Guild Wars 2

Title, and is it worth actually using?

Well of Corruption and Power combined would be amazing and overpowered. No way they’d pass that, though i do agree that we could use more combo finishers. Instead of adding another well that fears, I think they should just add another second or half of a second to our current fears. Then people might actually consider picking up the 50% fear duration trait and complain less about our fears being too short. Adding absorb to the Wall would be nice, but i still can’t imagine a lot of people using it. There are so many other important options when picking utilities.

I was actually watching Team PZ’s stream last night and they were talking about playing with him and the builds he used, like play full signet warrior and play silly builds as necro. Really though who the hell cares? He can play however he likes, the important thing is that he plays/talks to high end teams about balancing issues which is the best move any “PvP” game can make imo. Team PZ is extremely good, they’re just not as well known.

After the immobilize duration wears off I’m still unable to move whatsoever. The only way I’ve been able to get out of it is to use a movement skill of some sort. Anyone else having the same issue?

With full Undead having the 5% of toughness as extra condition damage i only go up about 70 which is probably around 3-4 more per tick. I’m still on the wall. I do like some of the other armor set bonuses but I don’t think the condition damage loss is really that bad. I’ll toy with it though.

Thanks for the insight! I still think corrupt boon is strong, though i agree that it blows that it can be blocked, miss, etc. I’ll give Well of Corruption a shot. I’ll probably go back to the Carrion Amulet then since health does sound better, the 5 trait bleed is absolute kitten, and I don’t use earth sigils. And you don’t think the 30% bleed duration from 3/3 runes is worth it? If that’s the case do you just use Undead?

Is it just a crappy bleed duration? I’ll have to test it sometime :P

I run a fairly standard conditions build:

0/30/10/10/20 with II, VII, XI in Curses II in Death Magic III in Blood Magic and III, X in Soul Reaping. Scepter/Dagger + Staff and for Utilites I use Consume Conditions, Corrupt Boon, Epidemic, Plague Signet, and Flesh Golem. Runes are 3 Krait 3 Afflicted with a Rabid or Carrion Amulet and Sigils are Agony on Scepter/Dagger and Energy on Staff.

The first issue I have with my build is deciding between Rabid or Carrion Amulet:
I feel like if i use Rabid, I’d be better off using 6/6 Undead runes instead just to make good use of the extra toughness, but I love having longer bleed duration from 3Krait/3Afflicted. Another plus to Rabid is the precision it brings for the 5 trait in curses adding an extra bleed on crit.

For Carrion Amulet, I do like the extra health but is it really worth trading around 6k health for 600 toughness? Also, how much do I actually benefit from the extra power i get from Carrion?

Another issue with my build is the utility skills. I would love to be able to use either Spectral Walk or Spectral Armor, but I feel like the utilities i have are too good to pass up. On the other hand it would help my survivability quite a lot having another stun break. If I were to ditch one of them i think it’d be Epidemic, even though it pains me because Epidemic brings so much to the table in group fights. Corrupt Boon is a no go for obvious reason. Plague Signet is also a possibility, but it’s still extremely strong VS other condition builds. What would you choose?

Anyways guys/girls, I would VERY much appreciate some feedback, I try and theorycraft and test numbers for a lot of things but I can’t quite decide. Thanks!

I can’t really critique your build a whole lot because everything is really personal preference and playstyle. I do feel like we are somewhat pigeon-holed into getting the same utilities as any Condition dmg build. I would love to be able to pick up Spectral Walk or Spectral Armor for a bit more survivability and a better stunbreak(Plague Signet as a stun break isn’t as reliable since you have a major condition removal talent tied into it, which means you wont always use it for actually breaking out of a stun every time)

I do have the same issues:
Not being able apply bleeds as fast as other classes(ON a side not though, I do think a major overlooked condition that necros bring is poison among others. But poison is huge!)

Speed is also an issue but that’s somewhat the way we choose to build ourselves. If you were to sacrifice damage for more utility skills and use a Warhorn over a Dagger, you would have a Swiftness/Cripple AND a Daze. Though, the dagger 4/5 skills are just too good to get rid of imo.

And of course, the “fear” class has lower duration fears than any other by default. It’s always frustrating to get feared by a thief due to how long it lasts ><. We do have the option to trait/rune/sigil for longer fears but there are MUCH better choices that are almost necessary to even bringing a Necro in the first place.

All in all I think some tweaks to the Necro are needed and will hopefully come in time. Right now I’m fairly happy with the changes they made today, but I wish there were either more changes or they would have these updates more often.

Can anyone tell me how long it takes to leave combat? If you hit someone it takes ages and then you end up running slow as kitten, unable to swap weapons for a swiftness if you don’t already have one ><

Alright since this topic already exists I may as well talk more about it. I was just recording a match and in this particular situation i was fighting an engi. Used Corrupt Boon and nothing happened without aegis up. When i looked at it afterwards i actually got dazed as i hit Corrupt Boon, but the thing is that it went on it’s full cooldown. I though daze only interrupted the ability for a short time??

Also since it’s possible to daze/aegis/blind Corrupt Boon, do you guys actually keep all of this in mind before you use it? I’ve only tried to make sure aegis wasn’t up tbh. But there are so many rng things going on that you can’t necessarily guarantee it to work every time.

I can tell you I lost a glory level 18 chest after I logged out because I didn’t want to accept/open it on the character I was playing at the time. Is this a known issue or is it supposed to happen? :O

As a necro with 1700 toughness, I agree with you. I actually saw an 8.2k steal yesterday and it about made me quit altogether. Though I can’t complain as much since necro has higher base health and better defensive skills(death shroud). Anyways stay true and don’t reroll otherwise all we’ll see is effing mesmers and thieves running around telling everyone else they’re bad -_-

I agree with you Ursan. Give everyone some sort of interrupt while in the downed state and balance out the #3s in downed state. Everyone should have considerably less damage in the downed state and take away the silly traits that increase damage while in the downed state. I also don’t think other traits/quickness should reduce the cast time of stomping. Everyone should be even in that department imo. I don’t mind the traits that promote reviving though, such as the “gain X toughness while reviving” traits or whatever.

I never really liked the downed state, though I’ve gotten used to it and it does give you some feel good moments when you get rallied back up because you attacked an enemy just in time before they got stomped.

Just my 2 cents :P

Oh so i just went full kitten then -_-

Sometimes it does absolutely nothing. Is this due to retaliation or maybe spells that block/reflect projectiles? It’s not a “projectile” though so idk. I would very much appreciate it if anyone could clear this up. It’s only my second day pvping as Necro and i’m enjoying it so far. Running Scepter/Dagger + Staff condition build. Even considering actually leveling it up :P

Hey i watched it and i enjoyed it. A few things you might want to consider is music choice and as Nande said try to time some things with your music. Otherwise don’t worry people are always going to say you’re crap on this forum and honestly one of the best ways to get better is to watch your own gameplay and improve on that. But I’d keep making videos if you enjoy it.

Ya sonic you could check out this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Jimmyx192?feature=CA4QwRs%3D

He posts a new video every couple days and it’s usually full tourney games or him commentating over a tourney game.

Hello again, here’s my death blossom build.

http://youtu.be/j9notQz3lBc

Tell me how it compares to yours and give some feedback.

Thanks

I feel the same using Windows Movie Maker >< But when you don’t have Sony Vegas what else are you supposed to do?

But as far as the video goes i liked it! For a montage style video people are really picky so don’t get discouraged. I think a lot of people like to see full fights or even full matches but it’s actually pretty hard to get a solid match that’s worth using. I definitely say keep recording and making videos, that’s the only way to get better really.

mmk “Eliteseraph”

Thank you metaphorm Will definitely work on that. I do like the idea of going over an entire match and speeding up through the boring parts. I’ll have to get more games recorded where I’m on a coordinated team in skype or something. Problem is I end up having to pug a lot ><

I’ll check out your vid.. i also might make a death blossom build video to show how i build it, which i think is pretty kitten. It’s just the general playstyle of building around death blossom is boring for me ><

Hmm fair enough. Out of curiosity don’t you find death blossom spam boring? I mean for me it was fun at first, but after a while i just couldn’t stand being able to spam one button and be that effective. It’s a joke. Unless you’re fighting condition removal build then it’s just frustrating.

@Vexus Great input bro. Why no?

Change the initiative cost to 3 from 5 but take the bleeding it stacks down to 2 from 3. Another possibility is to take the damage away from it aside from the bleeds.

I feel this would make it viable for backstabbers to still use once in a while to help evade, as well as slightly tone down the ridiculousness of condition build death blossom spammers. In all honesty you come across plenty of condition removal builds in higher tier play so death blossom isn’t as viable.

Leave your thoughts and feedback on this!

Generally the auto attack will turn off and I’ll use Assassin’s Signet to initiate the backstab once i’m behind my target, but sometimes ill randomly auto attack out of stealth when i was facing my target. Everyone should know how frustrating this is since all you have in backstab builds is your opener(to an extent).

I do understand that you can ctrl right mouse click your “1” to turn auto attack off and i’m curious how many of you backstabbers actually do this.

Alright so I’m making a D/D Backstab video next most likely. Still tweaking the utility skills a bit but i think i have my favorite trait build worked out. IF anyone can find a D/P trait build that i enjoy i’d greatly appreciate it!

Also Metaphorm, what type of content are you interested in watching?

I could try some Dagger/Pistol though I always get torn about how I want to build my traits. Anyone have a good Dagger/Pistol build?

http://youtu.be/rvRopF22G84

Check it out if you’re interested! I would greatly appreciate feedback as I plan to make more videos in the future. Also give me some builds you guys would be interested in seeing, though I’ll still be playing pistol whip for the most part.

Anyways thanks!