Guild Wars 2

Well at least i can imagine Zhaitan and palawa joko’s undead armies warring at the north of Elona, as Zhaitans teritory at its height reached that far. “In the height of his reign, his domain reached from the Ring of Fire islands to the northern borders of Elona, to the pockets along the northern shores of the Sea of Sorrows. " http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zhaitan

I cant say with any certainty that Cantha is affected by the Dragons but at least Elona would be suffering war to its north on 2 fronts with forces of Zhaitan on one front and Kral on another fighting the armies of Joko.

Also to your statement whether Palawa Joko could fight an Elder Dragon, i would agree that a near impossible to kill Lich like him could handle the Elder dragons armies and champions but not if they came out themselves in force. Even he could not withstand a Elder Dragon in combat, i can imagine they could even get around his near immortality by consuming his magic or converting him.

btw Konig are you Konig of the wiki?

Who’s to say all the ED only affect Tyria…. From Quaggen, Krait and Karka we know that there is a Deep sea elder dragon (lovingly nicknamed by the gw2 community as bubbles which they fled north into Tyria to avoid.

We know the DSD is in ocean south of Orr as the Karka had to avoid orr and the undead on their way to Southshore (btw did i mention that Karka are immensely old and have experienced the dragons before) from the developers.

If you look on a map http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/a/a2/Tyria_world_fan_map_%28freestyle%29.jpg where the DSD would be located would be at its most northern possibility it would be west of Elona, and at most Southern possibility north of Cantha. How can we be sure the other continents are unaffected or if they do not have Demons (hic dragons) of their own…..

^ they wouldn’t be or couldn’t be? Much of what the Dragon of Orr has done in Orr has been seemingly done out of mockery and contempt. Corrupting the Temples and Priests. Turning the entire line of Orrian royalty into the eyes and mouths of the dragon. Turning their giving them an almost humanoid form would be the height of mockery.

However you are right in that they were made from their own bodies.
King Reza: When the dragon rose, it plundered the royal tomb at Azabe Qabar and used the bodies of my family to create its most heinous servitors-the Eyes of Zhaitan.

However it still doesn’t rule out there could be flesh from the dragon used in their construction thus creating a link between them. Also the mouth of Zhaitan (see image) appears to be made of multiple bodies (all royal family members) similar to abomination. This further reenforces the idea that when corrupted their form is still vastly different in shape nor size to their original forms (with the exception of risen crafted from multiple corpses).

Also your idea that a dragon (lesser) could be created out of other races is also not supported nor suggested.

edit: added picture i mentioned but forgot to add.

“dragons are power” that quote i could also use to back my theory. i could claim that it refers to what possess them. Seems like you are really twisting the meaning of the phase to get “Elder Dragons are draconic because they are so powerful”. It probably it just another phase referring to cataclysmic (storm like) nature of the Eldar dragons.

On the topic of them switching bodies, the fact that they hibernate is not a counter argument for them switching bodies. It assumes they hibernate due to physical restraints of the body, rather than than like a bear in winter it hibernates because its food source is not longer available. Elder dragons hibernate to allow for their food (magic and sentient creatures) to again reach amounts that will allow for them to feast again.

On the rule of: Dragon shaped minions and all non-dragon minions looking like their original just afflicted, i would argue is true with few exceptions. For example the more extreme cases of icebrooding are not too dissimilar to their originals.
The Icebrood Norn that resemble an oakheart (which i referred to earlier in the argument) increase in size over its original form is not too great and the original form can still be seen except it has been twisted and deformed.
For risen knights they are very similar in size and shape to original human forms and abominations are most likely made from multiple corpses. On the topic of mouth and eye of zhaitan they seem to be constructs in which the souls of the Orrian royalty have been forced to possess and were most likely made from the flesh of the dragon itself given their connection.

To the paragraph on Edritch abominations. I was saying that there may of existed a sentient dragon race and that the Elder Dragons possessed, corrupted and took the already existing dragons for their own, even taking them for their own bodies. From example Zhaitan taking the bodies of the dragons he took and making them into his body, Jormag turning the dragon who’s body he took to ice (and the other dragons he took as minions to ice via his corruption) etc.

I suggested that they were Lovecraftian monsters as they seem very similar, which is why i suggested they came from outside tyria similar to the Great Old Ones.

Also while i suggested they are foreign it is not crucial to the theory, they could of equally existed from the beginning in some form and at a later stage possessed or gained the ability to. Perhaps they were originally a sentient race that through a master of magic or natural talents gained the ability to enslave and possess the bodies of the dragons.

On the topic of Dragons, i don’t not believe their form comes from corruption only their affliction (e.g. ice, crystal, undeath), looking at normal corrupted minions their corrupted forms are usually very similar to their uncorrupted e.g. icebrood, branded, risen. For this thought you would assume that dragons follow the same rule, having an uncorrupted form similar to their corrupted except without the corruption affliction such branding (turned to crystal), icebrood (turned to ice) or risen (their actual body dead and risen via a type of necromancy).

when they say always on Tyria, they could just that the time they arrived on Tyria predates and records of knowledge, seeing as they predate human gods, wipe out all the living races each time the awake.

On the topic of Glint is described as being a dragon herself, and from what we see ingame dragons are on a class of their own compared to other dragon minions, they are not like the mouth of zhaitan or one of those Icebrood Norn that resemble an oakheart. I dont no beleive she became a dragon as a result of her corruption.

On the topic of Zhaitan you are right it does have the appearance of being made of multiple dragons, that and m any limbs, wings, heads and tails woven together. We already know that there exist undead that are constructed out of flesh (e.g. abominations).

When they say always on Tyria, it could just be that the time they arrived on Tyria predates all records and knowledge, seeing as they predate human gods, wipe out all the living races each time the awake.

Also when i say they are parasites i mean parasites in a lovecraftian Cthulhu way.

I have been mulling this over for some time.

The following we know about The Elder Dragons:
They have a cycle where they awaken every couple thousand years or so, go about draining all the magic in the world and killing all the sentient races before going to sleep again.
There exists 6 factions of Elder Dragons: Zhaitan (Undead), Primordus (Lava and rock), Jormag (Ice), Kralkatorrik (Crystal), Mordremoth (unrevealed jungle dragon) and Bubbles (unrevealed and unnamed Deep sea dragon).
Dragons can exist free of the control of their master (e.g. Glint).
Some Dragons can corrupt living things for minions (e.g. risen, icebrood, branded), while other create them in mimicry of living things (e.g. Destroyers).
There exist great differences between dragon factions, main similarities are that they are dragons and they eat magic, methods and minions differ.

Ok now for the idea:
What if the Dragons as a race were not originally evil and just another sentient race. What if the Elder dragons are in fact forces of intelligent power that have possessed the original dragons corrupting them and acting as magic feeding parasites to Tyria. The cycle is definitely a system to allow for sentient life and magic to recover to levels that they can once again feed on. Perhaps it was the spring of Arah that originally lured them to Tyria perhaps from another dimension such as the mists or another world.

What i base this idea on is the information in the “what we know paragraph”, that Zhaitan’s form is comprised of numerous dead dragons and the fact that the Forgotten were able to free Glint from Kralkatorrik’s control.

What do you think of my theory?

Sources:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elder_Dragon
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glint

^ exactly these anti bot measures (especially this one) inconvenience players more than bots.

usually get the error when i am about 3 quarters into selling my full bags. Pretty consistent “error” for me.

I would hypothesize that there are 2 different instances where “Error attempting to sell” appears: 1. legitimate error in selling, 2. Anti bot script triggered by: selling a certain volume of goods within a certain time period.

There is another topic about it, supposedly the error warning is an anti bot measure that appears if you post more then a certain number of items in an allocated time period.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Do-away-with-Error-attempting-to-sell/first#post3104312

AR YOU KIDDING ME!!!! (RAGE)

Are you kitteny telling me this was an intentional part of game design and not a bug.

This have been my bane the entire time i have played this game! I only use tp to sell the stuff i have gathered adventuring once my bag fills.

Every KITTEN time i do this for the last quarter of the items i am selling i have to close window reopen trading window, sell and item, try to sell next item, close window and reopen, repeat.

This is a stupid what to combat bots and only inconveniences the player not the botters.

This needs fixing!

Also the charr heavy tier 1 cultural chest clips back mounted weapons. This is our KITTEN cultural armor yet it clips our weapons!

This needs fixing!

Also the charr heavy tier 1 cultural chest clips back mounted weapons. This is our KITTEN cultural armor yet it clips our weapons!

I just bought 2 [Lost Orrian jewelry boxes] for kitten karma each, however i didn’t receive the Karma Spender achievement (750 karma spent).

I played wow since shortly before BC came out until several months ago. I didnt stop playing wow because i hated it or i no longer liked it, i still like it and love it however as much as i like it, it bores me. The reason i enjoy GW2 so much is that soo much of it is completely different. The reason it is soo enjoyable is that it is sooo different to WoW and almost every single mmo out there.

interesting ideas. Possibly (i don’t know if this defeats the idea of jumping puzzles) mark out where they start with an icon (like the waypoint or “point of interest icon”). One of the hardest thing about jumping puzzles is finding out where they exist.

perhaps for non-achievement skins have something like the pvp lockers which wont be retroactive and you have to physically add you skins. perhaps you the lockers could be in armories in the cities (e.g. near the dungeon vendors in lions arch and in location in other cities which could be designated as armories)

well if it is a skin that is a reward from an achievement, they all they would have to do is place the skins for any achievements you hold in the same place as the zenith weapon skin spot, which i believe you can withdraw and use as many times as you want.

Yougan.8297:

Making it for past skins would make people that already used theirs whine about it on the forums. So I will just recommend doing it for future skins.

(Tho past skins would be nice too. : ))

wouldn’t matter if you have the achievement for the skin it would be placed in the same place to be withdrawn as the zenith weapon skins.

Tom Gore.4035:

You can no longer place new buy orders below vendor price. They just haven’t cleaned up the ones that were placed before this restriction was implemented.

This all stems of course from one of the biggest problems of the TP and that is there is no time limit on either sell or buy orders.

That’s wonderful, now all they have to do is clear the old ones and one of my suggestions will be met.

i like this idea.

yeah we need this for the past (and future) living story/achievement rewards

oh and please and some new legendaries (especially staves) that can match the awesomeness of the 3 greatswords (bifrost unfortunately looks pretty un-legendary)

Hi

Been playing for several months now and i have noticed a few simple areas the game could be improved.

Placing the dungeon tokens (rewarded for completing a dungeon and used to buy gear), pvp tokens and wvw tokens in a currency tab instead of being items that take up bank/bag space.

Altering the BLTP so that offers to buy stuff cannot be made lower than the vendor price of the vendor price of the item to prevent what is currently occurring (thousands of offers to buy a trade-good below its profession price).

Improving the achievement page so that previous items rewarded from achievements can be withdrawn from the achievement tab like the current zenith weapon skins.

Perhaps implementing an in-game world boss tracker or something similar (maybe even a server world boss chat channel (which can be turned off and has strict moderation).

Other than these few quality of life changes i find the game very enjoyable and how to keep playing for a long time.

Thank you for reading.

Regards
Faustas

p.s. i think an expansion box would be best for the future elder dragon content as it would fund the content and a lot more stuff could be added such as extending the story quests.

Still broken!

Please fix this i cant do my diving achievement

it’s not registering either dragonball achieves due to some bug. there is another larger thread about this.

Jaaded.1870:

Still waiting to hear something on these 2 achievements not showing up under total count.

they fixed a few things with this current build but not this bug

Same here please fix.

WaxWorm.8574:

In most cases this happens due to accidentally pressing the enter-key which will send the focus (and blinking cursor) to the chat window. All following keys pressed are going to the chat window then. By either pressing enter again (and sending whatever you typed to the selected chat channel) or by left-clicking somewhere the game window you can bring back the focus to the game.

This sadly (and gladly) is not the problem. This is some sort of combat related glitch.

More infomation: I play a Sylvarri Elementalist, i am mostly using sta kitten and fire attunement so if the bug is caused by one of my abilities that narrows it down. However it may be (thinking back) related to being knocked back, pretty sure i lost movement at least twice this way, once by a risen brute and another time by a veteran undead abomination and i also think once by a nightmare seed turret.

I have experienced this on my elemental many times. I will completly loss the ability to move my character (including jumping). To get rid of my only solution is to log out and in (to character select). This happens in combat mostly so i presume it is one of my abilities triggering it. Possibly not ability triggered, it also seems to happen when i am hit with attacks, there is no status debuff and the loss of movement persists until i log out and in.

it is really annoying as i have had to on occasion redo half a story quest because this bug has happened and i have had to log in and out (cancelling quest). It is also happened when i was fighting mobs in a jumping puzzle and when fighting an event veteran abomination.