Guild Wars 2

Impact.2780:

This might matter if there weren’t just as many players in diamond – even legendary – that are just as bad as those in emerald/sapphire. Complaining about divisions vs divisions in matchmaking is moot. The real problem matchmaking faces lies much deeper, or, as ability rises, in the availability and population of players of similar ability.

It does matter at the start of the season as TCG & Rank 55 premades, then a couple of decent players who always premade as well reach Diamond before anyone else.

Anyway – It’s not about whether it truly matters or not. It’s about the fact that ArenaNet have made this same mistake 3 times now within the last couple of years. I personally don’t care as I doubt I will ever log on again after the 24th May but I guess I felt like I had to point it out.

It’s not working correctly as you can see. It stacks Diamond vs. Ruby…

When are you going to not screw up?

Taobella.6597:

do remember if they where ruby in that game happens to to rank up at end of the game it say they where diamond not ruby.

Nope – They were all Diamond before this. 100%

Saiyan.1704:

Pretty sure that Diamond player is Duoing with a Ruby player…

You can see that nobody is queueing together…

lossofmotivation.3407:

Well well… look at this, matchmaking working as intended?

It’s understandable though.

You are 2+2+1 vs. 1+1+1+1+1

The Diamonds are making up for the RUBY DUO x2 in your team.

Pedrobz.2908:

topics like that make me laugh.

“I want to reach legendary but when i do that i don’t want o play versus prestige 2 legendary until i reach that spot too.”

I don’t think you understand the thread. I couldn’t care less about playing against Diamond, Legendary or even Legendary Prestige 69 as it means nothing.

I can’t believe I have to explain it…

Okay – Let’s play SHARE THE JEWELS!

5 Diamonds, 5 Ruby
—-
1 Diamond for you
1 Diamond for me
1 Diamond for you
1 Diamond for me
1 Diamond for you
1 Ruby for me
1 Ruby for you
1 Ruby for me
1 Ruby for you
1 Ruby for me

instead ArenaNet did this…

5 Diamonds, 5 Ruby
—-
4 Diamond for you
1 Diamond for me
4 Ruby for me
1 Ruby for you

I don’t think you are understanding…

It should be 3 Diamond & 2 Ruby vs. 2 Diamond & 3 Ruby? Why would it put 4 Diamond against 4 Ruby? It would make no sense to do that.

1+1+1+1+1
4 Diamond, 1 Ruby
vs.
1+1+1+1+1
1 Diamond, 4 Ruby

How could this be possible?

…I don’t think I need to say much more.

Edit: It wasn’t the only game which looked like this. I had TWO others within the same few hours which I didn’t care enough to screenshot.

I don’t blame her for doing this but GW2, Hearthstone & Overwatch? Boring.

I only enjoyed her stream when she played Blade & Soul but of course, she realised that it wasn’t casual as kitten and decided to give up while making excuses that you need to PvE too much etc. I can confirm, you do not.

Why is there no SoloQ? It’s what we want, that’s why.

ArenaNet will give us whatever they want, which is often failed systems.

Now that I think about it, this post from ANet just annoys me even more. How can they not realise that the mixed queue will never ever ever ever ever kittening work in this game.

Who cares – It’ll never work without a seperate Solo & Team queue anyway.

Arctarius.2649:

In my opinion the best solution is this.. Make the pvp seasons much MUCH longer than they currently are.

Look at it this way.. By the time players settle into their tier of gameplay and are finally getting frequent match ups with other players of those skill… The season will reset, resetting their medals and causing this same cycle again and again. That to me is frustrating. Two month seasons are far too short, we need at least half a year or even a year for seasons to actually settle into the system correctly. Yes it will require the wait for those that rushed, but hell it will be worth it when everyone reaches the divisions they belong in.

I agree – ArenaNet need to respond on this now because they really need to lengthen each season starting now.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

its been 4 days, do you wanna be in legendary in a week? i rather not have to play with people outside my division than having longer Q times. if your going to be match or group with people outside your division that then whats the point of having league.

It works fine like that in SC2 & CS:GO.

Izanagi.9830:

StickerHappy.8052:

Gav.1425:

Give it some time.

Yes it’s quite broken, but new stuff usually always is.

Go play PvP like you always have done and ignore pips until they fix this system.

#YesWeNeedSoloQ

It’s not leagues.

It’s matchmaking and MMR system, which are 3 years old.

actually you are wrong , the matchmaking system 1 1/2 years ago was much better , we also had solo arena and team arena.

the problem was the decay was broken and didnt work well and the top teams were afraid to lose ranking on the team arena leaderboards and stopped playing or played only 1 game a day. the queue times raised for team arena and people had to wait 30min+ , then they did start crying and arenanet merged solo and team arena and removed the popular solo arena and changed the matchmaking system worse.

This.

It is amazing how far backwards ArenaNet have gone that nearly 2 years ago we had something working well apart from a decay issue which could have been solved easily.

Crinn.7864:

What did you expect Anet to do? Magically summon high-division players out of thin air?

Not to be so strict on who you can play from other divisions? I was Sapphire, and there was many who were playing in Emerald queueing at the times I was.

It’s okay – I forgot I was playing Guild Wars 2 where everybody must reach things at the same time.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Queue Times and Division Matchmaking
As Evan Lesh mentioned on reddit matchmaking rating and division standing are both used equally for matchmaking. This is currently affecting both queue times and matchmaking, especially in higher divisions. The season has only been active for three days, so there are fewer players in the higher tiers, meaning less people for matchmaking in those divisions. This will correct itself as the season progresses and players begin spreading through the divisions more evenly. Related to the point above, tanking MMR for the purposes of easier matches isn’t feasible considering division still plays a large part in the matches you get.

Basically – You can’t play Ranked until people catch up to you.

Morwath.9817:

Nova Stiker.8396:

speedbox.1473:

This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

Except we’re not.

Indeed. Not everyone in Sapphire is “farmer” or “esl premade”, some of us was just playing soloQ and actualy got there due to our own effort, flexibility and simply by not throwing…

Exactly – It was expected though.

I finally got a pop after 1 hour and 53 minutes.

I have been in queue alone for 1 hour & 37 minutes now.

I can wait 10 minutes but even that is too long although after what I have endured today, I am grateful for even 15 minute waits. I just can’t take these 20-40+ minute waits everytime.

It needs to be dealt with as soon as possible, like in the next few days because I literally can’t play due to it and I know a couple of people who are also having long queues, not insane like mine though.

Okay – You win ANet. I can’t deal with these 30 minute queues everytime any longer.

brannigan.9831:

If you were smart you wouldnt be grindning a broken system 5+ hours a day. Who cares where anyone is ranked.

I shouldn’t be playing the game? Oh…

I got several matches and won most but now I am back with 40 minute queues…

Edit: A response from ANet would be useful here. It’s getting ridiculous…

Once you get to Sapphire – You can’t farm throughout the night because it’s nearly impossible to get matches. I just needed to clear that up for the jealous and kittened people in some of the previous posts.

Okay – It took 2-3 hours but I finally got a match. I lost it as the game was decided before it even began due to them having regulars and I had 3 unknowns. I gave it all I had though, but it was impossible…

2-3 Hours? / 1 Match / -1 Pip

I don’t even know what to say anymore…

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

perhaps its time you join the others and start lowering your MMR as well?

does this mean division is taken into account when queuing ?

I think so.

philheat.3956:

Collero.7963:

It’s happening to Frae, Argi & myself on EU too.

It’s a bug I guess. Just re-queue…

Edit: Nevermind. We’ve been into a 20 minute queue, into another 20 min queue, into 10 min queue, into…don’t know yet. We can’t get a match…

At least they’re 4 and in Na prime time.

You go in queue at 4-5am Eu in trio queue with high mmrpeople and u are complaining to not get a fast queue?

Srsly?

Sorry I didn’t know I should be pleased about only getting 1 match in the last 3 hours of us non-stop queueing.

I just want at least 1 match every hour.

It’s happening to Frae, Argi & myself on EU too.

It’s a bug I guess. Just re-queue…

Edit: Nevermind. We’ve been into a 20 minute queue, into another 20 min queue, into 10 min queue, into…don’t know yet. We can’t get a match…

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Helseth just lost 2 pips for winning a game on his stream (because they had a player DC and won 4v5). LOL.

I can confirm this. LOL.

ANET – You going to ignore this too?

Helseth lost 2 pips for losing to FULL ORNG PREMADE as 2+1+1+1…

ANET? Really?

I got placed against More Guns Than Roses, Car Crashed then Car Crashed again within 2 hours at peak time. I was queueing solo and had a few randoms on my team each time.

Thanks ANET – I can’t believe you get paid for what you do.

What I don’t understand is that ANET are obviously trying to force premades but don’t seem to realise that GW2 is a CASUAL game, the majority of people don’t want to . They won’t premade, they will just stop playing the game (or sPvP) altogether.

Alekt.5803:

So the team qualifiying to attempt to replace a team in Pro League will probably consist of pips farmer? Amazing.

Yep. One of the EU teams who are TOP 3 at the moment were farming solo players throughout the night.

No.1 of EU at the moment farmed Solo/Duo’s all night.

THIS IS HOW YOU GET INTO PRO LEAGUE BOIS!

Division 1 have nothing to lose so expect players to not give a kitten and troll about causing you to lose pips if you are Division 2+

It’s 4am in EU at the moment and there is a team farming solo players all night. These are average players who would have no chance in Pro League yet they are getting free wins over and over again for hours now. Rank (Division) like everything else to ‘measure skill’ that you’ve ever added means nothing once again.

Is this actually what you wanted ANet?

I’d love an answer, thing is, I don’t think you have an answer other than ‘We have no idea what we are doing’ and that’s why there are literally no responses to any thread lately.

Funny thing is, balance isn’t even close to being the biggest problem of sPvP

What a kittening pointless leaderboard.

Do I really need to say much else?

Sorry, I guess I should be happy about entering solo then going against 3 FULL PRO LEAGUES TEAMS.

and AGAINST CAR CRASH AGAIN as SOLO.

ANet – So, how does it feel to be absolutely kittening useless at everything?

I am queueing alone and I got FULL ‘More Guns Than Roses’ then FULL ‘Car Crashed’ – LOL

Not only that, but I had to deal with 2 completely unknown players on my team in both matches.

WELL kittenING DONE ANET.

I hope you guys realise how bad this is for Ranked.

It will force so many players to play classes that they aren’t familiar with at all causing matches to be absolutely awful.

ANet are actually unbelievable…

A couple of people told me it’s more than 2 classes that you’ll need to play.

Does anyone know?

trytonianYeti.4389:

Too bad Justin O’Dell left Anet earlier this year to work for Amazon.

He seemed like the only ANet developer that knew what they were saying when it came to sPvP. I guess they haven’t replaced him yet and that’s why there is zero kittens given about matchmaking etc.

RIP

Quadox.7834:

You could even keep it as one “ranked” button if you want, just force 5 parties ALWAYS go against 5, and solos+duos go against eachother.

If you try to queue with 3 or 4 players in party, send popup saying “You cannot queue in ranked with three or four players”.

This.

Is it really so hard to implement this? It’ll clearly make everything far kittening better…

Just don’t play the matches you don’t want to play like me.

Clearly ANet don’t give a kitten about the situation of nearly every match being a waste of time.

Edit: I just played against 3 different 5-man premades (one of them twice) in the last 5 games. It clearly does happen, so anyone doubting this needs to pipe down. It’s sad that in just under 2 hours of playing GW2 I haven’t had a chance to play the game.

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nacario.9417:

Yes, the better teams will be ontop in legendary league figthing against a few great teams, while good teams below or in legendary will have to make their way through the soloqfodder. Sometimes good soloquers will be banded together, but theyll always be at a disadvantage.

This is EXACTLY how it’ll be.

I wonder why ArenaNet are not responding to anything…

Can they not admit to making bad decisions more than 80% of the time with everything they do regarding sPvP?

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Everything else could be perfect, but as long as solo/duo queue isn’t separate from 3-5 man premade queue, the game’s pvp will continue to be a complete joke.

Exactly.