Ok it seems you really don’t know what to do to stop losing more pvp players.
Here is what you need to do in my opinion:
1. Don’t delet this. Read it.
2. Diversity:
restore the trait system before June 23rd 2015 patch. Make new traits and balance them.
3. Balance:
every class should have a build to fight against certain builds. Its not ok if there are classes who cant fight against heavy condis, medi traps, power scraps ecetera.
4. Make 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 death match arenas with choosable opponent classes (at least in 1v1)
5. Stop class stacking somehow.
6. Show us our MMR.
7. Remove crappy reward tracks. Gold and gem is ok but don’t waste our inventory space with all this junk.
8. Involve community in the balancing procces.
Its good for you and good for the players. Make beta patch servers where veteran players can involve in the development. Write their opinion and maybe vote.
Listen to them.
9. Consider to detach pvp from the game to make an independent much more free enviroment for diversity and balance. Maybe a new game somehow as Dota has been born.
Gw2 pvp is a kittening great game (even if it is nearly unplayable righ now) I think with many possibilities with a great balanced system with great game mods with a bit of hype it could be a real esport.
10. Read the forums.
Thanks.
I can see players in ruby with dear and wolf finishers. I thought first they are just pranksters but then a i realized as i whatched them to play they dont know the map. They don’t have an idea what to do and can’t stand a 1vs1.
(there are usually many of them in my team ofcourse (ty MMR sooooooooooooooo much!))
Agree. This MMR system and the league system is not compatible. MMR not measures your personal skill with this kind of team play. It measures only your luck (lets say “luck” but its a STRONGLY cheated system) if your in the stronger party you will be better than someone with the same skill in the weaker party.
This system is totally false. Dear Anet you can’t give rewards for personal performance based on that!!!!!!!!!
And force newbies to play at least a 100 unranked before the can play ranked.
In fact DH is still much more better than berserker. Especially in conquest (however its true that dh was made for conquest)
But all perma block perma evade classes can kill warr easily now. Evean blind can be deadly when resistance runs out.
Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.
And this ship is sinking very fast sice June 23, 2015 and HoT has just accelerated this progress. They must have a very bad decision maker.
The solution would be ez. You can play league matches only if you have at least a 1000 ranked palyed before. But anet dont give a kitten about the old players they only want to satisfy the wing hungry newbies.
Spvp in this game is a Big pile of crap. Anet should face it.
1. No balance between classes.
2. MM system making it worse (attachment)
3. The pipe system never will work properly utnil they fix 1 and 2.
Thats why.
But they didnt listen to us so it leads to frustration and players will leave. And it leads even worse team setups and longer queue times until spvp extincts finally. Maybe thats what are they planning.
Funny the side that winning has 4 guardians, while guardian being the only class out of meta.
because 3 DH noobs will beat 3 Necro noobs.
Exactly. All my team walked in mid to 4 layers of kittening dh traps.
The whole pip thing is a very bad idea in random arena with random ppl. Obviously these victories or loses would never show your personal skill that way. (+ in the top of everything MM system kittens the whole things up.)
It is just really bad game design nothing more. If anet had a (real) game designer this things would not be exists now.
Its ok if you want to play one or two matches just for fun but you can’t progress in that way now no matter how good are you. Its becouse of the terrible match making and the game balance which is bleeding from a thousand wounds.
Pipes sandly dosent refelect the personal skill or experience. Instead they reflect your luck and your mmr.
Its a very bad game design. In fact one of the worst mixture what i have ever seen.
I know veterens all know that but its maybe useful information for new players. Or maybe one day someone from anet will read this forum and they will fix the game. (just kidding its never gonna happen)
LOL!
MM is worst then ever. It ridiculously big pile of Kitten. And on the top of that there is the crapy pipe system and the really unbalanced game system. GJ! U can be proud of that!
Spvp in this game is a Big pile of crap. Anet should face it.
1. No balance between classes.
2. MM system making it worse (attachment)
3. The pipe system never will work properly utnil they fix 1 and 2.
Thats why.
But they didnt listen to us so it leads to frustration and players will leave. And it leads even worse team setups and longer queue times until spvp extincts finally. Maybe thats what are they planning.
Agree totally.
The pipe system should go, and the MMR system needs a complete make over, but Anet wont do that things, so i suggest a really fast and easy way which could be solved this problem:
-No defeat streaks at all.
-One defeat only removes the win streak(if u had any) but not a pipe.
-Two defeats in a row removes one pipe.
I think it could give a chance for progress even with this Very BAD MMR system.
In fact its worse than ever. The balancing of teams is totally catastrophic. You cant get a decent match. All of the matches result in 500-50 points and its just pure luck if you are in the winner team or not.
And there are still loops of winnig rows and losing rows. 10-15matches of really easy wins and 10-15 matches of epic losings. Once you are in a loop u cant get out.
Anet please do something with it.
Thanks for the useful answers and ty for the ppl who knows whats this topic about.
For those who not:
If I have to pay(one time) to get advantages against other players, if it increases my chance to win a battle against them then I call it “pay to win”
Why?
Cause I paid to get the advantage to win a battle easier.
OK literally I should call it “one time pay for increased winning chance” but no one cares about. So plz drop this case cause it’s out of control.
No more posts about the meaning of p2w plz but post your duel experineces and duel videos. Ty.
It’s funny how some people can’t understand the relation between the lack of build diversity and the smaller number of builds which can counter meta.
Skill over build. True. But try to fight with a condi war (for example) against a dd cele ele. Good luck.
As Anet keeps killing viable builds we got less and less chance to come up builds which can differ from meta and still useful in a fight.
This whole procces is leading toward the direction of one viable build per class and I think Anet wants to balance this state with elite specializations.
If you can’t understand that please don’t speak about intelligence levels…
And again: I don’t use meta builds and I don’t want to.
Ok I dont use meta thats the whole point. Nwm.
I wonder if the diversity was nerfed to balance the game, cause this game was never been soo unbalanced before.
Ofcourse there will be always a meta for all the builds. The problem is the new trait system cut your choises down absolutely.
And if im evil i have to think they cut it down to make us buy Hot to get back our nerfed builds. But i dont want to believe this.
I did read quite a few posts of you and the general topic is always a qq about how anet does everything wrong and you will stop to play the game, etc. All those qqs are very strange and dont reflect the average opinion of the community (like the qq about cele monthes after the cele meta ended). So I can undersand Grand Havens post, its about the same constructive level as yours.
Thanks for watching my forum activites so closely. Its honors me, but its won’t make GW2 a better game. This forums purpose for the devs to get some feedback on their product. Im writing my feedback and you writnig nothing.
Im a gw player for 10 years now so i have the right to write down my opinion i think whether u like it or not. Its really hard to see this game getting worse and worse thats why im writing.
Cele amu give 4480 stat points and berserker 4 example is only 3000 thats why.
And yes if u are a necro or an ele u are forced to use it cause u dont have anhoter build option if you wanna win a fight.
And yes there are kitten loads of unviable viable builds. Well not too much since the new trait system..
Why are we forced by Anet to use meta builds? Why they cut the class diversity to 1build/class? Why I have to be exactly like others? I hate meta builds and i always tried not to use them. I had a few options before the patch (not too much) but now the choices reduced to 1. Why Anet reduces build options constantly since GW1?
Why celestial amulet is still in pvp? At least get this thing out of the game and dont force everybody to use it. Let ppl be creative.
So aura build was kidnapped by Anet and we should pay the ransom (buy HoT) to get it back. Not too creative but a nice blackmailing.
And shout aura is still much worse than signet aura.
Dear Anet,
a was plannig to buy HoT but I rather quit playing Gw2 after that patch. The whole game is broken and its useless now.
I’m off until you not recall this crap.
You can still build sustain…:crusader, celestial, cleric, settlers ect etc, people need more map awareness, less zerging mentality. Thieves and mesmers..I find them deadly, but also less “unkillable” than before so it balances out for me.
I build for dmg..and I have dmg, I build for sustain…I have the sustain so really the balance is there, definitely is there
Well I the matches I have played Zerging seems perfect. They zerg one shot move on zerg one shot move on zerg one shot move on. If they play solo they die. There is no strategy at all. Like I can’t defend anymore. there is no use to hold a cap. I get massive conditions and one shotted. The best strategy is to do exactly like everyone else. Zerg one shot zerg one shot zerg and so on.
Forget vitality, healing power and toughness.
Only block and other invincible skills and stealth.
and forget revieve too
Sorry guyz but this new patch is tragic.
Don’t waste your time to try to balance it. It’s just crap from the basics.
(everyone is 6-6-6, stacking condis, insane dmg outputs) It’s just crap.
Healing skills became a joke, toughness became a joke, and even finishers are useless now cause auto attack is much more faster…
So throw the whole thing out plz.
That’s it.
Im on Europe server and I can see both US and Europe teams on LFG panel. I can join but I can’t enter the Fractals with a US team. Its very annoying not just for me but the team mates too.
What can i do?
Thanks.
I think if your win ratio is too high the game puts you in the weaker team for some matches. Its very hard to win in this situation. Even if you have the highest scores you could lose 10 games in a row which can be very frustrating.
