Guild Wars 2

Manasa Devi.7958:

Why are people so scared to accept that other people have other likes and dislikes? Insecurity?

They need to bash other people in order to feed their tiny ego.
You can see this kind of behavior all over the internet.

After a few test on PvP golem, I think it’s just tool tip showing wrong numbers. The damage does increase.
Haven’t test it in WvW and PvE though, maybe later.

Sarahfull.4930:

Hey, imagine how I felt, I just got back into the game about 2 weeks ago to find my sword had changed >:

I know your pain buddy. Get back to your favorite game only to find out that nothing is the same. Happened to me once at Ragnarok online.

Me and my guildmate ditched ranger sword since the change applied. I was forced to change my build, but nothing can give me the same feeling of good old sword #1.
There’s nothing we can do about it. You can either adapt or find other ways.

The most funny thing is that sword #1 dps become lower because of the new (awful) animation. How ironic.

I will be very happy if I can choose to use the old sword #1. But sadly Anet just slap the new boring auto attack in your face, and tell whoever that don’t like the change to deal with it.

When the change came out, it seems like almost everyone have burst down in the tear of joy and shiver in the excitement as if witnessed a miracle. Players on the forum and Reddit, be it Ranger or not, were all chanting, “Our prayers have finally been answered!” “Praise Anet! PRAISE ANET!”. Although there were some others opinions appeared, they were either ignored or downvoted into eternal hell. On this glorious day, no heresy would be allowed.

And then, there was silence. Nothing changed. Life went on like the very day didn’t even exist. You would think that it must life changing if every single one around you acted like the god have descended. Yet a drama is just, well, a drama.

Months go by, only few people, like OP, remembers what the most unique auto attack in GW2 feels like. But alas, what we’ve lost will be lost forever. The Guild Wars 2 would end long before the sword #1 redeem its former self.

Fortunately this is only a computer game. Not to play will always be an option.

I have been using variation of stealth trapper build since I discovered the trapper rune. So much fun.

Artaz.3819:

Or just have the Grandmaster Trait Light on Your Feet remove the flanking requirement altogether on Crossfire. That would seem much simpler and be a minor tweak.

Although I think this is a good idea, it seems to be a little boring.
I’d say how about strengthen skills even more, if it hit directly on back?
Like these:
Front
Side
Back

1.Crossfire
Direct dmg
+bleed(3s)
+2 bleed(3s)

2.Poison Volley
Poison
+5*1 vulner(10s)
+5*2 vulner(10s)

3.Quick Shot
Swift
+cripple(3s)
+cripple(5s) +super speed(3s)

4. Crippling Shot
Cripple+bleed
+more cripple
+Immo(2s) +more cripple

5.Concussion Shot
Daze
+Stun
+Stun +Confuse (8s)

Just some quick thought though. I think it would make shortbow style more active, and more viable in pve.
Or it could be only good on paper. :P

Edit. Sorry I don’t know how to form

Is it true TheFantasticGman.9451? Did anyone test it? It’ll be a shame if this is the case lol.

I main an Asura ranger and the new sword AA animation makes me burst in tears. I tried to get used to it, tried to find something good in the change. Sadly, no. I still cry in agony whenever I’m using that ugly AA chain. The animation looks fine if staying stationary, but if I start moving… God, the horror. I can almost here my beloved Asura yelling in a mix of anger, pain, and fear.
No matter how I feel, I’m still forced to adapt. Just like my little hero in the game forced to do that sword swing which would definitely break its arm. All I can do now is name my pet “Rip sword Aa”, although none of my pets can ever remember it.
I used to love my sword, but not anymore. Not anymore.

I really feel sad about this… The most unique AA chain will be gone forever.I wish we could choose from the old and the new one, but that’s just impossible.

But if they buff the damage of GS and make Sword a condi weapon it would be acceptable.

Because a weapon is unpopular and underused it should be removed? What kind of logic is that?
By that logic we should get rid of rangers once and for all. No one likes rangers anyway.

Seriously though, Longbow and Shortbow are different types of weapon just like some comments mentioned before. Although there aren’t really a term “Shortbow”, which we can say it was created by GW2 devs, the usage of a big Longbow and other shorter bows are still not the same. I don’t know why people assume there are just one type of bow.

And even if shortbow is not the “best” option, it doesn’t mean that no one use, or love this weapon. Some rangers use shortbow in pvp, and it’s a very viable option for condi ranger. The statement that OP made is like "I don’t like shortbow. You all shortbow lovers should just go kitten yourself. " and this kind of opinions would never be acceptable.

God, how could I even miss this?
Sign me up please.

Why everyone says the stealthy sniper elite “fit more for thief”? Isn’t the elite spec aim for providing different play style?
Anyway, I think the Magic Archer that StickerHappy mentioned would be a great idea. Scepter/Focus with conjured bow maybe?

I bought DD: Dark Arisen as well. It’s truly an amazing game.
But the sad part is, ranger (or druid) in GW2 is more like a mage in DD. A healer buff bot.

Matt Stacey.7415:

I know things have definitely gotten off topic…but I absolutely find solace in the fact that a lot of people share the same discomfort. I should have made a poll :P

Do it!
I’d love to see how will it go.

People say that Druid is only an option, guess what?
You want to do fractals? Better slot Druid.
You want to do PVPs? Better slot Druid.
You want to do WVWs? Better slot Druid.
You want to do raids? Druid or GTFO.

It’s still a strait up upgrade, and many people are not happy about it.
I even got laughed at for not willing to slot Druid. This is ridiculous.

Tragic Positive.9356:

I feel confused.
What happened here?

School vacation happened.

I named my sylvari hound Chinese Salad.
No I’m not waisis.

Marksmanship: Free blast finisher
Skirmishing: Not so terrible traps
Wilderness Survival: Poison Master
Nature Magic: I don’t want to use druid today
Beast Mastery: Free quickness
Druid: Prema swiftness

I still can’t believe the Honed Axes change.
Do they even know what’s wrong with this trait?

As an Asian player who came to GW2 in order to escape from Korean MMOs, these comments makes me giggle.
Maybe the grass of your neighbor is always greener.

And those who say that Anet treat their customers wrong have no idea how east Asia game companies treat their player lol.

As a new player after HoT, I was excited after reading the article.
Now I just hope I won’t go through the frustration people in comments have.

As a new player after HoT, I was excited after reading the article.
Now I just hope I won’t go through the frustration people in comments have.

Name : Mirage Missile
Server : Eredon Terrace
Type : PVE only

Can you prevent accidentally selecting ally when using left mouse button to target enemy?
I know I can target enemy by pressing TAB, but it’s difficult to target specific enemy when there are many mobs around. So is there any way, in game or add-on, to prevent this from happening?

@Tragic Positive
The warhorn part sounds great! Maybe I can even combine it with Entangle + Runes of the Mad king.
And about the longbow, does it work with fire trap? I suppose the finisher projectile mainly comes form rapid fire through any fire field, and it won’t need a long lasting fire field to get the job done.

What I mean without auto targeting is to select the target manually. If you use sword #1 chain without a target it will go through any enemy on “kick” and “pounce”. But I find it a bit unpractical in PVE situation. Although you get high mobility, the mob’s attack will still land on you anyway. Not to mention the DPS loss. Or I just need more practice?

@Tragic Positive

“Never say that something is impossible because there are still people who do not know it’s impossible and are making it happen even as we speak.”
This was what you said.

Yeah, I might have been overreacted. And the title isn’t quite right either. My apologies for that. It’s just a little frustrating that someone just jump out and say this isn’t going anywhere. It doesn’t mean it need no tweak even if I’m just “playing what I like”. I didn’t expect any magically super power build. I know there isn’t any. If I just want to play something easy and powerful I would have rerolled a revenant long time ago.
I think this argument can stop right here. It’s meaningless.

My goal here is to find out the best short bow build which don’t use ax or torch. I didn’t say the build you post is bad or anything.
And, besides, I don’t hate sword at all. Or, you can say, I actually like it. It’s just that I don’t know how to use it. (Spamming #1 don’t count.) People say if you want to use ranger sword you’d better not use auto targeting. But dagger skill would be very hard to land that way. Maybe you have some good advice?

Tragic Positive.9356:

That’s why I posted a build that does exactly that.
I’m sorry, but no one will ever make me acknowledge a 24/7 camping of 1 weapon without swapping it at all.

The link I posted uses the shortbow.

I really have no idea why you would argue over this.
I’m not going to use this build in the raid bro. I can and I will change my build when needed. I just want to enjoy the weapon I love when I play alone. And this is important to me since I play by myself 90% of the time. We can’t talk about a weapon build because that weapon is bad at DPSing? How does that make this topic invalid?
Before you call me a filthy casual scrub, I did get top tier gear and in TERA and every achievement in Bloodborne. Is that hardcore enough for you? I just don’t seek that kind of stuff in GW2.
Isn’t “play what you want” part of the charm of GW2? Maginobi have failed at this part over time. I don’t want Guild Wars 2 to walk on the same path.

@ice wizard
How many vulnerability can you get when using this build? Wonder if it works with Lb/Sb.

@Luche Lenardon
Hmm, the idea looks interesting. I have to rework my runes and sigils to make it work though.
The asura race skill Radiation Field is a poison field too, maybe they can make a good combo?

@Eval
About the Sigil of Air vs Strength, although the SoA is a great DPS boost, it’s flat and will be affect by toughness. The might from SoS can benefit every damage I done, but it’ll become worthless when someone can provide you 25 stack of might.
I would agree that sigil of air will be (a lot) better in dungeon. But which one would be better at somewhere like SW and HoT zone?

@Krispera
Wow, I’ve never thought about using a SB on zerk build. I’ve planned to get a set of berserker gear recently. And about the bleeding on LB. Sometimes I would grab a LB when doing world boss. I do notice that you can get decent amount of bleeding from those three skills combined.
I’ll give these options a shot and see how they’ll do.

@Eval
Thanks a lot for the math part. I was having a hard time deciding sigil. I tried to do some calculation but can’t come out any clear answer due to lack of knowledge about game mechanism.
It doesn’t matter that the build came out on a fly or not, since there aren’t any PvE short bow build out there. Your analysis are very valuable (to me).

@Tragic
About the A/T, I totally aware that they’re the superior option now. I just hope that I can push the weapon I love to the limit. I don’t know, maybe it’s some kind of passion. If I’m going to use A/T in first place I won’t even bother to open this thread. Thanks for your concern.

I really appreciate you guy’s replies. Asking for different suggestions seems to be the right decision. Hope I can make short bow viable with my build and skill one day.
People can dream, right?

AegisRunestone.8672:

This is why you must play asura (female specifically). I have never been annoyed with her voice quips.

Female asura’s voice are great! But there’s one thing keeps bugging me though.

Get knocked down “This is how amazing I am!”
Hmmm amazing what? Lying on the ground?

Eval.2371:

If i were asked to come up with something on the spot i’d run something like this.

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Omg… I didn’t realize Hidden Barb boost bleed damage. I thought it increase your damage done while suffer from bleeding. I feel so kittening dumb now.

OK back to the topic. It seems I forgot to mention I play solo 90% of the time. Is it possible to get permanent fury while solo? And what’s the pro’s and con’s between Sigil of Air/Sigil of Strength? Is it because bleeding doesn’t scale well so Sigil of Strength isn’t worth it?
And what is the GoE for? For team dps boost or does it boost condition damage as well?

As topic says, how do you maximize the performance of SB in PVE?
Here’s the build I currently used.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNQQJAVWnEqAlsgVsCusAUtgFDBDurOWTrNdgTQLgJAsuKdlMluA-ThCEABwpDIhnAgc7PUwhA4F1fE+CAAimAUVC2jyPAM/BA-e

High critical for more bleed. Permanent 33% speed bonus. Lots of condi cleanse and break stun. 45% bleed duration.
Mainly use #1 #2 #4 and Hawk f2 for sustain damage output, #5 and GoU for additional bleed and Immobilize. Entangle+Ruin of the Mad King for AoE direct and condition damage spike.

I have run this build for a while. It has high mobility and survivability, useful cc and sustain damage output in most situation.

But there’s still some problems,

1. I don’t know which side weapon to use. I don’t like ax and torch, so the staff seems to be the better option. I did tried sword/dagger, but you all know how awkward that weapon is. Is wielding two short bow to trigger the fury on weapon swap a good option?

2. I currently use full rampager’s because they’re cheap and easy to get. Should I go for Viper’s in the future? Or there are better options?

I’ve tried to make some various builds, but can’t come out anything good. I know short bow is one of the worst weapon in PVE right now, but I really love it and I’ll keep using it.

So, any suggestions?

I would really like a new shortbow.
The Dreamer looks so silly. I even thought it’s some silly gem store skin at first glance. But no, it’s a Legendary shortbow.
I don’t need a wepon that shoot unicorn and rainbow…