Guild Wars 2

Take a break from the game. Won’t kill ya if you miss a few days.

Imo balanced builds > all others. It just doesn’t fit anywhere in conquest.

Size does matter. If it takes me half a second to distinguish what the f you are doing, that is an advantage. Of course, we could all roll asurans, but I’d rather not play a rat.

No way. I didn’t know you can cast instant spells during a stomp animation. What have I been doing all this time?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Quick-update/page/3#post354791

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Quick-update/page/3#post354791

JonathanSharp.7094:

Keeping an eye on something means we’re watching it, seeing how it plays out, and making sure we don’t make knee jerk reactions (nerfs or buffs).

Having said that, Dagger/dagger Ele needs help. Some defensive Ele specs are too good. Some of their sustained damage is too low, while some spike builds are pretty rough. Keeping an eye on it means we’re not going to nerf/buff it without thinking very carefully about it – that’s what my first update was about.

We’re also keeping an eye on Thieves, both in regards to damage output and sustained defense through stealth.

We’re also looking at the balance for all the downed skills for all classes. Some are riding the high end of the power curve, while others feel weaker in comparison.

Anddddddddddd we’re also looking at buffs/nerfs to all classes as apropos – I’m just not listing every single one. For many classes this means that we want them to have different builds that are equally viable, and making sure that no single build outshines all others in efficacy. Also, this means that JUST BECAUSE I DIDN’T SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT YOUR CLASS in a post, that DOES NOT MEAN WE’RE NOT LOOKING AT IT.

Communication in-and-of-itself is a complicated thing, and the inherent complication of human communication is further exacerbated when it’s done via a web-based medium. We’re trying to do our best to communicate with you, so please understand that just because I say “keeping an eye on something”, that doesn’t mean we are nerfing X from orbit with a Nerf nuke – as it’s the only way to be sure. It simply means we’re keeping an eye on it.

/salute

Wow posted this as I entered the thread, thanks for the clarification. I play D/D ele, some good news

Yea just a graphics glitch, still cool nonetheless. Never had as much fun as an ele until I started doing this in the mists.

zerospin.8604:

It’s funny because at the beginning, in the beta, it looked like GW2 had the longest duel times, with fights lasting for minutes. Now I haven’t been playing sPvP much since, so is it really that bad, is it really seconds? :S

5 seconds. Basilisk Venom 3 seconds. Cloak and dagger + Steal = 1 second. Backstab = 1 second. Throw in assassins signet somewhere since it’s instant.

1 vs 1, thief is no prob. But when you’re in the middle of combat with someone else, and your hp suddenly drops 15k in 1 second, isn’t that a bit over the top? Keep in mind thieves can stealth and shadowstep from far away to prevent you even noticing them. This is specifically the backstab build. 95% guaranteed kill every 45 secs.

Lonja.1034:

KogarasuMaru.7036:

It is very balanced. 3rd attack knocks you down, knockdown on activate, constant burning, etc. You can’t fight it, yet you can target it. It even has swiftness. After all, guardian skills are crap and they can’t knock you down themselves. Or chase after you without blinks. Or pull you to them.

Third attack knocks BACK not DOWN. in order for spirit weapons to cause burning they need to be traited for it. Guardian fully specced in spirit weapons has little to no defense(main one being 3 hit shield from focus) and is easily bursted down. I used to play the spec but got bursted down way too easy and so i left if for shouts/Great hammer build which can actually survive being stunned for 2 seconds.

Meh it’s 3 am. Oh yes, I forgot to mention how the shouts and gs/h build completely negates all my damage.

Join the club. I play this game for pvp, and that part of the game is seriously lacking imo.

It is very balanced. 3rd attack knocks you down, knockdown on activate, constant burning, etc. You can’t fight it, yet you can target it. It even has swiftness. After all, guardian skills are crap and they can’t knock you down themselves. Or chase after you without blinks. Or pull you to them.

If only this amulet was made, it would fit perfectly in my build.

798 power
569 vitality
284 toughness
284 precision

It’s a steady weapon.

Eles laugh at immo. Then again when death comes smiling, all we can do is smile back.

Remove this one. Duplicated.

WTF SOMEHOW IT DUPLICATED LOL

Cast churning earth, then use stow weapon right away to see this awesomeness.

Faith in ele restored.

Start casting the animation, then use stow weapon right away to see this awesomeness.

OP dps ele, meet my backstab thief.

Ryld.1340:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Oh ya, wanted to add: yes, we’re watching Mesmers, bunker Guardians and tank heal Ele’s. Forgot to add that.

Please don’t destroy my healing as Ele.

It’s all I have and all I’ve ever wanted to do.

I feel your pain. I used to have a D/D ele back in BWE 1 that did damage.

mcavellero.8153:

Mammoth.1975:

All of those are aoe effects. They’ll interrupt a stealth stomp.

So essentially what Im gathering is that if I don’t play an engineer or guardian-if I play my elementalist, there is no way to counter a stealth stomp (without another team member) therefore deeming her downed state abilities null and void(useless) as there’s a 6-7 active recast timer for mist form.

Thanks in advance.

If you play elementalist, expect to be stomped stealthed or not.

Played since BWE 1. Took a break to learn other professions, to see which one I like better. Ele is still my favourite.

Aba.6419:

@Felis Libyca.3790 – quote “3k crit auto-attack and my 5-6k crit meteors”.

Please – I want screenshots. Im staff ele too with prec/power/crit items and want to see that. If you cant provide some evidence I assume you are full of kitten.
And please show me (screens) your big damage at PvP. I want to know which our spell does such dmg.

Op was talking about pve.

Warning, need high apm.

S/D. I don’t care what you have for traits, as long as you have elemental surge in arcane. Utilities = Frost Bow, Arcane Blast, Mist Form.

Test with dummies first, you won’t be able to land this without practice.

Combo:
You need to be in air, as well with fire and earth off cd. Air, #2, #3, #4, #5. As soon as you updraft, cast frost bow. You will have the bow in your hands. Use #5 (Deep Freeze), switch to earth and cast arcane blast when they are getting up. Remember, it takes 3 seconds to channel deep freeze, so you need to switch to earth and cast arcane blast during this time. This will result in an immobilize. Deep Freeze hits, drop the bow (by switching weapons) and switch to fire at the same time. #2, #4, #3, #5. Profit.

This is not practical. Just something I discovered one day.

Close enough? Those are my stacks of might and that is a well rounded engineer.

Ele, Engi and Necro.

Taihaku.8412:

You guys realize there are no levels in pvp right? Just ranks….I dont even think there is a level 80 rank.

There is, there are vendors up to 80 so far.

2.1k power, and hitting 1.5k burning speeds normally is fine? I hit that much on my auto att with axe warrior with same power.

Paranoid.9542:

Why not put a rather large initiative cost on backstab, let thief have that burst but make them sacrifice more for doing it. Want a 13k 1 hit? Now you cant use anything else for a little while.

Say 4 init (maybe even 5)? Meaning a CnD/backstab combo blows 10 of 12 init.

Thief can now no longer SB tele to safety instantly after failing.

Thief now likely cant CnD again after initial BS failure.

Thief Can at Max use 1 Heartseeker afterwards (after lettering init recharge once giving time for dodge/whatever).

Want to go further? Have it use half the endurance bar. Less than half left when using? Delay endurance regernation for a few seconds.

Pistwhip? Change haste ability to only give a 33% or 50% or whatever increase in attack speed. Done.

Simple. Find another way to spam backstab. Grab the 10 points in the stealth tree for the 2 initiative on stealth, grab shadow refugee, voila full initiative after 2-3 sec.

Lol that warrior was too busy trying to turn around half the time. I like D/D myself, fun is a big factor. That mist form stomp would have gone off, if you started the stomp first. I would also suggest doing this in spvp.

Population in the mists have been steadily declining. On Blackgate, there are maybe 30 people standing around. Half of them are afk. Sometimes there are a few people looking for groups, otherwise map chat is dead silent. Blackgate is supposed to be one of the pvp servers too.

People run around with different builds. The dummies only start with the base armor.

Best thread I’ve seen in a month. Congratulations on proving ele is not worthless by hitting on ai standing in front of you.

“We’ve almost got all that stuff ironed out, soon as we do we’ll follow up with blog posts about our plan for PvP/E-sports in the coming months.”

I’m no expert, but shouldn’t a blog come first especially if it includes the future plans? I appreciate that tournaments are being worked on, but all this just to get a blog post out? Something doesn’t feel right.

What did you expect?

I already left once after BWE 2. Not leaving again. There simply isn’t another class that can provide the same sort of entertainment an ele does. Just gotta stick by my new (old) favourite profession.

Krozzy.4608:

@Angry Flying Squirrel,
hmmm.. how do I tell?

…By going into different servers. For example, you could take statistics only for forest, and then leave the server and join another ongoing forest match. This way you won’t have the same people counted.

Dalingrin.1035:

Xhaiden is right. This is one of the worst launches and the game has less features than any previous MMO at launch….oh wait, that’s not true at all.

This is easily one of the most feature rich MMO at launch…ever. I can’t believe folks don’t have just a little bit of patience to let ArenaNet prioritize fixes post launch.

They’ve said many times prior to launch that additional eSport features would come post launch. Either people didn’t get the memo or they have unrealistic expectations that a bunch of new features would be added a week or two after release of one of the biggest games in history.

One of the biggest games in history, can’t get a proper translator.

Go equip berserkers, 30/30/0/0/10 ogre runes, assassins signet + another signet, basilisk venom and then come back.

Give the ele a nice new elite.

Asteroid.

Change the course of an asteroid from space, causing it to crash down and send enemies into oblivion.

Cast Duration: 3 seconds while an asteroid is dropping down.
Damage: 9000
Causes burning, 5x bleeding, weakness, cripple for 5 seconds.
Radius: 1200
Ground Targeted.

If interrupted, only deal damage equal to time casting. If max dmg = 9000, a 2 sec cast will cause 6000 dmg. Conditions still apply.

Wasselin.1235:

KogarasuMaru.7036:

Wasselin.1235:

Is it intended that Gylph of Elementals cooldown to triggers twice? In PvE the cooldown starts counting down right when you summon the elemental, and then starts over again when the elemental dies.

The second cooldown shows how long the elemental lasts.

It doesn’t. I have the trait that reduced the cooldown. The first cooldown starts counting down from 96 seconds. at around 36 seconds the elemental dies, and the cooldown starts counting down again from 96 seconds. If it was displaying the amount of time the elemental lasts the first cooldown should start from 60 seconds.

Now it could be that they mean for the first cooldown to be the duration and it’s a display bug OR prehaps they actually changed the cooldown to start when you summon the elemental (listening to player feedback) and forgot to take the part out where the cooldown stats when the elemental dies.

I just tested it in the mists, the second timer shows how long the elemental lives. Every time I use it, 60 seconds start counting down. The glyph resets and starts the cd of 96/120 after elemental dies.

It does get really old fast. There are times when I’m in a middle of a 1 vs 1 and the match decides to switch me over. I end up leaving in those games cause I get fed up with that crap.

I get random lag spikes from time to time, it isn’t my connection because I am still talking to my guild on mumble. If I lag, I simply log off and wait a few hours before trying again.

Wasselin.1235:

Is it intended that Gylph of Elementals cooldown to triggers twice? In PvE the cooldown starts counting down right when you summon the elemental, and then starts over again when the elemental dies.

The second cooldown shows how long the elemental lasts.

Grounded doesn’t work with updraft. I’ve personally tested with steady weapons.

Lysico.4906:

Ah so have to use dagger 5, staff 4 .. not seeing any earth with speed.

No weapon swapping, so man that sounds like a pain in the #$%^ to keep up.

Staff #5 creates a combo field, in which blast finishers can give swiftness. Earth #2 makes a blast finisher, but takes time to activate. Therefore, earth #2 and then staff #5.
Switching weapons is a pain, but currently that is the best way to gain swiftness without putting your abilities on cd.

Earth #2 then Air #5. Air #4.

Zunhar.4079:

tluv.5821:

@Devolution

That’s not my issues. MY issue is that they are able to 2v1 people and do a total over 40k + in 4 seconds. That is a DPS of 10k. That is absurd. Yeah, some other characters do high damage. But it is usually burst damage. That is what the thief is supposed to specialize in. Burts high damage. Not CONSTANT high damage.

Please tell me how Thieves are able to do 40k damage in 4 seconds. Please.

With 13 stacks of might, steal + cloak and dagger + backstab = 20k. Steal from a warrior, and spin in a group = 40k.