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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Trait : You get Mirror (2 sec) on manipulation use

Does this mean you get the heal on manip use, plus the reflect?

Yes
4 seconds of reflects with one Mirror usage.

Mirror new heal for non-DE builds :p

Now they just need to fix the other manips, and you got yourself some good times.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Didn’t Bountiful Disillusionment get buffed for Boonshare, too?

Yeah, became an AoE support. Small, but noteworthy, especially if phantasms aren’t going to be shattered anymore[which might be the case, they worded things strangely].

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Posted by: Blades of Sabatine.5639

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With the IP change.. Lockdown Mesmer will overcome shatter in pvp meta. Calling it now.

Shatter with stealth with trump lockdown from what I got from this. We are almost as stealthy as a thief.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

alanis.6094

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Condi Cleanse
Distortion
CD reduction

All in one.

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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

The OP says “interrupts get buff” what’s that mean?

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Posted by: alanis.6094

alanis.6094

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Into which traitline? Hopefully just not Domination…

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alanis.6094

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Condi Cleanse
Distortion
CD reduction

All in one.

Reflect? /15char

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Into which traitline? Hopefully just not Domination…

Um… I think Dom? Don’t remember, but 80% sure it’s Domination.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Condi Cleanse
Distortion
CD reduction

All in one.

Reflect? /15char

Reflect isn’t a signet trait, but is part of a Illusion GM made up of merged shatter traits from Illusions.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

alanis.6094

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Into which traitline? Hopefully just not Domination…

Um… I think Dom? Don’t remember, but 80% sure it’s Domination.

Would be a shame, and would pretty much break Signet Conditions for me.

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

Teutos.8620

My personal take:

  • Stealth duration increase are going in the wrong direction. We will be better at annoying people with stealth!
  • possible+50% mind wrack damage: Just able to one shot squishy thieves? Fear no more, we can not one-shot everything!
  • Build diversity? Might increase, but due to deceptive evasion fighting his position with a mantra trait, mantras are definitely out of the game. Suggestion: Deceptive Evasion should become a minor trait.
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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Into which traitline? Hopefully just not Domination…

Um… I think Dom? Don’t remember, but 80% sure it’s Domination.

Would be a shame, and would pretty much break Signet Conditions for me.

How so? You get 3 full trait lines now, and they’re not connected to stats anymore. Just to clarify, if that was your concern.

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Posted by: cardsharp.7218

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I guess they really did NOT like clone on-death builds. A fairly unique playstyle of Mesmer thrown into the garbage. The other changes are fairly good, though.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

I guess they really did NOT like clone on-death builds. A fairly unique playstyle of Mesmer thrown into the garbage. The other changes are fairly good, though.

On clone death builds are so early 2014.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

alanis.6094

I missed the beginning…what was done with Signets? Is the Distortion on Signet still a trait?

All signet traits are merged.

Into which traitline? Hopefully just not Domination…

Um… I think Dom? Don’t remember, but 80% sure it’s Domination.

Would be a shame, and would pretty much break Signet Conditions for me.

How so? You get 3 full trait lines now, and they’re not connected to stats anymore. Just to clarify, if that was your concern.

Can’t give up Dueling (DE), Chaos (Staff + new Bountiful), or Illusions (Maim). I didn’t catch the Domination line, but I severely doubt it has anything worthwhile for conditions.

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Posted by: Xaylin.1860

Xaylin.1860

I guess they really did NOT like clone on-death builds. A fairly unique playstyle of Mesmer thrown into the garbage. The other changes are fairly good, though.

I was expecting it. They came up with nice condition alternatives, though.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

If they don’t like clone-death, can they please switch Confusing Combatants out for DE?

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Posted by: Blades of Sabatine.5639

Blades of Sabatine.5639

Did some take screen shut of the traits?
This will really help out.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

alanis.6094

Did some take screen shut of the traits?
This will really help out.

Being added slowly here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/33qrg0/specialization_ama_livestream_notes/

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Posted by: Zhal.8492

Zhal.8492

Did some take screen shut of the traits?
This will really help out.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bi73hapvcxc8ffv/AADZ3uw_9Z0ZJhCx0ZPK2dGga?dl=0

Didn’t get the two first minors, but I think they were the same as now.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Food for thought: Quickness is Boon. Timewarp applies Quickness. Boon Duration affects Quickness. How much can we get?

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Posted by: DavyMcB.1603

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kitten … They were not kidding about making traits more meaningful. This is a pretty massive class overhaul. I like it so far. About time, I’d say. My mesmer finally sounds more like a mesmer now.

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Posted by: ASP.8093

ASP.8093

So, wait, did I read that right: DE is now competing for space with Harmonious Mantras?

Breaking my heart.

(Where’d they put that Mirror trait?)

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Sadly, I’d have liked to be able to choose that new and shiny Mistrust trait. Diversion becomes a useful condi skill. Shame it competes with DE.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Oh, guys, when the Ready Up comes to its General Discussion piece, flood the chat with questions about whether the devs believe anyone will choose other traits over DE. Best way right now to get our concerns out there.

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Posted by: Ansau.7326

Ansau.7326

Sad cause we will be pretty much stuck to 3 builds: 6/6/6/0/0 (lockdown shatter for pvp and roaming), 0/6/6/0/6 (mtd condi shatter) and 6/0/6/6/0 (lockdown support for raiding).
Also they mix our best traits and our worst keep untouched. There is very little worth combinations in trait lines.

Anyway, awesome that IP and a lot of other things will be baseline (would be cool if someone could do a list about that). Everybody can start to lean interrupting cause it’ll be the new mesmer meta xd

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

I like the new GS trait. It sais that every time an illusion OR you hit with spatial surge the cooldown of all GS skills will decrease by 2%.
Think of 3 clones+yourself all 1.5s you perform 12 hits with spatial surge which means that every 1.5s your cooldowns will decrease by 24% -> all ~4 seconds every gs skill :o

Btw i just came up with a new way of writing builds.

A build now could be written like this:
Sw/T+Sc/P
Dueling: vvo <- down down middle
Chaos: vv^ <- down down up
Illusions:vv^ <- down down up

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

“The core specializations changes are coming before HoT, elite will come with HoT.”

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Posted by: Ballads.2509

Ballads.2509

Illusionary Invigoration missing is a Huge loss imo. I hope they add it back in as was mentioned in the stream.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Ohh yea, CS an Adept
http://i.imgur.com/IVzYWca.jpg

Ill of Vul + CS + Furios Interruption + Power Block

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Posted by: luxontime.1046

luxontime.1046

These changes are massive. All the baseline changes were things I often trait for, manip range/IP.

0/6/6/0/6 DE/PU/MtD! Fairly sure they will be nerfing us soon after this update to be honest. I was doubting the variation in builds after this when they announced it yesterday, but now I’m seeing every trait line being decent, and that isn’t even counting the specialisation.

Also, reflect on successful evade = gg rapid fire rangers

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

Did anyone else notice that power block duration went up from 10 to 15 seconds?

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

http://i.imgur.com/fIH0J9L.jpg

Condi Pistol build?

Also, hard to justify not taking DE despite cool looking GMs…

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Posted by: DavyMcB.1603

DavyMcB.1603

Did anyone else notice that power block duration went up from 10 to 15 seconds?

Power block was always supposed to ‘add’ 10 secs from 5. It’s a buff, i guess. A long due one.

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

http://i.imgur.com/fIH0J9L.jpg

Condi Pistol build?

Also, hard to justify not taking DE despite cool looking GMs…

Does anyone remember the time when skilled duelist was 100% combo finisher for confusion? what if we now get 100% crit chance and confusing combatants? there are our 8 stacks again

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Dondagora.9645

http://i.imgur.com/fIH0J9L.jpg

Condi Pistol build?

Also, hard to justify not taking DE despite cool looking GMs…

Does anyone remember the time when skilled duelist was 100% combo finisher for confusion? what if we now get 100% crit chance and confusing combatants? there are our 8 stacks again

If we land a good Magic Bullet or other CC, we can also get an easy second duelist up. Might be their push for phantasm builds. Maybe that’s their justification for putting DE in GM? That when phantasm builds open up, we won’t necessarily need DE as much?

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

Still i cannot think of any build not using dueling :/

Shatterbuilds will need it.
Condition builds will get much stronger by using it
Interruptbuilds will also take DE or HM i guess.

Maybe Support builds? But with these I think I’d use dueling, chaos and inspiration

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Posted by: cDKI.8352

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There are some really interesting things that come from the revamp that I’m excited for, most notably:
- Quickness as a boon is a MASSIVE boost to mesmers in group content with the new Illusionary Inspiration trait. Using a sword OH, you can interrupt a mob for 5s quickness that you can summon a phantasm to copy quickness over to everyone. With Signet of Illusions, you can stack 15s quickness every 30 seconds IN ADDITION TO Time Warp. Wow.
- Shatter mesmers gain a 15% damage bonus to their spike with the gm minor trait and the new shatter trait, with up to an additional 50% against inactive foes. Holy cow.
- /P got a massive buff in terms of a condition-orientated style. With the pistol master trait and the mistrust gm trait you can maintain 2 stacks of AoE confusion on clumps of people.
- Signet builds have 4 new trait slots they can play around with thanks to the trait merger. (<3)
- The rest of the inspiration line seems a little bet meh to me.

I am defiantly interested in picking up my Mesmer again, thanks for the changes!

edit: IP is now inherent to the mesmer! WOOOOO!

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

And, Inspiration: http://i.imgur.com/LwCb3lm.jpg

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

Insane Confusion stacking with 3 Wardens Dueling line OP!!

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

So is iDuelist baseline 1200 range now?

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

So is iDuelist baseline 1200 range now?

Dunno

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

So is iDuelist baseline 1200 range now?

Dunno

90% sure they did not mention that. So i guess not.

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Posted by: Noss.4105

Noss.4105

Yawn, Inspiration looks boring. Mender’s Purity is pretty neat though.

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Posted by: Ansau.7326

Ansau.7326

Confusing combatants with 3 staff clones and IE being baseline will be totally OP…

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Posted by: ASP.8093

ASP.8093

I’m a bit annoyed that some of my favorite traits are now mutually exclusive.
Deceptive Evasion and Harmonious Mantras
Halting Strike (merged with Power Block) and Greatsword Training

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

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Oh, I see some synergy. Blinding Befuddlement, while still having that horrible ICD, can proc on our Blinding Dissipation, meaning a possible 3-8 per shatter every 5 seconds. Of course, it’s competing with MtD, so…