Guild Wars 2

Impact.2780:

Great to see a mod response! Thank you! It gives me a little hope that this is being worked on and significant headway might be made at some point.

Gambit.8425:

I used to have “all the above” problems during primetime for months. Then I googled my cable modem, Netgear CG3700, and found out that its internal router is unreliable and could cause problems in specifically online games. People recommended to disable the router, run the modem as a bridge only and buy an extended router if there is a need for one.

Since that day I turned off the router mode, I have had no lag outside the “normal” WvW zerg friday reset that everyone gets. I’m no network engineer and don’t know why only GW2 was affected by this, but it would explain why VPNs can reduce the lag for those with otherwise stable connections.

Did you have those problems constantly, or would you have periods of say… 4 weeks frequent lag spikes, 5 weeks perfectly fine, 4 days lag spikes, 6 days fine etc? Seemingly random but long periods with either consistent latency or latency spikes.

I wouldn’t get your hopes up, we’ve been getting these general responses for over 4 months now and the issue is still there, now even worse than ever. I’ve also tried everything I could from my side (meddled with my TCP settings, used proxies, …………) and nothing works. What’s worse is that now I’m getting disconnected every 10-15 minutes of gameplay, even in PvE.

Start >> Control Panel >> Network and Sharing Center >> Change adapter settings

Right click on your active connection and select Properties.
Click on “Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)” and select Properties
Under the General tab, enable “Use the following DNS server addresses” and type the following:

Preferred DNS server: 8.8.4.4
Alternate DNS server: 8.8.8.8.

These are Google’s public DNS settings (or so they say…). Click OK and you should be able to log in. If not, wait 10 years for Anet to respond and another 50 years for them to identify the problem and say it’s not on their end. Kinda standard procedure here…

An update from my side.

I am now at a different location as I was when the problems started (on holiday). I’m on a different computer, with a wired connection, different ISP and a different connection speed (20/20). The problem remains the same – during prime time, I get random disconnects, everyone around me keeps warping around, the skill lag can be from 1s to 10s and generally the game is unplayable.

So don’t waste your time and resources on your own machines to diagnose the problem, because you won’t find it. Your PC/laptops are fine – the problem is on their end. What it is exactly, I don’t know, but once they drop their ignorance and start diagnosing/fixing their servers, maybe we’ll get stable connections. Not before.

Today is 18.12.2014, two years since this bug was first reported. After playing with one of my characters through the story mode, I had it happen to me not 5 minutes ago.

I’m sorry, but this is a total, inexcusable disgrace for any gaming company, not to mention a company with such a huge player base…

It’s definitely not my net provider. WoW works like a charm, so does LoL, CoD multi and other games that require a connection.

Also, every site I go to opens in an instant.

Guildwars2.com, on the other hand, takes ages to load, I need to wait cca 5 minutes for the confirmation email to log in and even when I do press the play button, I get disconnected before even reaching the character selection screen.

Shame, really. I started playing the game again since May and wanted to buy some gems since there is finally a lot of new and useful content in the game. But seeing how their attitude towards critical issues such as this one hasn’t changed one bit (ignorance to the max) and how their IT department obviously doesn’t have a clue what they’re doing, I’m really glad I didn’t do the purchase.

Yup, the same thing happens to me. I can play the game just fine, except between 20.00 and 23.00 CET (prime time EU, Far Shiverpeaks). Then I start lagging, get a DC and there is no way in hell I can reconnect because the connection is always lost.

So… how long until Anet realizes the problem is on their end and fixes the matter? 1 year? 2? 10?

Constant disconnects for the past 2 hours that occur in the first five minutes of gameplay. Even accessing this site takes forever to load.

Bloodstealer.5978:

This is just another smoke screen thread like the CDI stuff.. they know the issues are there and have always been there… everyone is getting the same skill lag on all maps .. just own up to the issue ANET.. ooh and make a statement on the state of the game sometime soon like why the goldspammers are rife again, the plethora of cheats and hacks are left to run wild… this is just one big mess now..

Devon – Boss da players are complaining about the skill lag again
Boss – Just do what we do with all the other WvW issues and CDI’s – put a red sticky out to ask for info.. it will keep them busy , then just keep saying we might have spotted something, then put another red sticky out saying its gunna take some more time.. eventually they will find something else to cry about
Devon – But, But.. even I can’t cast my heal skill
Boss -Grr how many times I gotta tell ya – Just spam #1 and it will all be fine
Devon – Ok boss will do.

- 30mins later –
Devon – Boss it takes so long to kill dat invisible attacker using only my #1 skill, cos even that lags now
Boss – OMG!… How many times I gotta tell ya – You CAN’T kill what you cant see.. live with it.. its only another 9 weeks then we can all sit back and forget all about it… now am I paying you to stand here talking all day or are you going to get some gem sales on the books anytime soon!!

Agreed. Still, don’t wanna be off-topic so here’s the info you want:

What kind of issue are you specifically having that could be related to lag?
1) Warping
2) Skill lag (2-60 seconds)
3) Occasional lag spikes (a 2 second disconnect, then everything on the battlefield shifts and I’m dead)

What server are you on?
Far Shiverpeaks (EU). The same thing had been happening on Gunnar’s Hold, Ruins of Surmia, Piken Square and Seafarer’s Rest, all since March 2013 when I transferred from Fissure of Woe (dead server in terms of wvw, ofc they don’t have lag).

Has there ever been a time when you or a friend are experiencing lag, while others in your party are not?
No.

Has there ever been a time where one party in a map is experiencing lag, while other parties in that same map are not?
No.

Do you experience the lag at very specific times?
I experience it mostly when there’s a 2-way fight (40v40 people). The skill lag is about 2-5 seconds. When there’s a 3-way (30v30v30), nothing works, nothing casts, everyone just warps around. The chat window works like a charm, with no latency whatsoever.

It’s not the lag itself, but as Xoranium said, WvW lag has been present for at least a year now with people reporting and giving info on a daily basis (including me). And still no fix? A very professional attitude Anet, well done.

I heard about that trick and how the user got banned for doing so. Not sure if it’s legit, but seeing how people got banned in the past for no reason whatsoever, I’m not gonna push my luck.

Yeah, that would be the only plausible explanation…. I really don’t see a good reason why they can’t just make a feature where the bags open until there is space in your inventory. Or at least make a feature to open up 5 or 10 bags at once.

Would it be possible to implement something in the game that would let you open like 10 or 20 bags with just one click, or a full 250 stack of them? Seriously, this double clicking and opening up singles is getting pretty annoying.

Riondron.1069:

Liquid Storm.8097:

Riondron.1069:

Liquid Storm.8097:

Riondron.1069:

GvG is stupid blah blah blah

What the people in WvW do is none of your concern. If there are 20 people on your server that want to do a GvG, there are also 20 people on another server that want to do them. So the numbers are even. And if you are so concerned about losing because of those 20 people fighting a private match for 30-60 minutes and not capping stuff, then your community should seriously consider forming more WvW-based guilds.

As for your comment about not interfering – it’s about respect. Of course you can jump right in the middle of a GvG fight, the game won’t hinder you and the devs won’t ban you if you do. But considering there is no official GvG mode in Guild Wars 2 (the irony) and guilds may only play that mode in WvW, show some respect and consideration and do not interfere. After all, guilds doing GvGs get better by doing them and they can see whether they’re on the right track. The data they get from wiping in WvW is insufficient because you can’t tell whether they’re fighting bigger groups or smaller groups, organized or disorganized, level 80 with proper gear or without.

So stop complaining, go play WvW like you want to play it and let others play it like they want.

Really? How about the gvg’ers start having respect for their server by actually contributing. and if those same guilds can’t get the ‘data’ they need by fighting for real in wvw, then they should probably be playing Mario Cart.

Who usually wipes enemy blobs? Who storms in to save the day when there’s a threeway at Bay? Who is coordinating with another guild to capture Garrison while the other guild serves as a decoy at Hills? Organized guilds. And why are these organized guilds wiping groups twice or even thrice their size? Because they are coordinated and know their stuff. Why’s that? That’s right, GvGs.

Saying these guilds don’t contribute to WvW and gain points for their server is an insult to every guild who has done both WvW and GvG.

An insult? I have belonged to many organized guilds, and even owned one, and we have NEVER dueled or gvg’d. Ever. And we are the ones that are saving towers, wiping zergs, capturing etc… So how do you explain that? And the best part? We do it while the gvg groups are paying pretend behind the windmill. does gvg teach siege placement? does gvg teach attacking or defending a tower? does gvg teach ppl how to properly port a golem train? does it teach them how to stay in a group and not wander off of chase down a group higher numbered ppl? so please tell me again just how much gvg teaches any of these things, and I’ll give you my ocean-front beach house in Arizona, all taxes and transfer fees paid.

….I’m just gonna go ahead and quote Tellerion.

Riondron.1069:

Liquid Storm.8097:

Riondron.1069:

GvG is stupid blah blah blah

What the people in WvW do is none of your concern. If there are 20 people on your server that want to do a GvG, there are also 20 people on another server that want to do them. So the numbers are even. And if you are so concerned about losing because of those 20 people fighting a private match for 30-60 minutes and not capping stuff, then your community should seriously consider forming more WvW-based guilds.

As for your comment about not interfering – it’s about respect. Of course you can jump right in the middle of a GvG fight, the game won’t hinder you and the devs won’t ban you if you do. But considering there is no official GvG mode in Guild Wars 2 (the irony) and guilds may only play that mode in WvW, show some respect and consideration and do not interfere. After all, guilds doing GvGs get better by doing them and they can see whether they’re on the right track. The data they get from wiping in WvW is insufficient because you can’t tell whether they’re fighting bigger groups or smaller groups, organized or disorganized, level 80 with proper gear or without.

So stop complaining, go play WvW like you want to play it and let others play it like they want.

Really? How about the gvg’ers start having respect for their server by actually contributing. and if those same guilds can’t get the ‘data’ they need by fighting for real in wvw, then they should probably be playing Mario Cart.

Who usually wipes enemy blobs? Who storms in to save the day when there’s a threeway at Bay? Who is coordinating with another guild to capture Garrison while the other guild serves as a decoy at Hills? Organized guilds. And why are these organized guilds wiping groups twice or even thrice their size? Because they are coordinated and know their stuff. Why’s that? That’s right, GvGs.

Saying these guilds don’t contribute to WvW and gain points for their server is an insult to every guild who has done both WvW and GvG.

Riondron.1069:

GvG is stupid blah blah blah

What the people in WvW do is none of your concern. If there are 20 people on your server that want to do a GvG, there are also 20 people on another server that want to do them. So the numbers are even. And if you are so concerned about losing because of those 20 people fighting a private match for 30-60 minutes and not capping stuff, then your community should seriously consider forming more WvW-based guilds.

As for your comment about not interfering – it’s about respect. Of course you can jump right in the middle of a GvG fight, the game won’t hinder you and the devs won’t ban you if you do. But considering there is no official GvG mode in Guild Wars 2 (the irony) and guilds may only play that mode in WvW, show some respect and consideration and do not interfere. After all, guilds doing GvGs get better by doing them and they can see whether they’re on the right track. The data they get from wiping in WvW is insufficient because you can’t tell whether they’re fighting bigger groups or smaller groups, organized or disorganized, level 80 with proper gear or without.

So stop complaining, go play WvW like you want to play it and let others play it like they want.

Oh, now he’s “sorry”. He’s only sorry he’s been lectured by his superiors and not of what he did in wvw that day.

How did that guy even get in the Anet staff? His communication is poor, he cannot control himself when things get heated and, above all, he allows himself to be provoked by players. Also, if he’s not on the WvW dev team, as Mr Whiteside has stated, why is he allowed to wear the official Anet tag in WvW and lecture players on RoC?

Normal companies usually issue a temporary suspension for their employee if they have abused their power and I expect Anet to do the same. This should not be tolerated.

Still waiting for a response from one of the devs.

The lack of lag (sort of) is nice tho. ^^

RiOT went to Seafarer’s Rest and VcY went to Aurora Glade.

Was fun, except for one thing. Up until now I thought FSP was a clean server until someone from your ranks (I don’t know who) used a zoom hack to destroy our AC at the back of Hills lord room.

I’m not really mad or disappointed at the player, nor the server tbh. I’m more infuriated at ArenaNet for not dealing with kittening kittened up hackers even after the game’s been out for a whole kitten year! Bugs everywhere, cheaters warping through walls into towers and using hacks to get an advantage, skill lag in bigger fights…. the hell is this?

Kaleygh.1524:

Had lots of good fights against RoS so far, really surprised (in a pleasant way).
As for FR so far i have only seen blobs and emote spam. Hope you guys can do better than that.

Thank you. And as far as FR is concerned, it won’t get better, that’s just their play style – loads and loads of squishy people in a single blob getting downed in less than 5 seconds and ressing their teammates just 2 meters away from your group. I’m actually starting to get the feeling we’re fighting FR bots here.

ich.7086:

Calm down I don’t represent my server, read my posts i’m mainly a roamer, i have no commander tag, my guild has 2 members, personal attack is meaningless.

I agree that FR blob but RoS goes from spread raid guild to one multimap blob which is from my pov a regression – i just want to point it out. About pug I can’t blame for blobbing just notice that FR is full of pug we have little to no raid guild and it’s going to start with some guilds coming from JS. And we have group of 10/20just open your eyes ([Haaa]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uCAGYS4_THE [Auld] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3LsC-_CVhEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F2cGUfCOX3E).

We do not have blob h24 on BL it’s just a multimap blob, like u with only about 10 permanents peoples scouting / roaming / doing daily / trying to take tower or keep …

During my few zerg times in this matchup i didn’t see FR running away but it’s just a personal experience.

Communicate your pov to your own server first before judging others. If FR brings 70 people in a single blob into a borderland, well what do you expect RoS will do? Watch your mindless puggies steamroll everyone with sheer numbers spamming skill 1? It’s already hard enough playing against large groups due to skill lag.

ich.7086:

Seems some were getting tired with this calm matchup thread…

Due to computer overheat (why so rude summer ?) i can’t play but as far i can see RoS has been nightcapping us – USA influx i heard- but except that the only real complaint i can do is about guild raid. The last matchup we had, i used to meet so many 20+ guild raids and now it’s like 60+ zerg composed of former guild raids, i mean why ? u did great last time and managed to beat us in the closest/funniest matchup ever (and it was refreshing) and now it’s like an another server, pretty disappointed. Apart that you are doing a very good job.

To BT, sorry about RNG, sad it seems some of u gave up but keep fighting.

….YOU are disappointed? Your server hasn’t done anything else than blob all week (not once have I seen a FR group consisting of less than 40 people) and even when you met the 25-30 people from RiOT on the battlefield, you ran away. The video Crad posted was actually one of those very rare occasions when FR decided to stop chickening out for some reason and finally fight us.

Also, you can’t blame our pugs for blobbing up, considering the numbers your server puts up in every borderland 24/7. But at least RoS aren’t as pathetic to run away from a fight with relatively even numbers.

EDIT: and I agree fully with MiLkZz about the french mentality. Even Arborstone people like to run away to the closest tower and get on their 9000 ACs in there, even when they outman the enemy. Boring.

Nozdormu.4352:

Because someone told me RiOT, DeX and VcY were coming for us.

Can you please name this someone? I would like to get to know him better on our teamspeak. He already has the TS info, so I won’t bother posting it here…..

Epikindinos.9476:

No, wasnt talking about that Sceinna. We were fighting inside RoS Bay today for hours. 15 GRTS+15-20 pugs. vs Riot + pugs. and we wiped you guys so many times(and you wiped us too, we even lost it in the end), (no 25 arrowcarts either) we had 1-2 but they were usually instantly down after you came inside lords room
and NO it wasn’t 60, highest stack was 35.
and NO I’m not SPGR.

Each time we broke through you had 1 AC at NW inner, 2 ACs at N inner, 2+2 ACs at central gate (one at each side), 1 AC SE and another AC on the roof of the supply depo. Not counting the ACs and ballista in lord’s room. So stop lying please, alright?

CharlieBear.2741:

Liquid Storm.8097:

Well my bag slots (119) got full 3 times during those fights. So yea, he’s for real.

Just to show UW are winning this exclusively cause of their numbers. As soon as there are equal numbers on both sides, UW gets wiped. Again and again.

The only time we had equal numbers was when we wiped you. You had superior numbers throughout them fights.

Oh you mean at bay when you had a gazillion siege up? Yeah, that was fair.

Look, I’m not gonna argue with anyone here. Fact of the matter is UW has been blobbing from day 1 of this matchup. Which is OK frankly, WvW apparently isn’t meant for small group fighting. Annoying, but OK. I’m just surprised you aren’t ticking higher in points with the numbers you’ve been having.

Well my bag slots (119) got full 3 times during those fights. So yea, he’s for real.

Just to show UW are winning this exclusively cause of their numbers. As soon as there are equal numbers on both sides, UW gets wiped. Again and again.

VaaCrow.3076:

Sorry liquid, i didn’t mean to offend, its good that you reported it, i’m just frustrated i wasn’t able to kill you on the stairs in the tower

None taken. Getting too tired of this game to give a kitten.

Shame on me? The bug is at least 6 months old and still no fix.

So yeah, before this gets out of hand, it was me who glitched into Sunnyhill twice just now. First time it was an accident, second time I recorded it for the devs to fix it. No harm done to defenders and thank you for not attacking me after it was clear I was gonna jump down the wall. This tower seriously needs fixing. :-\

Moghwar.8706:

We have some numbers during the weekend, but less during working days. Anyway, stop complaining about blobs. You guys now how to do it too, so w/ever.

Happy looting, at least we had fun doing so tonight.

…was I complaining?

This isn’t the first update on a reset night. And yes, they could’ve waited until at least 7 or 8 CET for it.

smiley.1438:

Duh, the first hours felt like dzagonur had their entire server in RoF borderlands… Hey, WvW has 4 maps, not just one! But hey, great matchup, could have been much worse. So happy fraggin’ everyone.

They also had a full blob on their home bl, and we received reports of a 60 man blob on RoS. How many people does DZ have anyway??

What on earth got into Dzagonur tonight? I think we wiped more than 20 omega golems in 4 hours on RoS and EB bl, jesus.

iorlas, your point being….?

So yeah, GG UW, GG GuM. That’s all I have to say.

aspollos.5639:

Felicitation to commander(major) Underworld, not capable of holding his players.

Has there 20 minutes, Drunk Underworld carries(wears) the North of belvedere – 4 players of arborstone which defende and Underworld once again cheating with a bug of door.

Bravo in guild [ AA] [ TME] [FFI] [ TS] [ NWA] of credit note still used her(it) cheats for reussir a grip(taking).

It becomes a habit on waiter(server), thus Is going to need that arena take penalties.

We everything the players of arborstone that we see Cheating are aussitot adjournment(transfer).

…..say what?

Yes I Cap.5389:

I for one am changing server I point blank refuse to spend another week in this kitten hole trash can of a tier

You guys are more than welcome back to RoS. I find it funny tho how T9 always seems to follow wherever VcY goes.

Ahhhh finally a great matchup! Good luck guys and have fun.

And a very special welcome to some RoF people who have moved to our server this week due to their server’s unfortunate matchup. Hope you enjoy your stay. ^^

Jamo, I only posted my experience and thoughts, seeing how I was on FoW once. Nothing more, nothing less. And about Blue – no one can come even close to his arrogance.

This is gonna be my last post in this topic because I had to make a promise to chill down. :P

The reason for my “aggressive” tone and behaviour in this matchup is due to the sheer fact that I started GW2 on Fissure of Woe back in January. I joined AKP and stood by that guild until the day I transfered to Ruins of Surmia (April 1st). We did some WvW, took some towers, wiped a lot and had fun. At the time that was the only WvW experience I had and I enjoyed it a lot.

When the free transfer week came at the end of March, we were facing Arborstone. I was seriously considering to move to another server (my choices were either Gunnar’s Hold or Ruins of Surmia) to join a WvW oriented guild since I really enjoyed this mode, but my guild wasn’t organized in it at all and was only active during nights which was a no go for me since I had/have a job. Not to mention we wiped most of the time to the green server because of lack of organization. I still had fun, though, which made it harder for me to decide. I talked to my guild about it and, well.. they told me the same as YuGiOh is posting here; that we’re having fun despite the wipes, yadda yadda.

I transfered just 4 hours before the end of the free transfer week and that was the best decision I have made in GW2. Of course I had to leave my guild behind, but I met a lot of new friendly and active people here and learned a lot about WvW and individual builds for my elementalist that I hadn’t known before. My GW2 gaming experience just spiked up, both in a 1v1 environment as well as ZvZ.

That’s why I got kittened over YuGiOh’s comments about Vabbi having “fun” despite the wipes. I was brainwashed as well on FoW, they were saying the exact same thing and I held the very same opinion about FoW as YuGiOh has about Vabbi. Since I was on both servers, I can only say that you guys are missing out on a LOT. The WvW you know on Vabbi/FoW is nowhere near as enjoyable as you could have on a server with more coverage, more coordination and organization, more tactics and more room for improvement. Since all borderlands are the same for all servers and since Arena Net apparently just doesn’t care about tier 9, I really don’t understand why you guys insist on staying on the server when you could be in a higher tiered one playing as a group and developing your potentials as gw2 players.

As for RoS, the server is home to a lot of active, friendly and organized guilds (GoA, DeX, PG, VcY, RiOT, ELDa, CoNe, the newly formed IM, and many others), there rarely is a queue on any of the borderlands, the community also has temple and other PvE events, communication via teamspeak, etc. Perhaps you don’t want to change, but think of many other players who randomly chose FoW/Vabbi just like me as a starting server and would like to improve on their WvW experience and cannot because of Anet’s severe lack of interest in this tier (I’m sorry guys, but after 9 months of manslaughter and nothing being done about it, that’s a fact). As Stikko and Keith (since you said RiOT’s GL was on your server) probably pointed out, RoS is open for you to transfer to and they will also help you with that. If you are not interested and would like to stay despite all I’ve said, that’s fine. Just don’t brainwash the ones who are.

I’m not even gonna bother replying to YuGiOh’s failed attempt at being sarcastic lol….

@ TyPin,

again, 3/4 of our server is taking a break this week. This means people are either doing WvW with their upscales or avoiding it completely. Or just kitten around, which is cool, at least the pressure is kinda gone atm. And I’m not complaining about being ganged on WvW, not at all. I managed to escape, came back, ressed my partner and took the camp with her. T’was good.

TyPin.9860:

@Suspicious Nija:
You speak rather respectless about the pit (by calling it pit). It is partly the doing of the guild(s) comming to RoS months ago, by recruiting dozens of players, even from vabbi and FoW, in the delusional vision to create an only WvW server (as stated in those reqruitment threads at the time).

The “pit”, as you call it, could have been ballanced out, if ppl would have spread equally between the server rather than jumping on the winning horse. That your server now complains about this matchup is no surprice. And you still advertice FoW and Vabbi players to come to you. What do you think this will result in, when this matchup apears again? Ppl are asking ANet to do smth about it, while ppl do not understand that they could have done smth about it themselfes already months ago and it apears ironic, that you ppl are more complaining about the matchup than those who get steamrolled the majority of the time.

I remember you [DEX] guys, and it was fun and challanging to fight you. There was one point, that we almost had a kind of ballance (still favoring RoS, but it was way way closer), just before the server jumpers overpopulated your server.

Having fought FoW again this day, I still haven’t changed my opinion of you. Individually there are certain players who put up a good fight, but in a group you are way too disorganized to make any difference whatsoever.

And no, taking towers closest to spawn and capping points with very little resistance is not an achievement to be proud of, really. Instead of waiting for Anet to do something about it (which will be never), maybe your top guilds should take charge of the WvW community and train people on the battlefield. This is why we are “stealing” members from your servers – people want to learn, they want to fight in an organized environment; something your server can’t deliver at the moment, apparently. That was also the reason why I left FoW months ago.

Oh, and a very special thanks to a charr warrior from [WvW] guild who, together with 5 of his buddies, despite my emote, killed my girlfriend’s mesmer (PG guild) and tried killing my upscaled mesmer at the north camp when we were just passing by. Basically we were only trying to get Spiritholme’s PoI and vista for her very first world completion and move on, but you practically motivated us to take the whole kittening camp instead. <3

Oh I’m not annoyed. I was frustrated at first when I saw the matchup, now I’m just considering which game(s) to play this week instead of gw2. May give F1 online a go.

Go ahead and have your fun killing doors then. As for RoS, I really hope we never ever get this matchup again.

TyPin.9860:

@Liquid Storm:
No idea waht u try to prove here. He says that they take SM with their weekly WvW event. And they did. Who cares for the circumstances as long as no hacking was involved. They seem to enjoy the game and WvW on their own terms. You can not impose your perfect WvW ideals on FoW or Vabbi. We will WvW to our terms.

They took SM because there was little to no resistance due to our server being too annoyed to participate in this matchup. All I said was if we had our regular force in WvW, they wouldn’t be able to pull that off. Fact.

They seem to enjoy it, great. We don’t. And no other server which is put against you does.

Rashmika Els.8215:

But didn’t RioT transfer to RoS to get away from the huge zergs and enjoy smaller scaled fights? Thought this match would have suited you perfectly

RiOT transferred because of the huge queues on every single BL, which was a consequence of the free transfer week some months ago. While on RoS we fought the huge zergs of Miller’s Sound, Fort Ranik, and even Gunnars Hold and Ring of Fire managed to bring in quite a lot of organized groups, something neither Vabbi nor FoW has at the moment. FoW has enough people to be able to hold their entire BL, but they lack organization. We’re practically picking you off one by one. With pugs.

YuGiOh.4906:

Vabbi doesn’t care who we get put against.

No, but the server who is punished to be in your tier does.

YuGiOh.4906:

We’re taking SM atleast 5 times a week in events. If we fail we’ll bring more.
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FoW and Vabbi have great potential, we play hard here against all odds.

I don’t know about other servers you faced, but the situation on RoS at the moment is that no one can be kittened to play in this matchup, except do world exploration and maybe cap a few camps. 3/4 of our force is missing and if we had the same amount of people in WvW as we did last week, your cute little omega and alpha golems wouldn’t even reach SM’s gate. Not to mention I’ve seen a lot of our people wiping you with their upscaled characters with ease.

I’m sorry for the rudeness, but that’s how things stand at the moment. RiOT is taking a break from WvW this week, most of us are bored out of our minds and just wish this week ends quickly so we can have proper fights again.

Royce Melborn.3276:

It’s not that we suck that hard Liquid, it just comes to that when we are extremely outnumbered. People obviously ragequit then too. Why wouldn’t they?

I was commenting purely on my last night’s experience fighting FoW. When you down a level 80 warrior with 3-5 skills on a D/D elementalist without any effort whatsoever, you know that warrior either doesn’t know how to play the class or is improperly geared. And that didn’t happen once, it happened throughout the matchup when I finally got bored and switched to my mesmer.

And you weren’t outnumbered yesterday at Woodhaven at a certain point when you caught us by surprise. We wiped there, came back, wiped you and after that I saw only a fraction of that huge zerg of yours. That’s what I meant by morale – as soon as you wipe once, many of your people disconnect. When I was still on FoW I thought this was because of Blue Perception being a *[insert random bad word here]*, but apparently the morale there is extremely low in general.

YuGiOh.4906:

I guess you guys dont have a home to call your own.

…you do realize this is a PC game, right?

Anyway, after today’s WvW on FoW borderland I’m very disappointed. I saw your scores from last week when you managed to hold 200+ points against BT for longer periods of time and kinda hoped you guys finally got your tactics sorted. I guess I was wrong.

3 months have passed since I transferred from FoW to RoS and you guys are still using the same inefficient tactics – cap Woodhaven and Dawn’s and try for Garrison, fail at it miserably, and when you lose both towers due to low defence and have nothing else but Spiritholme left to defend with a zerg coming your way, you place loads of ACs and ballistas in there to defend a camp worth 5 friggin points. Maybe kitten around in EB for a while until the enemy steamrolls you again and maybe even do a golem rush at 1 in the morning and hope for the best. It seems you have learned absolutely nothing in the last 3 months, you are still doing the same mistakes week in week out and THAT is why you are constantly getting stomped. Not to mention there are only a handful of players who are properly geared for WvW fighting, but that’s another story.

This is why you should either organise proper WvW events with more efficient tactics or move to another server to learn how the mode is played. The way I see it, you are stagnating on FoW, and for what? Because you think of it as “your home”? It’s a friggin game guys, wake up, all servers are the same, have the same areas and same ping. The only difference is that their WvW is much better organised than yours and people actually know how to fight. Having seen four of you run away from my level 14 mesmer today just made me /facepalm.

In the end it’s your call. You have been getting stomped on from the very release of GW2 and you know as well as I do that no organised guild will transfer to your server, nor will Anet do anything about the matter anytime soon, seeing how almost a year has passed and nothing has been done about it. Not to mention the morale is still very low there – you manage to bring 50+ people to your home border, you wipe once and 3/4 of your players ragequit. Lovely.

Where did all the people from FoW go? It was starting to get fun. :-(

Good good. I’m raiding on my lvl 14 mesmer, so be gentle guys pls. :-P