@Asrat:
The Boon Removal Effect wouldn’t be bad, as it would trigger only from bounced arrows that hit you twic,e thus it punishs only players with BAD POSITIONING that stack permanently to nearby allies. The SB Auto attack needs to become a Anti-Stackign Weapon, this is also why it has a boncung effct to hit multiple targets that stand near to each other to bring peopel to the point that they move away from each other if they want tp prevent your AA to bounce from them to their allies.
But in my opinion the bouncing damage alone isn’t punishing enough to force peopel on looking more on their positioning and stop stacking – if there would be a Boon Removal Effect from bounced arrows, this would be definetely then punishing enough for bad positioning and force people more to stop stacking.
The Short Bow is a Support Weapon in many people’s eyes, then it should also provide Group Support and Boon Stealing is one of the Thieves strongest unique gameplay benchmarks that need to get improved, because it is actually Group Support that would make the Thief Class for Groups alot more useful in Combat and for why for example one would take a thief over an Elementalist for example into the Group, cause the Elementalist cannot remove Boons and not use the stolen Bons to either buff themself with or maybe other Group Members, while weakening at the same time the foe.
Ricochet is one of the most wanted Thief Traits, that many Thief players want to see back, because it actually made especially playing with Pistols alot more fun and dangerous, especially in small places where enemy have not much space to evade attacks andwhere chances are greater, that your attacks bounce more oftenly and hit many foes.
I don’t know how long you are already playing GW2, but I play it nearly sincee Release Date to know, that this kind of trait already existed for a long time in this game, until it goe removed due to the various trait System changes over the last years.
So to suggest addign such a effect back into the game surely isn’t something “horrible”, when it already basically existed in a very similar way in the game, just without my suggested additional effects that would add greatly group support and self defense options through the increased weapon range to the thief back, so that the thief becomes finally again a viable option for defensive gameplay in WvW when fighting on a higher position than your foes.
I also dont want this weaponset to be turned into a condi set.
God in hell, please OPEN YOUR EYES, before you write nonsense like this, because the SB ALREADY IS A CONDI WEAPON with 4 of its 5 skills dealing conditions (Bleeding, Poison, Cripple, Blindness) (with shadow shot even one more, immobilize, add condition sigils to your short bow and fitting traits and you can make even more condition spam, especially when combined with the DD’s dodge condi spam that adds even more condis on top of that)
And I suggest when it is already a Condi Weapon, then Anet can turn it also directly into a true and more powerful Condit Weapon with EXPLOSIONS (FIRE!! HELLO!!! Explosions set things on fire and destroy things, so cause vulnerability due to destroyed equipment…) Bleeding is nonsense here.
We don’t shoot Shrapnel Bombs, we shoot Cluster Bombs that cause explosions of fire, not explosions of nails, glass and sharp metal shards that could cause bleedings…
Oh and the next time when you stand in a cloud of choking gas, I want to see you how you do something without getting interrupted in what you do, because of massively having to catch for your breath!!
So don’t tell me a Choking Gas not doing a small daze wouldn’t be logical.
Look at the skills from a logical viewpointt and not from a rational viewpoint, then you should realize that my suggestions try to aim at what these skills should do from a logical viewpoint by their names, their visual effects and so on and not by what and how they should work out of a rational viewpoint, because stuff like “Bleedings” would be weaker than burning and thus not so OP in your opinion maybe.
I changed Choking Gas and its effect to Torment, because the intention of Choking Gas is it to work as a Crowd Controler.
You want to force with a skill like this, that your enemy needs to reposition hisself to an other location and you want that to be a punishing move, so that the enemy needs to make a decision.. stay in the AoE and take the pulsing conditions.. or move out of the AoE and take the increased damage from Torment while moving and avoid this way eating more condition stacks over time.
The small daze from the initial hit is just there for more realism and to give Choking Gas a litte participation effect for supporting the group to bring down Break Bars from enemies to zero.
Heck, the Thief even has already a spamable daze, so what the hell are you even complaining about, when you can run any time into an offhand pistol using thief already that can spam you full with head shots that daze you.
Additionally if you would have read my suggestion more carefully, then you would have realized, that I don’t want Torment to completely replace Poison.
The Poison Effect would be still there, but with my change as passive pulsing effect that you take over time when you decide to stay in the AoE longer than 2 seconds, instead of moving out and taking the higher damage from the initial Torment you get from the initial dazing hit of CG.
Don’t make over “several seconds” such a drama, if you use Disablign Shot right now, you avoid all incoming attacks already for a felt like 2 seconds..heck you can spam it even and increase this way your evadign time as long you dont run out of initiative.
The forced backbard step is just obsolete, the skill would be simply better, if we prform the attack and auto evade manwhile over the course of the animation to the point until the attack hits over roughly the same time all incoming hits.
Removing this silly jump back effect would solve also some kind of rubberbanding issues this skill had – once and for all.
If the skill would receive a better and more smooth designed animation, that would be great.
It isn’t so as if I suggested here that you should be able to auto evade over like 5 seconds or so from one usage of this skill all incoming hits, thats not what I meant by “several”. With it I meant a range between maximum 2-3 seconds in regard of how long the changed skill animation might take, but rather 2 than 3.
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Wasting dodges just to activate traps is not good thief design, Thieves need to negate traps without that you are forced to waste your Dodges for that.
They need to receive a trait, that enables them to detect and deactivate traps, without that you need to waste dodge rolls for that.
Remember GW1, even there we were able to deactivate traps without having to make stupid dodge rolls over them just by pressing a button to deativate them when standign nearby after having detected them first.
A Thief should be able to swiftly and elegantly run over detected traps, without that he activates them, so that this skilled thief can negate the drap by pressing the pop up button when standign in near of a trao, so that they can remove the trap effect from the field so that nearby allies can’t get damage from them anymore.
I don’t get it, why people always want to have such pointless and super uncomfortable mechanics as solutions, when there exist better and more comfortable solutions that don’t force you to waste something that you need rather for combat to survive in melee battles, especially when these more comfortable solutions would fit much bette to the theme and style of the whole class of being the expert trap disabler.
There is no other class, except maybe the ranger, which should be an expert in removing traps from the battlefields. Both classes, but especially the Thief as infiltrator and treasure hunter should be this games most effective trap remover, without having to use uncomfortable ways like making wasted dodge rolls over traps.
Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside
