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GW2 is Fun-Centric, not Reward-Centric

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Reward-based progression is fun and it is also a very big part of Guild Wars 2! Here’s a cool experiment: go into WvW with a level 1 character and fight enemy players and NPCs. Now, level that character to 80, give him full skills and traits along with a set of exotic gear that synergizes with those skills and traits, and try WvW again. Did you feel a lot stronger the second time? That’s progression! Your character progressed through the game and was rewarded, with new skills and loot!

I understand there are a few people who don’t like reward-based gameplay, but there are mmo’s without RPG progression mechanics, such as minecraft and second life

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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Anyone tested this since today’s patch went in? I haven’t been doing a lot of salvaging

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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This would be handy information if verified. You have a source for this?

Yeah I’d like to see one too – I’m not saying it’s definitely worth using master’s salvage kits on whites, but when I do use master’s kits on whites I seem to be getting around 25% return on T6 materials, and mystic salvage kits return much less than that

Also, using basic salvage kits on 70+ yellows will give you an ecto much more than 10% of the time

masters’ kits are supposed to be identical to mystic kits as far as performance goes, regardless

Mystic Salvage kit says 25% rare yield, actual yield seems much lower

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I’ve read that black lion kits actually have much higher than their listed10% rare yield but I haven’t tested it personally

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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I think there’s a typo on the Mystic Salvage Kit. On the store it says a certain amount, but on the item itself it only says 10%…unless they’ve changed that in the past week or so. I reported it through the ingame reporter, but I keep forgetting to post it here.

Suffice it to say, I was rather unhappy having bought one when it said “get the best amount of rare materials possible” only to have it arrive and say that it gave a 10% chance of getting rare materials. I need ecto dangnabbit.

That’s the black lion kit, not the mystic salvage kit. I’ve heard that the black lion kit actually has a much higher rare salvage rate than listed but I haven’t tested it myself

Mystic Salvage kit says 25% rare yield, actual yield seems much lower

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My theory is that when salvage kits refer to ‘rare’ materials they mean one tier higher than normal. So salvaging a 70-79(80?) item normally gives you mithril/silk, but if the salvage kit procs the ‘rare’ material then you get orichalcum/gossamer instead.

Yeah, pretty much; I’m not sure if there are “rare” materials from lower level equipment, it doesn’t really become super important until 70+ when the “rare” mats can sell for 10-20x what the normal mats are worth

It has nothing to do with the color of the item

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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I’m pretty sure I was getting ~25% gossamer/orichalcum with master’s salvage kits, though, even with white items. They both list a 25% rare material yield but mystic kits definitely seem to fall short of that

I just tested this with 25 level 80 white rifles, 8 of 25 salvages with a master’s salvage kit yielded orichalcum or ancient wood. Tiny sample size but that seems about right

Mystic Salvage kit says 25% rare yield, actual yield seems much lower

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https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/crafting/Mystic-salvage-kit-less-than-25-rare-salvage/first#post81409

After a few hundred salvages by several people the mystic salvage kit appears to be bugged – it claims 25% rare salvage in the text but yields much less. The other 25% salvage kit, the master’s salvage kit, appears to give rare materials at the correct rate. It’s impossible to be certain since we’re just testing against a probability but I think this merits attention

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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Gossamer and ori are rares now? O_o How are they different from copper ore and jute?

Gossamer and Orichalcum make level 80 exotics, Silk and Mithril make level 80 rares

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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I’m pretty sure I was getting ~25% gossamer/orichalcum with master’s salvage kits, though, even with white items. They both list a 25% rare material yield but mystic kits definitely seem to fall short of that

Vials of Powerful Blood (Lv 80 Exoctic Material)

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The trolls in the crevice near Jormag’s claw would be pretty good farming, they’re all level 80 and all melee so it’s easy to corral them and AE, I say “would” because they’re pretty heavily camped most of the time

Black lion vs mystic salvage kit

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Also my experience is that the mystic salvage kits actually give less than 25% rare materials, while master’s salvage kits give 25%. I haven’t used a black lion kit yet, I’ve heard they actually give 100% rare material yield but that’s just hearsay

I haven’t tested this exhaustively, it’s totally possible that mystic salvage kits are giving 25% as intended and I’m just having bad salvage luck, but there’s definitely some innacurate text somewhere – black lion kits are supposed to be the best, but according to their text they’re actually worse than master’s salvage kits

Black lion vs mystic salvage kit

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ectos definitely occur more often than the stated percentage no matter which salvage kit you use

my theory is that you actually roll for ectos 3 times, which is would explain why you get 0-3 ectos and why you get at least 1 a lot of the time

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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That’s why I’d like to hear from other people who use the mystic salvage kits – if other people are getting 25% or more rares per 70+ salvage then I’ve just been unlucky and there’s no problem

what are your experiences using the mystic salvage kits, does 25% gossamer and orichalcum from 70+ fabric and metal salvage sound correct?

Armor Inspecting

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Everybody should be able to inspect everybody, I’ve never understood the desire for “privacy” when it comes to equipment. If someone is inspecting me it probably means I look cool and/or am a good player that others want to emulate

Power/Armor/Vit Armor Insignias are uncraftable

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You can also get power/toughness/vit exotics by cashing in tokens from WvW, Sorrows Embrace explorable and something else explorable

Mystic salvage kit - less than 25% rare salvage?

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After ~150 uses of a mystic salvage kit (250 use 80% upgrade salvage/25% rare material salvage kit from the mystic forge) I feel like I’m getting a lot less than 25% rare yield.

Obviously that’s not a very big sample size and I haven’t even been recording most of that, but I just went 22 salvages without a single rare and I really haven’t been getting many rares compared to when I was using the vendor-bought 25% kits. Have other people had this experience or am I just having an unlucky streak?

(everything salvaged was 70+, obv)

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