Guild Wars 2

Yea as an ele since launch I think it’s in a pretty bad spot now. All build are only good for support. Kinda boring being the team cheer leader. Just made a reeper and it’s insane how much stronger, go staff, great sword and now you can have higher burst aoe with a faster cast and cool down than any ele staff skills and then if they want to get close and personally just use great sword or switch to reaper. Has light armor just like ele but tons more life and a second life pool on top of that!

Anet needs to wake up, my fully ascended speced ele does less dmg than my exotic speced reaper and has even less survivability. Also none of the ele builds do better than any of the other classes options and they are all generally based around the same bunker concept. Ex ele staff range aoe, weaker than necro staff well bomb or dh traps all while at the same exact time has no close range option if someone gets close, no weap swap to close quarter combat. So weaker range aoe and no close combate vs better range and a close combat option. Sounds fair?

I wish they would bring it back too. really stopped using my engi after it was gone because bombs just aren’t that effective without and I really don’t like nade play just don’t enjoy it. now I found a non nade scrapper play that I’m liking and I can switch between bomb and e gun depending on environment but wish the heal were still there.

So need a little help re building my d/d ele since the last patch. I was and still am full ascended cele armor with strength runes which I don’t really want to change out because the cost in making the ascended was really high. so that leaves trinks to play with. before I had 4 cele ascended trinks and then found I was lacking a lot of power so I switch to full knights ascended trinks and 2 exotic zerker daggers and that worked well for a 0/2/0/6/6 build. now that the water no longer give healing power and the fire trait doing so much burn I have gone to this.

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so I have about 400 healing and about 2600 toughness but I’m not sure if the power is enough. Any opinions on this setup or suggestions?

so engie is not my main but I like to run my engie a bit and getting its equip up. I am totally lost as to what to do since last patch. went from an engie then could run in small party and live to dying in 2 hits. I was a bomb engie with healing bombs and a condi pistol/ shield build with elixir gun and elixir s to get out of bad spots. now it doesn’t even seem like healing turret drops in time before your dead (and that is with running dire armor) so what the hell am I supposed to do? I see there are some pvp build with flame thrower and might + condi builds but they are all pvp so do they work in wvw? if so what armor now since even with dire im burst down in 2 sec, I see more med kit spec so is that what I should use wait for the hit then heal?

All kinds of lost after new patch and need some major help or else ill just be stuck on my main (ele) which at least a thief/gaurd doesn’t kill me in 2 hits.

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So I have not used my ele in wvw in a long time. Finally getting armor closer to where I want it but now kinda bumbed to find mixing celestial armor with celestial trunks is not so great, seems I have the toughness,healing power, vitality and precision where I want it but my power is pretty weak. So I think I need to retract my ascended trinks? Also seems the meta build calls for berserk daggers instead of Knights?

Any advice on what I can change to get some power back without becoming paper again.

Linked build
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Thanks guys hopefully bring my ele to wvw later today.

so I used to use the elixir/hgh build with 2 pistol but seems to have been nerfed or just not what it used to be. so now I have my ele in a place that I am happy with so now time to re figure out my engi. seems most common build right now is 6/2/0/4/2 (I think that is right still not used to the new number system). I never really like nade builds but seems that is most dominate now (maybe I just gotta learn).

So most everything if not everything I have is rabid so is there a good build build around that that people have been using for wvw roam/small zerg? and what runes seem to be working for you guys?

any insight on whats been working for you and why is appreciated and ill continue to dig through these post to see what feels right to me.

thanks all engis.

oh been seeing a lot of healing turret in wvw lately is it actually good now?

awesome thank you so much just what I was after. odd the gendarr one showed up once I went to the map but the Brisbane is kinda screwed only found it cause the new story. is there a jumping puzzle at the gendarr with the steam vent and sawblade thing going on?

so I had both these at 100% complete and now I am missing one poi each 19/20 and 16/17 but I have no idea where they are at all. anyone know where these new poi are so I can finally finish my 100% world completion.

how on earth do I make this. been gooling and it says I need 100 bolt of silk which I have. 1 ecto which I have. and 25 spool of gossamer which I have. I am tailor 500 now and I go in and there is nothing to discover and there is no refinement to make the spool of silk weaving cloth. I see the refinement for the bolt of damask which requires the spool of silk weaving cloth but no way to make the spool.

What am I missing here?

wtf attune swap doesn’t trigger sigil of battle anymore? tried multiple time and no go. seriously? so the ele wasn’t kittened enough you just had to go an kitten em some more huh?

buff ele (duh) wouldn’t even know the class existed in the game anymore if it weren’t that I have one. Anyone ever seen one in pvp? I know I ran across 1 in the entire guild I used to be in and what a surprise over half the entire guild was what?? You guess it the Warrior.

Next point

Nerf Warrior

But Anet will probably not do so.

It is amazing how companies can just blatantly ignore the mass community or even fail to realize when x class has x % of the entire game and x class used to have x % of the game but is now non existent that something is amiss.

Eventually you pull your head outa somewhere or your game dies. Look at Blizzard Anet (a company that you used to know would only release timeless pieces of work but have now adopted the we know better than you attitude and now most of their games only get complaints and pros leaving in waves).

the few critics that try your game for a week and give it a 8-10 don’t keep you game going or alive it is the community that pays your bills. wake up. Too long has the ele been trash patch after patch and even more nerfs even after not one tourney had an ele in the team anymore. Does that warrant more nerfs to you really?

Anyway just kittened after getting one shot killed multiple time all night again even though if at full zerker I couldn’t even hit them as hard as a spring breeze.

Still a hopeful fan since GW1 just don’t screw the ele as long as you did in GW1 I don’t have those kinda patience anymore.

my bad I think alilinke nailed it I was not in combat when trying new build. ok I feel dumb

went from d/d all a rounder (knights armor so not pvt and not zerker) to now going to s/d and trying s/d zerker and didn’t like.

my take s/d is looking really it to me seems still viable in knights but I am working to celestial. others will say (an probably better than me) the s/d really needs full zerker but I tried it and died horribly everytime. so far celestial with knights mix I can live and burst down players (im no pro but neither are they). yes my engi is still easier but now my ele can kill again too rather than try an tickle em to death. also scepter gives you more time to dodge.

does attunement change not count as weap swap anymore? when I swap I know longer get might at all. I really hope anet didn’t just decide to f over all those that paid about 4 gold for the fn sigil to be now useless.

if so anet I have no issue with you changing it up to keep it fresh but then you need to give credits for items when you just go an decide this will now be useless to a certain class (like the ones that do not ever weap swap.)

whoops yea I goofed. for some reason I couldn’t find evasive arcana and thought maybe the patch ditched it for something else.

so kinda tired of d/d cause well cant really seem to kill much anymore.

tried s/d and want to develop it some more but need some input of what armor and such they are running to not be full glass but still deliver a punch (and be able to take more than one in return).

Anyone got anything?

no more evasive arcane and this new elemental surge doesn’t seem so great? Am I missing something? Trying to go to s/d and not sure if there is a good well rounded trait/armor option now?

anyone got something working for em?

your build looks pretty cool. I haven’t been using my ele lately cause just nothing seems to work but your ho is about same as my d/d and yet your dps seems more consistent and better.

So you run clerics with s/d. care to share the rest of your build? Traits/runes/weap etc?

oh and my engi is shanks build which is kitten good but thief is still KING

I would say having and ele and a engi DO NOT run ELE. you will NEED ascended gear just to keep up with others exotiv. ele survivable sure if you really just want to run from any and every fight in game currently. Otherwise face perma lockdowned with lowest healthpool and weakest armor (you tell me how long you think youll live).

Sorry right now thiefs are king, go full zerker gear (you have clock = invincible unless stupid enough to stand in aoe). get best burst and then pwn ppl way above you rank. That’s what im doing. Waited for months for a net to fix thief and they haven’t so now rolling thief and what a surprise all I see in wvw anymore p/d thief hmm think there is a problem ANet?

srry Love/ becoming Loved your game but this is getting a little beyond stupid, even other thiefs are hating on thief class now please OPEN your eyes.

ok got the soldier coat which brought me too 15662hp and I now live and use 0/15/10/15/30 and it rock. using ether renewel as well as signet of air. thinking I only need the soldier coat and that’s it. I am soon to have ascened celential ring and that should help too.

but yea for me 0/15/10/15/30 is looking very good and very fun

lol well screw me I went and got soldiers coat and though leggings but didn’t read stats. Argh well I got the coat but apparently the karma vender sells a diff legging in orr. Just great 42k karma god for something I cant sell or salvage arrrrrr

hmm good point I didn’t know it would cure immob that makes me very very curious. I currently went back to 0/20/0/20/30 and I jus tseem to have more luck with doing 20% more at below 33% hp vs constant 10 (while giving up my own HP).

I am not thinking the 0/15/10/15/30 is not doable but I think I will need some gear first and then a retrial.

oh btw im dumb I don’t have knights acc I have soldiers and cleric here is real build

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so still not above 15k but not as fragile

lol ok just checked tp and looks like soldiers is sentinals. So I can earn that in the future through AC dungeon but it cose way too much in tp so any good alts till I can get some AC daggers or chest and leg?

yea see the hp is where Im at too. You think switch the armor or just go soldier dagger as one above said?

I know ether renewal works for a lot but I just cant sem to time it right and then yes cleansing fire is good too but maybe I just have terrible terrible luck but it seems I am locked down like always and with no HP and light armor and no cloak = dead. so the erth if I pop first and then go into a group they cant lock me down, that is why I use it more than anything else not so much the dmg reduction.

I am even thinking to ditch misft form in favor of cleansing fire as mist form is only 3 sec and it can be hit or miss a lot of times.

ah just don’t no where to go from here.

OK so tried the build and I do like it but maybe I am just off today but I feel I am deing sooner and I don’t really “feel” the extra power so not sure yet, probably need more time (maybe just better players out today).

so this is my current build and I feel like my healing power maybe just went down a touch too far.

any Ideas/opinions of where I could change up some stuff to be a little more survival but not full tank. I am even thinking maybe to switch dagger to zerker to kill quicker? maybe I am just dragging the fight too long so I slip up and die? (don’t get me wrong I get kills too so its not bad just want better)

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first time linking I hope everything goes through

yea that does look interesting. I am only concerned of my vital and healing power but I may give that a go.

water 20 I bounce between abatement and the cantrips give vigor and regen because I still use the two cantrips (earth armor, mist form). Not sure if I can give those up because with earth armor I just seem to get locked down like every second and the mist is the only way for my squishy self to leave.

So running 0/20/0/20/30 and really getting curious about 0/10/10/20/30 now that the new earth trait truly is 10% dmg increase. Now we can use zephyrs for the aura and fury/swiftness while also picking up some toughness and a 10% dmg increase.

What are people’s thoughts? Viable or too mixed to be effective.

Oh amd mainly referring to wvw mix Zerg and roaming.

yea lol I have to agree. Having a lvl 80 engi and lvl 80 ele I think Anet needs to take a step back and look at what they are doing. I agree at one time d/d ele was a bit much but now I am buying ascended for the ele first just to put her on par with my exotic engi.

and thief LOL lets see most burst dps AND most evasive now I mean come on isn’t that what people were crying about the ele for?

If it wasn’t for the fact that ele is just fun to spam skills and keep boons up I wouldn’t be wasting the points and effort on it.

Srry really really liked this class and game since launch but I feel they have gone a bit too far.

so for your answer as an engi you has very recently been killing ele with lol ease (of my same skill) I would say your best bet is the same as fighting thief/mesm/possible guard basically RUN. don’t pick a 1v1 unless vs a ranger and then just try to down him and the run cause you wont get the kill since you cant kill in mist form anymore and the stupid pet will just keep you busy till hes back in his feet.

yea ele is in a rough state now I think.

oh and ty for that site that looks like it will help a ton

hmm didn’t know the guildmissions.

looks like I need to be in a more active guild. ill have to see who recruiting

So It is looking like getting ascended gear is becoming a huge PITA for me. At one laural a day just looking like its gonna take forever. Then whenever im near fractal dungeon no one is there.

So whats the deal how is everyone getting this so easily? Is there something im missing here (a better way to farm laurals than just dallies?)

seems my engi isn’t in NEED of ascended but the ele just relly needs the full stat perks from the items other I sac health or healing too much for power and vise versa.

So all you decked out ascended eles what is the secret?

DXIEdge.2789:

Jesse.1592:

DXIEdge.2789:

Blaze….lol….

First off Zoose is probably one of the best Ele’s NA, if not in the game….

2nd, the build is a tPVP build, where you play like a thief. It’s a completely different style to the conventional Ele builds and if you play like an Ele you die. Your heals aren’t half your health pool anymore and you run around with 70% crit and 62% crit damage in sPVP. The cost? No toughness, and positioning becomes number 1 priority.

It all depends on how you play. Ele’s have so many builds right now you can pick a play style and go with it. 0/20/0/20/30 with valks and divinity is still very good, 0/10/0/30/30 aura share isn’t AS good anymore, but still good. 0/0/20/20/30 and 0/0/10/30/30 bunker builds are still very good, and the new 0/30/0/10/30 builds are as good. It all depends on what your good with, what you prefer in builds and how you wanna play. It’s fantastic.

Personally I would practice positioning and acting like a thief with the build. Because that’s what you are.

Cool so yea I think for myself I will be sticking d/d as I just like the play style but I do feel I want more dmg and less full tank. I think partly the reason I lose the fight I do is cause they went on too long and I slipped up. So if I can end it sooner like my engi and not be glass that is what I’m after. So the 0/20/0/20/30 what is the 2nd trait in air? And with the loss of 10 in water but picking up valks what kinda hp can be expected?

Also is there a general opinion of sigil of restoration vs ether renewall (maybe I just need to work on my renewall timing better)

Ok. So lets start here.

You want a D/D build? If you want there are 2 main builds. 30 water and 20 water.

Recently, the nerf to Bountiful Power promps me to go to a 20 Air build.

Run Zephyr’s Boon and Bolt to the Heart. Most damage/mobility in all game modes.

For water, run w/e works. Honestly there are many traits in the first 20 that can work.

In arcana run the standard 5, 6, Evasive traits.

Amulet you have a couple choices. Soldiers with Berserkers or Valk’s with Berserkers. Both add Power, Toughness. Only issue is health vs. healing. Your choice really. Both are fine.

Runes/Sigils is all personal preference. Same with utilities. Use what you know.

As for heals, I personally have been convinced to go to Glyph. Ether Renewal can be interrupted and is only useful in stability based bunker builds. Signet has been nerfed too many times that the casting amount =/= glyph + regen/protection anymore, and the big heal that you used to get from dodge rolling in water no longer applies making it even less appealing. Glyph also gives you access to perma swiftness (Auras, switching to air, heal = swiftness never leaves im pretty sure)

In DPS builds, run Signet or Glyph. Bunker builds run Renewal.

Any more questions post em here

cool I will give that glyph a shot see how I like it.

as far as armor I am full knghts, is this still the best compromise armor to be using? and my weap are knights as well but thinking to go zerks. I am just hesitant to give up the toughness (thiefs just own me so hard it is annoying)

thinking I will take a break from my engi and switch to 20 air and switch some trinkets and see how it feels then go from there.

yea finally got all my exotic rabid and loving this build> just great damage and greatr survivability. Finally getting my bags with my engi once again (since the bomb nerf).

Thanks shanks this build is just priceless (for me)

DXIEdge.2789:

Blaze….lol….

First off Zoose is probably one of the best Ele’s NA, if not in the game….

2nd, the build is a tPVP build, where you play like a thief. It’s a completely different style to the conventional Ele builds and if you play like an Ele you die. Your heals aren’t half your health pool anymore and you run around with 70% crit and 62% crit damage in sPVP. The cost? No toughness, and positioning becomes number 1 priority.

It all depends on how you play. Ele’s have so many builds right now you can pick a play style and go with it. 0/20/0/20/30 with valks and divinity is still very good, 0/10/0/30/30 aura share isn’t AS good anymore, but still good. 0/0/20/20/30 and 0/0/10/30/30 bunker builds are still very good, and the new 0/30/0/10/30 builds are as good. It all depends on what your good with, what you prefer in builds and how you wanna play. It’s fantastic.

Personally I would practice positioning and acting like a thief with the build. Because that’s what you are.

Cool so yea I think for myself I will be sticking d/d as I just like the play style but I do feel I want more dmg and less full tank. I think partly the reason I lose the fight I do is cause they went on too long and I slipped up. So if I can end it sooner like my engi and not be glass that is what I’m after. So the 0/20/0/20/30 what is the 2nd trait in air? And with the loss of 10 in water but picking up valks what kinda hp can be expected?

Also is there a general opinion of sigil of restoration vs ether renewall (maybe I just need to work on my renewall timing better)

cool thanks all for your insight. I think I am just not good enough lol to play 0/30/ s/d I just get rocked I do need some survivability like my engi has, So is a 0/10/10/20/30 viable? then I could keep zephyr and pick up the new earth trait for dps and toughness (so maybe lose a piece or two of knights for zerks). Or does this leave me in a bad spot for some reason?

Also is only reason or 30ater now for aura share or is the xI still good for condition removal on regen?

So I tried the o/30/0/10/30 build for s/d but I just was way too squishy and died horribly all the time (guess I just am not so good at dodging)

So I have still been using the 0/10/0/30/30 build and run all knights exotic and 2 pieces clerics (acc) to bring up my healing.

I still use the signet of restoration cause I just seem to always have bad luck with ether renewal but maybe I just need to practice it more.

so if I switch out to the 0/0/20/20/30 build how are people keeping with the fury with no zephyr boon? what am I missing here.

seems ths extra 10 in water may not be as effective anymore but I already only sit at about 15k hp so not sure how losing those 10 and healing power is gonna play out but I do feel compared to my engi I just cant down someone on my own really so I want to get more dps or more crit.

so what is peoples that’s on current “rounded” wvw build (traits and gear) where I wont just get one shotted from thief for no hp and will be able to do enough to actually make them feel like they got hit and not just tickled.

Oh and I am a bit on budget so full exotic I can do but I am still a ways away from ascended for my ele.

as always thanks guys.

yea sorry I skimmed but im going to have to disagree.

After playing last night in wvw trying to hold a supply with 8 people (no joke) we could not kill one thief. we downed his other thief friend and had to baby sit him so they couldn’t just heal and be back in the camp and through the whole time one thief would run in do damage to us maybe pick one of us off then run out with permastealth.

Sorry but it was just really stupid that 8 people cant kill one even with aoe and a mesm it was just stupid. I really never thought anything was wrong with this game until that situation.

I have a d/d ele (end engi) and for the most part agreed with the changes anet kept doing to them but wasn’t one of the biggest complaints that they can run in do damage then disengage with no fear (one reason for rtl nerf) but yet it is ok for the thief to do the exact same think to 8 people I mean come on.

So now like other I am building up my lvl 18 thief so I too can have a character that can roam solo and have no fear.

if they need to buff their toughness to compensate then fine but permastealth is just bad idea.

Anyone need cathedral or know of an uncontested server?

I really need the karma vendor for rabids

man totally want this rabid exotic but no one in malchors for the event.

guess ill have to post a set time or something in pve?

know any tips to getting a party to form for this meta event?

hmm so anyone know how or when people will group up for cathedral? seems the area is just dead

ah now I see. well crap now I gotta run thie qeuast to get that karma vendor in mealchor

cool so just tried it and seems it works better for me however I only see rabid in rare? so do you not use exotic trinket pr pistol?

wow this build looks exactly what I am after. Sadly my confusion focused bomb toolkit build just isn’t working anymore I get locked down and not enough toughness then dead.

what do you do your ruins in your armor? undead?

is 800 healing power really that needed? I have a mix on cleric and knight accessory and cleric amulet all with valk jewel and am only at 544 healing power.

Hopefully didn’t just blow my money cause just bought my exotics and hate being ganged by kitten thieves.

current spec full knights amor with 2x superior water rune and 2 time major water rune and still trying to the monks.

all accessories with valks jewels sitting at 15,776 health
544 healing power
one rine of cleric one knight and same for earings and then cleric amulet.

I did OK in WVW before with all green knights accessories just cant kill thieves so really hoping this will help.

thanks for all the comments guys it has helped alot. So I ended up with the 0/10/0/30/30 build and do d/d and cary a staff in going to support my fort. Been having alot of fun in wvw lately wish i had tried it earlier and with the new build/traits I have a new found joy in my ele.

Thanks a bunch ele group

sorry Im not all up on the lingo pvt? I know pve and pvp and wvw but what pvt?

As for your comment on making my own build if you read I am asking for help on viable builds for wvw as in is a zerker staff viable. the equip to make is not cheap and so a little help from others if others have tried it to not make the same mistake (if it is non viable) is a big savings in money.

pvp is one thing where it is all free to tweak but wvw is not and it isnt cheap to go down one road only to find out it is a dead end so sorry to upset you but i dont feel like wasting a ton of gold to go down a pad path.

Hey ele community so been using my ele since launch and mostly just pve and some wvw and spvp for fun.

So been liking the d/d 0/10/0/30/30 build for s pvp with devinity runes and valk/beserk

in pve i run s/d because I find it is too hard to run with a group so I cant really go staff and since the ai is dumb it will just stand there and take the big dragons tooth hits etc so I run a condition build with carrions and undead and a 30/0/20/0/20 build and that seems to work ok for me giving my life through carrions and toughness + condition through traits.

So now the issue I am runnin into is in wvw you need to share the kits as your pve and that isnt working so great because I want to run staff in wvw but staff condition is good at keeping people away it never really accomplishes any kills.

So the question I have is zerker ele viable in a groupe for wvw? I have no problem buying a second set of high teir armor (one time cause im not too rich) and going for a high dps staff build somehting like 30/30/0/0/20.

I just dont want people to easily run out of my meteor shower/valcano etc. And really do not want to find out that build is not viable after spending tons of gold on equip for it.

So any wvw ele out there give me a clue what is a good build. I see some use the d/d 0/10/0/30/30 build in wvw too but when I seem to run across them they just arent effective in a mob.

Thanks to all my ele community.