1on1 on a big place or with “useless” builds in teamfights. I speak from both, not only from once. On all builds that i know (which are strong in 1on1) you are a easy “focustarget”. I think on all builds the engi actually have (excluded the decap-build) there are one or more profession which is more effective in that role than a engi.
55 HP Monks = ELE, inform yourself before you speak.
Doesn’t change the fact that decap-engineer is a broken spec. Even if it is not such a viable specc in your opinion.
Sorry, they change their name so often.
Anyway: ESL / VoTF?
The only thing i said is, that there are teams who can counter (or outplay) it.
The engis can’t play a other build competive, because all other builds are crap (i think all other builds loose 1v1 vs Warrior, Nekro and Ranger if they don’t play really bad).
Ok, decap engis have to go (because you can’t handle it, lol).
Can we (the engis) please have a other viable build (which don’t loose most of the 1on1 or can be easy focussed)?
I think the true problem of engi: There is no other competition build for him. (And that kittening game mode).
Last but not least: Decap engi isn’t in all competition teams, but Guardian and Warrior.
Again, why is Engi op (and not in all teams), but no teams can play without Guardion and Warrior?
There are two teams that can deal with it in EU. The reason is, there are not other teams on the same level as those. Just because 2 Teams don’t play a specc in a competiton-dead game, doesn’t mean the specc is easy to handle.
No, there are 3 (ore more) Teams.
And: Every Condition-Engineer (with grenades) can beat a Bunker-Engineer. It’s not easy, but it’s possible.
With Hambow (zerker) and good play (18+ Mightstacks everytime) you will beat 99% of the engineers ingame. If the last 1% of engineer do one (1!) fail, he will die. Not instant, but the dmg over time is too high.
If a team plays with an decapper, their close will be “free” (or they fight outnumbered on the “Teamfight”). Learn to handle it (Deacap/Cap it with a Roamer). Try to fight at that place, where the engi is (he will never have a 1on1).
You try to kill him in 1on1? No Problem:
If you have a competent thief (like sizar / Guiletta Fuison / Shad) or warrior (like Rom / Fake), you can handle it. (Most of the time)
If Engi loose the Decap Build and become
an other strong Build like
CC, survivability, mightstacks, Condicleans + Immunity (wait, Hambow?)
or
“perma evade”, boonrip, high mobility (2 ports or more), rezzsuport (wait, Thief?)
or
Condicleanse for Group, stability, a lot of Blocks/immunity (wait, Guard?)
or
Easy to play-1-1-1-1-1, Party-rezz, surivability (evades), Burnproccs, CC (Knockdown/immo) …. (wait, Hunter?)
If we become somthing like that, i have absolute no problem to loose the Decap-Build.
It’s not AR, stability or whatever the problem of decap engis.
It’s conquest mode. Creating a build to play against a red/blue circle is just stupid, and decap engi is stupid as a bunker guardian, a regen warrior and so on. And i play decap engi, it’s a lot of fun imo, but still..fix conquest mode (by adding new ones that do not require players to run around in a red circle) and these builds will go away by themselves, without changing mecanics that could have a deeper impact to the game just because of one build..
I agree with this.
I think AR and knockbacks aren’t the only problem of the engineer. He has too less mechanics to survive.
Thief has evade/stealth, mesmer too (and immunitys)
Warr has a good healthpool, strong armor and a strong skills/mechanics (like F1 full -> you remove 3 condis)
Nekros has a good healthpool, F1 and a lot of cc (fear)
Engi has (what it has actually (for not playing bunker) … ? )
If a Thief can play, engis can’t decap vs him.
Most kicks will miss (blind/evade [d/p | s/p | s/d]). If the engi hits him, he have 3 instant ports (=no decap) with steal, shadowstep and signet.
If a Thief loose the point vs a decap engi; the Thief is realy bad.
Sorry for all the “haters” and “we need 2 people to kill a decap-egni”.
THAT is wrong.
A good Thief (S/P // S/D) and a 1on1 War (not Hambow) can kill an Engi alone.
Ranger (111111 …. 111111) too, but he needs to “freecap” the Point (not taken a cc).
With Nekro it’s tricky, but he can beat the engi too.
In the top 10 of Teamq are (max) 4 or less Teams who plays with a decap-engi, but all plays with guard and war.
The best 3 teams has all a Thief.
