Guild Wars 2

Recruitment is open for gank. We are recruiting gank in bulk, so if you have a team of solid gankers/roaming type players and are interested in joining a GvG guild, send me a whisper. Maximum group recruitment size is 5, we will not recruit any more than that if you have more than 5 players in your team. Any solo gank players that want to apply feel free. Interview > Skill level trial > Activity trial > Membership.

Our gank composition for 15s will be 3 players. And 4 for 20s.

Gank Classes needed: Mesmer, Thief, Ranger, KS warrior

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ANY RECRUITS that meet the requirements and pass initiation trial will be paid for a full transfer. We are currently in Aurora Glade

[II] is a WvW Focused guild looking to recruit serious and dedicated players that enjoy competitive fights and teamwork. We will be raiding/active from 7pm – 9pm gmt and maybe longer depending on the day. We raid 5 days per week from Sunday to Thursday with Friday/Saturday days off. We currently have a roster of 14 core players who have been playing together for quite some time in different guilds before we reformed together as II.

Guild Leader : knackers.8562 (Mr Tofu , Four ö Four) – Former NA GvGer driver/commander
Officers: wemil.7052

Guild requirements :
-Dedicated to improve and work as a team
-Rep in raids and GvG is compulsory, and you will not get past trial without getting to know our entire team as a whole
-Changing builds to suit the team synergy
-Website registration (Build/strategy guides are there)
-Teamspeak 3 (MIC is compulsory for ALL players)
-Turning up for raids at least 4 ~ 5 times a week (Real life events is an exception)
-No drama, keep your kittenis to yourself
-Recording gameplay if required to

Who do we want :
-Mature and responsible players (We dont want to be chasing you around all the time)
-Friendly players
-Vocal players who are not afraid to give or recieve criticism, state opinions on guild synergy and changes that could be made
-Players experienced in GvGs
-Players experienced in WvW

What you will get :
-A small group of friendly and close players
-Class and Guild synergy training, Learning to hold on your own in smaller groups of 15 ~ 25 againts larger or better opponents
-Regular GvGs
-Regular raids
-Private teamspeak
-Tpvp / 1v1, 2v2 , 3v3 dueling

Trial Processing:
-Interview (Past experience, Class understanding, Life schedule for attendance)
-Duel 1v1 (You will be dueled by the guild leader or a member of the same class, you will be tested in understanding your opponent and adapting to their builds)
-2 weeks activity/personality check

What are we looking for :
-1 Necromancer
-1 Guardian
-1 Warrior
-2 Mesmers
-1 Killshot warrior/ranger
-1 d/d elementalist (High experienced required)

We are a brand new WvW focused guild looking to recruit players from Australia and South east asia or any other late sleepers from EU. Our time zone will be +10 UTC and will be planning on raiding as soon as we hit 10 to 15 players. And planning on doing

Who are we looking for?
We are looking for active and social players that has the mindset to improve as we will be planning to get into hardcore raiding in the far future. As for now we will act as a night/morning crew for the server. All members also require TS3 to join this guild as all raids will be done on voice commanding.

What classes do we need?
At the moment we are taking in all classes.

New to WvW?
No problem, we all have to start somewhere right?

Contact:
Mr Tofu, Four ö Four

Nice feed back, it is true that it may be a very situational skill but one i find usefull for pushing chokepoints especially timed right. And this trait only takes 10 into Zeal, so you are still able to maintain virtues such as double stability. With PoV shouts also convert burn into Aegis which may be usefull if coordinated by using enemy purging flames againts them if timed right. And it definitly wouldnt be planned as a main source of damage but an extra source in addition to weapon skills. In its own way its also a small souce of damage mitigation. And with future patch when blocking produces Aegis, wouldnt this build go well with mace and shelter.

The only weakness is a question if this attack is affected by retaliation, as hitting 25 targets with retaliation is very devastating

Ive been theory crafting some builds with my team in WvW and is wondering how does shattered Aegis do. All my guardians run semi zerker while maintaining survivability so we all have high crit chance and power/crit damage.

Shattered Aegis does 500(with 25 might) and crits for about 800 ~ 900 damage, one guardian applying it to 5, and having 4 guardians applying it to 20 (one aegis guard per party) will add 50k overall damage (assuming every single player hits 5 people) to the kill zone on push just with one skill. And thats assuming it doesnt crit.

Ive read topics on how people see this trait is useless or may it only be underrated.

What are peoples opinions on this.

Defense is meant to slow down for back up, not to hold up on its own. You cant expect to push out a 40 zerg with omegas with only 5 people, youre meant to slow them down, deny any rams, and call in backup

Or one way to fix things slightly maybe would be ALL servers will only recieve points from their fixed towers such as BL towers/keeps, their side of EB if they hold it, they will get no additional PPT from holding other peoples towers/keeps but will decrease their ppt. That way, the tick of one specific server is only limited by his own and they cant go over the top by ticking 695 at night.

And give ppt to kills, not stomp, but actualy kills. This way, the server with the stronger prime time would have the better chance, as the night capping servers wont be able to stack ppt while people sleep.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Knackers.8562:

No jumping puzzles, the new way of upgrading maybe, gets people working on their own instead of following a blob. NPCs that scale, i relize Eotm have powerful npcs, npcs in wvw should scale to that lvl or even more. Say someones running a 80 man blob, while youre outnumbered in a map of 15, why not make an NPC as strong as SMs buffed lord with 10x the hp =o. Npcs that actually can help ALOT instead of getting steamrolled the moment a zerg decides to tickle it.

Awful idea. The last thing WvW needs is more NPCs and more powerful NPCs. We’re here to fight other people not PvE.

Band-aid solutions of buffing NPCs when your outnumbered do nothing but make WvW into PvE, except with far lower rewards. Who wants to play that?

Anet really needs to address the population issues that causes outmanned buffs.

He said “scaling NPC’s” which means they are equally hard to kill by one person or 100 persons. Which in my optics promotes more good than bad.

By the way you didn’t contribute to a solution yet.

Simply stating that anet needs to populate wvw maps isn’t nearly a solution to the problem without stating how they should do that…

Still a terrible idea. We’re not here to PvE. And here’s my contribution: Don’t waste dev time doing band-aid fixes (of which EoTM is one) when it is better spent fixing the root issue.

Not exactly PVE, too many servers not enough wvw dedicated, the balance between numbers is never going to be fixed, or it will at least take a long long time, maybe even years. Scaling NPCs just helps the lower numbered crew fight, say youre having a 15 man crew at night defending againts a server that has 40 ~ 50 nightshift. Why not add something to help them, such as scaling NPCs that actually are able to fight and contribute to the lack of numbers.

That would motivate the lower numbers to actually defend and fight back. And adding a usefull outnumbered buff such as building faster/needing less supply would also help. The idea is to scale the people to fight at a more equal strength instead of numbers just steamrolling everything. Besides, when 50 people are steamrolling maps at night its just PvD which doesnt make any much difference from pve champ trains =/

And bigger map with MORE chokepoints where smaller groups can have a chance to fight and yes outnumbered buff can give less supply required to build and maybe the ability to hold/build faster. Siege razor type npcs maybe an option to be hired but will disapear after you reach a certain amount of numbers or the ratio between the amount you have and the enemy has starts to become equal.

No jumping puzzles, the new way of upgrading maybe, gets people working on their own instead of following a blob. NPCs that scale, i relize Eotm have powerful npcs, npcs in wvw should scale to that lvl or even more. Say someones running a 80 man blob, while youre outnumbered in a map of 15, why not make an NPC as strong as SMs buffed lord with 10x the hp =o. Npcs that actually can help ALOT instead of getting steamrolled the moment a zerg decides to tickle it.

Lich King.1524:

Stand The Wall.6987:

The pug zerg is a mentality.
Large guild groups will still band together.

It hasnt been tried because people know it wont work.

Please read the topic. Removig AOE damage cap, will affect the ZERG meta.
ZERG must spread then, otherwise stupid zerg will die after 1-2 meteor showers.
Battles will be totally different. No more stacking trains.
ZERG wil still have the huge advantage in Damage, but smaller goup will have some chanses at least.

Eles are already having problems with retaliation and meteor storm at this moment. Try dropping it at a retal zerg when aoe cap is removed. The damage will probably be enough to get you downed and dead in one meteor storm.

Yeah then meet a retaliation zerg of 50, and deal 10k damage to yourself just by tickling them.

O lol that retal vid is funny, i love retal, keep it that way

Well playing for fights doesnt mean youre willing to lose everything, T3 towers are prizes, and we defend them. But if i see a t0 tower getting taken, i really couldnt care less about it unless im close by, rushing to the closes orange swords, looking for enemies, fighting in front of enemy keep, or leaving SM open as farm bait =D Playing on the defensive also gets fights but im not going to look up on the tick timer and time my ticks on buffs

Problem is with many servers. We sleep, in prime time yes we can dominate when our guilds and zergs fill up all maps, but before that, barely anyone wants to do the boring map hop and karma train, its mostly just looking for a map with the most orange crosses and fight/farm lootbags. In saying that, as a silver league server fighting gold league, we lose everything and occasionally even tick 0 in the early morning cause we sleep. Iv stayed up alot to check on wvw and thats how it goes =/

Map cap is about 80 ~ 90 btw, and defense is easier than offense… 30 people can defend a blob of 80 from a t3 tower/keep if sieged to the teeth. And then only call for help when they do counter all the siege. But one thing you must think is, are there people willing to camp towers/keep and waiting for a defensive, if yes then are there enough people willing to do so, cause a blob of 80 hits a tower you only have less than 2 minutes to react and defend it, assuming you can even enter the tower

Ranger, thief, necro, engineer. Any class can command as long as you can stay alive and direct your zerg to drop damage where you want it which is most of the time on top of you. Guardians are the best commanders not cause they are less skilled, its cause they can give boons/healing to their team which is a big advantage in the front line, being able to support your own party of 5 alone makes a difference. Tell me what a ranger can do that a guardian cant.

Not only that guardian/warrior are going to be more tanky since they have very strong passive/traited healing/heavy armor, and thats highly required in running melee trains especially, if youre going to be constantly dodging all over the map and running around with a thief or ranger, you will confuse your own people =/

And with the cap, you have to actually strategize where to drop damage, and trickle down enemy numbers etc. With cap its going to be insta wipes everywhere. Smaller groups have their role. If youre running 10 ~ 15 people do not expect to kill 60 ~ 70. Its not going to happen on open field unless they are completely mindless. But remember as enemy blobs get bigger, their movement get clumsier, its harder to follow and to direct. Use that advantage to take out parts of the zerg and using your environment such as choke points. Thats why you see guild groups of 25 ~ 30 wiping zone blobs.

Wont fix blobbing =/, people will still blob while being more spread out, or pop retal 200 retal damage x 50 players = insta kill. All i have to do is make a blob of 40 retal bunker guardians. And without a cap, if 2 blobs clash in a choke point, theres no more possibility to push forward, youre gonna be stuck there or forced to go around. Which will make places like SM impossible to go through

Have a necro/guardian/warrior commander, i think it depends on your playstyle, if youre a highly offensive/melee train type commander, guardian is better since you have control on your boons(especially stability) and you can time boons right for your team and you need to be able to hold your ground without dieing since youre the target of where the team should drop their damage. One thing about being a commander, the single most important thing you MUST have is stability, and access to alot more than just 3 seconds of it, unless you have a highly reliable guardian party

If people still have to pay gold for tags, it wont change =/ how about badges? needing badges or kills to upgrade your current commander tag, so commander tag can be a whole new rank even

if you want to make a successfull hammer train, youre gonna need at least 15 ~ 20 melee depending on the size of your zerg and the fights you want to get. And after that its determining the ratio between guardians and warriors. More warriors = more direct damage/cc. More guardians = more retal/bunker etc. Tactics basically the more melee’s you have the more offensive the harder you can hit, tanking/dps with books/guardian synergy. Tactics vary depending on situation and enemy zerg type as well so its not easy to explain =/

Played wvw since the first month of gw2, and the term “we play for fights not ppt” is not an excuse. Many groups whether it guild or commander play for fights and fights only. I myself most of the time couldnt care less about ppt or getting towers or keeping ticks etc as long as there is fights cause i know in the end of the day no matter how kittene you try, the winner is decided by one, who has the bigger and better early morning crew, and 2 more numbers throughout the day. If you like karma trains then good for you =)

Legendary itself is a hard to get and the wvw part of it is not even half of what you need to do, if youre going to dedicated yourself to craft one just to look good, man up and stop complaining. Do what you have to do get it done and get over it. 30 ranks into wvw? really? I get 15 ranks a day just by zerging.

Took both red and green keep, gotta say green keep is annoying when they have the bugged siegerazor up, but blue keep is indeed hard without some coordination, i usually run 30 ~ 40 melee train with my server there so its not too hard killing the lord while wiping enemy blobs as they currently lack soo little coordination and organization, yet to meet a guild group tho

Im ending my Super duper necro mesmer event. It was fun and awesome watching a 200 man zerg running =D. Will definitly be doing this again next time. We started with about 50 necros and 30 mesmers of a zerg of 80 people. Was looking for fights hoping to eat other blobs for breaky. Nice fights at Longview at the end of it unfortunately you werent there to see our full starting amount. Thanks Deso for the fights and thanks for all those that came

Myrmidone.4362:

Jezynka.2651:

Myrmidone.4362:

iTB.1428:

I like the RiverOfWalkingLootBags, one has to farm the gold for asc armor somewhere right? Who cares about PPT anyway …

Congrats farming the Pugzerg………………..guess what, we are doing exactly the same with our Guildraid against yours.
Only difference is that we dont need to brag here, about that “achievement”;-)

Greets Myrmi

NR looking for GvG (Wednesday or Thursday; 20.00-22.00 CET). Do you want to try even match (15vs15, 20vs20) vs our guild?

As i said above farmin the PugZerg ist not an achievement to brag here in the Forums, he also called the RS-Players somehow disrespectful so does this represent you as a Guild?
I have faced you Guild sometimes openfield and you are decent Guild but this Member of yours should think before he posts such nonsense.
About the GvG, we do no longer to my great disappointment, but from Tuesday on we run our Guildraids just give me an ingame pm and we could join same borderland for some fights.

Greets Myrmi

Not sure about Guild farming pug zergs, but our pug zergs farming your pug zergs on equal numbers is pretty hilarious =p after all the “pugs” reflect the number of experienced fighters in the server.

Thanks you AM and Gandara for the fun in EB tonight, nice try on trying to push us both at mendons and keep =) We cant fight your guilds without being full zergs but we still defend well as 2 groups.

Victory.2879:

Great double team effort on our keep in EB right now- AM blocking off the spawn while AG is attacking the keep. 40++ AM, full AG blob. neither side attacking anything else anywhere on the whole EB. Don’t bother trying to deny it, lots of screenies taken.

Clear sign that they have agreed to gang up on us- so sad that you have to resort to this rather than try and beat us on your own?

You just lost what little respect I had for AG ankitten ow we know exactly what your servers are made of.

Enjoy your alliance, let’s hope Gandara guilds rise to the challenge and pop some points during prime time to offset this onslaught by both servers.

Double team? Thats not double team, thats taking advantages, you guys do the same, AM does the same, when we have wooden tier towers, you only bash on us, so does AM, when AM is ticking too high, both of us bash on AM, maybe abit kitteny cause AG stays away from GD towers alot? and today we actually attack. =/

Nev.5316:

InderTat.6379:

Nev.5316:

Self Ignition.1640:

AG bl today was a total disaster. No cooperation at all, no scouts. No guilds running solo so there were only 2 blobs, one each per side of the map.
Anyway, Gl HF

don’t cap stuff when we are asleep, please

why would they stop playing the game as intended because your server can’t provide the numbers? AG is the only server which whines constantly about being bad and not being able to compete with other servers.

I guess there’s someone mad about Aurora Glade obviously being the Server with the best prime time in this match up and maybe aswell in this whole Silver League.

In my opinion Anet should try to balance WvWvW a bit, even if they told WvWvW wont be a balanced game mode.
They for example could let the prime time ticks count more than the ticks during the night or morning.
That aswell would prevent domination through night capping guilds from other regions.

But hey… It’s Anet. They wont ever balance anything tbh.

“Mad”? lol . I’m pointing out the fact there is always people from your server whining and crying about the exact same thing. If you don’t like the way wvw is run make a good suggestion in the suggestions section and I’m sure a dev would look into it. As long as the idea is good, your idea of making prime time tick more is a stupid idea what makes the effort of the people during prime time better than the people who do it in the morning/afternoon? Your pretty much making a suggestion based on what will reward you more for the time you can make wvw. Not everyone goes to work in the morning.

Get out of our forums, and we arent complaining about anything, this isnt your matchup, and we are bad? Dude during prime time your pug zerg is a joke, 20 or 60, it doesnt matter, Abbadons put up 5x the fight you put up only until you have to send a guild to EB =/

Thanks Gandara and AM for the fun in EB tonight =) It was fun fighting you guys

Thanks GD and AM for the fun in AG BL =) was putting more pressure on AM as we all know what youre capable of =) especially at night

Nev.5316:

Slomo.1029:

Rapti Bloodspill.5302:

Was fun match up, but the amount of kitten in this thread by some of the Forum Warriors is just huge.
@Forum Warriors who whine that peak time and Deso = sucking all the time… Please describe peak time.

No its was a boring matchup. Yes, this constant whining on the forum is still pretty childish.

Once for all times, maybe you should explain it on Desolation forums or bring it to your TS so you dont have to ask on every page again. Prime time on EU servers is when most people come back from work/school/university, go to the grocery store, have a nice dinner and go play some GW2. It starts around now (~19 GMT) and ends when people go to bed. Its not 4-7 am in the mornings when people stand up to play their “shift” before they do all those things.
Dont come with the “but people work at nights and we have americans” argument. 1st group is really small and the 2nd group should go play on their own servers. Maybe then they wouldnt have this giant population drop after t1…..

I dont care if you play your shifts at 4-7 am, I dont care if you brag with 600+ ppt screenshots from 5am in the morning. However I do care about action in prime time. And this is where you fail to deliver. Thats why people are so mad.

Yet they are ignorant to the facts and have no reason to be mad. This is world v world ( 24 hour battlefield). Nobody cares about ppt, we are one of the biggest pve servers and we have a lot of pugs who are not willing to listen during those times and come wvw solely to do achievements and not help out at all ( Mostly during PPT where most people finish work/school etc to come and play), but meh that doesn’t even matter point is even without having organized guilds being able to get in during ppt we are still winning as a whole. Every matchup prior to this the oppositions had equal numbers during morning/night, and i can guarantee you that there is not as many people during the night/morning as you guys claim there to be and we had a lot of fun playing those servers since they were a challenge at all times. Regarding coverage, yes we have more coverage than your server but so do those other servers in the silver league, it’s not our fault that you have a population of a bronze league server. Your server is one of the only servers along with uw who cannot provide the numbers which is not our fault. If you don’t like the design of wvw being a 24 hour battleground quit or make a suggestion to anet to change it ( This is not aimed at the user quoted but to everyone who is mad). But the whining here is pointless since we are doing nothing wrong as a server but yeah for all those organized guilds wanting to fight a organized deso guild, PT will be doing a guild rush tomorrow. For time/borderlands info whisper Ins or message him via forum.

PS: World V World is not always about having good organization “at all times”, you need numbers as well and you cannot be better than a server if you don’t have the numbers to compete against them.

You dont get it, we dont care about PPT, nor do we care about your night crew, we arent complaining about how you are winning due to coverage =) we are talking about challenge during prime time, other than that, when you having people saying apparently you are the “superior” server, we love to see your “superiority” when we are playing which is during prime time hours, which isnt showing really. Im mostly commanding EB but during prime time when we have our “pugs” up we dont find much of a challenge other than “oo SM is tier 3 lets cap it”. And you guys giving an excuse of “pvers” and “pugs” doesnt really work since we also work with those type of players as well.

And it was like that everyday since friday on prime time =o

Yes desolation has won the match up fair and square =) Night capping isnt an excuse, tho i would miss Desolation and their lootbag holding train in EB every prime time hours, its always nice to see Desolation come back over and over and over again no matter how many times they have been runned down. Your dedication astounds me =) btw we have nothing to be proud of, after all in EB we are all just pugs and pvers as well.

Yeah saw a few PT in eb 30 minutes ago

Very fun fights with INVI in EB tonight =) we knew things got serious when you guys come around the corner.

Nev.5316:

florence.1674:

“The only hours that should matter are the hours I play!”

I think this is what I distilled this thread down to.

Pretty much sums up this thread, AG is a joke anyways, and the only reason they are doing good in prime time is because we can’t get in our wvw guilds since the borderlands are always full. If it wasn’t for that we would be dominating in prime as well. If all the previous silver league servers we played managed to get similar coverage against us during morning/night then i don’t see the issue.

Aaaand another excuse, we are a joke for fighting back, the “kittenty” silver league players fighting with the so called “Superior” server.

Dyno.9467:

Knackers.8562:

Nev.5316:

Funny how my posts are getting moderated for insulting apparently, but it’s fun to watch ag cry lol. It’s not our fault you guys don’t have coverage at night and that’s not the reason we are winning anyways, we are just superior. Most of the time in our borderlands we have unorganized people running around since it’s hard to get a whole guild in with the que , but we are still winning without organization most of the time so … what does that say about ag? Regarding the people crying about blobbing up it’s nothing wrong with that, nearly every server we have been up against do the same thing even ag lol, so it’s a bit hypocritical. And why is it that they can insult us and not get moderated while there is a different rule for us?

PS: About us being the only server who has good coverage the following servers below had decent and pretty much the same amount of coverage as us and they didn’t complain.
Gandara
Abaddon’s Mouth

Even Fort Ranik , and they did much better than you guys against us.

Most of the time? the only time Deso is winning is during offpeak hours, when we come online we steamroll your zerg, and every night for the past week does show that we are capable of pinning you down at equal numbers. Yes you may be superior but only because of your night capping capabilities, no more

Bragging about steamrolling pugs and pve players? Your good….Its a poor league with poor servers so stop the self praise lol

Stop using “Pve” and “pugs” as an excuse to everything, we complain about offpeak, and you complain about people “clogging” up the queue, we do have queues on all BLs during prime time too, and those steamrolling im talking about is in EB, which is also againts our pugs/pvers

iorlas.6721:

we are superior at PvD, blobbing, coverage, bragging, nagging, moaning and crying anything else you want to add to our superiority list?

Tanking.

+1

Kurppa.9473:

Knackers.8562:

Kurppa.9473:

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

And its nice to cap T3 SM =p

Awesome how superior you are! While we have almost 1hour que, no commander and ppl running around, just waiting to get killed. Isn’t that almost like farming in orr or something? Most definitely something to brag about!

Dont see how im bragging =/ apparently its fun sitting on a cannon at SM, so i guess its also fun losing a fully upgraded SM ^^

Kurppa.9473:

Im happy reading forums while farming some ag with a cannon at sm.
Im just missing popcorn…

And its nice to cap T3 SM =p

gjop.8612:

Knackers.8562:

Nev.5316:

Funny how my posts are getting moderated for insulting apparently, but it’s fun to watch ag cry lol. It’s not our fault you guys don’t have coverage at night and that’s not the reason we are winning anyways, we are just superior. Most of the time in our borderlands we have unorganized people running around since it’s hard to get a whole guild in with the que , but we are still winning without organization most of the time so … what does that say about ag? Regarding the people crying about blobbing up it’s nothing wrong with that, nearly every server we have been up against do the same thing even ag lol, so it’s a bit hypocritical. And why is it that they can insult us and not get moderated while there is a different rule for us?

PS: About us being the only server who has good coverage the following servers below had decent and pretty much the same amount of coverage as us and they didn’t complain.
Gandara
Abaddon’s Mouth

Even Fort Ranik , and they did much better than you guys against us.

Most of the time? the only time Deso is winning is during offpeak hours, when we come online we steamroll your zerg, and every night for the past week does show that we are capable of pinning you down at equal numbers. Yes you may be superior but only because of your night capping capabilities, no more

Deso has ticked higher then every server we’ve been matched against during prime time at times, it’s nothing new or is it something new to you?

Again beating us during prime time isn’t really anything to brag about, unless a known commander is running it’s pretty much a cluster****.

And yes cause ticking 600 off peak is something to brag about while losing your whole BL and all other maps during prime time isnt =) and its not bragging, youre stating that youre superior in every other way, im just saying youre only superior due to offpeak coverage.