Guild Wars 2

Dayra.7405:

Make the number of maps (with smaller population limit than now) dynamic.

Whenever the servers have a queue for all WvW-Maps a new server start a new WvW-map. While they are active they produce score-ticker as usual.

When the population shrinks the map saves it’s state and is shut down and the remaining people are distributed over the still active maps or Lion’s Arch.

=> Less Culling and Laag problems, due to reduced population per map.

=> Less Queues due to additional dynamic maps

=> Less PvD, as the maps are shutdown while there isn’t enough mass to fight.

Theres definitely going to be a lot of problems with this system, if you want it to work you need to think it through better. For example if one server was doing very well on the extra map and it went to a saved state then does the score for the map still count? If it does then the other 2 servers wouldn’t be able to do anything to recapture the map until population increases. If it doesn’t then the server that put in the effort to capture the dynamic map will see their effort wasted. And the shutting down part can be quite irritating for the player on the map. I can already see a lot of ppl complaining.

Meow has definitely upped their game ever since coming to KN. Their devotion to WvW shows through their game and willingness to improve and improvise.

Glad you are on our side.

Edit: I think I will add a score update.

When I read this thread I sometimes wonder if I am in the right forum. I mean… why Flava?

Edit: Nm, I reread the first page. Now things are coming togather.

Jayne.9251:

I’ll just leave this here …

*whistles

*wanders off …

lalallalala …..

Those are some chicken looking cookies…

Our Asian/Oceanic fails to gain 600 ppt for the first time.?
Looks like we finally found our home in Tier 2 among the most civilized servers. Good place to stay.

Happy Lunar New Year. I won’t mind a Hong Bao if someone wants to send me one but I will settle for a score update.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Psychatog.8246:

DisplayName.7802:

Totally not from SF :S.
Any tips to beat Kaineng?
Would appreciate lol.
Any weaknesses they have? :P

yeah flank the zerg balls and they fall over
dominate them in the NA to the point that they cant recover in the oceanic
put aggressive pressure on WM in EB, they cant fight in the open field at all
cap behind WM because they don’t play defense
have decent oceanic coverage, if they cant pvd then they wont win.

basically its very little skill and all coverage with them. they will just wait you out in NA then pvd everything in the morning with their oceanics.

LOL, i dont know what else to say. i have no idea what you’re talking about. Kain has 24/7 coverage and big numbers. We have strong NA, strong Oceanic, strong Asian and good EU coverage. We’re beating and out-scoring DB and Mag in NA primetime with an average 400 PPT. We have improved dramatically in this match-up, playing defensive, building sieges at the right places in our keeps/towers , using team work, rallying on commanders when needed, having small groups capturing supply camps etc. As we progress tiers, we are getting better as a server and we are using more better and efficient tactics in dealing with numerous problems that comes our way.

Ahhh… you are the one they are talking about… the one with the big chest. If you can’t tell from this match-up that we are the ones who are lacking then I don’t see how how much more you can improve (then I suddenly recall all those kungfu movies where the master tells his student his cup is full and can’t contain any more water. He has to first empty it before he can take more.)

Sure we are improving but dramatically? And while Mag/DB may have been overly critical, they are not totally wrong in their assessment of our strength/weaknesses. They have given us lessons that we will sorely need in the future and I for one will be sad that we are not fighting against them again next week.

loopi.7913:

I wish there was another way to obtain commander. Any one with 100g can get it, they don’t even have to understand the basics of wvw. There are some amazing commanders and then those that make you want to bang your face on your keyboard. If tags were somehow obtainable by experience then we would see a lot more veteran players that should have the tag. Some of those hardcore wvw’ers don’t have 100g to buy a blue Dorito tag, they are too busy paying for siege and upgrades.

I gave a suggestion in another thread about how to get the commander tag.

We have a score/exp system based on what we do in WvW. Our kills, how much we build/repair/upgrade, how much objectives we help capture, how much we help heal,rez other players.

So once we reach a certain exp level, we can choose to be a specialist. Like the siege specialist gets bonuses for using siege, the supply specialist can carry more supplies and movement buff and whatever other specialist. And the commander specialist get defense buff and their blue hat. The bonuses can increase with rank. Specialist can only be chosen once and only changed like by spending 10G.

While this may not ensure talented leaders are commanders, it can at least ensure that the commanders have had experience in WvW and really have a desire to lead since since other specialist types are better off for the average player.

Frankly I hope next week will still be KAIN/MAG/DB… we still have so much to learn. And all these drama on the forum, yummy.

The problem is the commander might actually just be a random person… or worse… but not to say this isn’t a good idea. The thing is they have to first fix how a commander rank can be obtained.

kfarb.6732:

kiwiburner.2186:

wads.5730:

this thread is severly lacking, the T2 thread has more posts.

wtb more drama

Hehe, well.

In a last ditch effort to stop Kaineng taking the lead, several Maguuma scumbags in KBL were stacking on the invuln point behind the south-west camp and repeatedly taking it.. of course, in the meantime, Kaineng recapped DB, and all of the southern towers, but its the principle.

Felt stupid that I let them kill me (I was trying to get a shot of their invulnerable message appearing as I grenade barraged them). Anyway, their guilds are hereby named and shamed.

Thank you for your noble efforts. These players and guilds will be severely punished by the Maguuma Alliance. I’m willing to bet these players also kill people in jumping puzzles, sneak into spawn where you yourself are invulnerable, and sometimes take mesmer portals or use stealth. Most dishonourable.

And don’t forget killing “defenseless” dolyaks , laughing and dancing at inappropriate situations, hiding when no one is playing hide and seek, seeking comfort in large groups, building rams to hit walls. Why these people are the worst! They should be punished by being always pushed to the back of the queue.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Even though in the beginning of the reset we witnessed mag and db ganging up on kain, but we never gave up and we will never give up. heres the latest score

Nah, they were not ganging up on us, they were just staying to their lanes. I have seen them fight each other when someone forgets to stay on their lane.

Remove the *************** Commander book and refund everyone their 100G.

If you want a Commander Icon in PvE, call it something else; like “Please look at me” book that you can buy for 100G but is not usable in WvW.

For WvW, they should have a ranking system based on your kills, how much you build/repair, how much you heal/buff your team, how many objectives you capture. When you reach a certain rank, you can choose to be a specialist. Like a siege specialist get bonuses when using siege, a commander gets his commander icon/def buff, a supply specialist can carry more supplies and gets movement buff. And whatever else you can think of.

Bottom-line is I want commanders to have some real experience in WvW before they are allowed to carry that icon.

Next week will probably be the real test. A pity (or lucky?) transfer ends before so…

There are several factors that determine lag.

The major factors are the speed of your data connection and the distance to the server you wish to connect to. And to a lesser degree your CPU and Video Card.

But if you consider the fact that most Asian countries play on N.A servers and they have a big pacific ocean to cross whereas E.U crosses over the Atlantic (I am talking about the data lines) then you are definitely better off.

In conclusion I think there will be some lag but I don’t think its very noticeable.

This could very well happen next week! Looks like fun!

And this will answer a lot of questions as well!

Already looking forward to it!

ryan.3915:

Why do we only have half the posts of mag, db and fa?

No idea. But its almost 2 PM, the N.A guilds should be retiring and the Oceanic/Asian guilds should be taking over. Looking foward to see how my fellow SGs perform on CD.

Tsitsaron.6854:

Transferring to Tier 1 servers (JQ,SoS,BG & SOR) is near impossible right now. If your planning to transfer a guild of your size with ease to a competitive WvW server, Kaineng is on the way up

I am a SG from Kaineng and I have to say that although there are SGers in Kaineng, there is no SG guild that I know of. Still we are probably the only server with a low enough population to accept large guild transfers and yet are still highly competitive in WvW. You can be the pioneer SG guild in Kaineng if you like and attract other SGers. There are lots of Taiwanese here though (and a large percentage are females…) due to the guild SoS and Koreans from WM. We can talk about the unfairness of National Service in our respective countries.

Littlefeather.8623:

Hello everyone!
I’m pleased to announce a WvW Boot Camp for Kaineng, hosted by NEO Alliance. With new transfers and current winning status, we can not get complacent, there are still a lot of things to learn. We’ve gotten lazy, and a lot of the times we’ve started to mindlessly zerg around because we’ve felt that we don’t have to do anything else.
Even though our score is impressive, we still have a lot of work to do. This boot camp is for everyone, not just new players! New transfers, regardless of skill, are encouraged to learn how how we WvW. We would also like to encourage primarily PVE players on the server who have been afraid to jump into WvW to show up and learn.
Date(s): 22 Jan, 23 Jan, 24 Jan
Time: 5PM PST Server time
Location: Kaineng BL
Please feel free to jump in ventrilo with us as well Vent Info: NEO.maxfrag.net Port: 44155
Some of the topics we will discuss and demonstrate will include but are not limited to the following:
Siege placement
Communication
X’s on map and what they mean
Predicting enemy movement
Scouting
Movement during assault and defense
Refreshing siege
Supply
Again, all are invited regardless of experience, this will be a combined effort involving any one with good input as well.

Is it really a good idea to post this here? Or are you hoping for gate crashers for us to practice on.

People should ignore this thread, I don’t even think the TS is from Kaineng.

Kardiamond.6952:

Take a tier 1 guild of taiwanese that play like robot, send them in one of the last tier servers, and this is what happen.

If you are talking about WM, they are Koreans, not Taiwanese.

Nuzt.7894:

Wow that score is just wow. Did DR/EBay quit ? AR/NSP put up more of a fight then that over reset weekend. Just ride it out, they will move up

Wasn’t meant as an insult, just popped in to see how it was going and was shocked. Ya no night presence will kill a server score very fast against Kain.

They actually put up a very good fight in their BLs. We had a hard time taking back their garrisons and like you said, the lack of coverage as compared to Kain is the reason why theirs scores are low.

Hey DR! Nice to see that you still have the fight in you! I have to take a break now, hope you are still there when I get back!

Also noticed that a lot of people are PMing me that they love me. If you do please give the gold that you mention for free.

I was gonna post this yesterday when it still on topic but I was busy.

Regarding spawn camping, I know that generally our server discourages spawn camping. (See screenshot but that was taken in last weeks match) Of course there are bound to be people who spawn camp anyway and Kaineng WvW is getting a lot attention and transfers lately so can’t help who we get.

And sometimes spawn camping is a “tactical” decision. I won’t go into that since I don’t really approve of it myself.

And Kaineng. Really no kidding.

In Kaineng hanging out with the Taiwanese. You should have posted this a month ago, I was wondering where the hell all the Singaporeans were.

Rob.7624:

General.7803:

WM want to go to high tier with low tier player.
I thought [MEOW] is good talent guild that not skilled, not specially, but they seem to have good mental because we saw they come and fight us and dead and dead and dead again again. I like this play for fighting hardly that high tier.
So i send massage to [MEOW] that "Let’s go with us and break high tier and work hard and finally go to T1. and told them our journey identity(?).
After break T5, ago go to T4, I will send massage other talent guild in T5.
WM didn’t send massage to high tier guild. will just low tier.

Dude I love you for just trying to speak English.
And even though others might not, I understand what you’re saying.
But poaching entire guilds from their servers is seriously uncool and upsets the balance of WvW thus ruining thousands of peoples fun over the months that you do it.
You may be winning yes, but at really what cost?

I agree with you. Lets not influence other server guilds. If they want to come to Kaineng it should be of their own volition. And frankly we need more NA guilds so if you’re gonna poach anyway, poach some NA guilds. :P

Dayra.7405:

Hm in real world new foreigners aren’t put in the army as well and should they come originally from an opponent they sometimes even get be arrested.
Why don’t we have something like that in WvW:
- You are NOT allowed to enter WvW in a world where you are not resident since 14 days
- And your waiting-queue priority depends on the time of your residency on this server, i.e. being a loyal citizen on a world gives you a bonus over server-hoppers that clog your queue.

Rule 1 will also penalize new players that just bought the game. What you probably want is for rule 1 to be enforced on transferees.

Rule 2 will also penalize new players who may never get the chance to play WvW if they keep getting pushed back in the queue for older players.

Just when it looks like Kain might lose the entire AR BL (remaining strongholds were DB and BB), we rallied whatever men we could and we held out…

Screenshot 1:
A screenshot of the stalwart defenders who stood @ AR BL BB. That was all the force we had on the BL at that time. We were all total strangers from different guilds but we banded together and we held the line.

Screenshot 2:
The enemy! Well about half of them. The other half were on the the bridge or on the island.

I hope AR and NSP/DH will come to love us Kains because I think we will be staying in Tier 6 for some time since Tier 5 ratings are not moving much… or unless we get another 100+ change in ratings in Tier 6…

Wryscher.1432:

Kiexcolo.2416:

I will talk a bit about my own experience for this week’s match.

This week’s reset was the first time I played WvW for real (Previously was just a guild event [SoS] by Chaster and learning how to do the JP) A lot of people in the guild were excited about the reset and Chaster was telling us to sleep early and gather at 8 am (+8 GMT timezone for the guild) for the server reset (though Chaster himself was late…)

+1H after the reset, I tried to jump into EB but was placed into a q so I went to HoD BL where it was really stacked in KAIN’s favour. But 15 mins later I got into EB and that was a different matter. KAIN had captured SM but was fighting hard on 2 fronts. Jiang Gun was leading WM in the assault on GoM side while Valkyrie Slayer was leading the rest of KAIN on the defense of Orge Hill against HoD.

I joined the WM side for a while and I must say that they are a really organized WvW guild and knows what they are dong. They were constantly on the move and their sieges were brutally efficient. VS had more trouble trying to organise the KAIN mob at first and lost some ground but after a while people started listening and the defense started taking shape. There were many battles back and forth.

KAIN did not really have the superiority in numbers due to the split in numbers on the 2 fronts unless HoD and GoM also split their numbers to fight each other but I didn’t really see that happen. There was one instance where WM went to help VS in assaulting HoD and GoM took the opportunity to take back their side of EB and even take anz from HoD but in this case their forces wasn’t split. Later this force tried to assault north SM but we manage to hold them off with less than 10 people as they did not really put up any effective siege weapons. Conclusion is I had a lot of fun on day 1.

However day 2 came and KAIN had captured just about everything and HoD and GoM seemed to have lost their fight. Eventually KAIN zergs would chase HoD or GoM back to their spawns and set up camp there. I was pretty disappointed at how some people from my server spawn camp but I don’t see the point to it and it discourages people from playing WvW which is not what we want.

I hope HoD and GoM can organise their forces on one map so we can have the kind of battles we had on day 1 but you guys are probably discouraged right now. Please bear with us for the week as we move up to the next tier. Hope everyone has fun next week.

Not really trying to start crap, but since it was posted by someone on your own server, I thought maybe you would be more inclined to look at it, read it, and then see why some of the things get said about WM.

To sum up some of the key points.
At reset one guild was assigned to stop a server.
The rest of the server went to deal with the another server.
At one point the one guild assigned to stop a server had to go help the rest of the server stop the one server they were suppose to be stopping because they couldn’t seem to get it done.

Yes you are all Kein now. Yes you all work together. Yes you will be going places. And grats. But if that, written by someone on your own server doesn’t sound like you are being carried you might be delusional.

I am just saying what I witnessed in EB, if you choose to ignore the fact that KAIN dominated in all the other BLs where WM presence was very small and that 10 non-WM Kainites held N SM against GoM’s main force to interpret that we are being carried by WM then so be it. There will be no convincing you otherwise and I don’t plan to, Chaster has spoken at great length about this and I don’t want to waste my time.

I will talk a bit about my own experience for this week’s match.

This week’s reset was the first time I played WvW for real (Previously was just a guild event [SoS] by Chaster and learning how to do the JP) A lot of people in the guild were excited about the reset and Chaster was telling us to sleep early and gather at 8 am (+8 GMT timezone for the guild) for the server reset (though Chaster himself was late…)

+1H after the reset, I tried to jump into EB but was placed into a q so I went to HoD BL where it was really stacked in KAIN’s favour. But 15 mins later I got into EB and that was a different matter. KAIN had captured SM but was fighting hard on 2 fronts. Jiang Gun was leading WM in the assault on GoM side while Valkyrie Slayer was leading the rest of KAIN on the defense of Orge Hill against HoD.

I joined the WM side for a while and I must say that they are a really organized WvW guild and knows what they are dong. They were constantly on the move and their sieges were brutally efficient. VS had more trouble trying to organise the KAIN mob at first and lost some ground but after a while people started listening and the defense started taking shape. There were many battles back and forth.

KAIN did not really have the superiority in numbers due to the split in numbers on the 2 fronts unless HoD and GoM also split their numbers to fight each other but I didn’t really see that happen. There was one instance where WM went to help VS in assaulting HoD and GoM took the opportunity to take back their side of EB and even take anz from HoD but in this case their forces wasn’t split. Later this force tried to assault north SM but we manage to hold them off with less than 10 people as they did not really put up any effective siege weapons. Conclusion is I had a lot of fun on day 1.

However day 2 came and KAIN had captured just about everything and HoD and GoM seemed to have lost their fight. Eventually KAIN zergs would chase HoD or GoM back to their spawns and set up camp there. I was pretty disappointed at how some people from my server spawn camp but I don’t see the point to it and it discourages people from playing WvW which is not what we want.

I hope HoD and GoM can organise their forces on one map so we can have the kind of battles we had on day 1 but you guys are probably discouraged right now. Please bear with us for the week as we move up to the next tier. Hope everyone has fun next week.