Guild Wars 2

Tao.1234:

Just a question:
- If PvP is so much horrible, then what about this official HoT release poster?

It claims a great growth.

And great growth means pleased and happy players.

I will copy and paste from my original post.

“Popularity? I don’t think it has grown at all in sPvP. It had more players trying out sPvP due to F2P and there being no PvE/WvW content for over 6-12 months? I guarantee most of those players tried out sPvP and didn’t bother with it again after a few days for reasons I listed above.”

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Balance has actually gotten much better with every patch. Also, there is no bunker meta.

I won’t even bother explaining to you why you are so wrong.

zELEVENz.6937:

Collero.7963:

than upcoming “Premade vs. Solo/Duo” league system.

I haven’t been following the announcements on leagues as I lost interest in spvp after most of the changes you mentioned, has it really been confirmed that a specific queue for solo/duo is coming or am I misinterpreting what you said?

No – I was just trying to point out that the Ranked queue will end up like that.

It has been nearly a year since SoloQ & TeamQ were removed and GW2 sPvP hasn’t progressed at all.

- SoloQ & TeamQ was far superior to Unranked & Ranked arenas. SoloQ & TeamQ leaderboards weren’t even that bad, far better than the pathetic leaderboards we had earlier this year and will probably be better than the upcoming “Premade vs. Solo/Duo” league system. SoloQ was amazing for sPvP and would of been even better now since you added map voting to avoid Skyhammer. I don’t understand why ArenaNet would want to force premades in their CASUAL game.

- The new ‘Bunker’ meta is awful causing 15 minute games which is by far the worst or at least most boring meta to either play or watch since the release of GW2. I don’t even want to go into the low skill required to play certain builds in this meta.

- Balance has definitely not improved at all over the past year, I mean look at the D/D Ele era that we had. It was left for so long even though everybody agreed it was the most broken build in sPvP at the time. Mesmer, Rampage & Fire/Air was nerfed during that period but not D/D Ele, I wonder why…? Hmm.

- Queues are as bad as they were with SoloQ & TeamQ except now we can’t even queue outside HOTM. It’s horrible, and no wonder GW2 has such a embarrasing Twitch viewer count. Most people don’t want to watch Helseth, Nos or whoever dance around in HOTM for 9 minutes before every match they get.

- BUGS! I don’t think we’ve seen more bugs like we have now in at least a couple of years. I won’t be too harsh on this subject as Heart of Thorns was released only a few weeks ago and it is expected from ArenaNet.

- Popularity? I don’t think it has grown at all in sPvP. It had more players trying out sPvP due to F2P and there being no PvE/WvW content for over 6-12 months? I guarantee most of those players tried out sPvP and didn’t bother with it again after a few days for reasons I listed above.

- Visibility has gotten so much worse since the release of Heart of Thorns. What’s that? Traps? Wells? Overload? It’s impossible to see what is going on most of the time.

What do you have to show for all this? WTS, Pro League & Go4GW2? Congratulations, you’ve paid The Abjured, TCG, Rank 55 & ORNG/CM players. Is that worth ignoring the majority and making sPvP the miserable and depressing place that it is? I don’t think so. kitten off with the eSports is what I am trying to say.

I would extend on this further but I don’t feel like it as it’ll achieve nothing.

- Collero

Ironcloud.3892:

I hate when people dismiss issues by just saying “play for fun”. People wouldn’t be going out of there way to complain about the infrastructure of the game that they’ve been playing for years if they didn’t find the combat to be the least bit enjoyable.

The point is that it would be much more fun and engaging if the systems had better, fairer matchmaking and gave a stronger sense of prestige.

This.

I can’t even be bothered to explain to people who are like ‘The reason is to have fun’ – It’s such a ‘I play 2 matches a month’ response…

What? They still haven’t fixed this…?

LOL

SlayerSixx.5763:

This is something big for anet though. I mean sure, they could still make money off of future PvE expacs, but if they succeed at this leagues thing, you could actually see something becoming of GW2.

It will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever succeed without SoloQ

style.6173:

I am happy to see that leagues will not start for another month. Hopefully it gives them time to:

1. Fix some balance issues. Let’s be honest. One week ago was a major overhaul and the start of balance is poor right now.
2. Fix matchmaking. Matchmaking has been getting worse as time goes on. It really needs a fix.
3. Leagues. They need to answer two major questions: How to ensure moving up in leagues isn’t just a grinding exercise AND how to ensure that solo players also can move up. As everyone knows, it is a lot easier to win matches as a team vs as a solo player.

If I could actually believe they’d do these things then I would be fine with it but come on, EVERYONE knows that they will fail at everything you listed.

Maylo.5892:

Soul.9280:

Please bring back soloq. If not, you’ll drive away those people who don’t have a team,

Already happened. Just saying.

This.

ANet have already lost so many players but they don’t give a kitten…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/the-road-ahead-for-2015/

Soul.9280:

The past few days most matches have been the same, my team is a bunch of PUGs, the other is a premade. My team loses. It’s getting to the point where if you can’t bring your own team you might as well stop playing.

Please bring back soloq. If not, you’ll drive away those people who don’t have a team,

This.

also…SoloQ with a ‘League’ system would absolutely blow away ‘Pro League’ in what it can do for GW2 at the moment.

What the kitten is this?

Edit: Don’t worry though, only another month of having no reason to sPvP – Just WvW in that time, the challenge being to find another player in the new running simulation maps.

Edit 2: https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/the-road-ahead-for-2015

When do leagues start?

I have been getting client crashes for a couple of months now, at least once every 4 hours I am playing GW2.

Of course, I can play every other game ever without any problems, but that’s GW2 for you.

I guarantee the awful matchmaking has forced more people out of sPvP or GW2 than any type of balance issue.

BUT WHO CARES? Just give out $400,000 to 0.01% of the sPvP players and forget about everything else.

It’s starting to get real boring getting 9 unrecognizable players nearly every game. Can you please implement the Ranked MMR (or any MMR at all) as it feels like there is none right now.

I wouldn’t look forward to leagues – You will be disappointed.

It’s going to be a disaster with premades farming solo and duo players. It’s okay though guys, we have ‘Pro League’ – Let’s give 30 players some cash and ignore the 100s if not 1000s who wanted a Solo Arena.

Is there even any MMR in Unranked? None of these matches make any sense compared to Ranked which actually seemed decent since you fixed that bug.

I haven’t spoke to one person yet (most of them being higher-tiered players on EU) who aren’t miserable as kitten with sPvP. It’s not just the poor balance, it’s the fact that there is still kitten all reason to sPvP and when leagues come, it’ll be even more depressing with the amount of premades farming solo or duo players.

Isn’t there just so much to look forward to in GW2. /sarcasm

I don’t know why people seem to think that queues are faster now than they were before the changes. I have longer queues now than I ever did in SoloQ & TeamQ – I was ‘Top 20ish’ in both of those too so MMR wasn’t the issue.

SoloQ was the BEST thing to happen to GW2 sPvP – It’s a fact.

It won’t come back though and that’s why GW2 will forever fail.

Chapell.1346:

Didn’t had a chance to watch the live stream cos of my crappy internet connection,is there any chance they going to upload a VoD of the finals,where i can watch this marvelous thief rotation you guys talking about? Maybe on youtube.
TBH i am currently having difficulties rotating and +1 fights post patch. Just wanted to seek some knowledge.

Oh and gz NA representative.

Watch Toker then compare it to Sindrener. It’s like the PERFECT comparison between how to play Thief and how not to.

It’s all a waste of time if they are going to keep the current queue system. It will never work the way it is now.

Solo/DuoQ & Team/GuildQ needs to happen – JUST DO IT!

I noticed it a month ago – I could of reported it as a bug but nah.

SoloQ was amazing compared to what we have now.

I have said it a million times before but the main problems that nearly everyone couldn’t stand about SoloQ was 4v5 and Skyhammer. They dealt with both those issues but at the same time, they removed SoloQ.

It really was the day that ANet shown how clueless they can be. Ranked & Unranked replacing SoloQ & TeamQ was the biggest mistake ANet has made to sPvP since release.

I doubt we will be seeing any Leaderboards to do with Ranked Arena ever again.

We’ll forever be playing for no reason at all.

They said they were going to fix this over 2 years ago.

It’s not happening – Sorry.

Celtus.8456:

You guys aren’t playing the game correctly— see Aurora_Peachy’s stream. The correct way to play Gw2 is to idle dance in Lion’s Arch and buy kitten from the gem store.

^

Celtus.8456:

Collero.7963:

Just to make you guys feel worse, I doubt there will be any kind of balance update til after WTS now. There is no way they’ll change anything 2 weeks before because WTS is so important and by important, I mean an embarrasing joke that should of never happened.

It is hard to be supportive of WTS in light of everything else that has happened. Beginning of December 2014: Removal of Leaderboards (ok testing grindboard w/e), removal of Solo Queue, forced to queue inside Heart of the Mist, and first WTS tournament final in Beijing. That tournament for me coincides with the ruin of PvP.

Now we’re going into our 3rd WTS in this broken system, and haven’t seen any real increase in popularity for PvP, or in twitch viewership (which I think is resulting at least somewhat from the December changes). It is putting the cart way before the horse, or putting the kid on stage at the talent show and he forgot to wear clothes.

Anyway, I hope your prediction of balance delay is wrong, but I have learned well to be disappointed after over 10 years as a Guild Wars player.

I couldn’t of said it any better. Hopefully, the WTS in August will be the last one for a couple of years.

Evenna.2519:

I don’t understand, Chill was the least of everyone s concern. Why change the max cap on it? Why give Chilling darkness an ICD? Where did the post go that complained about how OP Chill was? Cause I havent seen it.

Are they just looking to nerf reaper prior to it coming out? So odd that a specialization gets nerf before its release…

That’s how ANet like to do it.

It’s like all the threads on wanting a ‘Premades vs. Solos’ arena. Remember? No – Me niether.

Just to make you guys feel worse, I doubt there will be any kind of balance update til after WTS now. There is no way they’ll change anything 2 weeks before because WTS is so important and by important, I mean an embarrasing joke that should of never happened.

Ferik.3127:

Do we have a large enough playerbase to do that, is my question
Also, what about the queue time?

No – Definitely not.

Queue times are already extremely painful at the moment.

apart from Mesmer & Rampage, I don’t see any problem with the outgoing damage at the moment. It’s far more fun to play this way…

ArenaNet

That’s all.

I don’t blame him. It was painful to watch him put effort into a game where the developers couldn’t give a flying kitten.

Sorry but ArenaNet don’t deserve any sort of praise. I honestly don’t know what they do all day but all I see is a group of untalented individuals who have no passion for GW2. I could be wrong about this, but I don’t believe I am.

It truly went wrong when you removed SoloQ & TeamQ – What were you thinking? Honestly.

- Collero & “Top EU Players” who can’t be bothered to post anymore which I fully understand.

I don’t know why I made this thread like you are going to care or sort it out etc.

Why is it that I have no lag at all except in some matches where I will have a constant 2-3 second delay?

I know others who are experiencing this as well. Honestly, are the PvP servers really that bad?

Lordrosicky.5813:

Chaith.8256:

Josh Davis.6015:

Thanks for writing up your concerns so succinctly.

This test season is intended to test an algorithm that’s tailored towards ranking players higher for better W/L ratios, in addition to using points gained from playing (meaning games played does not become valueless). The algorithm we’re using this time around is completely different than what was previously tested, and they both have different purposes. We’re already having internal discussions on how we can adjust this season’s algorithm to better suit the goals we stated on Thursday – rewarding players who play well, not just play. These discussions will continue into the next week, and now we have an entire weekend’s worth of data that we can look at and extrapolate on.

An important thing to keep in mind is that these events are tests, and the only thing we’re testing right now is the formula behind ranking. We’re gathering a lot of useful data that we can use to help us make better decisions. These “test seasons” not a final product by stretch of the imagination.

That’s great to hear.

It’s my hope that the next test season will be very different in the means in which you progress through the leaderboards.

Very different, along the lines of:

• An improved version, based on the original leaderboards.
• With normalized volatility, perhaps a sensible cap on how much leaderboard progress can be gained/lost from a single win.
• Permanent decay penalty being applied if a threshold of minimum games a week is not met.

It isn’t good to hear really though is it.

This.

I don’t play actively anymore but even I think that is an awful thing to hear. It’s pointless to sugarcoat it.

Hopefully by 2017, we’ll have something that isn’t a ‘Test Season’ although it’ll probably be scrapped and something worse will replace it.

It pains me every time I see a decent post like this because I know that ArenaNet doesn’t give a flying kitten about what you or any other player has to say and will continue to do what they think is right, which is often always the wrong thing.

I don’t really play anymore but I can see that nothing has changed. I don’t know what the kitten ArenaNet have been doing over the last few months.

It’s truly disgusting.

I haven’t been active like at all for 5-6 weeks and I am wondering what exactly happened to the Leaderboards? I thought they were improving them? I see nothing has changed and I don’t really see any discussion about them.

What’s going on?

Edit: I’d understand if ArenaNet were working on it from scratch but they aren’t…

I had a feeling that this would be the case so I didn’t play more than a few games during the last 16 hours. You can’t trust ArenaNet.

I had the exact same idea in another thread. It is the BEST SOLUTION to most of the problems at the moment with Ranked & Unranked Arena.

Leeto, I know you have a case of what I like to call, the Vingador virus. Something that stops you from becoming anything above average no matter how much you play. There are very few players who suffer from this but I hope you get through it.

ArenaNet are giving you a chance Leeto. It’s your time to shine!