Guild Wars 2

We had today a depressing match with a guard in our team against three dhs on there team.

He was just staying at close and doing nothing. In mid match he just started to support the team but it was to late. here is the chat.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Dirame.8521:

This last point is wrong. All you need to do is watch any Legendary players stream on twitch to know that it is wrong.

The rest of the stuff you’ve got should definitely be considered but that last one…. nope. Just wrong.

After watching some streams, I believe those bad teammates are just trolling and losing on purpose. No one in Gold tier and above is clueless.

Some sure are on purpose because they are getting payed for it.

A thread here wich is deleted by anet showed screens how an esl player offered 200g to another player to leave the match.

There are still clueless scrubs in Gold. As example yesterday I had 2 in my team wich rushed to far after we butcherd 4 of the enemy in mid. Conclusion they died 2vs5.

The bad point is they ignored all the warnings in the chat.

Orangensaft.7139:

Hey there

While checking my current rank position in comparison to a friend on mine i noticed something strange

On the left side of the PvP League Panel it says:
Games Played: 45
Games Won: 30

When i check my position on the leaderboards though it says:
Wins: 29
Losses: 15

So on the left side it tells me i played 45 games total with 30 wins on the leaderboards to the right i only have 44 games played with 29 wins

My best guess is that 1 of my wins didnt count for the leaderboard for some reason
But i really dont remember having a dc or switching class during the match and being absent from match for too long then or anything like that

So does anyone have an idea what could have caused this?
Or is it just an UI bug that shows it wrong?

Thanks for help in advance

I made the same expirience yesterday. I had yesterday 4 wins 1 loose. Only 3 wins of them are shown on the Ladderboard. I locked on the match history and there I had 4 wins in ranked.
Today The same I hade 7 wins 1 Loose and again 1 is not shown in the Ladderboard but in history all are in ranked. I have 93 matches 52 wins, Ladderboard is showing 48 Wins 39 Loose (btw my loose is so high because I was before in bronze and had really creeping matchmakings, I am happy to be out of bronze).

Tomiyou.3790:

Shadowstep.6049:

Coinhead.7591:

Do you think that you get bad teams more often than your enemy? Do you have the worse team more than 50% of the time?

I do actually. Having team that doesn’t instantly wipe at mid is rare. Having team that doesn’t feed far is rare. Having team that doesn’t fight on roads all match is rare. Having team that actually defends points is extremely rare.

On other hand i get teammates that stomp clones, die to Svanir, let enemy decap points right in front of them, absolutely ignore map pings that indicate enemy movement and just run around on roads, don’t focus target, attempt to solo lord all match, thieves that attempt to 1v1 enemy ranger/scrapper on… enemy’s point etc.

I should start to record my matches and make potato compilation.

I don’t understand what you guys are doing, but I have a team that wipes instantly only in 1 of 20 matches. Gold 1 currently.

Its RNG Luck. Since two days i have nice matches. 15 matches 3 lost. The 3 matches I lost where close and I had my fun and nothing big to say, we fought we lost.

But before that I had horrible matches with 50% win loose because of afkers, non cappers, Trolls…..

I just hope I wont get Bad RNG Luck again and struggle with craps in PvP.

If i can maintain Platinum – I dont care. I am sure i can maintain Gold. Also there are ways to maintain Platinum/Legendaty wich I alredy wrote. But I dont care about the alt of my brother.

To be on topic again (The Best players are in Bronze). It can be really hard to get out of Bronze if your RNG Luck doenst like you.

I am currently in mid Silver and going higher. I am sure i will be in Gold soon when the RNG luck helps me.

I played this morning 2 solo q matches 1 win one loose, after the experiment I got my lession and played today with the same decent pvp friend who is in upper gold now with his main and we owned all matches. I got 25+ rankpoints (in soloq i only get 11-14 points) from ea match we won.

Before, when I was in Bronze I played with another Gold friend and we had a 50-50 win loose ratio while he lost -30 points ea loose and got +4 ea win. He dropped down to low Gold and eventually we stopped playing and he told me in the end: “Sry, I wont be a Silver player.”

Since everyone trying something out with there alts i did it too.

I borrowed the alt of my bro asked a decent pvp friend to play with me the initial 10 matches. He took his alt.

First match was a mess because I had the Default keys, but then we won.

But the experimenting didnt end there. Later a third friend of mine tried to sync with our matches. He managed to join with us 2 times.

• One with our team. That one was a massacre, we owned bad (Using also TS).
• The other one he was on the enemy team. There he trolled. He went to empty far and stayed on the side of the point not capping. He went to my side while I attakced the lord and just watched….. (Things like this i expirienced alote in Bronze, read my other posts, funny now i understand).

10 matches 7 wins 3 looses. I landed in low platinum, my friend in high gold.

This is it for me to argue in this forum. Bronze is hell if you have a bad RNG (Matchmaking) LUCK. I got my proof and I wish you all gl in Bronze.

Rolisteel.1375:

I decided to do an alt account and check the skill level of bronze players and if there are any that have understanding of the game and deserve to be higher than bronze. I really want to know whats going on.

You can work up your way. But its the hell, takes alote of time and frustrating. Currently iam in silver started in bronze with 835 points, because I messed up the initial matches playing Ranger to get 10 wins for the Backpiece. (I know its my fault but i wanted that backpiece and the 10 matches was the only thing i missed).

Iam playing now 5-10 matches with my main profession soloq, NO DUOq, because all of my decent friends are in gold-platinum. I am not saying that I am a legend player or even a platinum player, but its a pain to work yourself up because it depends on RNG Luck.

I will tell you how it works in the next season, so you can understand it.

Next season i will take in the initial 10 matches one of my decent friends and will Duoq with him. In every match i will pay gold for one of the other teammebers so he drops of the match. I will have my 10-0 wins and be in Legendary. There I will still paying enemies and will play every third day one match.

Anything else to add?

Edit: Ah just forgott. I will play at 5 am so i can play against ppl 300 points below me.
Edit2: AND then I will come to this very forum AND tell how bad the Bronze players are AND they deserve to be in Bronze AND they have no skills …..

NeXeD.3042:

At what point does any of that say an almost esl level player is stuck on bronze?

Just use a bit of your brain and you would find out why they are NOT stuck in bronze.

At least if there are a diversion of 200 points the rank4 and rank 10 shoudnt be in the same team, but they are probably having a DUO party, wich is making the DUO vs solo even more OP

NeXeD.3042:

STILLL WAITING FOR THAT ONE ALMOST ESL PLAYER THATS STUCK IN BRONZE

wikedtik.5681:

This is outrageous, this is pure blatant match manipulation and needs to be punished! a former ESL player and a current top 10 leaderboard player, paid another team member of mine 200g to D/C after I refused to, that way he does not losing rating. He is too scared to try to actually properly climb the leaderboards, and even with God of PvP Toker from Astral Authority/The Abjured and Wikedtik the only player besides Nos to be in The Abjured and Team PZ on his team, he refused to try to play the game! He paid him to DC so he doesn’t lose rating!! Match manipulation in its purest!!

• Edit: Original post was deleted by anet, I found the screens in Wartowerforum and putting in the links.
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Here is your answere!!!

Nila.7813:

Jeffiz (from Moob’s pro team that attended LAN Never LUcky) paid me to dc as well http://imgur.com/EqmmDai

And here is another one how things work!!!

Vykoz.7803:

I dont know what they are talking about with bronze hell etc either, sure you can get unlucky but in general, if youre above the skill level of your current division, you will slaughter your opponents like they cant play.

Qualifiers put me in top bronze, which was quite hilarious, i slaughtered so many people through bronze, silver, straight into gold, like they couldnt play. (that was in a day and on thief luls)

People complaining about being stuck in bronze hell are seriously just like the baddies i slaughtered, they are just too stuck up to admit it to themselves.

I think this is exactly the reason we havent had a system like this before, ANET knew from statistics how many would be at rock bottom and the tears it would bring, but people have asked for it, so now its here and you can finally see how much you suck.

gg merry christmas.!

Currently I am slaughtering myself from bronze out.
I Started with 835 points and now iam in early silver with playing max 5-10 games ea day. I am sure, with my gamepace I will reach gold without a problem.

BUT what you are saying is nonsense or just luck.

Even if i slaughter 3 on mid solo and holding the point, there just need to be 2 of there to slaughter our 4 which is happening. Just running to close takes time, then running back to mid takes time. Even if i can slaughter the other 2 and decap the point, my usless 4 are alrdy dead in mid or far.

You cant be everywhere, you cant carry all matches unless you have a high RNG Luck.

Just to tell you my luck. Since the last 4 years i got 3 Precursor drops. First Venom sold for 16g (was in the first year), second Storm sold for 1xx g (was i think in the later first year early second year of gw2), third The Bard, current price 15x g (I still have it). I gambled for Dawn and Dusk in the Mystictoilet. Even i knew my luck is bad (also in RL) i tried it because a Guildy got 2 Dusks and a Dawn consecutive. I dont know how much gold i pushed into the Mystictoilet, its just to painful to remember, but i didnt get a single Precursor. Now imagine how my matchmakings are. Even with that i slaughtered myself to silver and i will go higher.

The thing i am mad is that the matchmakings even in silver are crap. Today i had a staff Ranger in silver match who was rushing into the mid of the point and died instantly. I told him in chat to stay out of the circle and use his Staff skill 2 on target. But no after respawn the same happened again. Its Silver Tier. PPl like that shoudnt be there.

Dreamer.1952:

Looks like loots of players like me who are stuck in bronze and having bad luck with matchmakings.

Agreeing with everything Azure wrote and some others too since i have expirienced all of them in this season in my solo queues.

Things that frustraited me also:

• A axe/torch ranger playing power build, following me every step while iam telling him to move to other spots he is needed.

• Getting in 3 matches the same Guardian who doesnt know anything. As exemple: Lord is being atacked that said Guard is moving to lord so iam going to cap points. Iam capping points but that guard is staying still at the broken gate. A flash hitme recognizing that it is THAT Guard (had two in that team) runshing to our lord, seeing that that guard is staying beside the broken gate and trying to jump over the gate. We lost the match 4xx-500 coz Lord died.

• Or in another match same Guardian is capping close and staying there the rest of the match.

• Bouths trebuchets atacking mid. 2 running at start close bouth waiting there 1 our treb, me and Warrior in mid. Warrior staying at stairs. I am in mid trying to dodge treb and and fighting. All enemies are down, also iam down. THAT WARRIOR still waiting at stairs and watching. Funny thing is. Iam dead, all enemies up again but downed instantly. Still that warrior watching. All enmies dead from our treb. That warrior leaving without capping.

• Keeping 3 at far. 2 of them keeping our 4 at close. I am killing one of there three, begging in chat that one of ours should move to mid. They ignoring it.

Loosing matches consecutivly like this. And thats frustraiting.

I messed up my first 10 matches with 3 wins 7 looses on solo q with matches like this. And somehow i have the feeling that RNG doesnt like me.

And come on, noone can tell me he would rush from bronze into Gold if the RNG Luck doesnt like you. What can you do if you are playing “1vs5” and thats how iam feeling currently with my matches.

Currently i have 40+ matches and close to silver, but still its frustraiting.

I wrote this in another thread and typing it here again because some players are saying you can carry everymatch in bronze. No you cant. Even close to end Tier 3 bronze, the RNG luck in matchmaking can give you low rating players in your team and high rating players in the other team and that in consecutive matches. Its then mostly 1vs5.

Read this thread and you know how we find out someone is new in pvp.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/What-frustrates-you-most-when-you-lose/first#post6439350

Looks like loots of players like me who are stuck in bronze and having bad luck with matchmakings.

Agreeing with everything Azure wrote and some others too since i have expirienced all of them in this season in my solo queues.

Things that frustraited me also:

• A axe/torch ranger playing power build, following me every step while iam telling him to move to other spots he is needed.

• Getting in 3 matches the same Guardian who doesnt know anything. As exemple: Lord is being atacked that said Guard is moving to lord so iam going to cap points. Iam capping points but that guard is staying still at the broken gate. A flash hitme recognizing that it is THAT Guard (had two in that team) runshing to our lord, seeing that that guard is staying beside the broken gate and trying to jump over the gate. We lost the match 4xx-500 coz Lord died.

• Or in another match same Guardian is capping close and staying there the rest of the match.

• Bouths trebuchets atacking mid. 2 running at start close bouth waiting there 1 our treb, me and Warrior in mid. Warrior staying at stairs. I am in mid trying to dodge treb and and fighting. All enemies are down, also iam down. THAT WARRIOR still waiting at stairs and watching. Funny thing is. Iam dead, all enemies up again but downed instantly. Still that warrior watching. All enmies dead from our treb. That warrior leaving without capping.

• Keeping 3 at far. 2 of them keeping our 4 at close. I am killing one of there three, begging in chat that one of ours should move to mid. They ignoring it.

Loosing matches consecutivly like this. And thats frustraiting.

I messed up my first 10 matches with 3 wins 7 looses on solo q with matches like this. And somehow i have the feeling that RNG doesnt like me.

And come on, noone can tell me he would rush from bronze into Gold if the RNG Luck doesnt like you. What can you do if you are playing “1vs5” and thats how iam feeling currently with my matches.

Currently i have 40+ matches and close to silver, but still its frustraiting.

I played today a few different roles and found out some funny things with the rank point contributions.

Its just comparriosion not really given points.

Support Ranger given point on win = 10

Condi Warrior given point on win = 20

Revenant Power given point on win = 30

Its just the overall points i get with my Revenant is like 30-40 while i get only mostly with my Ranger 10-19

Even the Patchnotes telling Healing on ranger should be counted I never saw in the end of the Match that points from healing wich should be high with Staff Astral Wisp and Solar Beam were given.

The thing i think is that Condi dmg is over Time and Power dmg is more Burst. So the thing it looks like fast kills counts more to the Power side.

Anyone of you has the same expirience about a similiar thing like me?

Edit: I remember the first year pvp wich had something like personnel score and you got alote of points on Killing. If you played a Tank build or Support you mostly got 120 Points while Burst dmg Builds got 300+ points. Pll stopped playing tank builds even stopped capping points and just rushed to kill players to gain there Rank 80 Dragon.

Annabel.5127:

3. This leads me to my next point, for whatever reason losing to top tier players makes you lose ALOT of mmr, i haven’t experienced this personally on this account as I have been within the top 5 fairly steadily, but I have heard lower ranked people can lose anywhere from 50-70 rank points for losing to top 5 players. This doesn’t make sense honestly and feels really unfriendly towards lower ranked players because of the amount of games they will have to win to climb back up again. If anything losing to top players should make you lose LESS points instead of more, if you yourself are lower.

Cynz.9437:

3. I faced rank 1 player with his duo partner yesterday, we won but the points gain was so minimal despite him and his friend being 300 pts above us………..

fishball.7204:

For reference I have 1730 MMR, you guys have like 2050 which is 320 MMR difference and I lost 12 =/

This favours players in higher ranks more so it keeps them up. I would like to know how the point gain loose of the top 100 players is?

xKratos.4758:

Also, you only need 200 pts to get out of gold to plat. And I get 87 +79 and +64 on my 3 games out of plats then it sharply drop to +30-3 and +7 now so Yes the system is working. It’s not flawless but it is working. Also, I have to 1v2 and 1v3 on those 3 games while my duoQ partner support the bads in team fight. Just because you cant climb to top 20 doesn’t mean the system is not working.

This is the only one saying that he/she is getting high rating points. Is there a history of gaining points where you can see the last matches points??

Silberfederling.9302:

Dreamer.1952:

Silberfederling.9302:

Yeah and i think that is fine. What use is that, apart from kitten? None, so yeah game mode specific stuff as wvw lvl, pvp Division or pve mastery rank should remain in their respektive game mode.

Well then just remove all the pve skins from WvW. What does the decoration matter in WvW? None, so yeah game mode specific stuff like PvE skins should remain in their respektive game mode. Just keep the WvW skins you can get thruw badge and so on.

Can’t answer the way i want, top many infractions for being rude and snarky towards posts like that.
10\10 for trying though.
0\10 for getting the point.
Read again what i wrote, what it is about.
Btw go ahead removing the Skins, i use Outfits and BL Skins XD

0\10 for getting MY point of few.

Close plz.
I can’t stand ppl that doesn’t care and respect about other ppls thoughts about “decoration”. Else this topic will really get toxic.

Silberfederling.9302:

Yeah and i think that is fine. What use is that, apart from kitten? None, so yeah game mode specific stuff as wvw lvl, pvp Division or pve mastery rank should remain in their respektive game mode.

Well then just remove all the pve skins from WvW. What does the decoration matter in WvW? None, so yeah game mode specific stuff like PvE skins should remain in their respektive game mode. Just keep the WvW skins you can get thruw badge and so on.

Tiffany.8576:

It’s an intended change and it was mentioned in the second post of the patch notes:

Removed PvP League badges from nameplates in WvW.

Didnt read the second post, because i updated the second patch a few mins ago. But it was removed on the first patch wich can be excused after they mentioned it on the second patch notes

Like the topic is saying i cant see the divsion beside the gamenames. Worked really hard for it and after the last patch its gone in wvw. Also its not mentioned in the patchnotes.

Cactus Brawler.7415:

At the very least Anet need to offer some form of compensation.

They can’t advertise part of a product then pull it after people have paid for it.

Dont let the compenmsation into the hands of A-net. The only thing you will get is a booster from Cashshop as compensation.

Iam playing Gw2 since realease and my expirience with GW2 and the thing that bothers me now is → Today Legendary Weapons and tomorrow …..
Its now five months since the release of HoT and we got only a second raid map? And devs working on second so called “GW2 Expansion”.
Oh well they are working on the HoT content, like they worked on SAB and dropped it on several reasons.
If people want to make solutions they will find a way, but if they dont want to find a solution they will find excuses.

Honestly the Grinning Shield is one of the few good looking shields in GW2.
I was waiting so long for the Tormented Shield and find out that it is in GW2 just to small at most races (Just like most skins in GW2 – the size doesnt suit.)
I waited for the Chao Axe just to find out i cant color it like in gw1 -.- (missing my purple chaos axe with purple chaos glows. The merging of bouths is unpayable).

And one point more why are most of the skins just flat. Look at the Tempest Warhorn from the front or back. Also alote of staffs or other weapons (like Dreamthisted Hammer -.-) are just flat. Its a hammer not a dualhanded AXE.

Anet gave us alote of skins that mostly are oversized or to small for alote of races or are just made without any love.

And the Grinning Shield is one of the few good ones, so give it back to the ppl that missed it.

Sry went a bit off topic.

Since Halloween is comming back, i hope the Ghastly Grinning Shield will be now also come back. Almost every skin came back in this or that way but not the Grinning Shield.

I was also expecting that the Vampiric Dragon Sword from GW1 would come into GW2 but well it wont like the current situation shows us.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Koutalophile

Wiki is giving the answere. Its good for AP and th reward of it. HF

Bloodstealer.5978:

We even ran Blix meta a few times and only a single soul chirped in demanding we stay out the circle… awww blesss…

…not seen any commander ignoring events, defence or otherwise and farming the lootz

Still talking paradox. Not ignoring defence and running a few times Blix meta doesnt fit.
Good that you got your exploit back with your Toxic Trolling. Have fun with it and now take your right to say its farm and take your right the others are exploiting.

Edit

..Cursed Shore is running as intended once more..

And funny that you few Meta Exploit farmers are taking yourself the right to say how GW2 is to play like you alone designed this game.

Yeah reduce this game for the playstyle of the few noisy Toxic players.

My last post here

GG Anet.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

It’s funny that even after the devs specifically came out and said that it was not an exploit the only defense the griefers have for their actions is that it was an exploit.

What should of happened is that the griefers should have been banned, end of story.

I agree with this. Toxic Trolls should be able to be banned or this game will be reduced to a one sided game missing the variety and will also be reduced to the few toxic players playstyle because they are the most noisy in the forums.

Edit:
The solution shoudnt be to nerf something to handle the toxic talk.

The main problem is that a few meta chain exploiter were angry about the blix farmer because the blix farmer interfered there chain exploit. So they took themself the right to troll arround.

Still, commanders and players are running arround and ignoring the defence of a position like pen/shelter/jofast for the purpose that the meta chain will start and they will get more reward is the same like the Blix farm.

I hope this patch will also affect the meta chain exploit, else it would be really unfair to do what a few toxic players want and give them back there exploit while the others are just getting a red card.

This reminds me times in GW1 where the few so called mighty white knight BALANCED PLAYERS in pvp called every other build as GIMMICK or OP. Falmming the other builds in forums as noobish op or whatever and caused them to be nerfed to deaths.
In the end GvG and HoH was reduced only to balanced build because of the nerfs. And HoH and GvG got so onesided with the result that HoH died.

Then builds like Hex builds and spikes got a buff again but it was to late. HoH never got back the faivor like in the first year.

Back to the point. Because of a few Toxic Trolls farmspots like FG are getting nerfed. And the big population is getting ignored.

I hope the same mistake wont happen in GW2 like in the pvp of GW1

Behellagh.1468:

So once the patch hits, all that the Blix exploiters have accomplished is to make failure on Blix annoying because of the cool down on failure for those trying to do the meta chain, making the game less friendly.

And this is the point i try to show you.
To get the meta event you let the defence of Pen shelter and jofast fail. If you see the defence event would you go there and complete the defence with the knowledge that the fail of the event will give you the meta chain with more reward. Anet intended also the defence of this events to be succed.
So blix fail is exploit and the other fail to get the meta chain wich is not directly seen from other players is not fail?

Edit:
So the Commander wandering arround Cursed Shore is ignoring the defence of Pen/shelter/Jofast and then rushing to the meta chain is ok?

So failing to get a reward from Lyssa is ok and “fail” Shelter to get reward is not ok?

For the Penitent/Blix/Shelter/Jofast chain, wich is ok for you, you still at least need to let fail shelter.

You are still talking paradox.
Edit:
And honestly most ppl dont care if you were one to voice concern over such a poor design choice.
Fact is bouths events rewards after fail and also your chain works also only after a fail.

Bloodstealer.5978:

but having these kind of exploits

But I guess the simple fact is there are always some that want the easy way to everything and want it with minimal effort and time.

Still talking about "this kind of exploits while you used yourself one?

Bloodstealer.5978:

The Penitent/Blix/Shelter/Jofast chain has always been popular.. scaling those events to spawn champs has always been a good source of loot, without the incessant need to exploit it to fail/reset endlessly.

Dreamer.1952

To go the event pattern you mentioned all spots needs to be contested beforehand. Doesnt this show us that ppl intent to loose all the defence on that chain points to even get the chain? Example Blix is showing up after you loose shelter event.
Are you not beeing paradox. So you were using also an “exploit”?

Noone was talking at Lyssa Trait cap or Grenths Trait cap about exploits so why now?

While the trait cap was implemented you needed to kill Lyssa to get the trait. There you need to fail the defence of Lyssa to even gain the possibility of trait gain. Is that a exploit.
Ppl were trolling with lyssa defence. They just succeded it because its an open game and the designers wants us to defend.

I really dont get your point of exploits.
The only thing that bouthers me on Blix farm is that it took a range where alote of ppl are farming it. And that shows us a lack of FG like farm spots.

Edit:
Same problem was with Grenths. The Grenths defence didnt give the trait pre patch. Players needed to fail the event to gain the Trait. Now the trolling started till the patch came. Was the Grenths fail an exploit?

Lots of players with lots charakters didnt want to pay the 3g+ for the traits so they farmed the traits. And noone sad failing lyssa or grenths is a exploit.

Edited the Qutot display. Was not ok the way before

While the trait cap was implemented you needed to kill Lyssa to get the trait. There you need to fail the defence of Lyssa to even gain the possibility of trait gain. Is that a exploit.
Ppl were trolling with lyssa defence. They just succeded it because its an open game and the designers wants us to defend.

I really dont get your point of exploits.
The only thing that bouthers me on Blix farm is that it took a range where alote of ppl are farming it. And that shows us a lack of FG like farm spots.

Edit:
Same problem was with Grenths. The Grenths defence didnt give the trait pre patch. Players needed to fail the event to gain the Trait. Now the trolling started till the patch came. Was the Grenths fail an exploit?

One Prarie Outpost.4860:

If players doing it wrong and exploiting the game is hampered or they are made unhappy by the actions of players playing the game correctly and not exploiting the game

Thats a definition of a selfjustice player that i was waiting for. Now back to my example.
A rated GvG 15vs15 in Os or souths camp wich is not intended from designers is taking place and a Troll is messing it up because he is playing the game correctly. He wants to play with the gvg because its open world. He is following the guilds to other spots and still trolling there. Is that Ok?
This happened really. A full guild was trolling with 2 gvg guilds. Is that Ok because GvG is not intended from the designers?

Sariel V.7024:

UntamedLoli.2978:

Farmers trying to dictate how to play the game, 99.9% of the time directly against how it was designed.

Why am I not surprised.

It’s even complete with calling anyone not following the flock of ducks a troll.

Reversing the roles doesn’t help anyones arguments either. Repeatedly forcing an event to failure would be both against the spirit of the game and griefing. Unlike getting mad someone isn’t following the social constructs.

Indeed. It’s a fine example of the entitled bullying detractors into submission. Kinda how like gangs try to silence onlookers when they’re busy committing crimes they believe they should get away with. “It ain’t your business,” is the usual refrain, and I’m sure these farmers would get violent with anyone disrupting their sure thing, if only they could.

takes a drink

Half the people here make me sick.

GvG in OS is then also and exploit because the way the wvw guilds do it is not intended from the designers. And if one outsider is trolling the GvG matches is ok for you.
WvW Guilds have even a third party webside for rating.
And dont tell me this has nothing with the economy. Ascended gears are very important there. 2 even guilds one with exotic and one with ascended gear who do you think will win. And gaining ascended gear always effects the TP. And there not a few guilds that are doing GvG.
And there are lots of other examples for not intended play style like Terrormancers in Eotm or others.

Bloodstealer.5978:

The Penitent/Blix/Shelter/Jofast chain has always been popular.. scaling those events to spawn champs has always been a good source of loot, without the incessant need to exploit it to fail/reset endlessly.

To go the event pattern you mentioned all spots needs to be contested beforehand. Doesnt this show us that ppl intent to loose all the defence on that chain points to even get the chain? Example Blix is showing up after you loose shelter event.
Are you not beeing paradox. So you were using also an “exploit”?

Blix farm showed us that there is a big ammount of ppl that wants Fg farm back. Else Blix farm wouldnt have an impact like this.
Iam not a fan of doing the same thing over and over and over again 8 hours the day thats why i gave up on farming for a fractal bow.
Anet just took something from the community and the community is looking for alternatives.

Bloodstealer.5978:

Dreamer.1952:

A-net against farming is not the right word to say. Getting the new backpiece is farming, gaining Lyssa Backpiece was farming (or you had the 1.2kg (afterpatch 200g)), Legendary is more farming especcially doing ever and ever again the same Heart mechanic to get your map complition. Fractal skins is farming. A guildy got 3 fractal shields still no sword. I gave up on ever getting fractal bow.

So why did anet nerf all gold farm spots and on the other hand they want us farming?

On one side we are grinding like hell because the game wants it on the other side, there is a statement that “we are against grinding” and nerfs come up.

And now there is a opportunity for farming and some Trolls just jump in with there selfjustice and having fun to rage others and destroy the farm because they think they are in right and so they take the other players right to choose the way of to play there way with the game mechanic. If you dont like it change server.

What would be happen if a student would jump in the class and shout out you all are wrong iam the king because i take the right to say how you have to think or act? And now he gives all the student the rule to not eat in the break with the thought they all get fat?

Stop the selfjustice. If you dont like the play style on the map change server.

Your wrong.. the only reason players began to form up and try to stop the event being farmed was because when they tried legitimately run the event chain previously they were abused by the #bandofexploitbrothers.

Change servers sound great.. except within a few days every map copy you could get into was doing the same thing…

It takes an action to cause a reaction… blix farmers began purposely harassing players that did not want to conform to there exploitation of the shelter event and as always happens that kind of abuse causes the reaction and yeah, players get fed up of being called a noob, a c*** etc etc and began to learn how to use the failtrains own tactics of scaling the event to spawn champs.. by simply aggroing the mobs onto it whilst ressing the NPC’s to almost full health and waiting for their time to fully res them.

Curse Shore became vacant across most parts of the map since Blix became so overly exploitable by the hoards and the LFG system utilised to spread the exploit virally across the player base..

I for one am glad ANET have at least looked into putting an end to it… hopefully the worst offenders of this exploitation will see actions taken on their accounts, but I doubt that is going to happen, which just says its fine to exploit for as long as you can until a patch comes.. that’s not a deterrent merely a mini game of chase.

So you want to explain me that there were players that are doing daily shelter succesfull events before the blix farm and that the blix farmer intruded there spot? Thats how it sounds.

Stampede.5308:

Better be careful with this fixes. Anet continuosly nerf drop, nerf rewards, nerf loot… We are earning every day less money/drops than the previous and the prices continue to rise.
1g = 5 gems (WTF, a year ago 1g = 100 gems)
But this is the gemstore, i can stand it
62s = 1 powerful vial of blood (5 months ago 28s = 1 powerful vial of blood)
1300g Spark (march 2014 525g = spark. April 2014 715g = spark)

The prices are rising of more than 100% and the loot and rewards are getting worse and worse.
The ridicolous thing is that fail events and repeat them is more rewarding that succed in them.
This game is getting more and more frustrating, buy something at trading post is becoming ridicolous.
And moreover, why nerfing this kind of exploit, when there are people grinding auction house making money that way? I’m sure and well aware that also auction house isn’t designed to get the rich richer and get the poor on the pave.

If i remeber right the t6 mats got expensive after t6 mat farm spots got nerfed.
Precursor got expensive cause of the rare drop nerf.

A-net against farming is not the right word to say. Getting the new backpiece is farming, gaining Lyssa Backpiece was farming (or you had the 1.2kg (afterpatch 200g)), Legendary is more farming especcially doing ever and ever again the same Heart mechanic to get your map complition. Fractal skins is farming. A guildy got 3 fractal shields still no sword. I gave up on ever getting fractal bow.
Edit: And LS s1 was mostly farming to get the meta. And there are alote of other things that are farming like ascended gear….. Edit finish

So why did anet nerf all gold farm spots and on the other hand they want us farming?

On one side we are grinding like hell because the game wants it on the other side, there is a statement that “we are against grinding” and nerfs come up.

And now there is a opportunity for farming and some Trolls just jump in with there selfjustice and having fun to rage others and destroy the farm because they think they are in right and so they take the other players right to choose the way of to play there way with the game mechanic. If you dont like it change server.

What would be happen if a student would jump in the class and shout out you all are wrong iam the king because i take the right to say how you have to think or act? And now he gives all the student the rule to not eat in the break with the thought they all get fat?

Stop the selfjustice. If you dont like the play style on the map change server.

Currently almost all maps are Megaservers and with that using Way Points is a pain because allmost all WPs are contested if you want to change the map. To reach you point you need to pay an extra cost of 1.58s or run your way there. I wont give any comments to this but the currenty situation with the WPs looks like broken.

The overfew of the events like Lyssa, Balthazar … is not that good. Even on the first days you knew that there was a timer to spawn on the Boss and came back after like 1h30 mins. Currently you dont know what megaserver you are in. What the timer is and….

Sure 3 Bosses have now fixed timers like Karka but what is with the other bosses. And then, just 3 spawn times with a window of 15 mins is not the best solution.

McFribble.2349:

Dreamer.1952:

Change it so that you gain heal just on hit on HS. Thats my 50 cent.

Fine by me. 100blades spam inside Zergs will make me even more tanky than I already am. That would be a buff for my build.

Not working any more. I used back then Malice + Dagger Storm in Zerg and was healing like a Monk. Somthing got changed on the scaling (was not in patch notes and not announced) so no imba healing anymore.
Also the healing on crit build at Guardian got at the same time the nerf. Just spam Staff skill 1 in Zerg and you healed up in an instant.

Change it so that you gain heal just on hit on HS. Thats my 50 cent.

A few days ago I killed the Hydra Queen too and didnt got the achievment. I send a ticket to the support but didnt get a response. And now its 4 months that this thread is opened and that bug still exists. Sure for Anet its a minor bug, but well at least they could answere to the ticket.

Will there be in near future the skin of the Vampiric Dragon Sword in GW2?

I have finished all 9 Daily quests and didnt got reward. Have also send a bug report.