Guild Wars 2

To azuzephyr: No your summation of what he was trying to accomplish is shoddy at best. He was advocating being kind to others and to place blame where it is due. New players have just as much right as you or I joining ranked games and compete for rank. Yes, some have no idea what they are doing, they will loose often and wise up. Yeah, I agree it sucks that it costs you, but I think that just somehow we will survive a loss in rank standing. I know shocking right!

“You need to stop trying to blame the victim, people becoming irritated by people deliberately being a selfish irritant – there’s nothing out of line with that whatsoever, so I suggest you take the silk gloves approach to the source itself tbh.”

Then you all are doing it wrong by that logic. The only reason these players are in your matches is due to a poor matchmaking system which allows new blood to end up in games with veterans while both sides are clearly unequal in terms of time spent and rank points earned. So, by your own logic, be kind to others ( for both the new blood and the old) and bring it to the devs attention (once again calm and collected they do a good job and I’m sure this issue will get fixed). But literally nothing, gets fixed by you “taking it to its source” and yelling at new players (even the dense ones that are rude) you just foster a negative environment. There are many new SPvP players, myself included, that are being stigmatized. I want to get better at SPvP I cannot do that in Hot join because then I cant join the same team as my buddy and when I join solo que I get harrassed for being low rank or having a legendary.

Side story: Last good game I played I was on my ele. D/D both incinerator skin. Some SPvP veteran Hero decided I must be trash because of this and was on my tail the whole game (thief). Much to his dismay, I not only managed to ignore his feeble attempts to spike me with well timed dodges (I know all the thief tricks 1000K hours of thief will do that) and floated between points upsetting team fights. It took me screwing up and getting on the bad side of a 3v1 to be downed and they kept me so while jumping and dancing on my downed body till 10% health and ran off. I then mistformed to LoS them and rally. Not 5 seconds later I humbled that thief (He came back and tried it again when I had no objectives to go to) while waiting to be booted to the lobby.

Moral of the story, just because some new PvE centric players are bad at the game type and are rude doesn’t mean we all are. If I am not doing something right, I want to be told so I can get better because I like winning. Likewise, I will share that to the next guy. I loose lots of matches because of a bad team, I don’t go slewing insults and acting entitled, I jump into the next one and once again do what I can to win. So, once again in the vein of The Gates Assassin: be nice to your fellow players. If they don’t take your advice, ignore them and move on. Its just a game.

EDIT: removed ancient signature.

azuzephyr.7280:

There’s still no argument in what you’re saying.

Every point you’ve made is basically based on… nothing.

‘Blame anet’ – you blame them

’don’t be a kitten’ you don’t be one by selfishly joining a ranked team game that you can’t/wont contribute to just for the reward

’it’s a nice thing to do’ so is considering other people in ranked before you join

‘not all casuals want hotjoin’ not all high level pvpers have 4 guildies on/available at any given opportunity

’there’s a person on the end of the character’ too kitten right, why are people screwing over 4 others behind their character by messing up their ranked game?

All your points are just what you want. Again; have cake and eat it.

That’s basically it. Please stop trying with the Mother Theresa attitude trying to cover up the fact that people are deliberately messing up part of the game and trying to get away with it by acting innocent and trying to demonize the enemy.

Inexperience isn’t a crime, far from it. But forcing yourself into a ranked game when there is a clear alternative more appropriate for your experience just because you selfishly want the better reward, that is.

If I join a solo que match, please enlighten me, in what way did I just “Force” my way in?

Also, all that user said was basically to take it easy and that you should just be nice. You are the one getting hostile over it, think about it. I can see how teaching new players over and over can be annoying. And I know personally from literally HUNDREDS of dungeon runs how frustrating it can be to have one player dragging you down only to have it happening the very next group. I personally, take the mentor approach and many players do pay it forward. But the point is, its a game, so your rank goes down because some guy is playing poorly, take care of you and move on. You help no one with your current state attitude. End of the day, its a video game and should be given the appropriate emotional responses. Loose a game, oh well, how about another?

runeblade.7514:

Sube Dai.8496:

Warriors are heavy. Heavy should mean slow…

Then that means light means fast.

So a football jock should run slower than a book nerd?

In high school I was a book nerd and I could out run any of the foot ball jocks in a sprint. I was smaller, lighter and more agile. They could beat me in the long game but the sprint, not happening. They trained in foot ball while I read books and trained in Tae Kwon Do.

So yes, all things equal, the big heavy guy will loose to the little guy hands down. And this game is supposed to be no different, that is the idea of balance. Elementalists and thieves should have the highest mobility because of the low armor rating and the lowest hp base in the game while warriors should be the slowest with the highest health pool and armor rating in the game.

Personally I would address this issue by requiring a target for the warrior rush skills much like thief infiltrators strike works and decreasing the range the rush covers.

1) Dagger/Dagger and Short bow for zerg or more defensive play and Sword/Dagger for roaming and duels. Dagger Dagger is my only real constant set.
2) 10/0/0/30/30, I also sometimes run 10/30/0/15/15 and for more defense 10/30/30/0/0
3) PVE, WvW roaming/zerging.

For WvW I mostly use dagger storm, but if my intention is to go out roaming, normally I will take thieves guild based on the design of my build. I find them to be a very good tide turner should I make too many mistakes or another player jumps in on my 1v1. But outside of that I rarely use them Ill normally take basilisk venom because its a shorter cool down and has better utility for pve. I will say though, for purposes of learning to play thief and leveling to 80 I used them exclusively, they are great for a turn of tides. But after maxing out I find the skill to be a little lack luster in comparison to the other elites utility.

Zumy.6318:

atheria.2837:

Heiltdo.2891:

I’m so sorry you can’t 3v1 people anymore, maybe you should realize youre class is now what they call “Balanced”.

Ele is a very high skill celling class, pro’s do extremely well, and new players get destroyed.

Your friend probably didn’t have any idea of how Op Eles were at WvW.

Being one-hit-down-dead isn’t what “balance” looks like…

Lets all thank god, Ele isnt “one-hit-down-dead”.

Yeah, I haven’t played in over 3 months and ele was just an alt, I mained a thief. On a whim I got on my ele the other day. Hadn’t touched it for 2 moths before taking a 3 month break from the game. I have yet to have issues. I’m totally offensively trainted and geared with staff. I see no problems with the class, its balanced, takes actual skill to play now rather than the insane face tanking that was D/D before all the balances.

Rawnoodles.1398:

Back to 230 in 30 minutes.

Never underestimate JQ.

Indeed, never underestimate JQ. Thats one thing I learned from fighting against you on SBI and from playing with you guys this weekend. It was an honor to be apart of that push. Amazing community coordination and lots of fun! Hope to see a lot more of it in the weeks to come!

Sweet deal. Ill put my insomnia to good use tonight then it seems! Thanks for the tip. We’ll all keep trying.

Speaking of which, could you guys give a window of time thats most advantageous to attempt getting in?

I know I have, funny enough, SoS has become not full. That’s a scary thought. Well keep trying perseverance for the win right?

JQ still full. Ill be here trying to get in as long as it takes. Thanks again for the support guys!