WvW Officer of PvP Inc.
“There is no shame in finishing second… When it was to me” -Bahatsu
@Drede Ironic considering your cannon fodder guild VIP jumped train to Darkhaven. Guess you all should go ahead and start the mass transfer to CD now.
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Darkhaven. PvEing there way to victory one keeplord at a time. Naw guys its skill, really. Cant wait to wake up and fight Mag every morning/early evening.
Take out 4-6 hours where DH has no contesting and see how well they do.
I have multiple problems with this quote.
1. You go virtually unchallenged during the morning/noon times, EB gets virtually nothing.
Again I said we wake up to a sea of blue WHILE YOU SLEEP and are able to recap. The difference is BOTH us and EB are on basically the same schedule unlike you.
2. Your claim that you’d have won had you switched strategy is quite bold, we’ll see next week when we go up against that again. Having said that, see my screenshot below to see if it would have been so easy for you to beat Dh
Yea not looking forward to another match up where we get to PvE most of the time. Its not your fault just the mechanics. I dont blame DH for being able to do what they do its just not fun to play against. We lost last week to SoL but that was 100% fun. I doubt many of us are willing to do this strategy again for a whole week. Not worth it. If given the choice of course I would rather win but more importantly I would rather have fun.
3. You guys don’t have super small night time populations (EB does somewhat). I’ve not seen a competing night time population as large as NSP’s except for SoR and maybe Yak’s Bend. We don’t PvE the map, and I’m getting really, really sick of hearing people degrade the hard work and thousands of hours spent but hundreds of people trying to keep our server competitive at night. We outnumber you and we outplay you, and we don’t outnumber you by as much as you seem to think (an Oceanic player from NSP even admitted that on page 3).
It is pretty small once its 3-4 in morning our time just like yours is pretty small when we wake up at 8-9 est. You say you out-number AND out-play us. LOL, thats like me posting a screen shot at 12:01pm est time when the world is green again and saying we outplayed you AND we had more numbers. Ask most EB people or SoR etc who they are more worried about, a group of 10 DH or a group of 10 NSP. The answer will be clear.
The boring part and frustrating part of this match up is again the fact that our servers really dont get to face off that much. I know in an even match up we are better than you. Just like you think in an even match up you are better than us. Problem is we will never know. We PvE our orbs and keeps that YOU pved the night before in the mornings. THEN we try to defend as much as we can against EB until DH wakes up then we defend as long as we can until bed.
NSP here.
Yea we changed strategy starting wednesday that if we had done even 1 day sooner would have neted us the win. Not that its over yet, but its going to be close.
Its frustrating that DH gets so many free hours of 95-100% world cap while 2 other servers sleep. Then when its our turn to recap while DH sleeps we still have to deal with EB We dont get as many hours of free cap because (and i dont blame them) EB wakes up sees all green at this point and start taking there stuff back.
Just an unfortunate mechanic.
in WvW
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Wont let me quote for some reason.
Yea nut I guess so except we are now fighting both of you. Sanct to win and you all to stay second.
Basically we deserve minimal second but have to 2 on 1 the last day and end up third because we could have actually won while you all kittened around with us since you were to far back to matter.
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Fantastic match up… Have to say most action packed week we have ever had.
shame we led about 60% of the week total to have it come down to fighting sanctum AND yak the last 24 hours. Im a little sad to see yak resort to playing for second and not for the win. Much respect to sanc tho.
We took one supply camp in sanct FAR away from yaks spawn and defended it against 2 waves of sanct…. only to have yak come in from the rear and flank us????
It was the ONLY spot on the map not owned by sanc… so they had to make a LOT of effort to get there and it was not by any means a small group.
:(
Poor guys… i remember when we used to do that to them.
On phone so cant quickly link it. Some post on here the gm of tfo got locked because of some laughable 12 year old momma jokes.
Lmao, you werent doing anything for Anvil Rock anyway. Maybe you can go ride the coat tails of a dif server. This is the second time you all have shown your true colors. Goodluck. I had many fond memories of 1 v 3 and 2 v 5 your pointless camp rotations. Heres to seeing you again down the road. raises glass
Warriors are very powerful if played correctly. I main a warrior and all i do is WvW. Certain specs are for certain situations and most can be viable if played correctly. It all boils down to your play style and the supporting cast that you have playing with you.
I am usually the first one in a fight and the last one out. I run a healthy balance of Glass cannon and survivability to ensure that I cannot be ignored or insta gibbed. You just need to find the correct set up for your style of play. PM me if you want more details as I dont like sharing them to the mass
The weakest situation for us is usually keep defense but even then you can be calling targets for your groups focus fire and manning siege. You can also make some strategic fear bombs and use your passive trait to jump off of high surfaces to do some funny things
All and all warriors are very balanced and as a warrior the only class/spec that even remotely gives me trouble are certain speced mesmers and 1 spec of thief. Everything else pretty much melts.
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Awww I love Kaineng. I truly believe the spirit they show is how the game should be played!
Its like one of those heart wrenching stories… but like one of the ones where you love a certain character… and you follow, root and pull for said character… He may have been tortured for years, his family brutaly beaten and burned alive in front of him, his home land kitten and pillaged while he was away… and you just know against all odds he is going to make it and pay those monsters back…
…until he dies in chapter 5 and you forget about him by chapter 8…
I hope we remember you come chapter 8 Kaineng.
TFO must REALLY be making a name for themselves if a person feels pride in ganking one of our members!
Eh its not a gank when its 3 v 1 and you have the 3… or when its 3 on 6 and you have the 6…
I see a trend here regarding using factual numbers… “7 pushed out 70” “He ganked ONE of our people” etc…
I also see a trend in the level of class with mom jokes… I am getting a better understanding of who you all are now, which will allow me to have more fun in our future encounters… which is what the game is all about. TY!
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TFO does those runs simply to gain XP/Karma/Money. Not to obtain ‘real’ objectives. We were trying for ‘real’ objectives on Saturday when we took half of EB from you. I hope you remember when 7 TFO members jumped off of Anvil Keep Gate and pushed about 70 of you back out of the gate.
So yes, you managed to take out our lowbie group that is leveling up. Good for you! You’re such a big man for taking out the level 10s! I’ll be sure to tell your mom when I see her tonight, she might hang that screenshot on the fridge for you.
WvW Leader in your name tag? Now I see the real problem Way to represent with class.
7 pushed back 70? You seem insecure. If thats the case then stop zerging supply camps with 10 people and claim some towers/keeps and help your server. Otherwise go farm in Orr and stop wasting valuable slots for the real PvPers.
5 of you can’t take out 2 people at a supply camp much less push "9,898,908 people off any keep. Plus i did give you props for that 1 keep you all defended that 1 time.
We have chased full groups of you people for 2 minutes with 2-3 people and none of them noticed until 4 of you were dead and the last guy finally turns around.
Hey thanks, I will take you at your word that all these lads were level 10.
This was to demonstrate one of the flaws of A.Rock and thats that they continue the same path to get camps, get held off by 1-2 people then even once they get a good sized zerg they do the same thing and rarely try for a real objective.
The ANVL. guild while no real threat unless they get a large number together at least seem to go for objectives. These other kids go on the afk path by following the same route.
I did see TFO defend a keep once tho, did a good job at it. Bet Anvil Rock wish’s they did it more.
TFO was making the normal camp rounds a bit ago… but ran into a single snag (see pic attached)
And before you ask no the guild claimer didn’t have the buff…
And then they brought a few pals… luckily I had 2 of my own.
[IMG]http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/Bahatsu/TFORnd2.jpg[/IMG]
Same result…
Yup playing from laptop at work gotta crank it down low to keep FPS at 30.
Exactly. People do that everywhere. Just yesterday I got ambushed by 3 dudes and when I died, they started “/me”-ing various things like “spits on body” and “teabags body” and stuff.
To me, tactics like teaming up on one person, or camping around corners in Halo with a sword, or camping hallways in CoD, or any of those kinda cheapkitten tactics, should never be followed up with “suck it, you got owned”-type gestures.
To be fair it usually takes about 3 of them to kill anyone so it probably felt like an
ac·com·plish·ment
Noun:
1.Something that has been achieved successfully.
2.The successful achievement of a task
As seen below sometimes even 3 is not enough
I just wanted to give a shout out for the massive fun my guild [PvP] (NS) had last night from about 10:30-12:00 fighting in the North at Titans Paw.
We were able to take the upgraded camp with about 6 people as it only had 3-4 defenders and maybe 2 arrow carts that they never made it to. We were then able to hold the Paw upgrading it and getting supplies to Crag and the Hill for about an hour and a half before we were called else where. During this time we fought off 3-4 large pushes of Anvil Rock defenders.
The first 2 pushes of about twice our numbers ran down the stairs and pretty much got insta gibbed. The last 2 pushes of a much larger force tried to hide behind the archery and send a group flanking is from the West. A much better strategy than the zerg rush but still did not pay off.
After the 4th push was dealth with we left a handful of pugers that had slowly formed and 1 of our members to keep en eye out. The second we got just down the road the zerg came back for a 5th try and was able to take it back. They must have really been watching for us to leave or got amazingly lucky with the timing.
Either way it was amazing fun and I commend Anvil Rock for not completely giving up on Titans Paw. I would have loved to be in that team chat tho
A few pics:
[IMG]http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/Bahatsu/AnvilRocked1.jpg[/IMG]
In this pic we held it off with only about 4-5 people. (Some were escorting a dolyac)
[IMG]http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/Bahatsu/AnvilRocked2.jpg[/IMG]
In this one our second group had gotten back and Anvil threw an even larger force at us.
Lol a medal recomendation for Nuke?
Did you use them as meatshields or something?
I agree full heartedly. There was a time a few weeks ago people were leaving by the droves. I even had a real life friend beg me to leave and join him on jade Q. because “rome is burning get out while its free to transfer”.
Fact is wvw log ins were 5 hours plus… then once the alliance(s) left all the casual and less than hard core pvpers finally got a chance to make it to WvW… to face Henge… which caused us to lose badly and even more people left…
NS has a fantastic, non whining, we are here for the whole mentality and thats why we have been able to pick ourselves up. When we got stomped by Anvil a week or so ago we didnt come QQ on boards hit our wives/hubbies or quit. We learned from it got organized and this time its a much different story.
/salute NS. see you in wvw.
Also another point from one of the more active guilds in PvP. While you (anvil) actually got Dread Bay on Sunday you all mindlessly attacked our zerg with your zerg at the front gates…
All the while my guild took 8 people and took down the Northern Gate allowing our zerg free access inside.
Just another case and point of how there will always be zerg balls roaming around on BOTH sides and often times the difference is a little bit of coordination.
Edit: 2 of your guilds not sure names but abbrev. are ANVL and RAID were fielding some 5 mans around Redlake trying to take out our supplies surrounding our Tower. (which we have held for 24+ hours with full upgrades)
I don’t know if they are under leveled or what but on MANY occasions 3 of us were patrolling and ran into a group of 5 and completely wiped them. once or twice in each supply camp and once in the middle island where the vet spawns. One time it was even as they took a camp and the guards spawned and got on us.
I agree it stinks that we have to chug our way out of this bracket 1 week at a time. We want out as much as you want us out but there are still small things that you call can improve upon for your future match ups. I use every buttwhupping i get as a chance to learn why i lost and to get better. We also review every victory and see why we won what we could of done better and where our opponent failed so we can handle that situation even better next time.
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On my iphone so excuse typos. @Steelrecon
lets clarify somethings.
#1: You were in no way winning day one until you got night capped. YES it looked even the first hour before things settled in but every server looked even then. We were up (ns) by the second or third tally and never looked back. We held our stuff thru the night but dont act like you were winning logged off at 12:00 and woke up 50k down.
#2: If by spawn camping you are talking about titanspaw on your wvw map on saturday that was a small tactical unit from my guild looking to get supplies to cragtop tower. What you failed to mention is how we took the camp from you with 4 people vs your 7+ then we held it for 3 hours with only 6 people. Yes we set up seige and yes I have amazing screenshots I will post after I get home with us using said siege to destroy your mini zerg of 10-20 that failed to take it back at any point we were there. You all even tried to counter siege from the hill above and failed. You just kept sending 20 people down those stairs into 2 balista and 3 arrow carts…. Also once we left and came back later i do respect how you (anvil rock) had then copied our tactic and camped there the rest of the evening with siege. At least you learned something.
#3: We had fully upgraded the camp and even escorted dolyacs to cragtop. (god knows even holding titanspaw in the north for 3 hours it still took ages to get cragtop upgraded.
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Was that before or after we took the orb away from you and took it to our garrison? Not once, but twice (the first time our carrier got bugged or something and it returned to its cradle, so we had to let you take it again.)
Oh and, what’s a que? Or is it queue? Never mind, never heard of either one
You mean took your own orb back? Grats
Carrier bugged or just didn’t know what to do with it?
Regardless was fun.
I just wanted to take a moment to /salute all of my fellow NS players.
The player base we had left after a certain Alliance left was definitely thrown into the fire a few weeks ago. Our 5 hour+ Ques dropped down and some of the normal players got to actually WvW on a daily basis. We most certainly went thru some growing pains but I am proud that thru it all I have seen Limited whining in chat and fantastic communication in /team. I know our opponents have been really out gunned/out manned during this 7 day match up and I salute them for being good sports and continuing to show up.
I look forward to where we climb on the WvW list and our next opponents.
If anyone is interested in some respectful WvW that uses actual tactics, has limited que times, and most importantly has a lot of fun please feel free to reach out to me in game. We would love to have some more people in our NS WvW family.
Respectfully Yours,
Was a fun night of WvW thats for sure.
/Salute to Kaineng for continuing to show up through the late afternoon and evening.
It was fun to actually face some people on the field of battle who stood and fought instead of 5 of us running into another one of your groups of 5-7 and having them run off losing 2-3 people. Guess your gun shy
We had an amazing fight Way up north (godsword I think not online atm… oh btw is it Gods Word or God Sword…) where about 14 of us held off your zerg ball for about 10-15 minutes and forcing you from the east road back into your supply camp. I will never understand why you all just didn’t pounce and route us and instead you let us pick you off and force you back.
Hope you all are qued up tonight as well
Wow i actually signed up on the forums just to post what fun I had last night in WvW since Kaineng actually showed up for a bit… And i see this.
I will do all of Kaineng and Dev. Rest a favor and not let this one individual spoil my view of you as a whole. obviously this one message board whiner does not offer the same respect to us. There has been plenty of times on all sides I have seen this abused. I ran into a Kaineng Warrior yesterday afternoon that feared me ran away until out of combat then poofed. (ported or logged)
We do seem to have more numbers in the WvW than you that is a fact. However time and time again when you actually get some numbers I am in a group of 7-14 that can stalemate and route a group of 20+ for about 20 mins. All the while the rest of NS are securing towers. We have come a LONG way as a server since the big alliance left. Now that more and more people are getting comfortable with WvW and communicating we are doing MUCH better. (Before we couldn’t even log into WvW for 5+ hours at a time because of said alliance)
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