Guild Wars 2

Woaden.9425:

I know that I’m late to this conversation, but it is truly the scoring system, tied to servers, that creates these sorts of unbalanced matchups. Attempting to fix these matchups by introducing new wvw mechanics will only be treating the symptom, not the cause.

As has been mentioned elsewhere in this conversation, people will flock to the top arena of competition, or they will stack a lower tier server and see how high they can get it. Both of these behaviors are tied directly to the scoring system and perceived “success” based on that scoring system. If you want to be “the best” you compete against the best, those who are at the “top”. You can’t change this behavior in a person through mechanics.

So to fix this systemic issue, you need to change two things:

1. Remove servers as a method of “grouping” and find a new method of grouping such as the mentioned “Battle Groups”, among others.
2. Score those groupings in a way that anyone can see their progress/contribution and be rewarded cool points/bragging rights and be rewarded for ‘loyalty’.

Here would be my proposal

Grouping

No more servers. Just three “world teams” or whatever you want to call them. The teams:

Green Team
Red Team
Blue Team

These teams could then be included in the ‘mega server’ environment. When you log in, if you are green, you’ll get placed in a green team instance.

There could be some lore for these colors, but of course from a mechanics standpoint it isn’t needed. We humans seem to have no problems rallying around and rooting for arbitrary colors as far back in history as you want to go (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots).

How we initially get put in to these colors is beyond the scope of this post, but the initial mix could be done by server/pop/rank until each color had the right initial mix. New players would simply be asked to choose a side when first logging in to wvw. You could switch colors using similar methods to switching servers today, but there would be less reason to because:

Scoring:

The teams themselves are merely the space in which individuals and guilds compete for the top spots. Imagine three columns on a website scoreboard. Red, Green, Blue.

You organize by:

Top guilds by timezone (scoring based on things like length of tower/keep/camp claims, gvg events and amount of investment in victory (who invested the most in upgrades, siege, etc).

Top players (scoring based on individual k:d, individual investment, yak kills, etc).

At the end of a wvw season, the top few guilds of each team could compete in a GVG tournament, and the champions from each color would compete in a World Cup/Superbowl. This shifts focus from “worlds” and on to “guilds”. It still allows guilds to move about freely, and still gives everyone plenty of bragging rights on who’s best.

How to mega-group

Much like the megaserver tries to put you in an instance with people from your guild/friends list, the same could be applied to megamists. In addition, guilds could register who their “allies” and “rivals” are, and so the placement could also take that in to account.

Lastly, guilds could send out a “challenge” to rival guilds, and both could meet in a common instance right away to solve their differences!

Conclusion:

There needs to be some system of scoring that ties large scale combat back to guilds, not worlds. It needs to be some sort of system that will allow ‘mega server’ for constant population for any player, while still creating a sense of comradery and permanence among a group of people.

With Red/Green/Blue, even if “Red” is consistently the best grouping for some reason, that will only mean that Green and Blue become more viable destinations for your guild, because if you make it to the top of Green at the end of the WvW season, you’ll face off against those evil Reds and show them who’s really boss!

This would probably take a lot of effort. That being said, I think this lays a good foundation to revamp WvW in the right direction.

Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB]
Fort Aspenwood Server

I will keep this post short and hopefully provide enough information to give you an idea of what the Vengeance of Balthazar Guild is all about.

It is my mission as Guild Leader to create a guild where members can log in, group up in WvW/PvP, and have fun kicking kitten together. To achieve this, all members must follow our fundamental principles.

Fundamental Principles:

• Play WvW/PvP at least 90% of the time while in game.
• While playing in WvW/PvP, 75+% representation of VoB is required.
• While playing in WvW/PvP, use Teamspeak
• Members must have a desire to play with other guild members
• When playing with other members, be willing to run group support builds if needed. Note: This does not necessarily mean you need to give up the DPS role.
• Play WvW/PvP because of the fun, excitement, and challenge given by fighting other players.
• Don’t forget our secondary objective, PPT
• Be self-motivated to improve as required. Members need to be knowledgeable in their
class(es).
• Play when you can, but obviously life outside the game takes priority. We will not kick you for inactivity unless more room is required in the guild for new active members.
• Recruitment is primarily for EU to NA time slots, however, all time slots are being recruited.
• Do not create or partake in drama
• Be mature, but joking around and having fun is allowed!
• Constructive feedback is always welcome!

If VoB sounds like the guild for you, please contact me in game (bartlewe.6432) or reply to this thread. I hope to hear from you soon and see you on the battlefield!

I have over 1400 hours experience on warrior, 99.999% WvW. Looking for a hardcore guild (any server) that runs before 8AM EST weekdays and/or 8AM-Noon weekends. I have a somewhat busy home life (full time job, married, home owner, etc) but when I play, I want to have fun owning face. I enjoy fighting in all group sizes and even have experience commanding. I prefer a guild that requires 100% rep and voice comms. Please send me a whisper/mail in game or reply here if you have any questions.

Thanks in advance.

Still looking for more core members!

Hey Cam Ron, have you checked out the VoB guild recruitment thread on FA forum? It sounds like you’re a good fit with our guild. Here is the link.

Updated recruitment information.

Hello WolfOwl. If you’re looking to WvW then check out my guild (Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB]). We are a new guild started about a month ago on the Fort Aspenwood server. Currently about 13 members. Our focus is to have fun in WvW with people who like to socialize and who are respectful. You can check out our recruitment thread here. If you’d like to learn more, please feel free to contact me in game via whisper or mail. Thanks!

Hey Arise! If you’re looking to WvW then check out my guild (Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB]). We are a new guild started about a month ago on the Fort Aspenwood server. Currently about 13 members. Our focus is to have fun in WvW with people who like to socialize and who are respectful. You can check out our recruitment thread here. If you’d like to learn more, please feel free to contact me in game via whisper or mail. Thanks!

Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB]

[VoB] is a dedicated WvW guild on the Fort Aspenwood server. We love all things WvW, but mostly enjoy playing and socializing with other members. As a member of [VoB] you can expect a fun, friendly and respectful environment for everyone to enjoy. WvW experience is not required, but a willingness to learn is.

Answers to Common Questions:

Q: Is teamspeak required?
A: No, but is highly encouraged. If you’re not comfortable in teamspeak you don’t have to join, but you should know that you are probably missing important directions from the group leader. Teamspeak also helps other members to get to know you and for you to know them.

Q: Do I have to represent [VoB] all the time?
A: No. There will always be members that want to occasionally rep other guilds for various reasons. We don’t want to exclude players who are otherwise contributing members of [VoB]. If a member never represents, they will likely be removed from the guild.

Q: What time does [VoB] rally?
A: There are no set times. It is expected that members are in WvW most of the time and playing together. Once the guild is large enough, I anticipate that there will always be a guild group in WvW for you to join no matter what time of day.

Q: Does [VoB] do PvE?
A: I do not plan on hosting PvE events, but if members choose to PvE they are free to do so. That being said, if you don’t spend most of your time in WvW then you’re not a good fit for the guild.

Q: What does [VoB] do in WvW (roam, havoc, PPT or karma train)?
A: We do it all. It depends on group size, what our server needs, and what our members want to do to have fun.

Q: Are specific character builds required?
A: No, but we are more than willing to work together to improve specific builds and group composition. It’s all about teamwork.

If you have any more questions or would like to join, please contact me in game (Bartlewe.6432 aka Aias Ironfell). Thanks for reading!

Updated recruitment information.

Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB], Fort Aspenwood Server

VoB was created so that like-minded WvW players could group up and have fun playing together. We’re looking for mature, semi-hardcore, WvW players who use Teamspeak. We currently have approximately 50 members that are in various time zones with play times ranging from EU to NA. We mostly run havoc and sometimes command or follow another commander. We’re not strictly a “PPT guild” or a “fighting guild”, we tend to do a little of both.

Guild Rallies are scheduled for 9 am EST on Saturdays. As our guild grows, so will the frequency of our rallies. Members are encouraged to group together whether it is rally time or not.

If you’d like to join VoB or if you have any questions please send me a whisper in game (bartlewe.6432).

Vengeance of Balthazar; God of war, fire and challenge.

Vengeance of Balthazar is a friendly, semi-hardcore, WvW guild. Our requirements are
simple:

• Play often. Obviously RL takes priority, but we want an active guild so try to play at
least a couple times a week.

• Play WvW because you enjoy it. DO NOT play WvW just for achievements and
karma.

• Enjoy combat of all scales and types; roaming, zerg-busting, sieging towers/keeps/
castle.

• Enjoy grouping and working with others. This guild is for people that like to play with
guild mates. Solo roaming is ok once in awhile, but our focus is team play. Also, be
willing to discuss tactics/strategy so everyone can improve.

• Use Teamspeak when playing. At a very minimum, you need to be on TS to listen.

• Respect other players. This includes non-guild members and even our enemies.

Please whisper/mail me in game if you have any questions or would like to learn more.

See you on the battlefield.

Aias Ironfell

I’m considering xferring from T4 in hopes of finding action during my play times. What times is your guild most active? During the week I can usually play daily for at least an hour, typically between 1pm-4pm server time. On the weekends I can usually play for at least a couple hours, typically between 5am-9am server time.

I currently reside in Borlis Pass (rank 11ish) and am looking to move into higher tiers for more action. I enjoy fights of all sizes as long as I’m with a skilled group of people that are fun. I spend 99% of my time in WvW. PvE typically puts me to sleep.

Play Time: I squeeze in as much play time as I can while trying to balance a full time job, house work, and keeping the wife happy. During the week I can usually play daily for at least an hour, typically between 1pm-4pm server time. On the weekends I can usually play for at least a couple hours, typically between 5am-9am server time. If the wife is away, I can usually squeeze in a few more hours

I’ve played on the same warrior for over a year, I know my warrior well. I’m willing to run DPS, CC, heals, etc, depending on what is needed for the group. I’m capable running solo or in massive zergs (although I’d have to turn down the gfx for large fights).

I’m sure I’ve left something out, so if you have any questions, please let me know.

Hello, Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB] is a new guild on the Borlis Pass server. We may be a good fit for you if you’re willing to xfer to BP. We are a tier 4 server, so you’ll see a bit more action than on Kaineng and yet it won’t be as zergy as Tier 1. Feel free to check out our website, vob.proboards.com. You can always whisper me in game too if you have any questions.

Vengeance of Balthazar [VoB] is a newly formed WvW guild on Borlis Pass.

VoB was created so that like-minded WvW players could play and socialize together. VoB strives to recruit players that fit our play style and personalities; we’re not a mega-zerg guild. We prefer challenging and engaging fights of all sizes, but would like to focus primarily on fights with 5-15 members. Although not necessarily requirements (as with most things, there can be exceptions), we expect the following from our members. If you don’t meet the below criteria, you’re probably not a good fit for the guild.

*Be experienced in WvW and/or PvP. We want to know that our guild members have our back in combat (PvE does not adequately train you to play against other players). We need to trust and rely and each other. All members will have to learn to play together. Lesser experienced recruits will be allowed on a case by case basis.

*Cooperate. If somebody suggests something, be willing to try it. We all have something we can learn from others, no matter how experienced you are.

*Use Teamspeak. Not only is voice communication important, it also allows members to socialize and get to know each other. A guild is stronger when the members know each other and can communicate effectively.

*Represent the guild. It’s understandable that you may want to do things other than WvW or that you may want to group with others. 100% Representation is not required (at least while we’re starting up and growing in numbers), but you should want to represent as often as possible. Influence will enable us to activate upgrades (such as banners, guild bank, WvW bonuses etc.). Not only does representation give us influence, it also increases awareness of our guild and helps build our reputation.

*Uphold guild values. This is a requirement with absolutely no exceptions. We don’t want members that are rude, arrogant, disrespectful, etc. By all means have fun, but don’t do it at the expense of others.

*Be active. We understand that there are higher priorities than GW2, but we do expect members to play. It’s better to have a core group of members that log in often than it is to have a large number of members that rarely log in. While logged in, you should want to WvW with other members. Occasional PvE is optional.

*There aren’t any “required” play times, however, most of our members will probably be playing in the early evenings (roughly 3pm to 8pm (GMT -5)) during the week and (roughly 8am to 3pm (GMT -5)) on the weekends. This is when I play and also try to recruit for.

Hopefully that gives you a good idea of what the guild is about. If you have any questions or would like to join, feel free to whisper me in game (/w Aias Ironfell) or to create a recruitment thread on our forum . A recruitment template has been stickied for your use as a guide.

Thanks for your interest in our guild!

~Aias

I believe when he says “roaming”, he means running with groups of 5-10 and occasionally up to 20. When talking about roaming in T2, are we talking 5 people or 25 people?

Yeah the 900 range is b.s.

Sanny I have about another week where I can’t play… make some more warrior roaming videos. K thx

Creative you say your warrior is not squishy. Mind sharing your build?

Forget the moves… those are sweet graphics!

Well done! Why do u prefer 4 divinity instead of full melandru?