Guild Wars 2

Many classes i’d guess would have REASONS to keep their elites, imo ele’s (unless they’re human) don’t really have much of a reason to keep their elites, Glyph of Elementals is our BEST, but compared to guild of thieves? no contest (no cc, mainly)

Forget the elites skills, GIVE ALL classes the choice to REPLACE their elite skill slot for a FOURTH utility slot(rofl thieves aint gona give up guild of thieves, etc etc so imo best way to fix ele’s elite) and because every1 is given the option(altho no 1 would probably give up their elites BESIDES eles :P) its balanced isn’t it?

Problem solved i think, ANet pretty please?

there are a fair bit of useful utility’s, the arcane blasts are great dps, signets are somewat good, but the most USELESS thing is our ELITEs (minus racial elites) other than that, its not the fact that we dont have a lot of useful utilities, we do.
We simple just DIE without cantrips (as dagger/dagger) lol

yeh thats my point, besides guardians (or maybe their heals are just OP instead of their tankiness from toughness) Toughness is underpowered imo, but like i said its the time i got hit by a 7.5k Backstab this could’ve been caused by vulnablity but nonetheless, HP seems like the best way to tank in gw2 but theres not enough options for my play style

reroll engineer, throw bombs and lay down turrets, ANet obviously think its balanced lol

not to mention, a rare encounter with a geared thief,(this was when i decided to get more hp) he did a d/d 5 skill for 3 or 3.5k dmg followed by a 7.5k crit behind me ofcourse. Not sure if it was because there was others on me and might’ve stacked Vulnerbillity but after that i just realised 11-13k hp, just doesnt cut it.

this was during my knights gear period with a few valk (shoulders shoes gloves, hat and a beryl ring) for hp had around close to 1.8k toughness

the knights gear? i was running that but decided to switch, roughly 11-13k hp pool is horrible for me lol. iono maybe i just want to stack HP

Doesn’t matter tbh, i don’t fight any1 underwater(and im pre sure thats same for a majority of people :P)
unless its like a zerg vs a few stragglers in that case i’d just auto attack adn pull them for my team.

Im not talking about 1v1’s, im talking about large fights frontlining (obviously not TANKING the zerg but put pressure and take some punishment and retreat)
and WvW only, not Spvp or PvE

Ragelog.4508:

It is illogical to compare our “dps” to any other class, whilst Eles can be seen as having low dps skills individually, collectively we have double the skills than a warrior.
Thus with correct swapping and combos your “balance” can be meet, but only with proper play style as such your kittening is unjust.
Furthermore, the dps skills that most of your “op” classes have are long animation and can be dodged if you know what you’re looking for.
Learn to play, that’s all.

Theres a thing called quickness, u dodge those too? like instantly dodge take 0 dmg?
Also i do dodge some big hitters, the hardest thing to dodge is auto attack from rangers, fast long no aim needed 1k dmg per hit, impossible to dodge

@daphoenix, imo healing power is gota be the worst stat for D/D eles imo, aside from the minor trait that gives you regeneration when you switch to water attunement and the 5 skill in water, there is NO use for healing power, besides i’ve already tried that mix with knights/valk gear with emerald/beryl accessories mixed for a lot of toughness and some vit as i’ve mentioned but it doesnt really work out, also i havnt really mentioned much about dmg, and i refuse to rely on condition damage, not my playstyle just like healing :P.

@Lucterin, if you’ve read my post you’d see i have full set of karma/invader gear that gives Power/Vit/Toughness, but that alone is not enough hp, but ofcourse i can increase my hp FURTHER with the invader’s accessories (cost like 1.2k or so badges a LOT) but that hampers my ability to crit, with the emerald accessories i get 27% crit chance alone with them.
Thus i hope ANet could add in gear that gives Vitality focused stats along with a mix of power/precision (simmilar to the emerald accessories or knight’s gear but instead of lots of toughness, you get lots of vitality) as i’ve mentioned and with many other spreadsheet charts on effective hp/toughness mix. Ele’s hp pool is not ideal for toughness stacking, but infact we need MORE vitality and a decent number of toughness, not the other way around.

Right now there is not enough stat variation in gear to make more builds POSSIBLE, Condition damage is not my play style, thus i have to resort to crit dmg (valkyrie or beryl gear) but then that hampers my ability to sustain in the front lines coz valk only gives Power Vitality and Crit dmg(but crit dmg is non-factor towards my build i just want crit chance), and i could get myself a full set of Invader accessory but then i’d have close to ZERO crit chance, and that would remove 90% of good sigils for weapons for my ideal build.

Has any1 found optimal geared stats for a tanky style d/d ele for WvW? (not for spvp)

I’ve tried full knights with some valk/beryl gear for some hp, but even with really high toughness i’ve learned it the hard way. You still die very fast due to ele’s really low hp pool.

Then finally i’ve changed my gear to full Emerald accessories for the increased toughness and enough precision to proc occasional crits. With a set of karma/invader gear that gives Power(main) and vit/toughness gear, but the amount of punishment you can take is still minimal without having to back off from the front lines again.

I solely believe this is because toughness is total trash for a low hp class like eles who’s also light armored, currently i have 15.6k hp in wvw with 10 points in water for the 100 extra vit at roughly 1.35k or so total vit, i get close to 18k hp if i invest another 20 points in water.

Why i believe compared to other low hp tier classes (guardians and thiefs) toughness on ele is a nonfactor. Guardians altho having low hp pool, they have so much innate survivability due to high armor value (heavy armor) and healing/regeneration it makes toughness more relevant even with low hp pool.
Well for thieves, you dont touch toughness, period.

I won’t go far to call d/d eles not really viable in WvW as i firmly believe we are not. But i wont deny we are really too weak to be in the front line with the current pool of gear.

solution?

THERE IS NO Vitality focused stats with power/precision, or ANY vit focused gear (that i know of please correct me if i’m wrong lol).

It is so hard to stack HP for eles outside of Spvp, to make you tanky because pure toughness for d/d eles doesnt work, we barely have any mass regeneration or is capable to heal for a lot (and before you say to use healing, d/d eles barely have any use for healing so.)

But weather this is a solution or not, i really hope ANet could give more gear stat variety, all i want is to play the way i want to which is what guild wars 2 ideally is about by removing trinity.

Please add more Vitality variant gear.

Kaine.3501:

I think the thread should end now, You’re entire post is about WvW and you even said “The way Blackgate leadership is organized for WvW is through 2 main guilds at night….and if you even attempt to lead….successful or not…and you are not in those guilds they will all permanently block you and they will spam to anyone that mentions your name in chat that you are a troll and need to be permanently blocked. If the person sticks up for you….their guild blocks them too. This did not just happen to me…its also happened to several of my friends who tried to lead raids as well. Blackgate is very political when it comes to how they operate in WvW.”
How BG organise WvW is through the 2 main guilds you have a bad experience with.
So now you are saying they arent WvW guilds? lol okay

Also answer the questions being asked, what are they guilds that transferred, why are you avoiding questions regarding the guilds involved with you and the transfer?

This just emphasizes my accusation of you being Overkill and Expletus

But like most of your post, you dont seem to make any sense and have no real information about the server you’re accusing of at all.

Note: before you respond to my post again without even using your brain, answer the simple question.
What guilds transferred?

How can you “DEMAND” a thread end then ask for a response? Typical BG player

I told you what guilds transferred….you even used them in your quote AND bolded them in your response. I’m not going to repeat the guild names over and over and over….that just doesn’t make sense. I never once said these were WvW guilds. I find it comical that people are looking up guilds that transferred off the server. Anyway…. I said I have a bunch of friends that WvW and because of the issues we’ve had with the political structure of WvW we were unhappy. I never said any guilds names because I didn’t want this post to come off like I was slandering any guilds. I just want people to be informed of the situation before they transfer to BG or at least be aware if they are on BG this is how it works…you play by their rules…or you dont play at all. If you are a sheep then fantastic…none of this will effect you. But if you are a successful leader like I am and are really good at organizing people and every night notice that people stop following you because a certain guild logs on and they want you to hand over the reins to their GM because E-Reps are on the line…then BG is not the server for you. Some people thrive in that type of environment….other people like me simply dont.

First i didn’t ‘DEMAND’, i said i THINK. why are you so upset .-.

Secondly about guild names, i was (and guessing like MANY) confused by your quote below.
" Monsoon.2589:

What are the two wvw guilds you mentioned on Blackgate?

<Expletus> and <Overkill>"

That quote was a response to (im assuming) Monsoon’s question on which are the guilds that made you leave.

Then my question is, who are the TWO night time guilds you have a problem with?

But never mind, though my guildie who has ran into you before mentioned you had an argument with [URGE]’s Choco.

Now i know why you don’t want to mention the guild you had a problem with, since if you did. Who would believe you? when Choco has done SO much for our server.

Kaine.3501:

Hissatsu.7091:

Kaine.3501:

Mulitplex.2017:

Keripo.6842:

My block list has been empty since launch and I’m pretty sure I clearly stated that there are no ranks in our alliance system…

At this point, I’m pretty sure the posters in this thread are either just having fun trolling or have already jumped ships and are trying to dirty-propaganda up these forums. Back to work for me, no point feeding the trolls.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Did you see the thread about one of your members taking supply from keeps? Not sure if that thread was here or on GW2Guru.

No she didn’t. She has you blocked!

After reading this thread, and having the OP only immaturely add “no they blocked you” etc to quotes to re-emphasis his yet to be proven accusations and blatantly siding with other posters who is on his side, this just seem silly.
Also like many i’ve yet to see this Overkill or Expletus guild on wvw before, and im an Oceanic player and for you to state those two stated guilds being BG’s main guild is a blatant lie and makes me wonder do you even wvw?

As many would know that the two most prominent guilds in BG currently are RQ and URGE, but of course they aren’t 500 man guilds and can’t operate all 4 maps alone, we are starting to get more guilds willing and able to help lead other maps, eg KnT.

We don’t run dictatorship, we don’t have large alliances to run all 4 maps, we have multiple guilds of different sizes leading at different times and maps but of course there is still many holes, so you could’ve been 1 of the guilds that can help patch up our schedules but you chose to run.
Wait no you couldn’t, you don’t even know your (or really) own server’s largest movement the blackgate war council to unify multiple guilds into an community/alliance to work together for wvw. Your accusations are very harsh and have many flaws to start pointing fingers towards the entire server when you’ve (maybe) had bad experiences with two guilds nobody have really seen before.

Also what are the guild names of your guild and the 2 other guilds who have followed you?
“mangarrage.1062

oh and btw what guilds transferred?"

You seem to have missed this person’s question, but tbh the way i see things, im not sure you can even name 3 guilds in our servers :P…

Maybe you’re Overkill and Expletus.

When did I say those two guilds were WvW guilds? Ever?

I would also like to add that this reponse contradicts the leader of the Blackgate Alliance that posted a lengthy response on the first page.

I think the thread should end now, You’re entire post is about WvW and you even said “The way Blackgate leadership is organized for WvW is through 2 main guilds at night….and if you even attempt to lead….successful or not…and you are not in those guilds they will all permanently block you and they will spam to anyone that mentions your name in chat that you are a troll and need to be permanently blocked. If the person sticks up for you….their guild blocks them too. This did not just happen to me…its also happened to several of my friends who tried to lead raids as well. Blackgate is very political when it comes to how they operate in WvW.”
How BG organise WvW is through the 2 main guilds you have a bad experience with.
So now you are saying they arent WvW guilds? lol okay.

Also answer the questions being asked, what are they guilds that transferred, why are you avoiding questions regarding the guilds involved with you and the transfer?

This just emphasizes my accusation of you being Overkill and Expletus

But like most of your post, you dont seem to make any sense and have no real information about the server you’re accusing of at all.

Note: before you respond to my post again without even using your brain, answer the simple question.
What guilds transferred?

Kaine.3501:

Mulitplex.2017:

Keripo.6842:

My block list has been empty since launch and I’m pretty sure I clearly stated that there are no ranks in our alliance system…

At this point, I’m pretty sure the posters in this thread are either just having fun trolling or have already jumped ships and are trying to dirty-propaganda up these forums. Back to work for me, no point feeding the trolls.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

Did you see the thread about one of your members taking supply from keeps? Not sure if that thread was here or on GW2Guru.

No she didn’t. She has you blocked!

After reading this thread, and having the OP only immaturely add “no they blocked you” etc to quotes to re-emphasis his yet to be proven accusations and blatantly siding with other posters who is on his side, this just seem silly.
Also like many i’ve yet to see this Overkill or Expletus guild on wvw before, and im an Oceanic player and for you to state those two stated guilds being BG’s main guild is a blatant lie and makes me wonder do you even wvw?

As many would know that the two most prominent guilds in BG currently are RQ and URGE, but of course they aren’t 500 man guilds and can’t operate all 4 maps alone, we are starting to get more guilds willing and able to help lead other maps, eg KnT.

We don’t run dictatorship, we don’t have large alliances to run all 4 maps, we have multiple guilds of different sizes leading at different times and maps but of course there is still many holes, so you could’ve been 1 of the guilds that can help patch up our schedules but you chose to run.
Wait no you couldn’t, you don’t even know your (or really) own server’s largest movement the blackgate war council to unify multiple guilds into an community/alliance to work together for wvw. Your accusations are very harsh and have many flaws to start pointing fingers towards the entire server when you’ve (maybe) had bad experiences with two guilds nobody have really seen before.

Also what are the guild names of your guild and the 2 other guilds who have followed you?
“mangarrage.1062

oh and btw what guilds transferred?"

You seem to have missed this person’s question, but tbh the way i see things, im not sure you can even name 3 guilds in our servers :P…

Maybe you’re Overkill and Expletus.

Not sure if its just me but sometimes opening the map gets me nauseous, be it quickly opening and closing for a quick location glimpse, or using the map multiple times, the nice(its a neat feature but after a while it’s just a nuisance) zoom in and out effect is quite annoying to me.
Not to mention the time it takes to view it, sometimes its almost faster to just drag my minimap around and locate my goal there, if that’s the case whats the point of the map.
As well as the possibility to die during the zoom out of map phase and a faster way to check the map in WvW and respond to things.

Would appreciate other peoples thoughts on this matter, but its only now that I’ve really noticed how nauseous the zooming gets to be a main issue, but i mention the map delay caused by zooming in/out solely because removing the zoom would also effect that matter.

A simple solution of having an option to remove the zoom in/out effects would be great, allowing players who enjoy the nice features to continue enjoying it while the pvpers and nauseous people to use the “M” map more efficiently