Guild Wars 2

@atai:
aside the fact that you get my full respect for making first place the last week (clever use of new years eve, I got to give you that) – when oh when will people learn that server population has absolutely nothing to do with WvW population…

Dunno SoR, never faced BG
cause I kick kittens over here in Germany
But one thing is fo sho
if I would go against yo
your mothers would cry and go “please no”
So you better pray
that over here I stay
cause to Elona your all nothin but prey
But have no fear
I’ll stay over here
and before I forget it: A happy new year..!

Once upon a time there was a thread.
It was friendly, respectfull and overall entertaining to read.
But all of a sudden trolls jumped it and poisened it with useless crap.
Some people felt the urgent need to take that challenge and so the flamewars began.
Gone was the thread, like many before and many to come….

@murtas:
Oops – you got us!
Sure we have a contract with VZ. Like in every matchup, didn’t you know?
Elona is gonna be first place, Vizunah will be second and SF will get the kittening kitten kittened. Thats whats written there, I swear.
We all signed it: all the commanders, the guilds and the pugs as well. I send you a copy if needed. As I reread it now, it also says that VZ and ER are the rightfull owners of nightcapping – how did you now that..?

On a more serious note: still a blast, close and thrilling, this T1 simply rocks.

A LOT of work went into this, and it shows in a good way.
Much respect, well done..!

Had quite a few situations that make me quote Marv from “Sin City” right here:

“The killing? No fun. Everything that comes before the killing will be a blast..!”

Keep it up, folks, and a happy new year to everyone!

for EU it’s Vizunah fo shure. No matter who comes up to T1, be it international or EU, they keep their ground up there – very impressive.
Plus in the forum (dunno about the french forum^^) they are always friendly and respectfull.

Binafus.8153:

Next weeks EU 1 match up

French
English
German

What could be better than killing French and Germans all next week.

Killing English and French, I would assume^^
Aside that, I am looking forward to be steamrolled by two servers that allready earned my respect in pasttime matchups.
Btt: As said before, and I can tell that from personal experience as well: EU is much more competetive and thrilling, I do not see any serious WvW-player thinking about a switch across the ocean (can only speak for my server, but have the strong feeling, that this is true for other EU servers as well).

My wife.
She still is the one boss that remaines undefeated…

Bunzy.8674:

Every MMO that has ever implemented stealth has found these classes become overpowered…

You did not play that much MMO’s, did you..?

Bunzy.8674:

…
If you are a future game designer please never implement such a poor mechanic into any game were you want serious pvp.

Sure, future game designers drop by here frequently, and WvWvW is serious pvp.-.-

Bunzy, you are my hero – D/D ele and still starting a whinethread whenever a thief teaches you a lesson. Very entertaining those threads, with all those no-cluers jumping on your train at once. Thanx.

Bunzy, your list is incomplete.
But no worries, I can help you out, just add:

Warriors
Necros
Guardians

and you are good to go.

Average time in WvW per day I would guess to be 1 hour (some days I don’t play GW2 at all, other days 6 hours or so). Collected about 200 badges so far, they all go straight to the bank. Have to add, that I often contribute by scouting/building up defense and such, resulting in days with no badges at all.

Mostlikely this will not contribute to the thread, but I just wanted to mention, that being a thief myself, I prefer interrupting downed enemys before sending them to the spawn.

A friendly whisper with a short explanation works for me almost always whenever I see someone doing it. The rest are just kids who will not listen to you nomatter what, you have to live with those.

Ajaxx:
I would break down Shadowwolfs explanation to one simple fact: Elona suffers from a serious lack of wvw-players atm, including some important guilds/commanders.
Think it will take us at least three more weeks to regain a competetive power, plus I would not be surprised if we go down at least one more tier.
I do not complain, cause this is the way things go, other servers went through that valley before us and more servers will follow our track.

@spiritus:
next time I’ll put the “ironic” tag – just for you^^

Junkpile:
No worries, Baruch is no match for you. Don’t want to sound arrogant, but Baruch Bay has a serious lack of strategie/coordination and therefor was the easiest server to fight against for Elona in the upper tiers.
You better break your head on the other servers you might be facing in the future – this is a totally different league.

Well done Kinky!
A well deserved sticky.

It’s not the names that were to long, it’s the hut being to small^^

Burning oil needs to be nerfed, seriously!
By the way, next time try it with 42 golems, cause we all know that this is the ultimate answer.

supplies – Never run around with none, but do NOT take them from the towers/garrissons supplies unless the commander tells you to do so. These supplies are needed for upgrading and defense. Take supplies from the suppliecamps. Protect the Dollies, they are essential.

Thanx HabibLoew, for the update.
FireRunner: Let me add some more points to your list, to get that “godmode” off those crappy little thiefs for once and all:
1 – remove weapon slots from thiefes.
2 – reduce thiefs lifepool for AT LEAST 50%.
3 – why not remove stealth completely, as we are allready at it.

then, MAYBE, thiefs are somewhat balanced. Did I get you right?

23) Thou shall complain about the op’ness of warriors, guardians, eles, mesmers, necros and engies whenever possible, cause they are the bane of WvW.
24) Thou shall never complain about the op-ness of rangers, cause they are not.

SpecterMAT:
Was there anything you did not understand when I wrote “..they are easy to counter”..?
There is options, what you ask for is getting those options presented to you on a silver tray, because you are to lazy to do some research on your own.
I somewhat feel like Same (player/poster here), he/she explained it more than just a few times, people just ignore it and keep on crying….

Revealed..?
There is no such thing. That aside, it’s pretty easy to kill a permastealthed thief, but if people are not willing to do a little research, who am I to complain..?^^
vsutra: You don’t see it? Look harder. Naphack gave an example of how to do it (it’s not how I do it, but that doesn’t matter). Why permastealthed thiefs do not keep all the supplycamps for eternity? Because they are easy to counter. Permastealth does not make you invulnerable, and as I said, there are enough signs and hints about the whereabouts of said thiefs.

vsutra.8214:

I’m a thief. Lvl 80. It is a fairytale, unless your definition of perma vastly differs than what it actually means.

Don’t know what exactly you are trying to tell me, just to make it clear:
Thief, lvl 80, just like you^^.
If I want to, my char stays permastealthed for hours. Other players will see signs of me refreshing the stealth, but not the char itself. That’s my definition of thiefes permastealth in GW2.

I like this matchup so far.
Pretty close, cool fights (epic ones as well as beeing ripped into pieces within seconds),
let’s hope it will stay like this during the week.
Thanx to all of you.

Columba/ GekoHayate/ whomever else:
Thief perma stealth has NOTHING to do with exploiting a culling/renderin bug.
If you still believe in this fairytale, roll a thief and try for yourself.
A thief with the right traits and weaponset can stay permastealthed easely, totally legit, no rendering issues included.
The only thing that needs to be fixed is permastealthed thiefes stopping groupes from capping points. That is a totally different thing, and I agree that ANet should fix this.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

I kinda have the feeling everyone in this tread is playing a mesmer or thief…

Öhm – your feeling tricked you.
Up to your post there were – hold on a sec – 5 guardians, 5 thiefes, 5 engies, 3 warriors, 3 mesmers, and 1 ele, 1 necro, 1 ranger.
So much for the picky-part (sorry, just couldn’t resist).
Btt.: My fav class to pick is the one that turns up on my screen. I don’t give a kitten about class, I just go for it. Often enough I pay for my arrogance, but this to me is the only way to learn how to deal with all classes.

Columba:
Where did I defend thiefes perma stealth?
Feel free to quote me, please.

I am not willing two chew on this topic AGAIN.
I only wan’t you to know, all of you:
The next one that comes up with a "nerf thief, permastealth blabla " thread, makes his way straight to my personal blacklist.
I am gonna hunt you down on the battlefield and make you pay for your ignorance.
Not a threat, a promise.

Saros.4968:

… Where is the strong opposition that ER used to show ?..

The correct term would be “domination”.
And don’t worry (in a dark Arnold voice:) We’ll be back.
Elona started out as a PvE-server and that didn’t change, plus we lost some important commanders – maybe even a big guild, this is not clarified yet – so there is gaps to fill, too.
But as I said, we gonna be back sooner or later, and will make u eat dust again, no worries.

To me Blacktide is a stand-alone phenomenom atm, I do not see any serious challenger for them. Vizu made the best with the tools they have, all respect to them, they really deserve to be in T1 – Deso is a story on it’s own, we don’t need to chew on this again. All in all, T1 is not as interesting for us spectators as it used to be back in the days. Hope (almost) all of you still get some fun out of it, greetings from a happy T2-player .

Khronus:
Does that mean you do not play with scouts or need people to operate defense sieges..?
Reidlos: it makes sense. Absolutely. Aside the fact, that you start to learn about WvW pretty soon and will not have to learn the basics (like: what does the map look like) when you are fully competetive. Just get yourself a headset and listen to what’s goin’ on in the TS.
Plus: I have seen more than enough lvl 80 chars in WvW who were totally useless for the team, so don’t worry and do not let others disencourage you. Go for it.

Haltair, no offence intended, I am just curious:
Why would you like to go to T1? You would be nothing but cannonfoddr for Vizu and them Blackies. I play on Elona, and most of the time when I am in WvW I play on the Baruch Borderlands. With all respect, I can tell you – you are not made for T1 (Elona as well, don’t get me wrong). Even if you fill up the lack of population, there is still a lot you have to learn.
Until now – and again, no offence intended here – you are the easiest opponent we faced the last weeks. I wish you good luck with your invitation, but whoever joines you, should know, that there is a lot of work to do. Before that you shouldn’t think about T1, imho.

RUIN leaving Deso to go- where..?
If this is true, and mostlikely it is, RUIN is the new definition of WTJ.
The most ridiculous guild ever.
Here on Elona we are laughing our kittens off, believe me.
Good that we are a german tagged server, we will never face the problem to have to deal with cheap troops like this one.

Same:
forget it, there is no use in trying to explain. Most of the people here look for the easy solution – thief nerf. I as a thief still find myself smiling in front of the screen, thinking to myself “and here we have another clueless group, thank you very much”.

TheBob:
You are wrong. Thief don’t need to touch enemys to stay stealthed.
By the way, to all of you, why didn’t you post your suggestions here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Blocking-camp-capture-while-stealth/first

just curious.

Solid solution:
When you die, you slowly zoom out of the scenerie. Up up and away, until there is a sort of tunnel appearing in front of you, with a warm golden light at the end. You feel peaceful and free and walk into that light were a friendly voice …hold on, I was dragged away.
Ok, 2 minutes until kick to the map, sounds good to me.

sarmatiko.2843:

Lets hope Elona Reach will consume some organized 3W guilds from DE community and return to T1. At least then we will have some interesting sieges and golem rushes

Honestly Elona is not interested in going to T1 at the moment. Mainly because we are a “german” server with a pretty solid german community. We will never be an international server like Deso or cover as many shifts as Blacktide, that is simple facts.
That means: we are not made for T1, we fit pretty good in T2.
And you know what? We are happy with it.
Btt: the server that impresses me most, is Vizunah. With almost the same preconditions like us they still make a stand in T1 – all respect to them. Blacktide mostlikely will stay in T1 for quite some time, I guess. They have the quantity plus the quality, props. Desolation to me is, I will not lie, a disappointment. A lot of bigmouth trolling (thanx mainly to this one guild) and flexing, and when it comes down to the nitty-gritty, all that is left is hot air.

Spiders:
Good one, I love that idea!
I would even stand in the middle as a referee – oh wait..

Aurika:
One more word and I will have to assassinate you..!

Poke Menot
thief

Joriel.1530:

just came from work and….. =O

how come BT is this strong? Is it the NA guilds or just the Russians aint sleeping?

Guess BT and VS made an alliance – poor Deso, it’s 2 vs 1 again

Impala.4952:

Congratulations to everyone on Blacktide for reaching T1. When we last matched up in T3 I new it was only a matter of time before you guys would be in T1 with us. I’ve been looking forward to a rematch since because of your never give up never complain attitude. We have a something in common (non-international servers despise us) that makes us brothers outside of the battlefield. The mutual respect we have for each other you can’t find between any other servers…

…brought tears to my eyes – tears of laughter, that is.
Thanx, guys, threads like this one are priceless:)

edited – thanx to Ins ^^

Highest rank is and will always be “Asura”.

problem is to collect enough of those skillpoints (dunno the english term atm, these blue ones) – we (two guildies and me) tried to do the exact thing with three chars, but gave up on it because of the mentioned problem.

Isaac, if you don’t want to help, just don’t post. I am tired of these " I know it, but I won’t tell ya"-posts.
Btt.: As said by others before, don’t run around alone. Plus it’s pretty helpfull to join the TS, especially when you are a beginner. That way you learn a lot that might be of use for your coming WvW-career.
And: Welcome to the slaughterhouse

Syndic:
Easy to explain whats goin on: Elona doesn’t have the manpower to stand up against Blacktide. Beeing crushed by a blue Tsunami every night is not that much fun ^^.
I am not judging it, it’s just how things go. So Elona gave up on this matchup, many players take a PvE holiday and hope that Blacktide passes by as fast as possible.
Dunno what’s up with Riverside, but I would guess is more or less the same.

@kranz:
…and those sissy little girlies kicked some french a** without help of american mercenaries. Strange that it takes Desolation such a long time to achieve the same – what does this tell us about Desolation?
Just curious.

Well, I am not an ANet-member, so I am not supposed to post here, but Sky really got me curious: Is it really a fact that on NA servers you face the same situation, that big EU guilds move in over there?
I honestly do not intend to troll, I simply don’t know and would like to.
As for your topic, Neutro, I highly doubt that you will get an official answer to your question here, regarding all those threads about this topic without any ANet statement. But, I would like to know this, too