Guild Wars 2

it would be good if it unlocked that ES for all of the same class. wouldnt really do anything other than make it easier to ahve 2 different races of the same class.

Gilburt.9146:

Zabrios.6079:

No.

/15charsblabla

Thanks for your waste of space post. Don’t bother next time.

IndigoSundown.5419:

You were having a lot of fun doing Hero Challenges, getting satisfaction from finding them and completing them. How is that gone? Could it be that the activity itself was not fun, just the reward?

Yeah, they should just remove all rewards from everything, because rewards aren’t satisfying at all. Rewards/achievements aren’t satisfying at all. We should just start with everything unlocked. Would not ruin the game at all… I said the satisfaction of seeking them out was gone, not that the game-play wasn’t fun.

Celtic Lady.3729:

When I consider alts, I’m very glad for the change. I’d also like to have the spec sooner for playing with in the jungle. Besides, they’re not going to put it back the way it was.

There are better ways to cater to people with alts than to make everything faceroll easy and effortless. E.G. It’s easier for people who have played the game for a while to level alts due to Tomes of Knowledge, etc.

nearlight.3064:

As a pvper whose forcing myself to glide off cliffs and die from gliding latency to get my tempest shoulder skin, I polietely disagree.. some people don’t have the time to grind for masteries to get mastery gated hero points, nor the pve skills to solo champions.

I don’t have time to PvP, I should just get all PvP exclusive skins handed to me.

Skins dont affect how your character feels or plays, specs do.

Koomaster.9176:

Without knowing the exact HP you’re talking about, you do realize deep in the gliding trait line you can glide in stealth. Maybe Anet set that specific HP up to take advantage of that trait?

Which is a massive problem in itself. having to grind insane amounts of boring events to be able to earn the skill points.

Khristophoros.7194:

1) You don’t need your elite spec to play through HoT.

Why should I have to play through it with my old builds that I’m bored of?

2) It’s an elite spec – it shouldn’t be cheap by its nature.

Calling something “elite” doesn’t change anything. If that were the case it would be stronger than the base specializations, but it’s not meant to be. It’s meant to be balanced.

3) It incentivizes map completion and/or WvW participation.

I don’t want to be incentivized to do stuff. It’s my choice what I do. I’m tired of game devs telling me what to do. There’s a time and place for incentivization. It’s called PvP. You have to incentivize interactive gameplay in PvP. In PvE the player should be free to do whatever they feel like doing.

4) You don’t need the entire line unlocked for it to be used (or even useful).

It feels bad to go around with an incomplete build.

5) Keeping them character bound keeps it in line with non-elite specs.

They are in line with non-elite specs by nature of being balanced. You can still play builds without them and not be at a disadvantage.

Remember when they said GW2 would be play how you want when you want? i guess if you want to play with your new trait line you have to grind you kitten off even though they have allways been anti grinding.

ive quit the game untill either masteries or the elite spec get changed/fixed

masteries are a way to artificialy gate content, and punish you for exploring without them, the events are boring and awful and you have to grind them to get enough xp to do anything. ive quit from the game untill it changes.

Decado.9304:

mgee.9263:

It seems that people expected everything to be handed to them on a plate and because they cant max out everything in a matter of hours are taking exception to it and complaining it.

Again like many others you make a statement without reading the complaints.

I don’t need to be given them instantly but do need a way of achieving the specs – which I bought this game for – in a reasonable time frame.

There are other game modes than pve and people who don’t pve have massive amounts of playtime and virtually no hps and the projected time to unlock them across multiple toons is beyond ridiculous.

they have totaly done a 180 on their no grind philosophy with the mastery system and hero point system. its sad to see..

Pino.5209:

Would have probably finish mapping Verdant Brink in an hour if it wasn’t for mastery XD.
Sugar coat all you want Anet “we don’t believe in attunement”, it’s very grindy lol. Same kinda of crap.

I would rather have attunements than grinds…. atleast an attunement i only have to do once and its usually Some sort of content in and of itself not the same old.

DEFEND THIS POINT FROM THE UNDEAD I MEAN MORDREMOTH!

masteries are such bull kitten. i would probably be enjoying the new zones if they didnt exist instead im not even playing due to how infuriating it is.

I spent 30 mins getting to a hero point on a map, only to be told LOL kitten you you dont have the right mastery.

Such great rewards for exploring! being told i have to Grind to be able to claim the reward that i spent getting to…..

Yup been like that for a while. i dont think they care to be honest.

MashMash.1645:

logan.5846:

Agreed. The new zones are such a chore to navigate I don’t feel like playing anymore. I can appreciate how much work went into creating them, but locking everything behind masteries that will take millions of xp was about the worst decision they could possibly make.

They’ll realize this when 50% of players leave in a few weeks.

ive allready stopped… what was the worse was finding a way to a skill point, and being told i dont have the right mastery to earn it

even though i spent 30 mins getting to the kittening place.

This is the reward for exploring in the new maps. Frustration followed by disappointment and lack of reward.

Hot is a massive let down with a huge grind wall.

Cactus Brawler.7415:

Oh so fun to glide down and find a Hero challenge only to be told it requires a mastery that isn’t even unlock able until you visit the last map ¬_¬

i think we found the same point lol. took me ages to find a way down, and then was NOPE…

What a waste of kittening time.

Khristophoros.7194:

misterman.1530:

Khristophoros.7194:

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Sorry, everyone is just spoiled. You’re use to insta leveling a bunch of toons without any work required. Now that you cant tome or EoTM your way to something, you’re mad.

It’s not even that much work. Once you get all your masteries an reach the hero points you need, it’s pretty much a breeze with the rest of your characters.

Because you have 20+ alts with 3% map completion each, isn’t a reason for anet to lower the required hero points.

I can’t even GET the hero points if I’m being totally honest. It’s too hard. Am I supposed to be able to solo a champion frog assassin thing with 2 adds? Actually I almost did but then I fell through hole in the floor.

I managed to 2 man another champion hero point challenge because I was lucky that somebody else even showed up. And it was only 10 of the 25 points needed for the next skill… a skill I’m not even planning to use but I need to unlock anyway.

This is sadistic.

It’s funny. People are saying that the crappy WvW maps are empty because everyone is in PvE. Yet, people in the new PvE map are saying that they have to try and solo things or hope someone shows up. So, if the PvE maps are empty-ish and the WvW maps are definitely empty…where is everyone? PvP?

There are people but they are unlikely to find their way up to the champion hero point challenges up on the canopy at the same time as other players. And they are unlikely to sit there and wait for somebody else to show up. And I doubt most of them are skilled enough or have a strong enough character to 2-3 man it.

The map screams Explore and do things, but the mobs and challenges scream get a group. its awful design really.

Selkirk.4218:

i don’t know why anet thought combining jumping puzzles with powerful trash mobs (hey i finally got that blue i wanted after a 3 minute fight ^^;) was a good idea.

the maps lack any sort of charm..there is no pleasure in exploring these tiny trails that lead to deadends and roadblocks-and fighting these mobs at every twist and turn is just lame.

after 20 minutes i feel so depressed i just log out and never want to go back-how is it possible they made content this lackluster and uninspired?

No idea but they have certainly managed it. spent 30 mins trying to get to an SP only to find out i cant unlock it because i dont have the mastery. Such great rewards for exploring.

Spent 30 mins trying to get to a SP only to find out i couldnt unlock it when i got there, such great rewards fro exploring….

Cactus Brawler.7415:

Requires 40 new hero challenges to complete, several of which require masteries that require as much EXP to unlock as leveling to 80 several times over.

Yeah, that is grind.

This… so much this…

Sonrangeri.7645:

Avlaen.7241:

400 points is insane, especialy when alot of them are locked behind stupid mastery grind walls to even be able to navigate the map and claim the SP

Well, and then when you finally manage to get into Challenge point itself, you cannot solo it, due it being guarded or activating challenge gives you a champion mob to deal with. (ofc, that champion will one-shot you, and summon adds etc. who will weaken/cripple/bleed/torment etc.) you.

Yup…. i once found my way to a rather obscure point and it summoned a champion and 2 veterans…. so i waited there for 15 mins annnnd no one else arrived. it took me ages to get to the point, so do i jsut abandon it because no one else is able to find it? awful really.

AWful map design coupled with needing masteries to navigate it. which also makes group play awful. oh i dont have bouncing mushrooms yet and you do welp i guess ill get left behind.

Or falling to your death to try and follow someone.

The maps awful for group play, yet everything is tuned for it its almost impossible to explore solo.

Also kittening 400 SP for the elite spec??? when alot of those are locked behind masteries aswell…

They should lock being able to run and jump behind masteries if they are going to lock necessary components of the game behind a grind wall.

400 points is insane, especialy when alot of them are locked behind stupid mastery grind walls to even be able to navigate the map and claim the SP

Fall out 4 easily, new expansions awful.

the problem about finding a group aswell is so much of the maps require masteries to easily navigate, if you dont have the masteries and others do you get left behind in the dirt. Or if you kitten up and miss a jump/glide you get left behind or you get lost and seperated….

i dont want to grind to get masteries that allow me to mvoe around in the awful new maps just so i can try the new spec out.

Domey.9804:

i prefer pvd farming eotm over “exploring” the new maps.

Dont forget having to grind in the new maps so you can get the abilities nesecary to be able to explore in the first place…..

Navigating the new maps without any of the masteries is the worst experince ive ever had to deal with. Vertical maps are a pain to navigate with maps anyway, but you lock nesecary navigational abilities behind a grind wall. and then make it so you need to do all/most of the hero challenges to be able to play the elite spec making it so you arent able to play it till youve finished the zones, because the mobs are a challenge (good) so no one will use the elite spec before they have all the skills.

Zibbles.6349:

Personally, I’m loving the verticality of the new maps. I know it makes navigation a little more tricky, yet, it makes it feel more natural and as thought there’s so much more to explore. I keep finding all sorts of goodies and places in the new caves. hoping to try exploring the canopy a little more once I raise my masteries. I imagine this will keep me busy for quite a bit longer than some of the older less altitude varied maps.

i would enjoy it more if you didnt have to grind to be able to navigate the area. Whats next you have to grind xp to be able to run or jump?

probably because the new zones are awful to navigate, so its hard to find people and events.

400 sps is really a ridiculous amount. even in pve you will need to do all or nearly all the challenges to play the elite spec. So you need to finish hot before your able to play the new thing.

and in wvw you only get 2-3 or so of the proof of heroics per wvw and you need 400.. so thats about 200 wvw levels per character that you want to unlock the elite spec on.

what happened to their no grind policy?

i hate the new zones, awful to navigate, the skills you need to navigate it are locked behind a grind wall which makes… no sense? you need 400 Sp to play the new elite spec.

And as you said the events are… preety standard. i also got to a hero point challenge and no one else was there, waitied 15 mins and still no one was there. i guess thats what you get for trying to explore?

its FAR too frustrating to navigate, its awful, and all the skills you need to navigate are locked behind a grind wall?

slow clap

Aguri.2896:

Yes ty Anet for adding this wonderful NPC! Or well… changing them I guess. It’s amazing to see things like this getting visibility everywhere from our TV shows to our video games.

I do have one complaint though. For LGBT characters so far we have two main lesbian couples and one insignificant male homosexual couple most people probably never noticed, now the only trans NPC is also female. Next time a LGBT character is added, would it hurt for it to be a guy?

well technicly he was a guy… :P

As a trans person myself +1000 respect.

Bought it no regrets looking forward to HoT £35 for an expac for a game with no subfee is mroe than reasonable. people are just being whiny kittens.

On the plus side due to my friend only having to buy heart of thorns im getting a new player into the game, as they wasnt prepared to buy gw2 + hot.

Getting new players into the game is important for the life of the game.

I have a friend who wanted to get into gw2 but didnt want to have to pay for the core game and the expac just to get into it, which is understandable.

Now he can get both and join the community.

The expac is priced fiarly even for just an expac. yet alone one for a game without a subfee.