Guild Wars 2

Fear is probably a prime example of a counter (unless stability is also being spammed). I have yet to test it.

Maharius.4651:

Caliber you cant say that the majority doesnt think it matters, thats just your gut feeling, but totally wrong.

People i have spoken to have all agreed that the hacks are bad for morale of the opposition. But what do you want us to do, if i saw it i would report it, and many here have said so themselves. But by admitting that people are not turning up to wvw on purpose is punishing the majority of us who dont hack, and werent there to see it.

When the hacks happened did you go to the blackgate community forums and speak to those in charge and try to organise its return. I havent seen the answer but if you didnt, why not since people said SBI did it last week?

Our tactics may be questionable in your eyes, we have hackers like everyone else, and we report them like everyone else. But it feels to me like people came into this match with an impression of blackgate that is causing all this kitten kitten.

I agree with you 100%, the “majority” I speak of is the general attitude on the BG forums and here (calling people names, downplaying the effect of hacking on this week’s event, etc.) For all I know that’s just the loudest bunch though. Lately it seems the conversation has become more refined.

I have never said the portal bomb wasn’t at least a little admirable, even if it is in need of some mechanic changes. I just wish this weekend’s fight wasn’t tainted by the other thing.

Well back to killing, still 4 days left.

Edit: In regards to organizing it’s return I am not sure who did it last time, it’s probably better if we discuss protocol for it as servers to avoid this kind of talk in the future. I suggest some kind of “if it’s hacked, bring it back” thing. Not sure of the pros and cons of that though. Always open for discussion. Plus it’s catchy and I could see some cool WW2 style PSA posters hanging around EB with the slogan on it. :P

Surely the entire server isn’t hacking, but the majority seems to think that this doesn’t at all improve their chances of winning. It does so by reducing opposition moral and the obvious buffs from the orbs. That’s the last thing I’ll say about the matter.

earendil.1290:

SBI and JQ hated each others guts. But when JQ won 2 weeks ago there was nothing but respect from us (and the few HoD remaining). When we won last week there was nothing but compliments from both JQ and IoJ. Won’t happen this week and it’s a pity.
So don’t go saying “it always happens”.

And if you honestly can say “it’s not a big deal with the orbs” this means we really think differently.

On SBI we can organize an orb raid for 2-3 hours or more. On Sunday on BG BL me and 2 others were escorting Yaks and fortifying the Hills for 2 hours, because we knew there will be an attack for the orb and we wanted to prepare. We were actually excited and even doing regular patrolling rounds around the keep.

Then the “thing” happened – and the map went unmanned in minutes. I left too – could not stand it.

I don’t know, SBI could be congratulating JQ (or visa versa) by the end of the week anyways. Last week the true test of the battle was the weekday warriors, not the weekend warriors. I did see what you meant, though.

Our guild has always had a general attitude of “present yourself as a respectable opponent”. Although we are merely a shadow of what we were in Warhammer, I still believe that to be true. If our members talked trash in general chat or on publicly available forums, they were reprimanded.

Our old guild leader always had a saying for those that wanted to just squabble and talk smack, “Let cooler heads prevail”.

I guess the point is if BG wants to see this diminish, have the people who represent your community best (BG forum leaders, TS owner, major guild/alliance leaders) come out and say “This is our stance”, and discuss that. For example if War Machine or Hope came on and said “this is how we feel about X” I’d be pretty comfortable in saying you’re talking to our major players as they’re the ones currently running the show (and busting their butts in doing so). Sorry if I left anyone out of that statement, fwiw.

You don’t represent the whole of the server, but you can represent the majority of the force in BG.

Right now the only people talking are the ones who provide the lowest amount of sense and dignity over the matter.

My favorite part is all the gloating over taking kitten near empty borderlands.

Liquid.9672:

Vitrol.1576:

Friday night wasn’t “many weeks” ago… just saying.

I meant prior to this match, which started on Friday. Prior to this match, it had been a long time since there was an orb incident from the server. I’m of the opinion that a player or players transferred to Blackgate for this match to intentionally grief the server and cause drama.

It’s a bummer for sure, and hopefully it can be dealt with.

Quoted for truth. Last week’s matchup was the best fight in WvW I’ve seen. It’s good to see some players acknowledging the issue. I’d say wait for Arena Net to fix it, but they haven’t even publicly responded to the issue.

kidbs.8920:

Skin.3027:

im not sure what you are on, Charlie Sheen(sorry i mean Black Gate) has been in first since day one of this match up.

Uh you guys actually fell to second place for a good chunk of friday night and saturday morning. Miraculously that’s when the orb hacking started. I’m guessing you guys couldn’t stand being outplayed by legitimate means.

+1. The battle started off great but the minute we lost the orb “mysteriously” on Friday night/ Saturday morning (hint: people saw the player who flew in and took it), it was over. A lot of us played ALL weekend (I played at least 12 hours a day, all in WvW), but the tempo slowly changed to what it is now. People just stopped showing up knowing epic battles could turn meaningless due to creative tactical mechanics and outright orb hacking.

In the future remember, this isn’t a “real” war, we can just pick up our kitten and go home. If you want an entire population to feel compelled to play a game with you, you need to understand that this isn’t “face pwning” and “lol I owned joo”, it’s a game, pure and simple, and people play it to have fun.

Sorry blackgate, but enjoy the one sided WvW. You’ve brought it upon yourself with your tactics and trash talking. Most JQ and SBI seems to be sitting this one out.

Personally I’ll be out there when I can, but let’s be honest here, you’re not going to get a strong battle for T1 this week for two reasons: 1.) Halloween event is taking away non-hardcore players from WvW 2.) Orb deal Friday night.

OTOH if you’re on Blackgate and feel this is unfair and that you deserve a stronger battle, maybe you should consider who your peers are…

Not an exploit, just another thing that wasn’t well thought out before implementation.

Aoes shouldn’t have limits and neither should condition stacks. Sadly, when trying to decide “how do we fix this” it’s the nerf bat that always comes out first.

And then.. orb hacking from BG. An unfortunate black mark on the evening.

The fights as a whole have been fine, even with two sides pushing (not cooperating, just pushing.)

The invis + portal bug/tactic? It sucks and it needs to be fixed.

UPDATE: Sorry, but you can’t turn the books in twice, even though you can gather them. Can’t test to see if this works due to that, but if someone hasn’t done it on a higher level toon yet and wants to test go for it.

Try costume/potion? I have meaning to see if it works…

I’ll test now to confirm.

Just leave it in the mail and grab it on an alt. It’s soulbound on acquire, then soulbound in your inventory.

Inquisition Game: Talk to red/bue flag NPC in LA to start. It’s survival zombie pvp, start as a villager and stay alive using weapons/food on the groundor an inquisitor and kill villagers.

It’s also awesome. And loaded right now (I had numerous timeouts connecting to server.)

Seconded. I haven’t seen all of ACT 2 yet, but the Lunatic Game is awesome.

Odd, I was just thinking about this last night as well. I decided that the WvW jumping puzzle may have some area within that works for cross server duels without catching the eye of the zerg. We used to do this on Warhammer all the time and some of my best fights were there.

I also considered the paid/password protected sPVP servers they are adding as a spot to organize duels. I will probably buy/try this at some point soon, me and my guildmates are itching to duel it up a bit.

No that’s incorrect. There’s only one upgrade slot.

I have noticed on a few helmets the dye slot options are reduced for Asura. A perfect example is the crafted 80 exotic Draconic helm (heavy).

On a Charr you can dye the horns, on the Asura you cannot. I have a feeling this is on more items than I know.

I understand there could be issues with scaling and the textures, just curious if anyone else knew this.

Rune of lyssa and boon trait leaves me around 10 seconds between switfness and a great oh crap button.

So far the general consensus is that Pact items have no PVE equivalent.

Makes sense, I guess with my build and style it’s still good in spite of the bugs. Some classes aren’t so lucky.

As a warrior this seems more in line with our savage leap, although IANAMMOD

The change was made to make recharge times cascade 10 → 15 → 20 since they changed it. Most of the other abilities for classes already follow this rule.

What would you change? ArenaNet has already stated that warriors are where they want them to be. I haven’t had a lot of issues.

NSFW language in link audio.

It’s arguable whether or not people should be moving to enjoy the game by winning. They paid for the game just like the rest of us. If the mechanic exists to allow them to do something that increases that, they can’t be faulted for using it. This isn’t a matter of pride or honor, it’s a video game and apart from the RP aspect of those qualities no one is handing out purple hearts for valor.

Some people play the game to be proactive towards the losing server’s goals, others don’t have that tool set or desire. Overall it’s still a game, people tend to confuse game goals with real life goals…

As far as blocking access to WvW, yes, this needs to be adjusted but primarily due to people using it to waste supplies or other things that can be considered uncounterable.

Ultimately they need to start charging (no matter how cheap) for the transfers. Five dollars per transfer even would eliminate the behaviour seen.

And that post is gone. OK back on topic. I’ll post a video next time, will be easier to discuss when you can see the method in action.

Pickles, you’re just acting abusive, so i’ll report your post. Problem solved, this isn’t a personal attack, you’re just a forum troll.

Next time i’ll just video tape it for the armchair players to see the issue. I’m a capable player, this isn’t an issue that can be resolved with “l2p”.

This player was able to avoid damage entirely and prevent the cap for way too long. That’s my opinion, if you’re a thief, you’re gonna defend it simply because you like doing it. I can understand that. From a game design issue, it allows a player to act without counter. This is wrong.

1.) I didn’t play WoW
2.) I’m not upset
3.) this is a logical discussion.

HIt him with my hammer adrenaline ability and lost him. You may disagree, but using 1 resource to tie up 20 or more. seems a bit excessive

The mesmer thing is not relevant to the discussion, imho that is a bug.

You’re being defensive as a thief, I can understand that.

SuburbanLion.8095:

I’ve seen this also. Twice. The thief doing this was from Henge of Denravi, but I couldn’t quite make out the guild tag. I did a “/bug” report the second time, so hopefully someone at a-net will have a look at this.

Yeah. That’s the server I saw a player doing it on, I know his name and guild tag, just not saying it to keep the topic civil.

Yeah Picklez, that’s the question, in theory that’s a bug, you shouldn’t be able to prevent a cap when not visible. (imho)

I’d like to hear ArenaNet’s take on the mechanic.

We couldn’t kill the thief or get him out of stealth, he was effective with hit/run and stealth while maintaining the cap. He just gave up and left after a while.

We had a single thief almost perma stealthed (which is normal from what I hear) prevent 20 players from capping a supply camp. The cap prevention included when he was stealthed (circle was full red until he left).

So this is a question first and foremost. Can thiefs normally prevent a cap while in stealth?

I fail to see why Arena Net just doesn’t pair the night active servers with other night active servers… Guess when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

Also I should note:

30 in Tactics with 9% crit on adrenaline , Signets recharge faster and the 10% movment speed buff in combat.

Should read Discipline

Edit: Also I see no feasible way to hit “100 % crit” with your stat allocation. Can you elaborate?

Dared.6578:

I have come up with a really nice build both Gearwise and Traitwise.

I solo most champions in the game that are not bosses , I have no problem taking on 10+ 80 mobs. And I am running mostly solo in WvWvW and have on several occasions beaten 3 or 4 players solo, only having problem finishing them there because of the downed state though.

Weapon of Choice , Dual Axes main set , Hammer , GreatSword or Sword Warhorn as offhand weapons.

Traits ,
10 in Strenght for Berserkers Power , 12% extra damage on full adrenaline
30 in Defense with Stance Duration 25% , Turtles Defense(200+ Toughness on slow, stun and immo) and Defy Pain.
30 in Tactics with 9% crit on adrenaline , Signets recharge faster and the 10% movment speed buff in combat.

Utility Skills , Healing Signet , Balanced Stance(for pvp) or (Signet of Might for Pve) , Charge , Frenzy , Signet of Rage.

Gearing , I have went for Power , Precision , Thougness. With 10 Allstat Runes for PVE , And Rune of Lyssa for PVP.

In my Accesoires I have swapped out the gems for Power Crit Precison gems, as This slot is the best to go for CritDamage in , you trade 5 Stats for 1 CritDamage here , instead of the weapons where you trade 13 or 14 stat point for 1 critdamage.

Sigils I use Superior Sigil of Blood(33% chance on crit for 450 HP, 2 sec cooldown) , and Accurary(5% critchance).

Offset Sigils are Sigil of perception( Gives 250 Precision fully stacked) and Hydromance Sigil (Aoe Chill on Weaponswap)

Consumable Omnoberry Pie (66% on crit to heal for 350 and 70 precision)

What this Build gives me is on full adrenaline 350 something HP a sec on AVG. I have around 2300 Toughness ,2000 power , 20k HP and Almost 100% crit chance and 48%(98) CritDamage in PVP and 60%(110) in Pve.

The healing on attack is really good with axes, when you pop your Spin you wil attack 15 times in a shorttime, against 2 targets that is 30 hits.. on avg 7k HP back from Food consumable and maybe 1500 from weapon sigil.

Also Axes Main attack is really strong in PVP , it does around 85% of Hundredsblades damage in the same time , but you can move while using it. I typicall fight in WvWvW would look something like Charge in to Group of enemies , POP Frenzy and Signet of Rage at the Same time , Now you Have ALL boons in game from Lyssa Runes plus Frenzy , Whack Away with Axes

After Boons run out , Pop Stability keep pounding on them , if you get low on HP time to pop Axe Spin , if not all are dead now and you get down to 25% hp to proc Defy Pain , Swap for Warhorn Sword , Use Swiftness slow removal and Leap out of combat , then Charge away from opponents to wait for Signet of Rage cooldown and Frenzy

sadly for me the Downed state exist otherwise I would be an unstoppable killing machine in WvWvW

I like this build, but you should know about the bug with Lyssa and your elite:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Lyssa

“BUG : The 6th effect will remove any Stability gained from your elite skill and will replace it with a 5 second buff instead.”

Fun night, even small groups were more interesting when the action is so focused. Probably one of the most fun nights I have had in WvW yet. As stated, the week’s only begun.

Don’t run with people who only stack precision/power and crit damage + traits that only increase damage. I have run most of the explorables, and although sometimes hard (and sometimes buggy) they get easier as we get more familiar with them.

I run a defensive spec as well, my guildmate is full damage. Although they seem to die a bit more than me, the difference in damage is double. I always assume that healing shouts + boons + being able to do more damage over time balances out… I am 4/6 exotic cleric armor, 2 rare cleric. (I run pirate runes for the time being + jewelry for MF)

SoS

(tenchar)

Well, tonight’s foray into true long term WvW combat was exciting. Apparently our opposing server is comprised entirely of Fire Elemental bosses.

The amount of skill and organization of our opposing team vs my server’s utter lack of teamwork (with a dash of “Thanks Anet for making grouping expensive or impossible”) has made the only sane decision to transfer off.

I don’t really follow how our server is ranked so high when we’ve consistently lost the last two weeks worth of matches. We were great during beta, but well, guilds left and the pop changed.

In closing, I leave you with this screenshot http://i.imgur.com/fJHVf.jpg and hope Arena Net will take the time to actually see the differences in WvW vs. using an obviously imperfect scoring system to rate each server.

He who gets the siege weapon count right in the screenshot wins a cookie.

I had to recover my password today but never received the email which contained the serial (or I lost it, who knows.)

I went to NCSoft’s site and recovered my password through there, changed my Guild Wars 1 password which is linked to GW2 and viola, I am in.

Hope this helps someone, didn’t expect any support response over the matter.