Guild Wars 2

lol, i love the people who claim i made up this story. Anyone who has played a class with perplexity im sure have similar stories.

You act like perplexity exists in a vacuum and confusion is the only condi that is put on people. Obviously noone not terrible is going to die from just confusion, but its the fact that on something like my condi warrior i can put up to 12 stacks of confusion in a single hit on someone, in addition to all the other condi’s i can put on, access to so much of a condition shouldnt be possible just from a rune set, and just makes it not fun for both people involved. The more condi’s a condi spec has access to the better it is, and giving every class access to lots of confusion was just wrong.

I felt like playing an easy mode cheese build the other day, so i logged on my warrior and put his perplexity condi suit on, i found a mesmer and my first hit interrupted him and put 9 stacks of confusion on him, between my traits, food and runes i believe i was at +90% confusion duration so it wasnt going anywhere on its own. For the rest of the very short fight i was free to just do whatever i wanted because if he tried to fight back or heal or do anything he would just kill himself and since i believe confusion is one of the last condi’s cleansed he was never getting rid of it that way. It felt like i was fighting a pve mob, It was an incredibly boring fight for me and im sure he wasnt too trilled about it either.

It’s reached the point where the best runes for any possible condi class is always perplexity. When the rune set defines the build and not the class or the traits, you know something has gone too far.

Anet i think its about time you admit there is a problem and just remove perplexity from the game.

Cufufalating.8479:

Ezrael.6859:

The issue between Power and Conditions is how much direct damage can be negated compared to conditions in a fight between the two.

Power damage comes in large chunks, often with clear animations. If you avoid this damage through dodge, blind or block you negate a huge amount of damage.

Direct damage can be further reduced through toughness, protection and the weakness debuff.

Conditions on the other hand are applied a small amount at a time in rapid succession to build up and up in damage over time, quickly reaching 1000-2000 DPS. This means that successfully negating an attack through blind, block or dodge is far less effective overall.

Several conditions can be applied and stacked from range using trait and weapon procs simply by using auto-attack. There is nothing significant to dodge here, you only delay the damage application by 1s by dodging.
Compared to dodging away from a 100B and missing all that burst.

That is true to an extent but direct damage build dont only rely on big hits to kill, they too can wear down opponets the same way conditions do.

Take for example a typical full rabid trap ranger build. On this build, if I am flanking and crit and proc my bleed on crit trait with my shortbow AA I could stack 2 bleeds for a combined duration of 5s (3 from SB, 2 from trait).

With a setup like that my bleeds will tick for 150 ish, and my damge will be 150-250 depending on the target, so essentially my Auto-Attack is going to do 900-1000 damage in total over the next 5 seconds.

A power build could EASILY do the same damage with an auto attack – easily. Full zerker builds can be hitting 2-3k with AA, but thats an extreme case so we wont go off that. The point is though that a condition build is not doing any more damage with its little attacks stacking up than a power build would, its probably even doing less, its just that people dont react to condition builds the same way.

If someone is fighting s warrior and get hits with 3 auto attacks and takes 5K damage, they get nervous and back off or play more defensively, but if they get hit my 3 AA from a condition build and take 800 damage and 5 stacks of bleeding they think “hes barely hurting me, I’m going to keep attacking”, all the while not realising that they are playing themselves into a corner.

My point is.. while conditions builds do wear people down with lots of little attacks often, its something power can do as well they just choose not to because they prefer to go for the #3-5 skill which could hit 8k instantly, instead of playing is slow and using the smaller hits that people wont/cant dodge, or using the ranged weapons that hit less but will hit constantly.

The problem is that condition builds can do this kind of damage, while specing to be full tank, this is because of how condition damage works. Lets say your playing the build you mentioned. You only need condition damage to effect your damage, and some amount of precision to get you around 30% crit chance, every other stat can go to making you tanky, so by using a combination of rabid and dire and you can be max condi dps and max tank. This is made worse by the fact that every profession’s trait line has condition damage paired with either toughness or precision, making it even easier to gain these stats.

For direct damage you need both power and crit damage to augment the damage you deal, and you also need precision to help you reach this damage, so while full zerker will do more damage then a condi class by alot, it does so by sacrificing all of its survivability stats, and the more and more survivability stats you add the more your direct damage suffers, to the point where if you reach the same tankiness that a condi tank can reach, you are putting out much lower dps.

Ezrael.6859:

The issue between Power and Conditions is how much direct damage can be negated compared to conditions in a fight between the two.

Power damage comes in large chunks, often with clear animations. If you avoid this damage through dodge, blind or block you negate a huge amount of damage.

Direct damage can be further reduced through toughness, protection and the weakness debuff.

Conditions on the other hand are applied a small amount at a time in rapid succession to build up and up in damage over time, quickly reaching 1000-2000 DPS. This means that successfully negating an attack through blind, block or dodge is far less effective overall.

Several conditions can be applied and stacked from range using trait and weapon procs simply by using auto-attack. There is nothing significant to dodge here, you only delay the damage application by 1s by dodging.
Compared to dodging away from a 100B and missing all that burst.

Condition removal is inferior to condition application in terms of the speed at which conditions can be applied vs removed. There is no equivalent for toughness.

Power builds need 3 damage stats to be most effective. Condition builds only need 1 stat, and while condition duration can be added to make a difference Condition builds also gain a huge boon in the form of Food.

+40% Condition Duration food means that a player can quite easily only aim for Condition Damage as a single damage stat and still do comparable sustained DPS to a Power build, while also retaining the two defensive stats through Dire gear.
And conditions innately provide both soft and hard cc and several debuffs to movement, direct damage attack and healing.

This is a well thought out post, summing up all the problems with condi tank specs atm, whenever anyone claims nothing is wrong with condi’s people should just copy and paste this post, hopefully it is copy and pasted into enough threads that the dev’s see it and realize they messed up.

idk if anyone has ever suggested this before, but a great way to make aura’s more part of our defense would be to do something like this.

Get rid of the elemental attunement trait and just make it part of the elementalist (which it should already be) , replace the trait with one that gives you an aura when you swap to an attunement depending on the attunement, with some kind of icd to keep it balanced

I’ve tried most possible builds with 30 earth for diamond skin as the only constant since the patch in both pvp and wvw, and while its incredibly overpowered 1v1 against a condi class (you can basically go afk against a condi mesmer), it quickly loses its relevance in 1vX or group fights due to the low hp pool for ele. I’ve since pretty much given up on it and switched back to my usual 0/10/0/30/30 with the new soothing wave trait which has been very good so far.

Rennoko.5731:

Legion.1569:

Kcrook.3945:

Flytrap.8075:

Tricare.2946:

Flytrap.8075:

Are you in this video? Think you guys should change your guild name, wiped you 3-4 times, you dropped a lot of bags.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8HSW_SsxU

Nope

I hope you don’t think you are good now… I mean congrats on stomping the guard once and then running from the second fight? Your video definitely doesn’t back up your claims and I’m assuming you put in your best footage… Anyways, if you would like to set up a 3v3 or 5v5 we are more than happy to be there.

Apparently wiping us 3-4 times to them means stomping the guard twice and not killing anyone else. For some reason that necro decided not to include in the video the 1v1 he had with our thief where he got wrecked, or the time that all three of them got wiped.

So since you all died and i never did, thx for the bags?

My goodness you guys are angry people….. try not to be so sensitive. You are fighting 30 feet from a tower, and about a stones throw from your spawn, running back anytime you get in trouble? Try playing a class that can’t run like that and boast about how unstompable you are.

Why would I include a video of a thief killing me while I am running an apothecaray group support build (no terror, no dummfire, 0% condition duration)? That would be like your thief posting a video of him 1v1’ing a staff ele…. grats…. I got owned… no question about it. A 0 20 30 20 0 build on an apothecary necro has about the damage potentional of a PVT guardian with weakness on, a GREAT 1v1 build. Sorry I couldn’t measure up to your standard run of the mill stealth spamming P/D D/D thief. I will try to get on his level next time.

The entire purpose of the video had nothing to do with skill or proving some sort of kitten contest, it was to show the new necro signet in action and solicit comments from the necro community on the figures…. Tricare just wanted to get you guys worked up so he posted it here…. looks like mission accomplished.

lol, it looks like your the one who got a bit worked up. Love how you started the post by calling other people angry and sensitive, and then followed it up by being overly angry and sensitive lolololol.

Tricare.2946:

Legion.1569:

lol seeing as you never came close to getting me below half life, you definitely “wiped” me bro. But yeah the one fight you “wiped” us is the only fight you didnt record. Nothing sketchy about that.

lol at the 3v6+ i know were good but you dont have to count us each twice.

Nice excuse with the necro heal, keep backpedaling and maybe someone might believe you some day. That was my second time ever playing a warrior in wvw, but you dont see me using that as an excuse for… i guess i dont need an excuse cause you couldnt kill me anyway lol.

If you even watched the video, you were at about 33% health at 45 seconds into the video…. I wonder what you did…. oh ran away.

Seeing as you guys didn’t get any of us below 50% health in a 3v4, you are not that good and I should count 2 of you as just 1.

The necro trying a new build isn’t an excuse for anything other than the alleged 1v1 with the thief.

Also, bragging about being on the easiest class to run away with, isn’t anything special. /slow clap

lol why would i watch a video made by terrible players? i already saw how bad you were when i fought you why do i need to see it again.

In the first fight we had with you guys we got all of you into down state at one point or another, another fight that im sure has mysteriously dissapeared from your video, but your definitely making yourself out to be a credible source.

I like how all your posts claimed you “wiped” us all, but now that you’ve been called out on it, your backpedaling on that too.

I see mag is still trying to be better at pvf then actual fighting.

Tricare.2946:

Legion.1569:

Kcrook.3945:

Flytrap.8075:

Tricare.2946:

Flytrap.8075:

Are you in this video? Think you guys should change your guild name, wiped you 3-4 times, you dropped a lot of bags.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8HSW_SsxU

Nope

I hope you don’t think you are good now… I mean congrats on stomping the guard once and then running from the second fight? Your video definitely doesn’t back up your claims and I’m assuming you put in your best footage… Anyways, if you would like to set up a 3v3 or 5v5 we are more than happy to be there.

Apparently wiping us 3-4 times to them means stomping the guard twice and not killing anyone else. For some reason that necro decided not to include in the video the 1v1 he had with our thief where he got wrecked, or the time that all three of them got wiped.

So since you all died and i never did, thx for the bags?

We did wipe all of you the first fight. We don’t record a lot of fights because they are too easy.

The only time you killed all 3 of us, was when it was 3v6+ and you chased the ele/guardian through the ruins.

Also, if you can read those word things in the video, the necromancer was testing a new build out for group healing.

lol seeing as you never came close to getting me below half life, you definitely “wiped” me bro. But yeah the one fight you “wiped” us is the only fight you didnt record. Nothing sketchy about that.

lol at the 3v6+ i know were good but you dont have to count us each twice.

Nice excuse with the necro heal, keep backpedaling and maybe someone might believe you some day. That was my second time ever playing a warrior in wvw, but you dont see me using that as an excuse for… i guess i dont need an excuse cause you couldnt kill me anyway lol.

Kcrook.3945:

Flytrap.8075:

Tricare.2946:

Flytrap.8075:

Are you in this video? Think you guys should change your guild name, wiped you 3-4 times, you dropped a lot of bags.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8HSW_SsxU

Nope

I hope you don’t think you are good now… I mean congrats on stomping the guard once and then running from the second fight? Your video definitely doesn’t back up your claims and I’m assuming you put in your best footage… Anyways, if you would like to set up a 3v3 or 5v5 we are more than happy to be there.

Apparently wiping us 3-4 times to them means stomping the guard twice and not killing anyone else. For some reason that necro decided not to include in the video the 1v1 he had with our thief where he got wrecked, or the time that all three of them got wiped.

So since you all died and i never did, thx for the bags?

Andy.9137:

Legion.1569:

After extensive research i can now say with certainty, that neither FA nor DB have a single not horrendously bad player between them. I am truly dissapointed in the effort these servers have put forward to not be this horrendously bad. That is all.

if you want 2v2s or 3v3s let me know. Would be happy to change your perspective. troll or not.

Ah when i made my post i actually forgot about corp, we 3v3’ed you last matchup i think, you guys are pretty good, your terribad server doesnt deserve you.

After extensive research i can now say with certainty, that neither FA nor DB have a single not horrendously bad player between them. I am truly dissapointed in the effort these servers have put forward to not be this horrendously bad. That is all.

Lenador.1436:

Johje Holan.4607:

sovereign.4128:

Legion.1569:

Honestly dont know so far who has worse roamers between DB and FA, everyone is just soooo bad lol.

I know FA has literally the worst players in the game (even though core transfering there somehow brought down the average with how bad they are lol), hopefully DB is only sending out the terribad roamers on reset and the less terrible ones come out during the week but i doubt it.

must be trolling.. i dont even.. what??

Legion makes the exact same post in every match. Perhaps should go to Mag for awhile and learn how its done.

Complaining about roamers means nothing these days espesially when you play easymode builds, T.T guardian and ranger roamers shall rise again

So glad to see my little fan club is growing. Im averaging about 10 posts talking about me after every post i make, its not bad but i can always get better.

fyi i solo roam on d/d ele, none of these cheese fotm condi tank nonsense builds that all the baddies play these days.

Honestly dont know so far who has worse roamers between DB and FA, everyone is just soooo bad lol.

I know FA has literally the worst players in the game (even though core transfering there somehow brought down the average with how bad they are lol), hopefully DB is only sending out the terribad roamers on reset and the less terrible ones come out during the week but i doubt it.

I have yet to find a single person in this matchup who is anything more then a loot bag with arms and legs. Try stepping slightly away from the zerg once in a while and you might be less terrible.

Chaba.5410:

Andy.9137:

I wish my friends and I had more time to roam, fa isn’t that terrible.

Holy Pickle, that’s just DDLG’s PvF for you with little to show in-game.

lol coming from SIC who are literally the worst blobbing group ive ever seen. Talked endless kitten on the forums but refused to gvg us, go back to your own thread scrub lolololol

dreztina.4820:

Legion.1569:

So all trash talk aside, my take on these 2 servers

Magumma: To be honest mag has some good blobbing guilds, had some good gvg’s and fights with VR and Ark (before they got interrupted) They also have some decent roamers in Aon even though you guys tend to run in groups far larger then a typical roaming group ( apart from Aon all the mag roaming guilds are terrible, just look at swag lolololol)

FA: Has by far the worst player skill per player of any server ive faced (and i think ive faced everyone but T1 at this point.) Just awful on every level, from large group to small man to solo. I dont think FA is tanking this matchup i just think there so terribad that when they cant zerg down another group 3 to 1 they just get crushed

Just my thoughts on the matchup

Yak’s Bend. FA is terrible, but I have yet to see another server as sad as YB.

Yak’s Bend is definitely a contender. they are pretty awful lol

Naztharius.7639:

Legion.1569:

So all trash talk aside, my take on these 2 servers

Magumma: To be honest mag has some good blobbing guilds, had some good gvg’s and fights with VR and Ark (before they got interrupted) They also have some decent roamers in Aon even though you guys tend to run in groups far larger then a typical roaming group ( apart from Aon all the mag roaming guilds are terrible, just look at swag lolololol)

FA: Has by far the worst player skill per player of any server ive faced (and i think ive faced everyone but T1 at this point.) Just awful on every level, from large group to small man to solo. I dont think FA is tanking this matchup i just think there so terribad that when they cant zerg down another group 3 to 1 they just get crushed

Just my thoughts on the matchup

I’m sure FA is at least more skilled then SF.

idk unless SF got alot worse since i last fought them they are nowhere near as bad as FA

All week ive been wanting anet to nerf perplexity runes, but tonight i ran into about 15 different perplexity rune thieves from both servers, that literally only served the purpose of turning into free loot bags for me, so if perplexity makes terrible players run terrible builds im all for them.

Shoutout in particular to the 4 FA pistol whip thieves that got spawn camped by 2 people lololololol

Quinti.5204:

welp, seems like a can’t roam around solo and try and get 1v1 fights. I’ll just get teamed up on. Nice work~

i know what you mean, this is like the worst matchup ever for solo or small group roaming. Noone runs outside of a zerg of atleast 20 and even the “roaming guilds” roam with 10-15 people.

My fanclub is growing, half the posts on this thread are people quoting me, im honored.

deathTouch.9706:

Legion.1569:

deathTouch.9706:

Legion.1569:

Huge props to ARK, you guys are really good
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at being the biggest cowards on the planet lol, idk how you guys have fun straight line running from literally every single fight where you dont outnumber people by a huge amount. There are other strategies out there besides retreat!!!

Our guild roaming group of 4 people wiped 6 [bags] guys (mesmer, ele, 2 guards, necro and war) + 2 Abyss thieves + some random SBI at ruins on FA borderlands about 2 hours ago. Then they came back after respawning and wiped again in piecemail fashion.

It was funny because they thought they had a big numbers advantage and were going to easily kill us and instead wiped. It was one of the most amusing small group events I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing in 1500-some hours of gameplay. My only regret is that no one was running fraps at the time.

There were literally 0 people repping bags tonight up until about 20 minutes ago, so im 100% that didnt happen or wasnt us, but nice try brah lol. Making up stories to impress your friends makes you really cool.

Yeah, it clearly said [bags].

I’d be embarrassed too after that. I think it has been well-established that SBI in general lacks on individual and small group skill but holy crap that’s the worst I’ve seen since release.

Then we must have a tribute guild, because there was literally noone repping bags at that time, also we dont have any warriors in the guild atm lol. But if you want to stick to your made up story to look cool on the forums, then more power to ya.

Having played in the lower tiers for a long time and having recently faced most of the middle to upper tier servers, i believe i can safely say that the individual and small group skill on maguma and FA is the lowest ive ever seen. Every other server ive faced has atleast 1-2 decent roaming guilds, but these servers literally have 0.

I recommend stepping out of the zerg once in a while just to see what you can do on your own. You might have some fun.

deathTouch.9706:

Legion.1569:

Huge props to ARK, you guys are really good
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at being the biggest cowards on the planet lol, idk how you guys have fun straight line running from literally every single fight where you dont outnumber people by a huge amount. There are other strategies out there besides retreat!!!

Our guild roaming group of 4 people wiped 6 [bags] guys (mesmer, ele, 2 guards, necro and war) + 2 Abyss thieves + some random SBI at ruins on FA borderlands about 2 hours ago. Then they came back after respawning and wiped again in piecemail fashion.

It was funny because they thought they had a big numbers advantage and were going to easily kill us and instead wiped. It was one of the most amusing small group events I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing in 1500-some hours of gameplay. My only regret is that no one was running fraps at the time.

There were literally 0 people repping bags tonight up until about 20 minutes ago, so im 100% that didnt happen or wasnt us, but nice try brah lol. Making up stories to impress your friends makes you really cool.

I dont know if im less impressed with Maguma and FA’s blobbing groups or with their small man, because both are fairly atrocious.

Kinda disappointing. Are all higher tier servers this bad or are these two the exception?

To the GLOB guild that we gvg’d earlier, good fights, i had alot of fun. You guys got better each fight so keep it up.

So i apologize. Before, when i called SIC terrible i had not witnessed their true blobbing strength i was only able to witness their solo roamer terribads.

But after just witnessing their unparalleled blobbing technique, i can now say with certainty that they are absolutely terrible lol

“We dont blob guys we only stack up with all heavy armor hammer classes do an initial hit and run away, totally not blobbing” -some scrub guildleader of SIC

You totally killed a random pug each time though, so thats not bad considering it was 4 bags and 3 pugs against 15 SIC

Loken.9724:

Kcrook.3945:

Loken.9724:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Hey |SC| from Sbi. Ty for the fights. It was a fun afternoon. I know I was certainly disappointed when you stoped coming out. Rage quit ? Or was it just time to log?

Anyways

Ty.

Ugh, you do realize SIC does not run weekends right? Well done baddie you killed a couple roamers on alts.

EXCUSES!!!! 10v10 plz.

you want to fight us, you show up to 15v15. theres a reason no legit guild does 10v10 anymore. Its a joke.

That or you show up to our spvp night.

We have a private server, we invite friends from random servers in, we duel/do small group fights in there most of the night.

If you want to show up, PM me in game.

clearly its much easier for 10 people to find 5 other people to join their group then it is for 15 people to ask 5 to sit out……

and as oozo said earlier the less people in a fight the more individual skill matters so clearly you are not confident in your guild member’s ability to do anything other then hammerstun on a target.

The Cats Pajamas.2641:

Tots.3056:

Well here’s my post for the week.

IoJ was bad, and is still bad.

Keep up the fights COREHARD those are actually pretty fun.

I’m sorry, but wow. That’s really upsetting that you just said that… I rarely ever post on the forums, but I just had to comment on this.

If IoJ is so bad, how come you moved servers? You couldn’t kill us in DR? I mean, we wiped you in your bl with your organized DDLG zerg and our pug zerg. It was a 25v25, you guys had a little bit more I didn’t see any necro pets or anything, just characters. You guys got rolled that day, and I’m sure the other hundred times too. You guys posted videos of 40 man DDLG organized groups wiping 15 man HARD groups. (source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7uk2TzwDLU)

Honestly, have some respect tots. I’ve seen you say some kitten about IoJ on every DR vs IoJ vs (server here) thread. I should’ve had fraps on when DDLG and other guilds were doing big group raids, and we’d wipe you 90% of the time. I would’ve had over 1,000 youtube videos up.

Besides that, thanks SBI for some intense fights outside the red keep in eb, I’ve gotten a lot better with d/d. But I had to repair all the time because of that stupid cannon from SM

your bad and you should feel bad for being so bad.

sephiroth.4217:

Everytime without failure an SBI dies and 20 rock up and laugh about zerging a person…

I can’t decide if you are that bad that it’s an accomplishment for you to kill 1 person with 20 or if you are just disgraceful gamers.

u mad? that picture is out of context, i killed you on my upscaled thief 1v1 then called in 19 other people to help me laugh at your body.

WFD was definitely waiting for death tonight, and they didnt want to wait very long, musta been pretty impatient.

Shanks R Us.2489:

For luls, I present to you my newest installment in the Zane-series, Uplevel Genocide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlfRM8e1zEo

1v7

your a terrible person zane

Theftwind.8976:

I will give you an example that happened about 5 hours ago which epitomizes the bravery of the DR solo roamer. I stumbled upon a DR Guardian outside of a recently capped NE camp. Now you would think that Guardian versus Guardian would be a good fight right? Well not exactly. After hitting him twice he turned tail and ran. Now since some of our guys were in the NE camp he could not run there for safety so he proceeded to run all the way to the North camp in order to catch up to the zerg.

I chased him all the way, finally catching him just inside the gates of the north camp and putting him down. Mind you I did wave to him before I finished him off.

Words cannot express how proud i am of you.

Then your traited wrong lol. And i dont particularly care if you have an issue with our members. Im more then willing to admit when we lose with even numbers, it happens, we learn from it and move on. But when you actually had 3x our numbers and you get wiped anyway, im sure as kitten gonna call you out on it.

And the gvg invitation extends to any ioj guild not just your little guild.

lol cmon fluffy, ive killed you countless times in the middle of your zergs and spent the time to laugh at your body. your a signet of malice shortbow thief, about as easy to kill as an upscaled ranger.. Remember what happened when you called your 2 guildies into the camp? yeah they got wrecked 1v2.

As loosin said we had 21 people in ts, against a minimum of your 60, so the fact that you guys wiped as much as you did and cowarded as much as you did is pathetic. Eventually we got tired of waiting for your giant zerg to push so we said kitten it and charged in against 3x our numbers.

But according to you we had even numbers and you wiped us, so can we interest you in an even number gvg? no? didnt think so.

Those were some fun fights, when you guys would actually fight. Youve got the stacking tactics down but your supposed to actually push and not coward up when you have triple the numbers of the other side, i understand if your not there yet.

@fluffy You always make me laugh (like when i laughed on your body for 5 minutes) but by your math if you guys had only 30-35 people we only had 3 and 2 of them were afk pets.

After all the kitten talk that goes on on these forums i find it really funny that so many people are crying about someone calling a server stupid. Apparently calling people stupid is just crossing the line.

I didnt make the video, i didnt make the title, but now im glad thakittens called what it is cause of how many people it kitten ed off.

(In the future try not to get wiped by looking stupid and you wont have videos made calling you stupid)

as i said in the post we found the exact same group 5 minutes later and wiped them again without the cannons, so the situation looked exactly the same.

i didnt make the video, dont blame me for the label.

Tukmolytes.3467:

What I observed in this week’s matchup.

DR – [DDLG] is not what they used to be 2-3 weeks ago when we faced them. You guys looks scattered this time and twice we rolled over your zerg. I don’t know if you guys was unorganized or IoJ got the counter for you.

GoM – Common guys! Do not WP or alt-tab godkitten it! Lets fight head on. I need to use like 3 speed buffs to chase your zerg. You got the numbers, fight like a man.

yeah bro you diffidently wiped us. Guildie managed to capture this video. Dont worry we wiped that same zerg again 5 minutes later without the cannons.

nice double team on our bl, ioj and gom how many keeps you manage to take with your zergs? 0? better luck next time, stick to pvdooring

im a tiny asuran ele in ddlg/bags find me in the field and ill be more then happy to kill you, whats your toon look like so ill know when your dead?

ioj you forgot to flash build acs open field, thats probably why you got wiped with three times our numbers in our bl.

and @ARM if you think eles are nerfed to hell and arent good anymore i suggest you l2p
eles being bad and you not being able to rtl away from 1v1 fights anymore arent the same thing.

Oozo needs to start pushing blinds all over this thread.

doesnt take many people to hold keeps from ioj they’ve gotten too used to only fighting doors

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Legion.1569:

congrats ioj on taking your hills back right as we got a waypoint. Only took you bringing more golems then we had defenders and another 40 people on top of it lol

but wait based on how ioj views things that was an even numbers fight and you outmaneuvered us gg.

I see you play drunk as well. With that in mind, we won’t bring up the whole “math” ordeal and I’ll simply propose a gentleman’s toast.

Srs: Golems were dead well before the Lords room. Golems didn’t contribute to so many DR loot bags. Golems didn’t kick you out of our Hills. IoJ did. Hashtag IOJISLORDING

GoM: Nike called. They wish to sponsor your running away from equal or somewhat intimidating numbers tactics. And change their logo to “Just GoM It” to further market running shoes. Seriously, half of IoJ has retraited to Chase builds. If you don’t have a tower/keep to run to you wipe. And it’s bad.

lol you couldnt of gotten more then 10 loot bags as there werent more then 10 of us there. but we got plenty of loot bags from the 40 of you so dont worry

congrats ioj on taking your hills back right as we got a waypoint. Only took you bringing more golems then we had defenders and another 40 people on top of it lol

but wait based on how ioj views things that was an even numbers fight and you outmaneuvered us gg.

nice try there in eb ioj :P, it wouldve worked if i didnt spot you at the last second

whichever mesmers got those portals into hills lords room at ioj, ty for the 20 kills per, but i recommend for the sake of your server that you reroll another class cause you do not know how to portal bomb lol

To that hacking necro in TFOR on ET, nice hax bro, its a shame you guys still wiped at bay with more then double our numbers

we decided to be efficient with our siege placement.

elementalists are the only ones who use them so yeah it is