Guild Wars 2

A crew with solid leadership. They will provide you an excellent environment to thrive in T2.

Hello Fergal,
Contact me in-game or send me a PM @ forthetoast.com for assistance with such matters. Valid for anyone else having a similar issue.

Standing United STUN is a one year old WvW guild, initially formed of the cores of Rethesis RE and Herlathing TWH. Since our inception, our home has been Tarnished Coast, do check our official recruitment thread for information on our World-wide WvW community.
STanding UNited runs mostly untagged and focuses on open-field encounters between guild groups averaging 15 to 30 players. We’re also participating in Obsidian Sanctum scrims every now and then and one of the goals of this post is to attract players interested in helping us create a solid and constant GvG core.

Currently, we are mostly recruiting GWEN, with an emphasis on Necromancers, yet we are also seeking to trial sound Mesmers who would enjoy a role in our gank squad.

Our schedule consists of 5 weekly raids between 12:00 – 3:00 AM Server Time, that is 8:00 PM – 11:00 PM EST or 5:00 PM – 8:00 PM PST. Sunday and Tuesday are our off-days and guild missions are usually completed on Sundays.
Our only requirements, representation & attendance wise, are for our members to sport our tag and join us during our prime time, both on the map and in coms, should they be online.
Additionally, you must be willing to experiment with builds from time to time, especially @ GvG.

Should you wish to be offered a trial, apply online at www.standing-united.com. You may also contact Famine.6548, Thallus.5392, SrxLiz.3175, Khanate.3641 or Dalloway.9853.

One of Tarnished Coast’s most cunning squads, veterans of countless Outnumbered encounters @ T1 Oceanic. Voom voom!

A quick note.
Tarnished Coast is interested equally in individual players and guilds for late NA and early and late SEA. We actually find ourselves in a good spot, Commander-wise, but we lack manpower by comparison with our awesome competitors. If you are searching for a new home, our already existing crews in said time zones will be happy to add you to their tight-knit cores.

For the Toast!

P.S. Thank you zhonnika.

IRE are a former Tarnished Coast crew we miss a lot around here. A pity Tier 1 had no appeal for them. If you’re over there and want to be part of an Oceanic crew though, you’d be missing out if you wouldn’t join Leo Solidor’s outfit!

Belated thank you, Natronix!
Jeff, we will get to it, eventually. Surtout, pas trop de zèle, after all.

Tarnished Coast continues to urge all players and guilds focusing on the 5-9 PM PST time slot to look elsewhere, the queues will persist and, at the end of the day, these will hurt both your crew and our community.

That said, we welcome off-hours WvWvW players and guilds, be they Oceanic, SEA or EU, Tarnished Coast has yet to see genuine queues in any of these time zones and their arrival is our best bet against further NA additions.

A special note concerning our Mandarin-speaking community.
While Tarnished Coast’s Mandarin-speaking WvWvW players are split across a few other guilds as well (Awe, INVC, and, especially, NYS), our latest crack SEA team, Ni Hao My Friend [Hi], which is comprised of main land Chinese, Singaporeans and Taiwanese, is particularly interested in offering such players a home. Hi currently raids 5-6 days a week, 6 to 9 AM PST, as a zerg-busting crew, and is also interested in the GvG scene. Having already watched them successfully solve quite a number of situations against all odds, I really hope to see them become a landmark guild for Mandarin-speaking players from all over.

Zombie Coast fighting!

Hey Kronos,

I would have played on an NA World simply because Tarnished Coast is NA, yet, as a European player, I also understand very well and share the issues you have with EU Worlds. And I would actually counsel you to choose Tarnished Coast, seeing as it would solve all the problems you talk of. We currently have two crews running precisely between 8pm – 1am GMT (12pm – 5pm PST) among whom you would feel at home. Or as home as one may feel when led either by a shrewd Brit or a cunning Dutchman, veteran players who have been commanding in Tier 1 and 2 for well over a year.

Drop by and get to know the Tarnished Coast community and, check the Helioz [HEL] recruitment thread. For specifics on our second crew, Kazoku [Kazo], you may get in touch with me, either by sending me a PM here or whispering me in-game.

At the moment, Tarnished Coast welcomes all off-hours players in anticipation of Season 2, be they Oceanic, SEA or EU. In spite of the fact that Tarnished Coast is a genuine melting pot nowadays and despite it having a solid, veteran WvWvW core in each of these time zones, there is no danger of queues during these intervals and we enjoy the privilege of being challenged by mighty adversaries throughout the day.

Take care mister and good luck to you wherever you may end up!

Hey you,

Replying to your last inquiry. You will find a lot of information in Tarnished Coast’s official recruitment thread. I would also suggest you drop by our community forums, there are a great many players who choose to make an account simply to get to know us before coming over.

Further, there are quite a few very WvWvW-focused guilds currently recruiting on TC aside from Hammered’s awesome DN, it would be quite impossible to not find a home.

We thank you so much, we know what it meant to say it and we are deeply regretful that our ascension took place as the Sanctum fell, even more so seeing as we had no particular ambitions to climb. Now that we did, all we can do is break into this place guns blazing.

Hey you,

Look, I am aware my answer is not exactly the one you want, seeing as Tarnished Coast is just now firmly setting itself up in Tier 1, but there’s something I really liked about your post, so I just had to reply.

There are lots of skirmishes going on during late EU (12 PM – 3 PM EST) in our match-ups. In fact, if we were still in Tier 2, I would’ve said Tarnished Coast was the perfect place for you both. Currently, there is an increase in zerg activity during the time zone, especially from Blackgate, but the place is very lively with roamers and havocs as well. As for NA prime time, well, Tier 1 is what it is, though Tarnished Coast roams and havocs tons during NA, we have more than a dozen guilds specifically dedicated to it during the time zone, ranging from very casual to very frightening. We do not ask our chaps to get on the tag if they don’t wish to unless there’s an imminent danger to one of our T3 structures, and you would find our commanders make the effort to coordinate with havocs and that we are grateful for any contribution as long as people remain communicative, either on Mumble or map chat. Tarnished Coast is known for its militia, an asset we are always trying to harness to its full potential and that led to a very distinct culture on our World.

Think on it and drop by chez forthetoast, particularly the guild recruitment section (though there are a few other small-scale guilds I would strongly recommend that do not have a recruitment thread up currently), and our own official recruitment thread on these forums (some of the latest answers give a good account about the state of roaming on Tarnished Coast).

Good luck wherever you will end up.

As its spot here solidifies, Tarnished Coast welcomes all players who wish to join us in building a ferocious, fearless, fierce yet friendly Tier 1 World.

Leaving Tier 2 behind after nigh-on a year engenders a certain sadness, particularly knowing that it means Fort Aspenwood and us will be parting ways. We thank you for having been such a resourceful rival through good and bad; your headstrong community will be missed by many on Zombie Coast. Kudos FA!
By the by, few knew and even fewer remember now the spark that ignited our arch-feud, thus here’s a memento of those times – it also constitutes the origin of our infamous dolyak parades.

Ah, a fellow traveler. You’ve reached a safe port. For what my opinion is worth, having played WoW for 8 years myself, having constantly raided in high-end guilds and having attained AM and led a team to RBG HotA, I can tell you from personal experience that this game is the perfect choice once you decide you have to break out of the hardcore mentality. No more hours upon hours of analyzing World of Logs graphs and mathematical formulas, no more theorycrafting away lost miliseconds, no more fine tuning dozens of macros for scores of keybinds, no more having to head-hunt like crazy and constantly pruning your guild roster and teams of players who can’t keep up simply to remain in the 0.5% crowd. All this while enjoying the only combat system whose fluidity is comparable to WoW’s and reliving a bit of the 2005-2006 world PvP experience while roaming on the borderlands.

And, as you can see, Tarnished Coast was my pick as well. Similarly to WoW RP-PvP realms such as DB EU, the RP population represents the tiniest of factions and is confined to a couple of hotspots, while the inclusiveness and live-and-let-live mentality promoted by it are the draws that ensure the World thrives as it receives a constant stream of solid, mature PvP (WvWvW) players tired of the #yoloswag culture prevalent pretty much everywhere else and who are in this game for the long-haul. In fact, from my personal observations, Tarnished Coast is pretty much the only World where the WvWvW core established in the first months of the game is still out in force and doing most of the work. It’s very probable and my bet that, as GW2 will slowly begin to die out in the future, Tarnished Coast will be the last World to experience any sort of fallout.

As Ayjay noted, FUNK are a superb addition to our late NA. Their scouts raided with STUN before their transfer and we have since coordinated and joined them on numerous occasions, we would all vouch for their proficiency and cheerful demeanor to a man. Tarnished Coast lucked out with this crew.

I see nothing wrong with their announcement. It’s cogent and polite, and they’ve received clear and concise answers in reply. This is how every thread in this section should work, I can only wish them good luck wherever they will settle.

Welcome back to the game mister!

Hmm, if I understand you correctly, you’re looking for a rock-solid havoc group which can gather around 15 players during NA prime time pretty regularly. Just off the top of my head, on Tarnished Coast some of your best bets would be NAGA, ESP, FLUX, DIS, PiNK, FUNK, with half a dozen others that may not reach these numbers routinely.
Check out the Guild Recruitment section on fortheToast and our own recruitment thread here to get a wider picture.

Your only issue may be that, even though we haven’t seen them since Leagues, we cannot promise you we won’t call on Blackgate and Jade Quarry every once in a while in the future. Nonetheless, Tarnished Coast NA is quite free of queues outside reset.

Hope this helps, good luck with your search!

Mortis Umbra are nowadays as tough as they were when they initially departed Tarnished Coast to visit the lower tiers, at the very least. For us in STUN, it’s a pleasure to see their open-field prowess as we take turns charging into swarms.

If you’re looking for a highly optimized, individual performance-focused zerg-busting crew part of a healthy and stable 24/7 WvWvW community, MU is probably the best choice T2 has to offer.

From what I’ve seen in my brief encounters with Stylo and his latest recruits, Meat is indeed an outfit full of potential for experienced roamers.
But you have to let everyone take a peak at your blue-haired meatshield’s skirmishes if you want to quickly convince them of how good your gang is at getting stuff done Stylo! Show off some of those recordings you’re letting us watch at fortheToast!

One of our most responsive emergency crews during Oceanic.
Not to mention the epic STUN-TF roaming squads raiding until the break of dawn.
And Lydia Voleur.

Karuna was pretty comprehensive, but just to go into a bit of detail in what your second question is concerned:

Elixir.2169:

Also are there solid roaming guilds on TC?

I would say a great many 24/7, but it also depends upon the distinction between roaming and havoc. During Oceanic and SEA, all of our prominent guilds are basically glorified havocs of ~15 players and the situation often asks for them to split into roaming groups, and there are NA insomniacs from larger guilds like STUN who roam lots during Oceanic too. EU is another good time zone because lots of NA players belonging to large, hardcore WvWvW guilds log in early and roam together whenever there’s no large threat to answer to. During NA proper, they group up for prime time, but we have Cult, YOHO and TUNE, which I think would fit your definition of ‘serious roaming guild’ very well. And then we have havoc guilds (~10 players) such as DIS, FLUX and a handful of others whose numbers dwindle as the evening goes on and players in larger guilds who are assigned to scouting and roaming (NOPE has a particularly good roaming party I always found to be a pleasure to work with).
Hope that helps.

Though I think we’re both on most days, I’m cursed to always be on the wrong map.
And I don’t seem to be bumping into your chaps enough! If they’re as level-headed and savvy as you are on the forums, I reserve a party spot outside NA prime time whenever you get out of those bloody EB to roam the borderlands!

#STUNapproved!

One of those guilds one wants to be paired with on Reset night, and that’s aside from Ruq being a solid commander who knows how to communicate in CComs!
DIS has been on Tarnished Coast through thick and thin and their willingness to shoulder the burdens of organizing our community made them a genuine asset. If you’re looking to check out Tier 2, Tarnished Coast is the place to be and Dissentient are the ones you’d want to show you the ropes.

Actually sad to read of your World’s situation, do not ask for whom the bell tolls and all that jazz sigh…
To answer your bullet points:

1- a server that has a Good EU crew | Tarnished Coast’s EU has recently reorganized around one of our commanders and is now holding its own in this tier.
2- a server that has commanders willing to take over | It’s actually one of Tarnished Coast’s strengths, which is further enhanced by a simple reality: our most active and efficient commanders have been here for over a year. They’re people you can count on.
3- a server that doesn’t have a massive ocx/sea crew | Our Oceanic is small and are fighting fiercely against superior numbers from SoS and FA. Our SEA is more numerous than Oceanic and usually successful against SoS’ larger SEA population in the absence of added pressure from FA.
4- T4+ server | Tarnished Coast has been in Tier 2 for almost a year. We’re solid, the World is kept in this position by a genuine WvWvW community and not by a mere pack of guilds which may come and go as they please, and we don’t lose our heads when bandwagons bring on the heat; in fact, we overcame more than a couple now.

You can find us on forthetoast.com.
Take care now, good luck wherever you’ll end up!

The real deal Karuna!

Stumbled a bit late on this, but, for what it’s worth, aside from being a cornerstone of the Tarnished Coast community, one can always count on ESP to have one’s back in WvWvW. A strong guild on a perfectly sound World participating in the most competitive NA Tier. You’re missing out.

o/ Acerox!
Wish I was able to raid during SEA more sigh.

My troubles aside, if you do raid during SEA, INVC is a solid choice. Tarnished Coast SEA learned to prevail against quite a few challenges in the past 9 months, as off-hour Worlds like Dragonbrand, Jade Quarry and Sea of Sorrows brought on the heat. This means that we nowadays have tough zerg-busting teams running during that time zone, and INVC is one of them.

Chris: STUN appeared to be running ~30 late last night and ZzZz running a hair above 20.

Seeing as I am in STUN and I know last night’s supply count, STUN and ZzZz did not have more than 40 guild players put together during their entire time on SoSBL.
But here we arrive at the heart of the problem:

Chris: I actually classify 25 as a large zerg, particularly when it’s all one guild.
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While there is a tendency to over-inflate enemy numbers, you do get first hand knowledge of some things: 1. Their strong times and weak times 2. Non PuG coverage and at which times 3. The focus and personality of many guilds
Sometimes these observations tend to coagulate into broader statements about the servers as a whole; which most mature individuals realize are not entirely true (usually done for brevity, rather than singling out exceptions).

People who employ widely used concepts and words while giving them their own private definition. For example, countries placing the words Democratic Republic before their names, while being under single-party rule. Or, easier to grasp for you over the pond, the word freedom, used by both libertarians and liberals in their speeches while describing completely different lifestyles. But you can’t help yourself, so I’ll continue to cut you down to size every now and then. E.g. since you’re quoting from gw2wvw.net now:

Chrisie the match-up pundit last week: Actually our long term goal has been to dominate tier 2. As for our growth… let’s just say that life just got a lot tougher for The rest of tier 2.
Chrisie the match-up pundit this week: We definitely do not want to stack anymore. We’re already worried at what effect EotM will have on existing matchups so it’s not in our interest to just crush T2.

Chrisie the match-up pundit during the TC/SoS/SBI match-up: It’s a well known fact that TC does not have “Euro Wrath.”
Chrisie the match-up pundit during the current match-up: TC still has good EU (they even have a guild called “EU”).

Oh and, when our less articulate players call SoS a blobby community carried by PvD, please take your own advice above and be mature enough to not correct them, they’re only thinking of your Oceanic and are doing it for brevity.

Ta

Luvpie: Enough of this smoke/mirror kitten.

That’s what I said! It wasn’t so hard, was it? You’re not a bad chap Luvpie, you just need to be gently taken by the hand and walked back through the logic of your own assertions, just like mister Chris the match-up pundit here below.

I hope we didn’t ruin your good cheer Chrisie old boy, you do seem a tad grumpier.

Chris: I do hope any of the people who have been complaining at least heard about, if not took part in; TC’s push on SoS in early OCX/very late NA. Two large zergs from ZzZz and STUN, plus about 2 other small groups (PINK and some other guys) just went nuts. Any idiot who thinks/thought TC was over with can take one look at that and know that this match is going til Friday afternoon.
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Tarnished Coast is running more small ops than they have previously and are quite organized about taking bloodlust before a major push. Some of the biggest fights between TC and SoS have occurred with no bloodlust for SoS. I’d be surprised if it hasn’t been the same when they push FA.

Ah, further testimonies of synchronized behavior from this pitifully coordinated Tarnished Coast you describe below. These facts man, you keep inviting them to dance and they just don’t listen to you no matter how long you try to spin them.

Chris: Their (TC) internal coordination is pitiful at the moment.
It’s hardly a secret that the only thing holding TC back is disorganization and lack of coordination

Oh Chris, I did try to convince you Tarnished Coast’s community is not weak or disorganized from my first post in this thread:

Hmm, you are talking about the only T2 World that was capable of coordinated overtime and day-long pushes, resulting in the only successful comebacks in Tier 2 since Season 1. All Worlds have room from improvement, but to state TC’s problem is coordination, by comparison with SoS and FA, is a genuinely droll thing to say. Link

Alas, you just kept beating that dead horse.
And yes, I heard about it. In fact, if you yourself were there for STUN’s uncoordinated-with-ZzZz-and-the-PiNK-and-TORK-havoc-groups-late-NA-strikes, I hope you enjoyed the two-three hours your Garrison WP was constantly contested and the hecatomb your yaks were put through and the supply you wasted from your already starved out Garrison on stealth traps, with my compliments. And I was there earlier to help our uncoordinated militia hold our Garrison against the separate SoS and FA attempts made during that rugby match the yanks had going yesterday. And before that, for that other uncoordinated thrust initiated in late SEA and EU by EU and friends that was the first to reduce to kindling the T3 SoSBL on Sunday and took down FA’s Garrison. And previously to this, I was there for the uncoordinated multipronged assault on the T3 Hills in TCBL during Oceanic, when MoM’s havoc built up the Golems while fending off GWAM’s, TS & CB’s pushes all over TCBL, TF’s havoc came in to drive potential scouts off the east side of the map and EU provided the initial distraction at the southern gate and stopped early reinforcements on the bridge, before we ported them up to help us take care of the SoS zerg that finally zoned in when the waypoint opened.

Comrades, brothers and sisters, with hindsight, it’s almost as if these Sunday maneuvers were a dedicated community effort O.o
On the other hand, we know from Chris the match-up pundit’s previously mentioned research that Tarnished Coast is an uncoordinated mess, so that’s that.

All right, this is getting a bit too serious, fact which in itself contains tragicomic elements.
Luvpie, first of all, let me apologize for the way my comments seem to have inflated spirits, please put it on my lack of forum ‘experience’, so to speak. I do sometimes read the forums, but I have never posted before. I may also employ words or expressions which are more straightforward without recognizing all the implications those have for native English speakers, I am Romanian and, obviously, this is not my native language.
Second of all, and the thing which should’ve been the preamble to my initial post: congratulations on winning the January 25 – February 01 match-up to you and Sea of Sorrows, you won it fair and square! As I actually wrote in the second part of my first post, we’re glad to see SoS in shipshape.

Obviously, I understand that, given the common thread derailments and accusations you speak of, my main points seemed, not to put too fine a point on it, a pretext to you, and I suppose this is why you jumped straight to what you thought was my pet peeve. But I ask you to read below, as I will try to better explain the issue I saw.

Servers were supposed to paint a accurate picture of what their servers need and then target those areas with recruitment. Would people post about other servers’ population and guilds to misinform the forums or purely make assumptions?. Yes. Should you care? kitten no.
Is FA the underdog of T3 in terms of coverage. Yes. What do they need? Talk to FA.

See, that’s the thing right there, you didn’t talk solely about SoS and asked the ‘servers’, i.e. TC and FA, to speak for themselves, you wrote a topic where you gave your own assessments as to where those Worlds are and made recommendations as to where guilds looking to transfer should be headed. And then, of course, there was Chris, who, without dallying, jumped at the opportunity to describe how TC is only stopped from winning the match-up by its “pitiful” lack of coordination. Nevermind his sartorial proclivities in tailoring a ‘researched’ coverage for T1 and T2 and T3. So, I now gather you are confirming that he is seeking to misinform ‘the forums’, as you stated in the quote above.

You mention that we care too much about what’s being said here, though you two were the ones who said it. Please, put yourself in our shoes for just a bit. TC’s posters do not initiate these debates. Yet now, a thread appears, a thread which you started, where transfer recommendations are made by SoS players, recommendations which directly affect TC and half of the NA Worlds. And yet, you’re writing above that we shouldn’t care enough to even post our opinions on the recommendations currently made by you and Chris for all the Worlds involved, nor should we seek to correct what has been said about our realm by you and Chris O.o

This cognitive dissonance would not pass for a fair-minded answer anywhere, though I honestly believe you are sincerely trying to be unbiased.

EDIT: A very good post by Super Kruegs, I agree with it almost entirely, aside from the allegation that we’re upset about not being on top of T2. A pity I cannot link to a few of my older posts on the TC World forums where I openly stated it will be great for us to be the underdogs of this tier. The ruckus on this page was caused solely by what I perceived to be intentionally misleading information concerning TC’s WvW community and I again apologize for coming off as brusque.

Not at all Natronix, please do not misunderstand. TC is very much able to compete, the match-ups show it.

Now, and there’s a bit of inherent sarcasm here, do not confuse TC with SBI in terms of fairweathers, the vastly different results of both Worlds tell the story. We have our own, as any other World, but nowadays probably less than the rest of T2 and T3, aside from Maguuma. You haven’t ever seen TC give up yet and we have the backbone to not use this excuse, so overused by worlds like SoR and SBI; no matter what you think of TC posters, you haven’t seen any of them write that it’s pointless to fight for it and the World never went through the meltdowns SBI, FA or SoR suffered. You can’t argue about facts, that is, things which are actually one way or the other.

FA has some great guild groups but is now hurting in off-hours. The statement that they have good EU is utter tripe too.
I scoff at the FA EU comments because TC heavily dominated EU until very early NA, until we got ZoD and messed with the math.
Let’s address the number one problem facing TC and wrapping both points together. The almost ancient rivalry with FA is now dragging you down. The hostility shown towards the idea of FA gaining numbers is not helping either. With their gains from FEAR and IoJ, a large number FA don’t get the rivalry. They were focusing you the last few weeks because you were leading.
Yet now, you guys are permanently bivouacked on their BL, perpetuating the rivalry and making things easier for SoS; while you complain about coverage differences.

As a chap who is actually on during EU, I can tell you for certain that the BOMB & HOPE map zerg showed up every evening on TCBL after 8:05 UCT, like clockwork. Until and including the January 11-18 match-up, they would cause FA to tick higher than TC in EU, paper everything that could be papered and prepare FA for NA. This can be easily fact-checked. During the January 18-25 match-up, EU consolidated itself as a guild and was then able to counter FA EU during the first days of last week; moreover, BOMB largely gave up on its EU prime time at the end of January, and that’s according to its own leaders.
As to why we have turned their Borderlands Red in the past few days, it’s not by choice. According to your own statements, FA has a long tradition of playing for second; I think you’d agree this to be even more so when TC is their direct rival for that spot, so, for now, we cannot simply engage STUN & NOPE during the whole NA in breaking the 3 fully sieged T3 Keeps on your Borderlands, gifted to you by your off-hour population, while ticking below 200, especially knowing they will be back to T3 status as soon as we go to sleep. That would simply allow FA to consolidate its Borderlands to T3 as well, while our Keeps, papered by SoS Oceanic and SEA, would remain the only playground for easy PPT. Having FA double team SoS just for TC to win the match-up is not likely for now, no matter the on-paper assessments of armchair strategists the world over.

TC is indeed much smaller than it was in their “T1.5” days. The fact that we match or outnumber you in every time-zone is also not in contention.

Good, thank you Chris, so we do agree that TC is the underdog and is actually keeping up neck-in-neck with SoS with fewer players and even while having to deal with a generally more hostile third World, FA. That’s all I wanted you lot to admit, we enjoy these match-ups very much, but the attitude some of you chaps adopt is a disappointment.
There were no complaints, I merely engaged in a rebuttal of your ‘anti-TC tirades’, to paraphrase you, tirades which I quoted in my first two posts in this thread, where you were attempting to pass for a fact that TC’s reason for losing ground in front of SoS is the lack of coordination of its superior numbers. I am glad you now refuted that malicious statement.
There arises the question as to why SoS cannot distance itself from this poorly coordinated TC when it matches or outnumbers TC in all time-zones, as per your own post.

Perhaps one day you’ll gather the honesty to admit that, by comparison with Sea of Sorrows, there’s nothing less right about Tarnished Coast and that your World has no advantage over us in terms of coordination and skill-level; after all, everything points in the opposite direction right now.

As to Fort Aspenwood needing to be propped up:

FA has some great skill groups, but they need to make sure that they can translate that into battlefield success so they don’t become T2’s SoR or Maguuma. (They are very coordinated right now so I don’t think that’s going to happen.)
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We have close to balance in T2 (FA needs a nudge more).
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Yes, SEA guilds please consider FA.

Look, Chris, I understand that it is beneficial for SoS to prevent organized groups from transferring to TC by misdirecting them towards FA. Thus I will let the readers decide how many guilds must that World swallow before FA’s impotent community can overcome its lack of coordination and resilience to finally dominate T2. FA porked out on large chunks of the Silver League during Season 1. According to its own players, it then had 4 guilds transfer and 3 guilds return during the last week of the season as well. Since, a constant stream of people and guilds continued to further consolidate them, culminating in SoR’s FEAR and RETribution coming on board, two really good guilds which can hold a Borderland on their own. FA had by far the largest NA in T2 until last week, its inability to capitalize on it speaks volumes. During EU, their BOMB map-hopping zerg, often augmented by quite a few HOPE members, secures the time zone, while Meow, GWAM and so on allow them to stay in second place during Oceanic, just below SoS. This is the well-coordinated World that needs more transfers? O.o

Of course SoS is the World that lucks out and is unintentionally making the most out of the situation. Its very, very large OCX builds its Borderlands to T3 while PvDing everything else to paper, its very large SEA holds on to it while continuing the map-hopping in search of PvD, it’s EU gets a pass because FA’s BOMB&HOPE map-hoppers logically choose to stay away from PvDing its T3 Keeps and focus TC’s paper ones. Add the old, beautiful & bitter TC-FA arch-rivalry across all time zones, and the above was enough to ensure they would always have a real chance at being number two in this match-up – and they were. Last week, of course, they received an influx of medium to large to very large NA guilds from all over the place to complete the process that began when EP left TC to come help their NA. What’s the tally of medium to large (15-40+) NA guilds on SoS now? EP, CNB, Rx, REND, EPIC, Fang, DIE, One, All, GH, ZoD etc. etc. etc. The reason SoS is still struggling to defeat TC is not population or guilds however, it is precisely the lack of coordination and open-field know-how you are trying to accuse us of.

EDIT: And this was Coverage: State of Fort Aspenwood and Sea of Sorrows.

We’re fond of the SoS community, love fighting them, we welcome their ambition to win these match-ups, but stop condescending and distorting the issues. TC was always a comparatively gracious and polite World with its adversaries, the sort of spin you are trying now is in poor taste.

Oi, Luvpie, I’m sure we all appreciate your stated intentions, but, T2 wise, the thread has devolved from the very beginning into the commonly perpetuated myths. You’re welcome to put me right, I’ll try to address T2 balance in general in a couple of posts, sticking to facts.
The framing your friend Chris is attempting seems a good starting point.

TC has the population but they have a lot of PvX and their internal coordination is pitiful at the moment.
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TC Is distinguishing itself well right now. They are hounding the bloodlust to try and keep up with stomps and are fighting hard. They are a well-matched adversary for us and with better coordination we’d be evenly matched.

Hmm, you are talking about the only T2 World that was capable of coordinated overtime and day-long pushes, resulting in the only successful comebacks in Tier 2 since Season 1. All Worlds have room from improvement, but to state TC’s problem is coordination, by comparison with SoS and FA, is a genuinely droll thing to say.

TC’s main problems are now being outnumbered player for player and overwhelmed guild for guild by the other T2 Worlds. Just before Season 1 began, it lost a large SEA guild (WvW) to JQ and a medium NA guild (ZN) to BG. During the first two weeks of Season 1, it lost 3 medium to large guilds, 2 NA and the only medium Oceanic it had: EP to SoS, RoT to SBI and KH to Maguuma. It has since lost a medium zerg-busting team to SBI, namely EXS. There were a few other, less prominent transfers. TC has only 2 (two) NA guilds consistently fielding over 15 players on all Borderlands outside Reset, and those are STUN (20-35) and NOPE (15-25?). CERN is usually pinned in EBG, given its offshoots and its members supplementing the numbers of the other WvW guilds outside Reset, there’s only so much it can do. The rest are nowadays small to medium havoc groups whose commanders gather up the militia during emergencies. Latest CERN off-shoot, EU, is now struggling to gather the numbers to counter FA’s larger EU population. Oceanic is tiny, with the small havoc run by MoM gathering the few militia online to repel the huge SoS Oceanic PvDoor. SEA is somewhat better, with small to medium guilds (~15) like ZzZz, Awe, INVC and FIST doing their best to hold EBG and hunt the much larger SoS SEA map-hopping zergs.

EDIT: In case it escapes anyone, this was Coverage: State of Tarnished Coast

Zombie Coast is also one of the few Worlds that keep the promises made to their adversaries, you need not look farther than the past three months to convince yourselves of this.

At the moment, the World is in a perfect position for a recruitment drive. All time zones have a good core of veteran Zombies any transferred guild would find it a pleasure to work with and who ensure one feels part of a lively community, while, at the same time, even NA would need 3-4 decently sized guilds before hitting genuine queues outside Reset. It’s worth coming over if only to see what a healthy WvWvW community looks like outside of the lag-ridden Tier 1.