I’m a mesmer main and I’ve seen this type of thread many times before. So I will post what I’ve always posted in these threads.
You have to look at the grand scheme of things in terms of PI. In those terms nothing about the Thief is OP. The only class that actually has a,decent gripe is necro, but if you should never be left to 1v1 a thief anyways. If you find you are in one vs a thief and die….that is a l2p issue on you and your team. Same with rev.
Now on each of those classes while you are countered you can survive a 1v1 long enough for a +1.
Now the other 6 classes pretty much hard or soft counter thief. This is with the OP PI trait too. So if you are dying 1v1 to a thief on one of these other classes then PI is not the problem. You are. Also if you are unable to hold out in a 1v1 with a thief long enough for a rotation to help you while on a necro or rev, PI is not the problem…you are.
No changes at this time are warranted to PI based on the current state of the entire game.
Thank you and /thread
^ what he said.
Also a side note, since rev is nerfed and you want to nerf thief do you guys realise what impact this will have to the meta? It will end in not being able to kill any bunker classes so we will have season1 all over again. Also another thing that you guys seem to not grasp is that thief is already stuck being in a +1 role since theres no teamfight capabilities and theres no 1v1 capabilities against any decent players whatsoever except rev/thief.
All in all, l2p issue – if you face an enemy thief and you are 1v1ing keep track of the map see if he’s gone and be ready to kite/jumping puzzle. *t’s near impossible to kill a good druid/engi/war in a +1 unless I have a mes with moa or a heavy counter to any of those classes then again your rotating was off if you got into this bad matchup.
Any sort of stab/block/reflect/anti projectile negates headshot as well and there’s plenty of this in the game.
The only nerf I could support would be that PI would be dodgeable and then you get room to play around it, everything else is nonsense
Surprised you say this /s
Seriously though, I think 100 posts proves that it is too strong. Time for anet to take a nerf to it. Do it small if needed then increase it until it is balanced.
So the amount of posts equals the truth? Good to know, regardless PI don’t need tweaking at high tiers, perhaps against people who have no clue how it works but if we are gonna balance gw2 around that then yeah….. Have you ever played thief yourself and tried to outnumber an engi/druid/war? Try it and see what would happen, if you do it successful against a good player then try to imagine PI nerf ontop of that and then perhaps realise what a joke this whole thread is.
I do sincerely hope anet don’t touch PI because if they do you’ll have no power based roamers available anymore since rev/thief will be a joke compared to the tankyness of bruisers. If you however only touch PI to dodgeable you actually make it skillfull to evade the damage and a way to play around it. Damage nerf = unkillable bunkers same goes with ICD, theres too few casts with long casting time to actually be able to headshot anything to get PI valuable, include /stab/reflects/yada yada and you’ll see that again it needs to procc on AA
this is my 5 cents. unless you play high tier thief you do not know how hard it is to kill good players even with PI right now, imagine a nerf to that, it would be a joke.
And last but not least, if we do nerf PI thief will 100% be unviable in competitive mindset with communication team v team.
If they do however by some dumb chance nerf PI to satisfy the lower tiers then I defo hope they make heartseeker cast time 50% quicker and increase the dmg by a lot. Remove stealth attack cd add damage to backstab to justify the pi nerf and to be able to kill bunkers
So many lies here
But we get it. You want to keep your class as the number 1. Stop pretending and just admit it
What exactly is he lying about? Care to elaborate?
