Guild Wars 2

All this talk about HB. That’s great!

HB, I want some more. I’m ready to dance so long as I can get in and Lotd isn’t used as bait. Let’s keep up the good fights.

russia.9057:

Superior tactics
http://youtu.be/Kd0UJItXkrM

I love the angle you recorded of me. I especially look nice standing in all black between the four Ballistas.

However, I am mortally offended that you shot a Unicorn with a Rainbow out of it’s butt at me. That is unacceptable.

I once used the log trap in Obsidian Sanctum… I also had it guarded with 3 Arrow Carts, 1 Ballista, and a Treb pointed at Spawn.

Was the best time I’ve ever had in there.

Here’s what happened

I had a blast in EB. IDOL and TL did work again, this time, more efficiently.

Stenia.9623:

Besides the small forces you guys had taking rogues quarry there have been little to no Skirmish swords up north or south west into JQ territory.

I have always been one to deny the 2v1 attitude servers put out always said it never happened but when its ongoing for hours that they clearly avoid each other it begins to change my mind on it

good to see you deleted your post Arctix

I never deleted any post. You can thank the forum Mods for that one. Not even a message as to why they deleted it.

Our “full force” is not there, find something else to complain about. We’re doing everything we can to defend ourselves, and doing a kitten good job at that. Nobody is double teaming you.

Stenia.9623:

So it all started off great everyone pushing everyone, second SBI took SM for the 3 hours after that its been 2v1 I rated IoJ higher than this guess that was a mistake. This only counts for those in EB, not going after those in borders

Server X takes SM and complains about a double team.

Are you kidding me man? What’d you expect IoJ to do, get down and let you thrust? Not going to happen. This is a fight, and in EBG we will do what we can do prove our dominance. Great night so far, I applaud all servers and Commanders associated.

-IoJ EBG Commander Arctx.

“This entire thread needs to be spoken in the 3rd person”, Arctix said swiftly.

lol TheFug I think you need a hug.

EB was amazing tonight. Good times taking ET’s stuff all night in Eternal Battlegrounds.

TheFug.5278:

Not hard for IOJ to dominate when we have outmanned in all borderlands and they are running with 45+ zergs.

This made me laugh a little.

Because the outmanned buff only inspires people to pve. Also our 45+ zergs are clearly fictional elves that run magical fireworks with the sole intent of crashing servers. Didn’t you get the memo?

Also, my sparkler burnt my finger while we were ninjaing Aldon’s from ET throught EB.

Heh. I think we did just fine at the beginning. Defending against both CD and ET, that’s just something we can’t do. Nice job IoJ really great effort

Adaneshade.2409:

We actually have several good commanders on IoJ……several bad ones as well. The best seem to primarily be in EB at this point while the others play in borderlands…..

I look more at the guilds the commander’s represent than their names though, [AoJ], [RvR], [BP], (and several others that I can’t think of off the top of my head) which have commanders that are strategically minded.

I’ve been running most of EB. I don’t yet have a Commander’s tome yet, but I do my best by communicating in /team and /map to those who are in the BG. We’ve been doing some pretty fun and interesting things this week. I’m saving up for the tome though, to make things go a little more smooth. I’ve been using Caps as an alternative lol.

We on IoJ also have a few other good Commanders (Isarien, Nomnomnomnom, Fact or whatever his name is, etc.) that log on and I work very well with them. We’re usually good at micro managing groups to do other tasks for certain tactics, etc. IoJ really does have a wonderful community. I’m glad Junglizm finally talked me into transferring my guild there.

Also don’t mind the sig, I’ll update it soon.

Dear ArenaNet,

Can you give us an update as to how soon you’re going to fix this issue? You’re making it literally impossible to control maps…and you’re going to lose more players. How can you let something this bad go live?

We’re (IDOL) Have gone pink as well.

Sorry I haven’t updated it. I’m on Isle of Janthir now. All of us have transferred over.

We’re still trying to push hard in EB

EB Champs! We’re still working on it, good fighting going on.

SBI are Jelly haters, when HoD and TA / PRX ran the train on JQ, they hopped on that bandwagon. When they lose, you see it even more. SBI alone isn’t anything impressive.

Nice job JQ! We just transferred off of JQ to IoJ because of queue times, but kitten that is a nice site to see.

That’s totally sick.

Isle of Janthir is looking for more NA people. We could totally use it, we’re moving up strong.

It was fun leading the EB battles against ET. Since we recently transferred from JQ to IoJ, I think sooner or later we’ll be able to bump us up to T1. We need more North Americans. IDOL is a North American guild, and we literally just got here. One step at a time. Was fun ET. Get used to seeing us. =)

That’s so weird because when I killed people like that in the Jumping Puzzle, I looted a Badge of Honor.

Arenanet,

When the heck are you going to fix the zoning issue with the Jumping Puzzle in Eternal Battlegrounds? It randomly bugs and freezes on the loading screen, causing you to have to restart the client and getting kicked out of EB…forcing you to wait in queue again. Give us a timer on Disconnects / came crashes so we don’t have to wait in queue for 3-4 hours because of a problem that is out of our control.

Do you even recognize it as a bug? It’s very aggravating, especially after waiting so long in queue.

Arenanet,

When the heck are you going to fix the zoning issue with the Jumping Puzzle in Eternal Battlegrounds? It randomly bugs and freezes on the loading screen, causing you to have to restart the client and getting kicked out of EB…forcing you to wait in queue again.

Do you even recognize it as a bug? It’s very aggravating, especially after waiting so long in queue.

Arenanet,

When the heck are you going to fix the zoning issue with the Jumping Puzzle in Eternal Battlegrounds? It randomly bugs and freezes on the loading screen, causing you to have to restart the client and getting kicked out of EB…forcing you to wait in queue again.

Do you even recognize it as a bug? It’s very aggravating, especially after waiting so long in queue.

Are you honestly trying to compare you guys to JQ? I mean CD is trying to ally with you to take us on I think you’re missing the point. The entire match JQ has been in the lead, and now sweeping. Fancy bit of math you having going there, but not only do the numbers not lie, neither does the score.

At the end of the day, you’re getting slaughtered and should probably take this guy’s advice.

We’ll see. Aside from being good in WvW, we are excellent at camping Obsidian Sanctum.

During the HoD / SBI match I think we had 3 arrow carts, 2 ballistas, and a treb guarding the entrance. We had to make fun somewhere while both SBI and HoD’s zerg were on our side in EB and we did. It was amazing. I welcome other servers to go against, the small group pvp is really great. I wish ArenaNet had some way of attributing points for domination in pvp in Obsidian Sanctum.

@Eurlin – You obviously can’t read numbers very well. Taking keeps in the morning and night doesn’t make that number go so high. Also in Tier 1, we were getting rolled by both servers at the same time. It was a longstanding argument here on the forums, but as most losers do joining the bandwagon is a week and a half late. I too welcome your alliance. Also it’s not that I’m full of myself, it’s that I let the numbers do the talking. I meant what I said about having a challenge. What hardship have you guys faced before JQ? Take this as positive experience so you can be better. It’s okay =)

Eurlin.4256:

Arctix.1758:

It’s obvious DB doesn’t need any help…exploits included. Seems like we’ve taken care of this matchup.

I don’t know why you’re proud of a 2PM fight again a door

Lol…you think that it’s just because of the time? Look at the score man are you blind? Both of you guys are being dominated right now, I’m proud of a lot of things. This must be the first time either servers have gone against any server with skill. Before you get your panties in a bunch let me explain what I mean by that: Our last match up was against HoD and SBI. Even though the only reason they knocked us down was because of the constant double teaming, they still possessed a higher quality of skill in terms of actual pvp confrontation (not just sieging). Inside Obsidian Sanctum (The Puzzle in EB) the fights were way more fierce against each other. Right now against CD and DB the fights are a breeze.

I think even though you guys are getting dominated, that exposure to a higher skill set is good so that you guys can each improve with experience and destroy the next tier you face.

It’s obvious DB doesn’t need any help…exploits included. Seems like we’ve taken care of this matchup.

All of you who are complaining about Griefing in Obsidian Sanctum are either unaware that there are Mystical Fountains that let you go invisible to complete the puzzle, or are aware of it, however lack the required mental capacity to use it correctly.

There is nothing wrong with pvping in OS. In fact it adds an element to wvw that I was afraid it would lack, small group pvp (or small man if you’ve played daoc). It’s nice to not have deal with the zergs from each server in such a small area, and it’s even more fun to see the different strategies from the players camping there. ArenaNet did put traps in the puzzle for a reason..to make the opposition pull their hair out attempting to complete it.

For example, The Log trap that knocks people off the small platform at the beginning— I’ve never seen so many people fail at getting across while someone else is controlling the trap. It’s like watching a bunch of lemmings. It’s not the trap controller’s fault or ArenaNet’s fault that players don’t know how to make use of a stability buff to conquer that.

The siege equipment is another thing. It’s absolutely brilliant. Seeing different combinations of attacks, realms created choke points, etc. It’s an amazing aspect from both the attacker’s viewpoint and the victim’s viewpoint. There are Mystical fountains in all the key locations to get through and solve the puzzle. Each one gives you a buff for 4 minutes that let’s you travel undetected. The only way possible for actual puzzle griefing that would counter that, is contant, non-stop aoe on a chokepoint required for advancing that would pop someone out of the stealth. Other than that the puzzle is 100% completable WITH people camping / sieging / trap-controlling.

My advice for players that are complaining: Learn your characters abilities, swap them out just for Obsidian Sanctum if you need to. Search for the Mystic Fountains and learn where and how far you can get with the buff. Most of all, stop complaining that you can’t compete in a small area that has measures to assist you in completing. The puzzle is long and difficult. It’s meant to be “hard”, and it’s an amazing addition to the most common wvw area.

All I hear out of this entire thread, is a bunch of people complaining about camping. It was intended to be that way, so stop. If you can’t handle the competition inside a small area, don’t queue for EB. It’s as simple as that.

Think about all the traps to control, the choke points, the mystic fountains, etc. Anet has put in counter measures for real camping inside the Puzzle Zone. It’s supposed to absolutely aggravating. Think about the fact that there are 3 cages full of animals controlled by a user operated chain in a small choke point.

The reward of the puzzle is great, but it’s supposed to be a challenge to get there. This game wasn’t intended to be a hand holding role playing adventure, otherwise there would be server rule sets associated with that style of play. Griefing, camping, building siege equipment, even having a 5 man camp the entrance are all part of the puzzle, and an amazing addition at that. It’s nice to know that in such a massive game, that Anet considered that people may want to “small man” or have 1v1, 1v2, 2v2, etc.

My point is, stop trying to speculate on your frustration of how to complete the camping in the Puzzle zone. There are ways to get past every single section of camping / traps / obstacles. I think there’s what, three Mystic Fountains all in separate locations? Learn how to get around it, and play the game. No matter how frustrating it is.

Arasuki.6094:

its refreshing to see QQ posts from the lower brackets

I see what you did there. Another scrub SBI player trying to knock JQ. Yeah, technically it may a lower bracket, but we’ll get back up there and at some point figure out how do handle the dp from you and HoD.

Btw do you guys at least hand you HoD a towel when you’re done..or make breakfast in bed for them?

Yep Same thing to all of us

FrizzFreston.5290:

Ehhh lol? xD
It’s was more a notion that your oh so awesome server’s focus is a bit off there. =P Tactics? Wut? Siege that puzzle! OMg we’re losing? How could that be? They must be working together, starts internet rumour of HoD and SBI working together.

That’s pretty much my view on it. It’s fun all this drama, but it just shows to me there’s little else you can do about HoD winning. Guilds or no.

Also I go in there specifically because it’s funny, if I actually want to get anywhere I would just give up and play the battles and capture 1 or 2 supply camps with 2-3 people. :P Or the ogres. (Guerilla tactics ftw)

Yep. You don’t get it. First of all I didn’t start this thread, Secondly when I posted about doing small pvp in the puzzle, we were leading occupancy on the map.kitten I know it’s a tough concept for you to understand, but riding the coattails of the guilds that run your server isn’t a “tactic”

Just because I post on here now doesn’t mean I’m playing atm..at work. lol

@FrizzFreston – Are you trying to be dumb? I only go to the puzzle late at night for small group pvp. A concept I’m sure you don’t know about. You must be someone I was trolling down there.. hmm.

Syphen.1980:

Arctix.1758:

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, HoD isn’t good. The guilds on HoD are good. See what happens when they log off? SBI and JQ lack that same coordination. Although when given the opportunity of not being attacked by both sides, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see who comes out on top.

Whew, for all that complaining about JQ’s issues, you SBI people sure do talk alot of empty garbage. Fact is… SBI, you alone, aren’t that good considering the bracket we’re in. The points themselves don’t mean anything, it’s always going to be a toss up between first and third and who’s pushing who.

If some of the guilds on HOD are good and those are the guilds that are in WvW all the time guess what???? HOD is good. I fail to see why you guys can’t suck it up and quit QQing. Again I haven’t ever seen a server cry so much and boast how good they are, and they would be top server but poor them is getting picked on by everyone.

And you know for sucking completely SBI isn’t doing to bad with a 20k point lead on you. But thats obviously only because henge is helping us and only attacking you. Some time slots suck others are great. So you are top in points during the day, great pat yourself on the back as we have very little people in WvW during that time. However during prime time when we are ahead of you 85% of the time we have 45 minute queues.

Here is what you guys need to do seriously. Coordinate it if you have to but make sure you come in third next matchup in a few days. Hell take a week off of WvW if that is what it takes. Drop down to the 7,8,9th bracket and you can happily steamroll again for two weeks and strut around about how awesome you are for facerolling the map.

Either that or start one of these threads every time we are matched against you so we can at least get entertainment during the match because fighting you guys sure doesn’t provide any.

Obviously, you still don’t understand the fundamentals of wvw / frontier (ala daoc). The only reason SBI has anything on us, is because HoD is always pushing into JQ. I’ve yet to see a strong push from HoD to SBI. Secondly, I say that it’s the guilds, because if either Titan Alliance or the daoc guild PRX ever transferred off, the server that they would transfer to would be just as good, because as a guild they’re more organized. HoD’s stragglers aren’t good, which is why when the main guilds that run the wvw log off, they get owned.

Give me an EB situation where the circumstances are different, and JQ doesn’t have HoD and SBI in their area at the same time, and the two (HoD and SBI are fighting) where JQ is terrible? In fact, tell me a solitary time in EB since this match up, where either of the two wasn’t pushing in JQ and instead on each other where JQ was rolled? This isn’t QQing, these are facts, and I’ll stand corrected if you show me a situation in EB otherwise. Until then, stop being trolled by JQ’s “third place” lead while we’re fighting off both servers.

Keldrath.4735:

Arctix.1758:

Lmao. You guys crack me up. For one, when I’m not pulling and raging in /team to get stuff done, I go down there and either camp late at night, or farm the small groups in there. With and without my own siege equipment. I think it’s hilarious.

Also SBI is really one to talk considering 9 times out of 10 they have an arrow cart at spawn that does nothing at all.

Here’s a screenie from tonight, while camping / farming small groups after the puzzle was done, and we had more resources than either of you. Quit crying about sucking at small pvp / world pvp and do something about it. In the puzzle HoD can’t save you. Outside..they can.

…lol truce..lmao so sad.

Also you HoD Female Thief from the [SoA] tag. You are freaking amazing. Stop killing 5-10 JQ and SBI at once. You’re making it hard to play with two hands.

People are still crying on your server in chat about an alliance? Hell I was there, SBI was hammering us on the southeast, i was fighting them all night in there and trebbing durios. We finally were about to break in and take it with a few people and a large number of JQ came in to save the day.

………… That “alliance” accusation from your server is making you all look bad. SBI has been way more of a threat and bother to us than JQ has.

Yeah they’re going to complain. In EB JQ constantly fights off HoD and SBI zergs in our side of the map. The two never attack each other, and they rage about it, instead of do something about it, I agree. What happens outside of EB, I can’t really say, I’m not out there.

I found it funny actually, if they would have bothered to look at the stats and see we had more resources than HoD and SBI at the time because the good guilds on HoD logged off, maybe they wouldn’t have said that, who knows?

About the camping in the Puzzle area though, I swear, pvping there is the most fun I’ve had since daoc small man / Mordred. Nothing beats seeing someone walk by and get knocked off over, and over, and over, and over again by a swinging tree, backed up by two arrow carts, a ballista, and a treb…that was priceless.

Lmao. You guys crack me up. For one, when I’m not pulling and raging in /team to get stuff done, I go down there and either camp late at night, or farm the small groups in there. With and without my own siege equipment. I think it’s hilarious.

Also SBI is really one to talk considering 9 times out of 10 they have an arrow cart at spawn that does nothing at all.

Here’s a screenie from tonight, while camping / farming small groups after the puzzle was done, and we had more resources than either of you. Quit crying about sucking at small pvp / world pvp and do something about it. In the puzzle HoD can’t save you. Outside..they can.

…lol truce..lmao so sad.

Also you HoD Female Thief from the [SoA] tag. You are freaking amazing. Stop killing 5-10 JQ and SBI at once. You’re making it hard to play with two hands.

Whew, for all that complaining about JQ’s issues, you SBI people sure do talk alot of empty garbage. Fact is… SBI, you alone, aren’t that good considering the bracket we’re in. The points themselves don’t mean anything, it’s always going to be a toss up between first and third and who’s pushing who. The random few that post here are so easy to hop on and chime in. Funny how quick you SBI people are to call JQ people whiners, and ride that bandwagon. You say that when we push to Umber, you’re able to push all the way back near our overlook? Where’s the Henge zerg on your other keeps/towers? Oh that’s right…you don’t have that issue. What you’re trying to say is that while Henge is pushing us near Mendon’s we’re still taking our stuff back from you, pushing them out, and rushing back to defend against your push again and end up taking your supply camp near Durious? Happens every night. At least HoD is able to hold the Mendon’s / Anz for longer then 10 minutes, even with both zergs on our turf. You guys just run to Durious and hope HoD pushes hard.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, HoD isn’t good. The guilds on HoD are good. See what happens when they log off? SBI and JQ lack that same coordination. Although when given the opportunity of not being attacked by both sides, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see who comes out on top.

Also, lol @ /team. Silly JQians. ..and yes. I do the puzzle for those Badges.

tluv.5821:

Lofty.8759:

emoleas.4309:

I’ll say this once more:

JQ relentlessly attacks SBI umberglade camps and bravost/durios without leaving defenses in their northwest side.

HoD sees this opportunity to attack Anzalias/Mendons and proceeds to do so. While their towers are being attacked, JQ REFUSES to back out of SBI territory to defend their own, so after quelling the JQ invasion, SBI now sees an opportunity to attack while they defend Anzalia’s. SO WE PUSH.

On the flipside, when we attack Ogrewatch with a large force, more often than not our southern towers will get sieged by HoD. However, we (oftentimes) have the sense to leave scouts and defenders. If the force is large enough, SBI FORCES ACTUALLY PULL OUT AND MOUNT A PROPER DEFENSE. HoD forces see taking QL just won’t happen, and back out.

HoD are great opportunists. Show them you won’t make their siege easy, and they’ll back out.

JQ has crap tactics and doesn’t know how to properly defend or attack. They make themselves a target by being bad defenders.

Kinda this, i’m on HoD EB mostly and from what i can tell this is what’s happening. By the time we push into overlook they realize what we’ve taken in their territory and they pull back. We try to hold out untill the timer ticks the next round of PP, then let JQ have the towers.

On the other hand SBI doesn’t really make a large push at all in any of our lands, except maybe golanta every so often. Very strange.

We have tried making pushes, but honestly we are trying to dig in right now. We might make small attempts at supply camps or towers to show we are actually still alive, but we are trying to gather our resources.

What HoD is doing is smart. Taking camps RIGHT BEFORE the timer tick ends. Get more points. Very smart. sneaky, but smart.

JQ, you guys are just easy prey. More than once, especially in the open field, we destroy you in PvP combat. Not numbers wise either. Honestly, SBI is still disorganized, and I will admit that. Not enough people dedicated the WvW yet, and it bothers me.

No. SBI is a joke when it comes to pvp. You must be dreaming. Like I said, the ONLY time, JQ has to lay off SBI is when we’re getting reamed by HoD while we’re focusing on you, which happens most of the time. SBI is not good in pvp compared to JQ. You’re only benefit, and the ONLY reason SBI is number two atm, is because we’re dealing with HoD at the same time as being close to you in numbers.

EDIT: Actually, you guys aren’t bad at zerging the Jump Puzzle…lol..

Yes SYN.

I mean don’t get me wrong. I like seeing other DAoC guilds tearing stuff up. It’s not that JQ has an issue with HoD, or that SBI (lol) is an issue alone, it’s that it’s going to take some server restructuring and more cooperation form within JQ to get anything done. Most of the people don’t listen to /team or /map. It’s our attentiveness that adds to the problem. Like I said earlier, I’ve seen it where literally we’re getting whoever is paying attention to the general chat to focus on a keep / tower, and we’ll pass a fairly large group doing their own thing at some random tower that lacks any advantage to defending our own structures…and don’t get me started with people claiming keeps and not upgrading them..it’s frustrating.

Oh and randomly attacking SM while we have both zergs near our overlook in EB..lol. I’m not denying JQ has their fair share of problems, we do.. but we’re not bad considering with those problems we’re getting attacked from both servers and holding our own.

You HoD people can claim whatever you’d like, but in EB, when your zerg and SBI’s zerg is on either side of our overlook, and we can’t just take one side back because we’re up against two zergs, well actions speak louder.

It’s funny, you never see HoD taking over SBI or SBI pushing into HoD. SBI alone usually gets rolled by JQ. In fact I can’t remember a single push in EB where JQ didn’t have to stop because HoD was too busy taking our towers and keeps. Weather it be an alliance, or the just the simple fact that you both just want to eliminate JQ, it’s sad. Even with HoD’s SM, they’re not that good. They should be able to steam roll through our towers and keeps, considering we have SBI’s zerg to deal with on top of them attacking.

I love how easy it is for you band wagoners from HoD to say that all JQ does is cry when the only reason your server has ANY points is because of Titan Alliance and PRX / SIN running your entire server.

If ET has major wvw guilds like HoD I’m sure they would steamroll SBI because they’re not that great. It could go either way. So let me be clear, it’s not that HoD is good, its that the three guilds that run your zergs are good / organized. SBI doesn’t have anything credible and before you go bashing JQ, remember we’re not that far behind for holding both of your zergs non stop.

Syphen.1980:

we never denied focusing JQ we denied the stupid allegations of an alliance to do it on purpose. JQ is fun to attack because points taken from them last longer as they tend to either 1. try to zerg it back leaving other stuff undefended or 2. go cry to mommy and take their toys and go home.

I was on SBI borderlands last night at Dawns and it was oh so funny watching you guys throw yourselves at the seige at dawns while henge tried to ninja garrison through the water entrance. and we took the tower on the other side of garrison from you and laughed while we hit garrison from both sides :-D

Henge thinks smart and playes good. JQ just zergs the hell out of everything and thinks they are the bestest thing ever.

I think it’s funny how you think JQ zergs. Henge is like 70% under one guild. It’s either PRX or SYS. The rest are a handful and usually get rolled most of the time. Henge is going to have good coordination if it’s under the same guild.

I agree, voice chat is important. JQ has a TS server that not everyone uses. I think they should..maybe coordinate an offensive instead of spread out and do their own thing. Most of the time when roaming, I’ll find a handful of JQ attacking a tower/keep and not a mention of it in /team or /map. The communication is off, and that’s our only problem.

ArenaNet, please fix the zone in issue when loading into the Puzzle from Eternal Battlegrounds.

Having it lock up, being forced to restart the GW2, client, and being forced to face the queue a second time is terrible.

Thanks.

I think it’s funny that Henge and Stormbluff players deny focusing on JQ.

Weather you guys are working together, or just happen to ironically attack JQ instead of each other, especially when it comes to taking keeps and towers in Eternal Battlegrounds, it’s lame.

I literally could run from either side of our overlook and find the Henge zerg, or the SB zerg…but ironically neither were taking any of the keeps.

and HoD is nothing without PRX, when you have so many members following on direction you’re going to have an advantage. Anyone who’s played NF in DAoC knows that.

Green= Henge
Blue= Stormbluff
Red = JQ