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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

I took the time to go through the entire video segment by segment and write down every single note, including taking notes directly off of the un-finalized tooltips.

Here are the notes from the preview. I am aware there are multiple thread about the preview already, but I wanted to put all the changes into one concise list:

Traits

  • Signet of the Beastmaster has been removed. Signets now affect players by default.
  • New Trait: Predator’s Onslaught: “You and your pet deal bonus damage to enemies suffering from movement impeding conditions. Player: 10% Pet: 5%”
  • Read the Wind: In addition to its current effect, now also grants 10% increased attack speed with the longbow.
  • Strider’s Defense: Increased block chance from 15% to 20%.
  • Intimidation Training: “Activated abilities for pets cause cripple. This can only occur once on each target affected by abilities.”
  • Rending Attacks: “Pets inflict bleed when they critically hit wit their basic attacks.”
  • Stability Training: “Pets gain Stability when disabled.”

Weapons/Utilities

Longbow

  • Long Range Shot: Lowest Range damage tier gets a 17% damage increase. Medium Range gets a 7% damage increase. Longest Range is unchanged.
  • Rapid Fire: Reduced cast time to 2.5 (or 2 and 1/2) seconds.
  • Barrage: Reduced cast time by .5 (or 1/2) seconds.

Greatsword

  • Power Stab: Damage increased by 10%
  • Maul: Now hits 5 targets. Increased radius from 150 to 220.
  • Swoop: Now evades during the attack portion of the skill. Does not evade during the running portion.
  • Counterattack: Reduced aftercast to be able to follow up better after successfully landing this skill.
  • Hilt Bash: Daze and Stun durations are increased from 1 to 1.5 (or 1 and 1/2) seconds

Axe
Mainhand

  • Ricochet: Now grants might (base 3 second duration) per hit.
    Offhand
  • Path of Scars: Velocity increased by 25%

Utility/Elite

  • Sic’ Em: Reveal duration increased from 3 seconds to 6 seconds
  • Entangle: Recharge decreased from 150 seconds to 60 seconds. Duration of vines reduced from 20 seconds to 5 seconds.

Pets

  • Black Bear: Enfeebling Roar: Now delivers a strike for damage, no longer goes through evades or blocks.
  • Polar Bear: Icy Roar: Now delivers a strike for damage, no longer goes through evades or Blocks.

This should be the complete list from the preview. I personally am ecstatic.

Jroh | Former SOAC Ranger Podcaster | Platinum Division Top 100 Player
www.twitch.tv/itsJROH For stream, stream schedule, other streamers, builds, etc
https://www.youtube.com/user/JRoeboat

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

This was highly unexpected. There are so many option that come to mind with these changes. I am very excited. Only regret is that trap ranger didn’t seem to get any love. Still, so much potential diversity!

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Posted by: The Gates Assassin.9827

The Gates Assassin.9827

Entangle OP. Everything else is really cool.

Main: Raine Avina (Engineer)
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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

eh they are all pretty lackluster…only signet rangers are getting any love and they will still be slaughtered in spvp

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

Chrispy.5641

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

Who stayed entangled for longer then 5 seconds rly? Don’t think its a nerf.

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Elona Bonechill – Necro / Fionna Gymirdottier – Guard /// RoF

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

It’s a nerf and a buff. The other side of the buff is that on top of the recharge speed, traited, we now have a 48 second recharge elite that allows us to interact with the “on elite” runesets, which is a HUGE bonus.

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Posted by: snow.8097

snow.8097

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

nevertheless the skill effect never lasts so Long as in description. The vines can be destroyed fast and with condi cleanse u could get out of them.
So i think in effect it is more a buff right?

And what i throw out here is that entangle can have a cd from 48s with the Adept trait for it. Rangers will have the ability to use runes like Lyssa

Safi/Clio Del Ray |Ranger, Elonas Reach,
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the skrittfinisher was my idea!

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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets? is the buffs to the same kitten weapons they have been buffing for a about a year. No love to traps? no love to shortbow? No active stability that isnt on a huge recharge? Guess its time to hang up this silly game

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Posted by: snow.8097

snow.8097

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

It’s a nerf and a buff. The other side of the buff is that on top of the recharge speed, traited, we now have a 48 second recharge elite that allows us to interact with the “on elite” runesets, which is a HUGE bonus.

“two stupids, one thought” we german say xD

Safi/Clio Del Ray |Ranger, Elonas Reach,
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Suggestions-Gemstore-Items/page/31#post4533037
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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

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Elona Bonechill – Necro / Fionna Gymirdottier – Guard /// RoF

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

Chrispy.5641

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

nevertheless the skill effect never lasts so Long as in description. The vines can be destroyed fast and with condi cleanse u could get out of them.
So i think in effect it is more a buff right?

And what i throw out here is that entangle can have a cd from 48s with the Adept trait for it. Rangers will have the ability to use runes like Lyssa

Just wanted to throw out there that we still lost some stuff. Not everything was a shiny, “Ranger’s are God Mode!” hyper buff.

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

It’s a nerf and a buff. The other side of the buff is that on top of the recharge speed, traited, we now have a 48 second recharge elite that allows us to interact with the “on elite” runesets, which is a HUGE bonus.

“two stupids, one thought” we german say xD

Hahahaha xD I wonder how amazing Runes of the Krait are going to be with this now that we will actively be able to take advantage of the 6 tier bonus…..

Jroh | Former SOAC Ranger Podcaster | Platinum Division Top 100 Player
www.twitch.tv/itsJROH For stream, stream schedule, other streamers, builds, etc
https://www.youtube.com/user/JRoeboat

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

Ryan.9387

I’m really excited for these changes.

Ranger | Elementalist

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Posted by: Kaizok.7839

Kaizok.7839

“Entangle: Recharge decreased from 150 seconds to 60 seconds. Duration of vines reduced from 20 seconds to 5 seconds.”

I don’t think if we have 5 seconds of vines… we have always 14 seconds of “immobilize” et 14 stack of “bleed”. It will be reduced certainly.

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

This was highly unexpected. There are so many option that come to mind with these changes. I am very excited. Only regret is that trap ranger didn’t seem to get any love. Still, so much potential diversity!

Skirmishing outside of traps seems beyond reasonable repair if we are talking just in the ballpark of slight changes to the code lol. Like, traps DO still need some love, but in general, Skirmishing needs a serious looking at.

BUT, there are so many other good things that at this point, I’m just going to enjoy finally getting a lot of the stuff I’ve wanted for the class, especially with the Longbow.

It’s too bad you probably won’t get to highlight any new builds during the ToL since the patch will more the likely be after all the tournaments in August. Would have loved to watch you on stream going crazy with buffed up power builds.

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Posted by: docMed.7692

docMed.7692

These are actually some nice buffs and it should allow either glass or knights/valk builds to come into play potentially. Will have to see the rest of the balance changes though for all classes.

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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I don’t run with zergs. And I don’t like that point capture game either. So I’m pretty eager to try these out.

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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

Seriously though guys, something like this could be the new hotness:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8fjMq0wazKusQ0aABhaVA0+FS2Ww9RkvFxFbUVF-TZRAwAAOBAdeIAlLD45IA0b/BA

sun spirit, or SotW, or SoR

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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

and?

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Posted by: Lurock Turoth.9085

Lurock Turoth.9085

DUDE this is gonna make my condi evade ranger stupid op…..

Angst Hex, [FLOT] BG Havoc/Roaming
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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

and?

http://www.twitch.tv/blu42/b/547246493

http://www.twitch.tv/eurantien

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Posted by: docMed.7692

docMed.7692

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

To be fair, I don’t think anyone would place glass/power Ranger as a top meta build w/ any weapon set. That being said, still a fun build that can do fairly well when in capable hands (just like any build in this game technically).

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Posted by: Zoia.3678

Zoia.3678

Some nice changes in there. Not a lot that’s going to affect my playstyle, but that’s ok. Might on Axe #1 will be nice and I’m slightly more tempted to pick up Sic’em.
I would have loved it if they did something similar to Rampage as One as they did with Entangle. Cut the duration and halve the CD. I’m mostly using RaO for stomping when I solo roam and a shorter recast would be sweet.

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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

and?

http://www.twitch.tv/blu42/b/547246493

http://www.twitch.tv/eurantien

I watched the tourny of legends qualifier. I watched you play, it wasnt anything special
You beat a ele who couldnt play and a thief who couldnt play, was watching it with friends and even they said the ele and thief were horrible and lost it for their team. Even people in the stream chat. You won again mediocre players it doesnt prove anything?

Take your team against Apex would loooove to watch you be viable lol

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Posted by: Sumashu.4168

Sumashu.4168

I’m mostly using RaO for stomping when I solo roam and a shorter recast would be sweet.

Now we will have Signet of the wild as our official stab x)

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

Ryan.9387

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

To be fair, I don’t think anyone would place glass/power Ranger as a top meta build w/ any weapon set. That being said, still a fun build that can do fairly well when in capable hands (just like any build in this game technically).

I don’t consider them viable yet, but if these changes go through I can see them being vey scary in pvp. We will have rangers loaded up with very high ranged damage and and soft cc.

Condi is getting a minor buff, but probably will be passed over for LB/GS.

Ranger | Elementalist

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Posted by: Zoia.3678

Zoia.3678

I’m mostly using RaO for stomping when I solo roam and a shorter recast would be sweet.

Now we will have Signet of the wild as our official stab x)

Ah, you’re right! I didn’t think of that.

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Posted by: docMed.7692

docMed.7692

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

I think you’re very confused.

Eh show me a ranger being viable in spvp with longbow or gs and i might change my mind =D

Hi, My name is Eurantien.

To be fair, I don’t think anyone would place glass/power Ranger as a top meta build w/ any weapon set. That being said, still a fun build that can do fairly well when in capable hands (just like any build in this game technically).

I don’t consider them viable yet, but if these changes go through I can see them being vey scary in pvp. We will have rangers loaded up with very high ranged damage and and soft cc.

Condi is getting a minor buff, but probably will be passed over for LB/GS.

Yea, I was kind of thinking they’ll have some good options on the Carrion/Valk/Knight sets. Glass (Zerk) will still probably be pretty rough, but it should allow for some high power output builds while wearing a decently defensive trinket (I think). We’ll see.

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

Nobody ever said these were supposed to be high end balance changes anyhow. The entire list is filled with mostly quality of life changes that improve the gameplay at an immediately noticeable level.

There aren’t that many games that I play that have their metagame immediately shifted by the extremity of buffs/nerfs at high level play. What this update does for GW2 is make a weapon that was previously unusable for players a lot better, both by numerical output and by the actual feel of the combat system.

It provides players more barebones utility options, and creates more combinations of utilities and gearing. It’s all completely quality of life changes, and all of them are very good and necessary, even if they don’t change any part of the “high end metagame,” which, even though I personally enjoy and play, isn’t even played by the vast majority of the GW2 population.

I will be able to use and enjoy the longbow. That’s the first thing these changes made me think. I HATE the weapon in its current state. I don’t even enjoy having it in my inventory taking up space. It’s a horrendous weapon, just with the way it feels to play it, let alone not being lucky enough to be ignorant to the actual numerical output and how best to currently achieve it with the weapon.

The patch makes gameplay less stagnate. That is the most important part of the upcoming patch. If it doesn’t change the PvP high level meta, oh well. I personally think people should of given up hope of PvP being a truly competitive experience when they left Skyhammer in the Solo Q rotation, so my level of caring about how the changes effect top tier compositions is minimal at this point, because I’m not on a top team, and I have been boycotting Solo Q, and I can see past the toxic, tank and hold PvP metagame to know that I’ll enjoy the changes.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

kk, then delete your ranger casey. Ive spoken with you ingame, and you are one of the thousands that relentlessly paint a black picture of this class, but still miraculously keep playing it.
Now for once, stop insulting every ranger player there is and do what you tell everyone else to do instead, your negativity is not helping a darn soul. These buffs are well deserved, they are needed. Most of them have been asked for since forever, and if you fail to grasp how much this means to the average ranger player, then i can only conclude that you are playing THE WRONG GAME.

Thank you ArenaNet, Thank you for listening to our wishes!
Not just myself, but most ranger players are HAPPY about these changes.

Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

Honestly couldnt care less if these changes will be useful in top end PvP. Top end PvP is played by what, 200-500 people at most? No reason at all to balance the game around them since GW2 is not and will never be the eSport they hoped it would be.

Cufufalating – Ranger / Part-Time Mesmer
Gunnar’s Hold

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Posted by: Casey.9687

Casey.9687

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

kk, then delete your ranger casey. Ive spoken with you ingame, and you are one of the thousands that relentlessly paint a black picture of this class, but still miraculously keep playing it.
Now for once, stop insulting every ranger player there is and do what you tell everyone else to do instead, your negativity is not helping a darn soul. These buffs are well deserved, they are needed. Most of them have been asked for since forever, and if you fail to grasp how much this means to the average ranger player, then i can only conclude that you are playing THE WRONG GAME.

Thank you ArenaNet, Thank you for listening to our wishes!
Not just myself, but most ranger players are HAPPY about these changes.

and 90% of all these ranger players are bad and have no idea what they are doing in spvp. So of course they will be happy when they dont really understand its not changing much for spvp

Only the zerg runners in WvW who can beat scrub players and the pve’rs are goin to celebrate these changes

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Posted by: Killsmith.8169

Killsmith.8169

I was hoping for sword improvements or some trait consolidation, but it does look like things are headed in the right direction.

It’s a shame that the greatsword didn’t get more damage on the auto attack. Going from .65 to .75 on the third strike doesn’t seem like it will help much. At least they’re willing to go up on the damage though.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

kk, then delete your ranger casey. Ive spoken with you ingame, and you are one of the thousands that relentlessly paint a black picture of this class, but still miraculously keep playing it.
Now for once, stop insulting every ranger player there is and do what you tell everyone else to do instead, your negativity is not helping a darn soul. These buffs are well deserved, they are needed. Most of them have been asked for since forever, and if you fail to grasp how much this means to the average ranger player, then i can only conclude that you are playing THE WRONG GAME.

Thank you ArenaNet, Thank you for listening to our wishes!
Not just myself, but most ranger players are HAPPY about these changes.

and 90% of all these ranger players are bad and have no idea what they are doing in spvp. So of course they will be happy when they dont really understand its not changing much for spvp

Only the zerg runners in WvW who can beat scrub players and the pve’rs are goin to celebrate these changes

You are either:
A. On a god tier level at sPvP ranger.
B. Horribly confused.
C. Didn’t see the future changes.
D. Close minded.

It’s not A.

These are great buffs for sPvP ranger.

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Posted by: Assassin X.8573

Assassin X.8573

i mainly play warrior but ive been reading war is op and theif is op and so i had been theorycrafting the last few days to create a wvw roaming and hopefully warrior and theif killing build. So far i have had more success than anticipated.

Now this will make my ginsu ranger even more kitten.

Last night i gave my ranger build a test run celestial 04460 s/d and gs with survival utilities. Destroyed 3 wars in 1v1. realized that i had not out on any runes in my new armor set lol the put on traveler runes and went to dueling in the OS, destroyed another war. Lost to three different wars. Beat a burst guardian. Lost to a condi theif. And for my final fight was 15+min fight with a nomad troll thief in the end i lost as we both scrambled for the last hit on one another at less than 5% hp each! Im still not comfortable with the pet and wish i didnt have to be forced to have one like gw1, but what can ya do eh?

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Posted by: Sai Locke.7193

Sai Locke.7193

Most rangers have been asking for pet changes or some sort of work with the class mechanic. We did not get much of that. Instead we got what we usually get. Longbow buffs and more marksmanship stuff. I am tired of longbow stuff and things in marksmanship. It is like they are trying to buff ranger to the point where longbow is the only thing we will be good at. I am glad we got positive changes don’t get me wrong but I can’t say Casey is wrong to not get excited by the shiny distractions they throw at us. Pets (class mechanic) still needs work and is still broken. Fix my pets…. heck I will settle for just one fix… the pig family f2 and then I will join the ranger parade and dance in celebration with everyone else.

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

Honestly couldnt care less if these changes will be useful in top end PvP. Top end PvP is played by what, 200-500 people at most? No reason at all to balance the game around them since GW2 is not and will never be the eSport they hoped it would be.

200-500 is a very generous estimate lol. The people complaining about the changes not effecting how ranger plays at top end PvP don’t actually play at top end PvP.

GW1 had an interesting homage of sorts to the type of situation we have going on right now: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Please_Don%27t_Feed_the_Dwarf

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

Most rangers have been asking for pet changes or some sort of work with the class mechanic. We did not get much of that. Instead we got what we usually get. Longbow buffs and more marksmanship stuff. I am tired of longbow stuff and things in marksmanship. It is like they are trying to buff ranger to the point where longbow is the only thing we will be good at. I am glad we got positive changes don’t get me wrong but I can’t say Casey is wrong to not get excited by the shiny distractions they throw at us. Pets (class mechanic) still needs work and is still broken. Fix my pets…. heck I will settle for just one fix… the pig family f2 and then I will join the ranger parade and dance in celebration with everyone else.

I was hoping for control of another pet skill.

But, I think condi ranger got a major buff. You can build like 2/0/6/6/0 in almost anyway you want with spirits or survival skills, take either sb and sun spirit or go a/d (agony and krait) and get some really solid damage while being tankier than ever with the fact that we can take signet of stone now! That’s pretty awesome.

Not to mention, intelligence sigils + signet of the hunt on GS for BM BM burst build. That’s like 7k from a bunker with just maul.

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Posted by: Sigmoid.7082

Sigmoid.7082

Read the wind with its new power along side rapid fire actually having a short cast time..coupled with the amount of quickness we can get.

I can feel the tears

“Ranger burst from range is too high”

These changes are a huge boon to us! So many more possibilities! Especially for power builds! Dare I say it but power rangers and spike damage are a thing now. Anet said they want us to be highest range DPS and they delivered.

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Posted by: SafiMoyo.5130

SafiMoyo.5130

Oh man. If only Remorseless was in Skirmishing….

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Posted by: Teckos.1305

Teckos.1305

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

kk, then delete your ranger casey. Ive spoken with you ingame, and you are one of the thousands that relentlessly paint a black picture of this class, but still miraculously keep playing it.
Now for once, stop insulting every ranger player there is and do what you tell everyone else to do instead, your negativity is not helping a darn soul. These buffs are well deserved, they are needed. Most of them have been asked for since forever, and if you fail to grasp how much this means to the average ranger player, then i can only conclude that you are playing THE WRONG GAME.

Thank you ArenaNet, Thank you for listening to our wishes!
Not just myself, but most ranger players are HAPPY about these changes.

and 90% of all these ranger players are bad and have no idea what they are doing in spvp. So of course they will be happy when they dont really understand its not changing much for spvp

Only the zerg runners in WvW who can beat scrub players and the pve’rs are goin to celebrate these changes

You are either:
A. On a god tier level at sPvP ranger.
B. Horribly confused.
C. Didn’t see the future changes.
D. Close minded.

It’s not A.

These are great buffs for sPvP ranger.

It’s definitely not A, probably not C either.

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

jcbroe.4329

Oh man. If only Remorseless was in Skirmishing….

But we still have Moment of Clarity!

Hilt Bash, which will now be a 3 second daze/stun, with Signet of the Hunt empowered Maul, while ALSO being able to “snipe” people with Read the Wind Longbow potentially being backed by either SotW or QZ (or both on an all out offense build).

Obviously full glass and will die to the breeze, but THE NUMBERS lol. Rangers are going to start putting out their own “killshot montages,” calling it now.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Read the wind with its new power along side rapid fire actually having a short cast time..coupled with the amount of quickness we can get.

I can feel the tears

“Ranger burst from range is too high”

These changes are a huge boon to us! So many more possibilities! Especially for power builds! Dare I say it but power rangers and spike damage are a thing now. Anet said they want us to be highest range DPS and they delivered.

we’ve had the highest range DPS since a long long long time ago. Even without these buffs, i dare you find some build on some profession that can deal as much damage, as far away, as easily and reliably with as little effort as a ranger can.

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Posted by: KrisHQ.4719

KrisHQ.4719

eh they are all pretty lackluster…only signet rangers are getting any love and they will still be slaughtered in spvp

This.
These changes will affect PvE-rangers, since the amount of damage modifiers are increased.
In PvP, these changes alone won’t make the ranger available though. If especially warriors and necromancers are not nerfed, a power-based ranger will not be viable in pvp. A warrior would always be better for sustained power AND condition dmg, for bursts the thief would be better.

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

These are all phenomenal changes. Still things left to be addressed but I had thought it would take the hand of god to get them to change the stupid BM signet trait.

And hey, maybe if Ranger becomes worthless crap in spvp as you predict, we’ll get even better buffs and they won’t have to be afraid of breaking spvp with them.

Meanwhile, Ranger gets to go from persona non grata in WvW to at least tolerable and that is a lot coming from anet. Predator’s Onslaught, Sic em, Entangle, no traiting for full stone signet, and the GS buffs are a big improvement for large scale combat.

I would prefer swoop dodge the whole duration so we could just cartwheel away from a fight but…

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Posted by: Chrispy.5641

Chrispy.5641

Well after 5,022 hours on ranger and this is all ranger gets?

Rly? Apart from all these changes being pretty sweet, there are quite a number of them too. Don’t be so negative. I think this opens up some build variety. There are a lot of possibilities if you look past the longbow changes.

Yay you zerg runners will finally be able to sit in your zergs and be helpful. It doesnt change anything for spvp ranger. They will still get destroyed. This isnt anything to celebrate. Wait till all the other class buffs and changes come out and ranger will be right back in its useless spot.

kk, then delete your ranger casey. Ive spoken with you ingame, and you are one of the thousands that relentlessly paint a black picture of this class, but still miraculously keep playing it.
Now for once, stop insulting every ranger player there is and do what you tell everyone else to do instead, your negativity is not helping a darn soul. These buffs are well deserved, they are needed. Most of them have been asked for since forever, and if you fail to grasp how much this means to the average ranger player, then i can only conclude that you are playing THE WRONG GAME.

Thank you ArenaNet, Thank you for listening to our wishes!
Not just myself, but most ranger players are HAPPY about these changes.

and 90% of all these ranger players are bad and have no idea what they are doing in spvp. So of course they will be happy when they dont really understand its not changing much for spvp

Only the zerg runners in WvW who can beat scrub players and the pve’rs are goin to celebrate these changes

You are either:
A. On a god tier level at sPvP ranger.
B. Horribly confused.
C. Didn’t see the future changes.
D. Close minded.

It’s not A.

These are great buffs for sPvP ranger.

E. All of the above!