Guild Wars 2

Agg is on JQ. Blackgate NA is going to disappear entirely. Now, not only do they have to borderhop to get away from TW, Fear, Choo…they have to borderhop to avoid SF, Ward, and AGG. The Blackgate fairweather crowd is probably going to be enjoying more PVE for the next month or two.

GivaBack.9328:

To BG, frustration aside, we will win with humility and lose with grace, that’s the BG style.

Yep. That’s the first thing that pops in everyones head when they hear the term “Blackgate”: humility and grace. That, a spirit of fair play, and uncompromising ethics.

Great site. Hopefully more people will take it upon themselves to spread the word about this site and get other guilds on their own servers registered.

Here’s a good site for organizing GvG’s. Get registered and start climbing the leaderboards.

http://gw2gvg.com/how-does-it-work.php

There’s a great site to organize GvGs. I just don’t think a lot of people know about it. Register your guild and help get this site off the ground.

http://gw2gvg.com/how-does-it-work.php

Yeah, it looks like DA and TW will have to delay our GvG. We didn’t get matched up this week.

Until Anet finally pulls their heads out of their kitten and designs a dedicated map for GvG to take place or even sets up a tournament system for GvG, this website is our best resource to organize these events. So please keep this thread going, register your guild, and let other guilds on your server know about it.

I encourage people to use this website. The more people that use it, the easier it will be to find a GvG.

Lets build the NA GvG community and get our servers as active as the EU servers in GvG. If your guild likes to GvG or is interested in trying GvG, check out the following link and get registered.

Check it out and spread the word…

http://gw2gvg.com/leaderboard.php?r=eu

Kryyg.8576:

Hoots.9564:

fade.8603:

Watching is different from participation, you should know that preparing a gvg requires time and effort to get to form your team. Need everyone to be traited properly and geared properly. Thats where all the theory crafting comes in, some people love to experiment build synergies but this will take a lot of time to test.

For [TW] at least, we kinda just show up for the GvG’s with what we have online and skip all the technical schizzle bizzle. But that is how Indo developed TW to be.

I find that hard to believe considering Indo’s history. And when he played on JQ, he was literally JQ’s first commander pin and was considered to be one of the best strategists by the community at large back then. I call BS if you are saying you guys just “show up” for GvGs.

No. It’s true. I just joined TWL last month and have been able to participate in a couple of GvG’s last week. The only preperation I had to do is switch from Signet of Rage to Banner as my elite and I don’t even use the banner in the GvG. TW just rolls with whomever is on at the time, which is why you’ll see members of TWL in the group sometimes.

LetoII.3782:

Pvp.2758:

IRSyKo.5843:

Jahn.7019:

TIMMEH.8106:

we have like 100 members tagged…..we really aren’t that large.

You should still GvG them, want me to ask them to get in touch?

BT has no interest in GvG,

Appreciate the offer though.

We understand if you do not wish to be embarrassed.

Nah. No reason at all to call these guys chicken. The open field glory we shared tonight….
Why, TW chat is aflutter like not seen since our first fight with Tsym.

I assume you guys were a zone lead on FA. Indo pilots TW on SoRbl, so its General vs. General.
GvG enough for us!

This. BT is a worthy opponent, regardless of what size group they run in.

PhilBrank.4965:

Great fights tonight. Felt like a 10 minute battle between hills and garrison, JQ ruined it by getting in the garri lol. The take of Cliffside was amazing

Much respect to BT. You guys are fun to fight. That last fight was great and did last 10 minutes. It is too bad it got interrupted.

I’m really glad you guys transferred to Blackgate. The competition was getting a little stale. Now, if we could just get you to q up whatever map TW is on nightly, we can do this more often. ;}

Cover Girl.2580:

Hexxed.8023:

SoR loot is making me rich. Precursors,Abyss/Celestial dyes in one night!

Pics or I call B.S. on your clearly blatant attempt at trolling.

That’s actually BG’s new recruiting tactic. They’re telling people to come to BG because SOR drops higher level loot. I guess they’ve already bribed everyone that is willing to be bribed and the word is out that transferring to Blackgate leads to your guild dying off.

Cautsumeye.6194:

Irish Cowboy.4153:

SOR’s NA has been kicking BG and JQ’s kitten for months. This isn’t a new phenomenon. It’s the way it’s been since SOR arrived in tier one. Yes, there are nights when BG or JQ ticks higher for a brief portion of NA prime, but they’re rare and the tick doesn’t last long. With TSYM, CHOO, FEAR, and TW filling up the maps, it’s difficult for JQ or BG to find a borderland that they can have a lot of success in. The great SOR NA guilds have conditioned the JQ and BG guilds to expect to lose often. Losing isn’t fun. A lot of JQ NA guilds transferred off because they were getting sick of being farmed nightly. It’s difficult to find any BG or JQ guild that hasn’t been conditioned to the point that they turn and run as soon as they see 10 TW tags.

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Anyone that would believe this kind of hooey, I have some nice land for sale in Atlantis.

Congrats on your recent wins SoR, acting like you have been there before would make you look less bush league.

What part of that is false? If you can convince me that it isn’t true, I’ll buy your land in Atlantis. I’ve been playing every week since SOR got to tier one, and it’s not only normal for SOR to dominate JQ and BG’s NA squads, it’s expected.

It happens every night for the last couple of months. If you fail to acknowledge the run then port tactic then you haven’t seen wvw from the eyes of someone in TW/TWL.

Yes, Ramennoodles has stated his reasons why he left JQ, but I believe that he left because he and his EMP buddies got sick of getting wiped and running back.

lollasaurus.1457:

Kalla.4290:

Kreen.3925:

oh dear, I see someone has let a cowboy loose on the forums. Can someone lasso that sucker in.

I do love these revisionist posts but I am sure there will be a few forum warriors aiming both barrels at you right now. Maybe get some of your buddies to ride shotgun.

er…how is that post revisionist?

He forgot the part about SoR pugs walking on water, curing the blind, and their divine struggle in the rise to #1

The part about guilds leaving the server was top notch too, must be where BG has been hiding all those guys.

Yeah. You’re right. JQ hasn’t lost any NA guilds recently. You guys are a bastion of NA stability.

Thank you Iron for choosing SOR. We appreciate your efforts. The work you do during the day can not be overlooked. Without your help, I don’t know if we would have achieved first place. You definitely pushed us over the edge.

For all of those trying to give all the credit to Iron for SOR’s push to number one, you’re out of your kitten minds.

SOR’s NA has been kicking BG and JQ’s kitten for months. This isn’t a new phenomenon. It’s the way it’s been since SOR arrived in tier one. Yes, there are nights when BG or JQ ticks higher for a brief portion of NA prime, but they’re rare and the tick doesn’t last long. With TSYM, CHOO, FEAR, and TW filling up the maps, it’s difficult for JQ or BG to find a borderland that they can have a lot of success in. The great SOR NA guilds have conditioned the JQ and BG guilds to expect to lose often. Losing isn’t fun. A lot of JQ NA guilds transferred off because they were getting sick of being farmed nightly. It’s difficult to find any BG or JQ guild that hasn’t been conditioned to the point that they turn and run as soon as they see 10 TW tags.

SOR’s Asian and SEA guilds have to be given some credit as well. They have faced overwhelming odds since we’ve been in tier one. They face Merc, ND, Foo, ATM….and they don’t give up and transfer off like ND did. They’ve learned to adapt their games to the environment they find themselves in. They don’t quit, regardless of score. If anyone deserves credit for SOR’s climb to number one: it’s those guys. They took a lot of beatdowns and now they’re getting to experience some success.

In addition, you have to throw some credit to the smaller guilds and the Rallian militia. These guys are willing to travel across the map solo and get rolled over by a 50 man zerg just to help where the help is needed the most. I was one of these guys for months until I recently applied to TW. Many of them have left their comfort zones and joined TS so they can be more effective. A lot of them scout, report enemy troop locations, and sit at a supply camp until they get rolled over, just to help the server. They’ll run in little guilds and spend all their guild influence on keeping a +5 buff up for the server. The Rallian militia is a big reason why SOR is number one.

So yes, Iron is a big part of our climb to number one. To overlook the the other members of our great community, the activity of our TS, and the selfless nature of the people on SOR is a travesty to those that drug SOR from the bottom to the top of the NA bracket.

Jaxson Burn.2803:

90 PPT on the weekend? R.I.P SoR

Yeah, we’re only ticking 350 right now. We sure are dead.

Thanks Iron. I can’t wait until the rest of you get here. We’re starting to tick the weekend like we do NA prime.

Give em hell SOR.

Kript.3291:

i hope JQ is planning some come-back this week later, you guys’ performance since reset has been absolutely terrible.

Here’s a recap of what happen in EB few minutes go:

ACs on the second EB floor. you kind of expect JQ to form a organized group and try clear out the BG zerg that was holding the stair and the ACs. Nope they didn’t. They just charged into the Lord circle over and over again, and keep dying. The funny thing is, they kept doing it. And then WM came in pretty much wiped them all.

I really don’t see any sign of coordination and organisation from your EB group.

Other map? well, JQ BL has been staying like that since last night, as for BG BL and SoR BL, JQ has no presence at all or too weak to do anything significant.

Are you guys still doing the new dungeon, or this is a sign confirming some of the trouble ‘rumors’ about JQ i have heard? ( from a rather reliable source).

Something is going on with JQ. Usually after the weekend is over they’ve built a pretty dominant lead. It looks like the transfers to DB and the stacking of Blackgate have JQ on the ropes.

Brilliant. Before it had to be an ele. Now it gets to be a mesmer. The difference: a mesmer can do it every eight seconds.

Why nerf eles if your going to allow mesmers to do it just as effectively and require less of them since the cooldown is shorter?

SgtJanitor.3164:

Captain.5028:

SgtJanitor.3164:

Real good fun fighting with TW / TWL and SF on SoR BL tonight!
Still kicking ourselves in the kitten for letting you TW/TWL guys weasel in from north outer on Bay. >_<

Thanks for all the good fights, GoF did as best we could with what we had!

Really wish we were fast enough to join or at least could have watched that 10 minute battle for inner bay, seemed like an epic one between SoR and BG. Lot of action on the BL tonight, good times

Yeah we battled it out at Bay for about 30 minutes. We were hoping you guys would tap some of their stuff and they would pull out, but to no avail

Once again, great fights guys!

That was a really good fight. I’m pretty sure one of the heavy’s in TWL got a fraps of the whole thing, do don’t be surprised if there is a video of that fight. Pneumos was in an upright position the entire time and usually records many of the TW and friends encounters.

How was TW running in an 80 man zergball when TSYM was on the same map, in a different TS channel, and operating independently from TW? TSYM had about 30-40 on tonight. They weren’t with TW.

The TW front line only had about 10-12 people max. I know there weren’t 30 ranged characters following behind.

I like the propaganda coming out the EMP camp though. Hopefully someday when EMP beats TW with a 1:2 ratio someone will fraps it. I run with the TW group(not in TW or TWL) and I’ve yet to see EMP beat TW with 3:1 numbers.

I understand EMP’s strategy of running in a 50 man group. 50 man groups can stack a lot of swiftness, almost guaranteeing that a couple of EMP will make it to the other side of the map before TW stomps them AGAIN. There’s no one faster in the open field then EMP. I will give them that.

Let’s keep it real. When TW and friends meets EMP in the open field one of two things happens: the entire EMP group rally’s at the repair merchant or EMP stacks lightning fields and runs to safety. I’ve yet to see any other result.

Number one U.S. guild……yeah right.
Undefeated…….maybe in a GvG sprint to the nearest portal.
Never been wiped……If never means every time TW catches up to EMP then yes, EMP has never been wiped.

Carry on. Enlighten us with tales of the big fish, the bigfoot sighting and the enormous size of the TW zerg, because anyone that was on SOR borderlands knows that the fish wasn’t that big, bigfoot doesn’t exist, and the EMP zerg is bigger then the TW and friends group almost every night.

I couldn’t be happier with my decision to come back to SOR. It’s a great community and isn’t a bunch of gold hungry paid transfers. SOR for the win.

I love how every time SOR bumps a recruiting thread or places one on the board, every other server has to bump theres.

Fun fights on reset night at JQ borderlands. There was some tenacious groups from JQ and BG that wouldn’t give up on garrison, regardless of how many times they wiped. I sure hope SOR can get some coverage in our weak time zones, because our NA prime time doesn’t lose to anyone.

Give em hell SOR. We know our door vs Zerg won’t be enough to hold off BG and JQ during our off hours, but at least we can farm badges during NA prime.

Actually, you could just add three commune with pet utility skills.

Commune with Hunter: gain dps equivalent to the output of your currently equiped pet. Active: gain five seconds of Fury and 5 stacks might.

Healthy communion: gain vitality and toughness from pet. Active: 3 seconds invulnerability.

Healers touch: pet grants the player health regen and condition removal. Active: Condition Purge and Regen granted.

You commune with your pets spirit which stows your pet in spirit mode until activated. You see the spirit of your pet following you passively. DPS pets grant the dps of the pet to the player. Tanky pets increase the toughness and vitality of the player. Healing pets grant regen and condition removal. The active effect of commune is to cause your pet to leave commune and activate their F2 skill.

Another change I would like to see is the active of Signet of the Hunt granting you the ability to see invisible enemies for a period of time. You still get the other effect, you just have a way to counter sneak thieves.

For weapon changes they need to add control to the ranger. I propose bolas with a range of 1200(main hand weapon) and a whip(main hand weapon) for 600 range.

Bolas:
Snare(immobilize opponent for two seconds).
Head Shot(stun opponent for four seconds)
One legged take down(Trip/knockdown your opponent, crippled for two seconds after they get up)

Whip:
Crack the Whip(AOE 3 second stun with 900 radius)
Slingshot(wrap the opponent with the whip and sling them in any direction you chose)
Facewhip(Knock the opponent down, stunned when they get up)

If you give Rangers more options with their main hand weapons you will increase the amount of builds they can use. Right now, axe and sword are not very competitive and force you into a box with your builds. Torch and Warhorn are great options for off hands. There just isn’t anything good for main hand weapons. There aren’t enough main hand options.

Just thinking outside the box, but I would love to see some of this implemented at a later date. It might not be this update, but it would be great to see more Ranger love come our way.

I just checked it out this week, and I love it so far. It might be where I end my server hopping ways. There’s a fun bunch on FS.

I’m not on Far Shiverpeaks. I was on ET. Now I’m hopping around to find a destination I like. Obviously, you’re not on that server, so you can go spill negativity on someone elses thread. I’m deciding where to go and am looking for other opinions: not propaganda from some assuming dork.

As far as latency is concerned, or ping, or whatever you want to call it: I find better performance on a Euro server. It’s off peak on a Euro server when I play, so there are way less people on the WvW map. The performance is the same, but there aren’t a bunch of invisible enemies. It was the same on Seafarers Rest when I checked that out. It was the same on Desolation when I checked that out, even after Ruin came over.

1. They are 1st tier Euro.
2. It’s an English speaking server.
3. They’re a fun bunch to play with.
4. There are zero q’s for Americans.
5. There is no threat of them breaking up.
6. All they’re missing is a few nightime/American guilds to dethrone Vizuna.

I’ve been server hopping lately and I think it might be my final destination, as long as Freelancer or Ruin doesn’t transfer there and cause it too collapse.

Has anyone else hopped over to FS to check it out? I thought it was a blast over there.

Longbow was a great long range weapon before the nerf. Now, it’s a situational AOE field, a knockback, and three skills that miss more often then not.

Shortbow is now a ranged stun and a ranged cripple with three skills that do very little damage. The nerf just took the damage away from the shortbow.

Not only has Anet taken away the damage from my longbow, they’ve taken away the damage from my shortbow. My whole set of weapons just got it’s bowstring clipped.

The only way it could be worse is if the only game mode I play was given a 24/7 invisibility buff.

You might be right that longbow isn’t strong in duels. Aside from that, you don’t have to be an amazing player to pile up kills with longbow. I get two or three kills at a time when I pop my root and then barrage the people in the root. It’s a bag festival.

In addition, the longbow gets you kills at structures. In WvW, it’s all about structures. You can kill people on the walls with barrage, rapid fire, qz…When you’re defending it’s easy to find the guys running around in front of the gate with half life and then melt them down with rapid fire. When their corpse hits the ground you drop a barrage on them and pick off the heros. I’m not an amazing player and longbow racks up a bunch of kills there. Longbow really shines defending a bridge or a straight line with piercing arrows. You can stay outside of 1200 range and do AOE damage to everyone coming down the bridge. I don’t know how many bags I’ve piled up doing this, but it’s a lot.

Saying Longbow doesn’t net kills is just plain wrong. If you learn to use it, the longbow shines in a lot of situations.

Am I the only one that hopes that everybody that q’s WvW to do jumping puzzles and farm nodes deserves to griefed in the mouth for eternity?

Go do PVE tasks in a PVE zone. If you’re getting griefed in WvW because you’re wasting space in the q for someone that wants to affect the scoreboard, then you probably deserved to get ballistad to death.

Go pick daisy’s in a PVE zone and let someone into WvW that is there to play WvW.

I don’t think so. FA and SOS got kitten hammered by IOJ. Getting beat by 300,000 points and finishing in second isn’t a reason to move up. We’ll see, but DB got beat by a large amount of points against tier two opponents. They’re going to end up staying. If anything, CD might stay due to their score from last week being higher then DB, depending on how close they can make it, but there’s only one team moving from t3 to t2 and that team is IOJ.

We definitely have some holes to fill.

Hopefully this won’t be another blow-out but I have too much confidence in our oceanic crew against everyone other then HOD. They’ll keep IOJ locked down and our primetime crew is too much for either of them to handle.

We’re likely to be fighting a 1 v 2 this week. We’ll see how much of a fight IOJ and DB give. I’m still expecting to have a capped map by Monday.

IOJ just pounded FA and SOS. They’re the only one moving up from tier three. JQ thumped both DB and CD. It looks like DB will hang in tier two for another week.

This should be more interesting then ET v IOJ v SOS. Both IOJ and SOS depended on their off peak crowds to move up through the rankings. Having a server who’s strength is it’s American primetime crowd in DB paired with IOJ and likely aligned against ET may be interesting.

It will be fun to see how much IOJ has grown during the last week. It will be the first time I get to play DB. A new opponent always makes things interesting.

I’m amped. A new match-up is here.

Thanks for the quick response.

First of all, let me say that I love WvW. It’s the most exciting game mode I’ve played in 20 years. It’s good enough to make me overlook the other great parts of the game: PVE and competitive PvP.

The only news I see is about patches to fix PVE, balance classes, or iron out bugs in general gameplay. I’ve yet to see any patch information or game update that even addresses WvW. That’s what has me worried. I know you’ll get to those changes. It just hasn’t happened yet that I’m aware of and I’m hoping to see the improvements to WvW as frequently as the other improvements to the game.

Thanks again for the response. It’s comforting to know that you are working on WvW as well.

I’m almost positive your rate of fire changes due to a mechanic that doesn’t allow an arrow to fly until one lands. If you’re close the arrow lands faster and you can get more of them off. I’ve even read from an official Anet source that Shortbow is designed to do more damage the closer you are to your target.

I might be wrong, but I don’t think I am.

It’s really obvious when you pop QZ on top of someone or if you pop it at 1200. It’s obvious then that you can only have one arrow in the air at a time.

I understand Anet has a lot on their plates right now. It seems like they are more focused on fixing bugs in PVE then they are addressing WvW. I know that’s helpful for a lot of players, but all I do is WvW.

So, when can we expect to see some changes to WvW? Specifically, when can we expect to see them fix castle doors so you don’t take damage from catapults on the inside of those doors? When can we expect to see the flying cheat addressed and people banned for exploiting it? It seems like the current state of WvW forces servers to use the same shady tactics to compete with servers that do use those tactics in WvW.

I love this game, but am becoming increasingly frusterated to play teams in WvW that use exploits/cheats to ruin WvW. It’s not going to be long before I give up on the game if everyday I’m faced with the choice of playing cheaters or just not playing at all.

True, but rate of fire increases as you get closer to the enemy. Your damage increases the CLOSER you are to your enemy.

That’s why I like the combination of shortbow/longbow. Damage increases as you get closer and as you get farther away.

I use both as my regular weapon set. They synergize incredibly well.

1 trait gets you 20 percent faster skill cooldowns for both weapons.
1 trait gets you piercing arrows(AOE damage) for both weapons.

Yes please.

In WvW, range is king. Being able to have the one on one skirmishing skills in combination with the AOE barrage for structures, choke points, and zerg vs. zerg will result in you getting a lot of kills and being able to stay at range to get those kills.

Shortbow/longbow is a lot of fun.

Some things I like about short bow:

1. Designed to burn down one enemy quickly.
2. Flanking a mob or chasing someone down is a death sentence to whomever is getting flanked.
3. Great support skills for skirmishing with a ranged cripple and a ranged daze/stun interrupt.
4. Good escapability with a jumpback move that creates distance.
5. In combination with QZ it’s a machine gun. With root, qz, and piercing arrows you can burn multiple enemies to the ground quickly.

What I don’t like about short bow:

1. You have to be in close to be effective.

What I like about the longbow:

1. It’s a great weapon to fight from a distance.
2. It’s an absolute must for keep defense, keep seige, and choke point defense. If you don’t have barrage as a ranger in WvW, you’re doing it wrong.
3. In combination with a root elite, barrage gets me more kills then anything and will turn a zerg around to run. Jump off castle wall, root the hos to the ground. Drop barrage on their head. Dodge back out to heal. By the time you turn around your zerg is usually chasing down the few that haven’t been overran.
4. Longbow is great for zerg vs. zerg stand-offs, like at a bridge, or any structure. I simply stay at range and target people that are half-dead or limping already. QZ plus rapid fire is the biggest burst a ranger can do. You just have to learn to time it so you’re landing the majority of the rf on your opponent. I use this to pick up easy kills and then drop barrage on the corpse to pick off the hero that comes to rez his buddy.

Thing I don’t like about longbow:

1. Rate of fire. It is harder to land. You can’t argue that. You just have to learn how to land it, by targetting people that aren’t paying attention to you.

I still carry a warhorn to use for out of combat movement speed, but I find both the shortbow and the longbow essential in WvW and that’s all I care about.

Are your q’s too long? Is your server stuck in a tier of competition you don’t want to be in?

Check out Eredon’s Terrace. What ET has to offer:

1. Non-existent q’s for European primetime. That’s right: no q’s at all.
2. The only medium population server in the American top 10.
3. Room to grow.
4. An already established American and Oceanic presence that is extremely skilled and well organized.
5. Top 4 American server.
6. When world transfers start costing real money, you can transfer from high population or full population for a lower cost if you trasnfer to a medium population server.

Come on Europeans. ET is awfully close to being the number one server in American. Come help us accomplish that goal.