Guild Wars 2

manysongsgw.2931:

TL;DR [LPBW] consists of older/veteran players, Rank 9001, AP 15k+, 2 Legendaries each

Aka pve warriors

Sorel.4870:

Terrorsquad.2349:

I actually like the idea of having leagues. I suggested that once long time ago.

But I also liked the MMR Leaderboard.. Could we have both?

I wonder..

I would love a league system. However, I fear the player base is a little too small for that. Maybe after HoT?

Anet knows exactly how many people pvp, couldn’t they just scale the size of these leagues to the size of the player base? Just make each one a percentage of the player base. I think of Anet did divide up the player base in that fashion they probably would actually end up having more players pvping because the matches would be more fair and fun.

This argument is pointless. Spirigo.2897 just changes his argument every time we point out a flaw in what he says. Just let it die.

Spirigo.2897:

Kyle.9523:

Spirigo.2897:

Sorel.4870:

Spirigo.2897:

Kyle.9523:

russia.9057:

There’s a lot more nuance involved in PVP than running head first into mid over and over again.

I will bet money spirigo.2897 does this

Oh yeah, that illusive “nuance” that gets mentioned a lot but is never explained.

Let me guess, one guy goes to close.

Woo such strategies!

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4761630

Sorry but no. I love watching videos like these for some of the other games I play, such as Doto, LoL or CS but here it’s just 1 of 5 total members of GW2 pro scene (or was it 11?) showing us some skill spam. The first 3 minutes of this video show all that is wrong with PvP.

Abusing stealth – check.
Irrelevance of major skills, hence why skill spam is enough – check.
The outcome of the match decided by a passive element – check.
Match decided by the first minute – check.

Yep, PvP here is deep… In kitten.

Refuses to learn how to play the PvP game type – check.
Sucks at PvP as a result and complains on the forums – check.

I get that people have gotten bored of conquest, but its been the game type that PvP has been centered around since launch. If you are bad at it you only have yourself to blame.

Making random assumptions about the user he doesn’t agree with but can’t argue against because mad and fanboy – check.

I’m not making assumptions, I’m going based off of what you said in the posts above. You know, the one I quoted. Where instead of taking something and learning from the video you just point out all the “flaws” you find in pvp. This shows me that you don’t want to learn, you just want to complain. Like a child. Got anymore emotional arguments you would like to make?

Spirigo.2897:

Sorel.4870:

Spirigo.2897:

Kyle.9523:

russia.9057:

There’s a lot more nuance involved in PVP than running head first into mid over and over again.

I will bet money spirigo.2897 does this

Oh yeah, that illusive “nuance” that gets mentioned a lot but is never explained.

Let me guess, one guy goes to close.

Woo such strategies!

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4761630

Sorry but no. I love watching videos like these for some of the other games I play, such as Doto, LoL or CS but here it’s just 1 of 5 total members of GW2 pro scene (or was it 11?) showing us some skill spam. The first 3 minutes of this video show all that is wrong with PvP.

Abusing stealth – check.
Irrelevance of major skills, hence why skill spam is enough – check.
The outcome of the match decided by a passive element – check.
Match decided by the first minute – check.

Yep, PvP here is deep… In kitten.

Refuses to learn how to play the PvP game type – check.
Sucks at PvP as a result and complains on the forums – check.

I get that people have gotten bored of conquest, but its been the game type that PvP has been centered around since launch. If you are bad at it you only have yourself to blame.

russia.9057:

There’s a lot more nuance involved in PVP than running head first into mid over and over again.

I will bet money spirigo.2897 does this

Sins.4782:

The account with this issue is much older, and has around 10x the number of games as the one that doesn’t have this problem. Asked around guild a bit, and it seems that people who don’t PvP much don’t have this issue either. So my guess would be that it’s doing some sort of calculations involving match history lookups when you access the scoreboard, but I’m not really sure why it would be, or why that would cause a screen freeze unless it’s doing a ton of recursive calls and using up tons of CPU or something.

I also have one account that is much older and has a few thousand more games played than the other. As it so happens, it is the newer account with the problem right now. However, I have been playing a lot more on the newer account lately so it could have something to do with having a large amount of games played in a short span of time (perhaps starting after a leaderboard reset).

So I’m just going to bring up this up again because I have something to add to it. I think most everyone has an idea of what I’m talking about. When opening the scoreboard while in a match (the default hotkey for this is b) for some people this causes a drop in framerate. Well, that’s more of an understatement, it actually freezes your screen.

So, I have 2 separate accounts I use because why not. Earlier this week I started having this problem with the scoreboard again on one of my accounts. On Friday, I moved home for the summer and as such have been using a different isp. The issue persists. Today, I try logging into my other account and discover that there is no drop in framerate when opening the scoreboard in a match. By the way, this is on the same computer. I log back into the account I was having the problem on, and it is still there.

Tl;dr (read this part)
So, I think we can come to this conclusion: it is not an issue derived from a bad graphics card/driver and it is not derived from a bad internet connection. It does happen on an individual basis to separate accounts. I don’t think it is a server side issue.

I do not know how information is stored so from here I’d just be grasping at straws if I tried to guess how to resolve it. I suppose something to look at is how information is pulled for each separate account for each part of the scoreboard (reward track, slot on the scoreboard, score displayed). I don’t know. All I hope is for this post to help point someone from Anet who is working on it in the right direction.

Poliator.7021:

I was just throwing ideas to another idea with that thing, really off-topic, I’m sorry.

No need to apologize, I gladly welcome others’ ideas. I may just not always agree with them. The whole point of this board is to discuss ideas about pvp is it not? I’m happy you shared. If anything, I’m disappointed others did not as well. Then again, I’m sure this is not the first topic that has been made about this issue, and people may be tired of beating a dead horse

This thread irks me. I know necro is in a pretty crappy place right now, but I do not think passive life force regen makes sense / is the answer. The whole point of life force is to take it from other things. So you absorb it through deaths around you or by directly attacking objects/enemies and taking it from them. The only thing I could see making sense is sacrificing your own health to gain life force, if you wanted to do it “out of combat”.

I never have been under the impression that life force is hard to build anyway. If anything I just find the lack of kiting ability on necros to be abhorrent. Compared to other classes, the options are extremely limited. That is what needs to be fixed.

I don’t know how many players my opinion applies to, but leaderboards carry zero incentive for me. Even if they changed how you get points and fix it so it isn’t a total grindfest, the rewards still do not make me want to play ranked any more or any less. I really couldn’t give a kitten if I got a mini llama or a piece of armor.

What I want is match making set up in a way that makes all my matches fun. Challenging, fighting to the last minute matches. The fact that not all my matches are that way is a symptom of a huge issue.

The reason I brought up this thread is because I’m tired of whiny players that don’t want to work together. I can’t play with a premade team 100% of the time that I play guild wars. I don’t really put the effort in to make it happen, but regardless I don’t want to have to. As I said earlier, I want the solo arena to funnel all the players with that mentality into that arena. The ones that believe 5v5 actually means 1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1v1. And I want to stay far away from them.

I might have said I would be down for your idea, but I’m pretty on the fence about it right now. In fact I’m leaning away from it at the moment. Mostly, because I think it will not change anything and it’ll be a game mode that no one will want to do after a while (because long queues and likely hood of facing same teams over and over).

I’m not necessarily saying I have the 100% solution either, but I do know that the previous system worked better (was more enjoyable).

Poliator.7021:

I’d love to see, actually, the current Ranked Arena, with a Team Ranked Arena (giving sense to the Guild Leaderboards they are going to add), full 5 party premade queue, that would aliviate the “amount” of premades that so much bother some players.

Hmm.. so would this mean that 5 man premades would compete in a different leaderboard in this team ranked arena? That would be interesting.
Also, in that case, would that mean 5 mans would not be allowed in regular ranked arena? Because unless there is some great incentive to play in team ranked arena, I see no reason why they would actually queue up for that. I guarantee the queue times would be obnoxiously long. I’d be down for this idea too though

Apolyon.6937:

Kyle.9523:

while I soloq into team arena and play with people that come expecting to play as a team.

Agree with you on the solo and team arenas, but team arenas should be for teams.

Solo arena = mandatory no party
Team arena = mandatory party of 5

I don’t necessarily disagree with this sentiment. However, what about people that want to queue with their friend but don’t have 3 others online they can group up with. Essentially this would force them to wait and find 3 randoms in heart of the mists to join their party and then queue up. Which you just as well could get out of allowing people to queue solo into team arena.

Even if people did end up 5 soloq vs a premade, I would still be fine with that. I’ve won in that situation many times (and lost).

Also, thanks Poliator.7021 for saying what I was about to post about why unranked exists.

Bubi.5237:

Not enough players to support more queue-systems.

Do you have proof or are you just saying that? I encounter new players all the time..

If not, here’s what you gotta do Anet.

1) Go ahead and keep hot join and unranked arena since you love them so much.
2) Get rid of ranked arena and split it into ranked solo arena and ranked team arena. You know, that one thing we used to have.

That way all the baddies can go flame each other in solo arena, while I soloq into team arena and play with people that come expecting to play as a team. You can even keep the same leaderboard and attribute the points the same. I don’t care. I just want to have fun matches.

I’m guessing the pvp window actually is not limited to 3 buttons, but if it is, just get rid of the hot join (custom arenas) button. Then refer to step 2 above.

RikkuDragonsFiance.6714:

its still happening tzzzz

Good

In all seriousness, I also have had this issue in the past, and it also started after a big patch earlier this year. I’m 100% convinced it is client side, especially since I don’t experience it anymore. If I was to say what causes it I would just be pulling kitten out of my kitten , so I won’t try. I feel your pain bros

I think Jay Cutler is in charge of matchmaking development

You know what they say darres, you are the common denominator to those losses

Not here to debate whether the level requirement is a good idea or not. If you do not want to wait until you are level 22 (which is only once per account), just go to lion’s arch and walk to the heart of the mists asura gate.

you play ranked pvp for 10 hours in one day, and begin to question your life decisions

Patchi.9061:

Can we just have an in-game currency for PvP

Oh you mean that one thing we used to have but Anet got rid of

I think burns realistically should have stacks. I really do not get why poison and burns don’t have stacks similar to bleeds. As you inflict those conditions again and again the effect should be amplified, not just elongated. Like if you cut a person repeatedly, they won’t just bleed longer they will bleed more intensely since they will have more open wounds (more stacks of bleed). The same applies to burns. The more you burn a person, the bigger the portion of their body that is on fire. The stacks would cap at the point where their whole body is on fire. Poison would work the same way, the more you poison someone, the more deadly the amount of poison in them should be.

I think the idea of cleansing only reducing the timer is awful. There is no real reason to treat burns differently than other conditions in relation to cleanses.

The concept of burns spreading is pretty cool. It would get pretty crazy if the burns could spread to enemies and friendlies.

So, with the guild wars 2 sale today, I decided to buy a new key and make a new account. I’ve played this game for a little while so I wanted to experience the game from a new player’s perspective.

I got to PvP as soon as I could, scrounged up enough gold to buy the weapons I wanted to play with and set off to playing ranked matches. Ranked matches mind you, not hot join.

The first match I got put in went about as you could expect. A bunch of guys that run to the middle of the point and use all their skills until they die, and occasionally move out of aoe. I felt kind of bad for them because we beat them pretty bad, but that is neither here nor there.

Here is what I just do not get. After playing 3 matches and winning 3, my fourth I noticed a steep change in the players I was being matched with. One I recognized as being in the top 25 on the leaderboard. While I know that is not necessarily reflective of skill, it still means they are much more experienced than a player than has only played 3 pvp matches.. total.

Now, I know there are already a lot of posts on how people feel their matchups are bad, or the MMR system is broken and whatnot. However, this really opened my eyes up to what I was experiencing on my main account as a high MMR player (whatever that is supposed to mean). There seriously could be players who have been playing this game for less than a day getting matched with players who are on top of the leaderboard and have played since launch.

Anet is going to do whatever Anet wants to do in order to sort this out, but just keep this in mind while you get in ranked matches and get frustrated with the teammates you are put with. They might just have no idea what they are doing because they just started.