance favorite. Alsoits lost ALOT of its usfellness with the confusion nerf. Still its al up to how many stacks they apply. If its 1 stack for 10 sec, its mehe, if its 5 stacks its woot

/Osicat

Hey Osi,
I really like all the shattercat builds and I’m going to give them a try. But I was wandering which one do you find more forgiving to a new mesmer? I was thinking of giving the heavy and the mist a try. Would you recommend these two or should I try one of your other builds?

H
:-)

Osicat.4139:

@LeDiabolique, Its a viable rune, not my at first glance favorite. Alsoits lost ALOT of its usfellness with the confusion nerf. Still its al up to how many stacks they apply. If its 1 stack for 10 sec, its mehe, if its 5 stacks its woot

/Osicat

i THINK its 3 stacks for the 4/6 part (20% chance on hit) I still think its kind of weak. 20% chance with 15second cool down, I would rather it be 50% on Crit with 20second cool down as that would mean with the right stats you could have it up nearly all the time if taking the right traits, weapons and sigils.

hey osi what would you say is the better shatter build for all things pve? srry if this was already asked 100 times :P goodjob on the builds m8 2 thumbs up .
cheers

Hitsutai.7854:

hey osi what would you say is the better shatter build for all things pve? srry if this was already asked 100 times :P goodjob on the builds m8 2 thumbs up .
cheers

Its PvE….You dont even need to take traits for PvE content (excluding Dungeons, Fractuals) Though i use a version of his Shatter 3.0 in all areas of gameplay – WvW, Fractuals, Dungeons, world events and such

@Hitsutai, Like ArmagedonAsh said, Shatter Cat Heavy 3.0 can easy do good dmg and without suffering take you thru the dungeons without be pulled by the others or die al the time. Change for a few more berzerker instead of chavaler/knight and you do even better in terms of dmg. Aslos bring a GS.

If this game like wow had DPS meters and you wanted to do higher dps then the shatter Cat Phantasm Hybrid 20-20-0-0-30 would do a little higher especialy if you bring a GS. Still its not a big difference when 3.0 start stack might.

Shatter Cat Mist 2.0 is juts more of a wvwvw roaming setup and focus on speed.

/Osicat

@All

Testing going on with runes for the condi setup. I be back with more info when I know what I think myself. Running out of experementing gold aswell so need to go and get some new. Mabye some farming brrr

Ty al for the donations aswell. Would be hard for me to keep this guide updated without the many ingame donations and ofc al the possetive and helpfull mails I get.

Sorry If I cant answer everyone in game aswell. Latley I had so many whispers and ingame mails my mailbox and chatt been cluttered and mailbox maxed out. Best way to ask a question etc is to ask in the guide. I asked arena net to give me a bigger forum mailbox but I dont think its possible with the current forum design.

/Osicat

I would be interested to find out how they work for Shatter Cat as well if you have any plans to test them. I am still using Sword/Focus and Greatsword. It works very well. I am thinking about swapping out the Might on Interrupt Trait. Currently i get 3 Stacks on all weapon swaps, as well as 3 Stacks (to allies as well) on Heal. Mirror Blade gives Might as well

On your Condition setup. Since you are built for clone sacrifice, I am a little curious why you didn’t choose endurance on weapon swap, instead of the might on swap. Does the might increase your damage more than the extra clones adding more stacks of conditions, and the extra survivability of extra dodges? I am curious how those compare, and the possible math behind it.

@Blehh, The survival in the build is fantastic so no need for more dodges of that reason. Vigeour is up almost 100% in combat so energy regain is good anyway. The condition on clone death is good, but for the build its not a core ability. for some fights they not even apply as enemy mightbe out of range of the clone so I use it as a bonus and a preasure tool

The thing most condition builds need to work for in both playstyle and stats thu is burst, burst to down the enemy who is at 30% hp and start to play defensive. Here might help ALOT. after a while of fighting your ondition dmg get higher and higher and you can with a mix of dicet and non direct dmg burst somone down.

I value this burst more than I value more survival (witch I already ahve alot of) or more preasure.

/Osicat

After messing around with the spec, no sigils, I realize that endurance runes would be overkill. You can dodge pretty much non stop. More direct damage(and extra condi) would be better than more dodges. Thanks for the new spec. Always wanted to do a clone suicide type of spec, and this works out well for it. Also, seeing you do one so well, it pushed me over the edge to finally spent the gold on new condi gear to make it work.

Osicat.4139:

@Blehh, The survival in the build is fantastic so no need for more dodges of that reason. Vigeour is up almost 100% in combat so energy regain is good anyway. The condition on clone death is good, but for the build its not a core ability. for some fights they not even apply as enemy mightbe out of range of the clone so I use it as a bonus and a preasure tool

The thing most condition builds need to work for in both playstyle and stats thu is burst, burst to down the enemy who is at 30% hp and start to play defensive. Here might help ALOT. after a while of fighting your ondition dmg get higher and higher and you can with a mix of dicet and non direct dmg burst somone down.

I value this burst more than I value more survival (witch I already ahve alot of) or more preasure.

/Osicat

I’m on board with Blehh here. Battle sigil gives 3x might = 105 condition damage. That’s about +5 hp per tick of bleeding. To me this doesn’t really provide “burst”. I’d rather take the extra dodge roll and blow up a clone. To each their own.

@Cyyrix, The 3 might is stacked up with staff clones might and potensial other sources of might. Its also not only 5 bleed / tick on bleed. Its extra dmg to burn, torment and confusion. Its also a 105 power added to your direct dmg who ofc not a mianc source but when you land a condition burst with torch flame + scepter nr 3 + with some practice a torment + block proc it get rather effective.

Still ofc, the builds I reccomend is only what I personaly think is best, its guidelines and expeted to be changed after personal playstyle and preferenses.

/Osicat

I get Might from Weapon Swap (3Might) – On both sets!
I get Might from Interrupt (5+ Might)
I get Might from Heal (3 Might) + Its AoE
I get Might from Mirror Blade( Upto 2×3stacks)

I also have taken Might duration increase runes as well and so have 55% (iirc) increased duration. So Might from Weapon swap gives me 30 seconds of Might alone

I think its great, adds nice damage and condition damage and i can hit upwards of 15+ in just 1 Vs 1 and can hit 25 stacks with ease in Zerg fights.

I have two questions Osicat.
1. Which build of yours do you use?
2. On almost all of the gear/skill/stat website thingys you have a back item that is bought with laurels. When I look at the laurel vendor, he doesn’t sell back items.
Ty

I atm play acctive in 3 builds. S C Heavy 3.0 for group 10~ runs. S C Non shatter condition build for solo/ duo roaning avd GvG, Phantasm Hybrid for instances.

/Osicat

@Ckajlooc – the ascended back is from the fractal vendor for about ….i think 1500-1700 tokens (to upgraded it to ascended), not luarels

hey Osi,

I am trying to get into solo roaming and maybe sometimes running with a d/d ele. Would the mist or the condition spec be better for me or should there be another build i should try?
:)

@Hazahampo, With current meta in wvwvw even the roaming teams strapped on more and more conditions last 4 weeks. I notice this when I run with my smal pack. As a ressult condition defense is more and more important as a roamer. Due to this I think for roaming Heavy 3.0 or Condition non shatter with staff is the optimal for you. Its opssible to use scepter/torch + sword/focus aswell if you feel you lack speed.

This is only mu opinion and recomendation, but both of the 2 listed spec is extremly durable solo/duo roaming builds with big potensial and room for improvment before you reach skill cap.

/Osicat

Hey Osi, fan of your stuff, I think your builds are very well thought out. Just to note that the info re. Heavy 3.0 in the Guide section of your website doesn’t seem to quite match up to the build that’s linked. e.g. you talk about shortened staff cooldowns (presumably X in Chaos?), but you have Bountiful Interruption VIII specced for might stacking. Also you talk about extra glamour fields, but there’s only portal in the build. Which is correct, the info or the linked build?

hi osicat,
I just leveled my mesmer to 80 and have several questions about the shatter cat heavy 3.0 build.
First question is that would it be okay to switch Rune of hoelbark to Rune of air? And switch portal for some condition removal skills like nullfield?
Second Question is that would it be okay to switch the Valkyrie to Beserker gears for more cirt?
Last question is that how do u get the back piece?

@Gurugeorge, The link is correct about the trait, sorry the text was forgotten wen update from 2.0-3.0 was taken place. The glamour fields part thu is correct for group play with I now enlighten in the guide.

Ty for point this out.

@Khoi, it ofc possible but then instead have a look at the shatter cat Mist 2.0. The heavys playstyle is based around passivly endure high preasure, if you play like I do in the vids and let ppl hit you and place condition on you without passive 60% condition remove you take alot more dmgand cc. Problem is that even with 1 condition remover mesmers have big gaps in our condition armour withc is extra obious in the current tpvp meta. With food and Holbreak this holes are alot smaller.

Backpeaces are thru fractals.

/Osicat

khoi.2841:

hi osicat,
I just leveled my mesmer to 80 and have several questions about the shatter cat heavy 3.0 build.
First question is that would it be okay to switch Rune of hoelbark to Rune of air? And switch portal for some condition removal skills like nullfield?
Second Question is that would it be okay to switch the Valkyrie to Beserker gears for more cirt?
Last question is that how do u get the back piece?

I currently run a similar build (traits, gear and Sword+Focus) i have changed the Runes to a mixture of Might buffing runes as well as swapping the staff to a Greatsword all with different sigils. So i think (personal opinion) that you could make changes, i also dont run with Portal and take Decoy, Mirror Images and Feedback instead.

Gear wise, this all depends on how squishy you think you are all ready. I personally think that they could be changed a bit, the build has a nice amount of toughness so as long as you dont lose to much that you can be burst down by a surprise attack then i think you would be okay.

The back piece i dunno, could be ascended from Laurels or from FoTM but Osicat would have to confirm that

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

khoi.2841:

hi osicat,
I just leveled my mesmer to 80 and have several questions about the shatter cat heavy 3.0 build.
First question is that would it be okay to switch Rune of hoelbark to Rune of air? And switch portal for some condition removal skills like nullfield?
Second Question is that would it be okay to switch the Valkyrie to Beserker gears for more cirt?
Last question is that how do u get the back piece?

I currently run a similar build (traits, gear and Sword+Focus) i have changed the Runes to a mixture of Might buffing runes as well as swapping the staff to a Greatsword all with different sigils. So i think (personal opinion) that you could make changes, i also dont run with Portal and take Decoy, Mirror Images and Feedback instead.

Gear wise, this all depends on how squishy you think you are all ready. I personally think that they could be changed a bit, the build has a nice amount of toughness so as long as you dont lose to much that you can be burst down by a surprise attack then i think you would be okay.

The back piece i dunno, could be ascended from Laurels or from FoTM but Osicat would have to confirm that

The backpiece is obtainable from Fractals. It takes either 1850 Fractal tokens (to buy back and upgrade to ascended) or 250 of a specific tier 6 material + 50 ectos. You can check how to obtain each backpiece from Dulfy:
http://dulfy.net/2012/11/17/gw2-ascended-gear-and-infusion-recipes/
note: you can’t obtain backpieces with laurels.

Osicat.4139:

All

Update.

New video, tweeked the condition build a little and will update the build in the guide in the comming day/s

Enjoy the ressult, Extrem condition dmg roaming build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2wMSJhC8EE

/Osicat

OSICAT Pls post the build of this video!!!!!!!! xDD

Btw dude can u post the stats and sigils for the sword / pistol u use on the video !!!

ty for all the guide / videos / Tutorials u share with the Gw2Family u rock dude.