Guild Wars 2

Gab Superstar.4059:

Cactus.2710:

Swamurabi.7890:

imo, siege wars is boring.

I don’t get it. Why are you playing WvW when you fully know that the objective is to capture (i.e, “siege”) objectives and hold them while the enemy tries to capture (i.e., “siege”) them back?? You get points only for the objectives you hold, right? While killing players is eminently fun in the process of capturing objectives, you don’t get points for kills … only objectives. Beats me how you wouldn’t have figured that out yet, and that if you don’t like the siege component that you should probably be playing sPvP or tPvP instead.

WvW is supposed to be primarily a map strategy game, and that means deciding how best to siege and hold objectives. I like killing other players too, but there’s no map strategy to that at all.

Because believe it or not some people enjoy most of the combat system in this game, and also enjoy PvP’ing with it.

Unfortunately every type of PvP in GW2 seems to be oriented towards sitting in a circle.

Also didn’t they make real time strategy games for people who wanted that kinda stuff? I mean I started this game under the premise that Id be playing a Necromancer not spending a majority of my time either on a siege weapon or waiting on a siege weapon to do all the work. Also saying go to spvp is worthless, its a completely different type of pvp, in this case a much smaller scale. Prob the only thing guild wars 2 did right, was large scale battles, to which siege becoming overpowered takes away from.

Serophous.9085:

Caliban.3176:

Serophous.9085:

Caliban.3176:

Serophous.9085:

Caliban.3176:

I agree that defenders need an advantage. They already had though. Defending was a lot easier than attacking every was. So what was the point of this AC buff?

Make bigger zergs? Great success
Give defenders an even bigger advantage than they already had? Great success
Have 40 people stand next to 5 others who shoot trebs and arrowcarts? Great success
Have some great guilds leave this game? Great success
Push the outmanned server down even further? Great success

BEST PATCH EVAH!

VoTF still here, patch fail.

I said some great guilds, not all. Thanks though.

well, at least then matches wont get stale and realms will face different people for once

People leaving is good?

only the whiners. I hear ESO is good. I hope they dont have seige….

Aren’t you here whining about players whining?

FractalChaos.6539:

morrolan.9608:

FractalChaos.6539:

That’s it. Thanks to some minute changes, I can shrug off any number of arrow carts- even if they are grouped and assisting -long enough to heal through the damage. The absolute highest amount of damage I have ever taken from an AC post-patch is 1370 or thereabout.

So now we’re required to re-spec to counter ACs? If you can’t see the issue with that well I don’t know what to say.

Do you expect a single build to be good in every single situation, and to never ever have to change it? If you can’t see the issue with that well I don’t know what to say.

Do you expect every player to drop every type of rune/equip in favor of bunker gear just to deal with 1 type of siege? If you can’t see the issue with that well I don’t know what to say.

Caliban.3176:

Reborn.2934:

Aneu.1748:

Level 1 siege bunker removes 1% of the damage.

and level 5 reduces 5% . so ?

until now i and my mates near me never die from ac’s whatever ac force we faced . downed some , but rezzed inside combat .

He’s telling you how useless siege bunker is. 5% is nothing, it is not worth anything.

lets ignore the fact there is a siege mastery buff that makes siege do 5 percent more damage by itself and makes that buff completely void as well…

This is obligitory

Mif.3471:

Mortemp.6319:

Also if you had a clue about gear, you’d notice that I cannot have such low power and high condition damage without getting vit.

You’ve obviously never heard of rabid gear.

why, as a necromancer would I use full rabid when death shroud scales better with vit? btw the trinkets are rabid but again jumping the gun before thinking…

Mif.3471:

Mortemp.6319:

hmm guess I have no toughness and full zerker for 1900 a tick yo
btw it was cut off for some reason (maybe because I prefer to play in windowed mode but obviously its at least 1,400.)

So you have 10,219 health and 1,400 toughness, and it’s arrow carts that are to blame for your lack of survivability?

Why does it not surprise me to see a VoTF tag in guildy gold in your screenshot.

Necros cannot possibly have that little health lol. Obviously if you look at the time of the damage and the current time of the game (right next to the minimap) its the same time, I.E. I just got out of combat.
Also if you had a clue about gear, you’d notice that I cannot have such low power and high condition damage without getting vit.

hmm guess I have no toughness and full zerker for 1900 a tick yo
btw it was cut off for some reason (maybe because I prefer to play in windowed mode but obviously its at least 1,400.)

Svarty.8019:

Aneu.1748:

WvW is meant to be about players fighting players

That is opinion, not fact.

WvW is also not even sides, and the siege weapons could help to resolve that problem. I think Arenanet should try to address the zergy problem first and this arrow cart fix seems like the start of that, with zerglings whining in their thousands in this very thread. Lulz at them.

If you think wvw isn’t about player versus player…. I dont even know how to begin to understand what you think it is about. My head aches just thinking about how someone could even think something like that….

So its official folks. According to the Dev, you cannot be standing in any of these areas

LilMcGinley.3890:

Jackie.1829:

Since people wanted me to substantiate with facts:

http://i.imgur.com/x9ePvIA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0JwuOGW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LEP00kz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/n9v1P3m.jpg

I certainly know there are many more spots, but that is besides the point. Enjoy using only trebuchets to break into outer and inner of anything. If your lucky the defenders are too stupid to know where to build arrow carts, but I dont rely on the stupidity of my enemy for a win.

PRESS 1 to WIN!! Sick screenshots Jackie

Major props for VoTF for pressing this hard on a serious issue in WvW. I don’t see how this will end well for the more organized guilds as ourselves. We want to fight people ANet, not walls or doors or siege.. BUT ACTUAL PEOPLE.

didn’t you hear? Beating on doors/walls is what actual large scale pvp is about. Not this silly killing of other players… what did you think it was supposed to be a fun game?

Jski.6180:

Aneu.1748:

Jski.6180:

You should

No.

So its good for your guild then hmmm well at least you think so. Your a very odd leader.

Any way this is all still a knee jerk reaction of some of the player base we still have a lot of ppl who still play WvW and will keep playing WvW for some time. These players can and will adapted as needed to fix the new Arrowcart buff IF and only IF the person whom on the cart has level 15+ in wvw and went all in to arrowcart line.

Its not really a knee jerk reaction when we know how 5 arrow carts could effect things pre-patch, and Jackie has all the trait points already in arrow cart mastery for us to see the effects, as shown by his screen shots.

Lance.5892:

Jackie.1829:

Mif.3471:

Jackie.1829:

As my posts are within the terms of agreement, and those of other votf members such as lance and caliban,

Then on the other hand, there are the VoTF members that had a tantrum and vandalized this sub-forum with spam threads earlier today.

Stay classy VoTF

I endorse what they did as well. In fact, I was on comms laughing with them while they did it. We will do what we want with the forums until a developer responds. I am sorry I adversely effected your web browsing for the night. Except I couldnt care less.

I’ll be honest. I thought it was hillarious as well.

best hour of the night imo

Dovgan.8605:

Aneu.1748:

Dovgan.8605:

Aneu.1748:

Dovgan.8605:

So wait, with siege actually having some kind of meaning, it forces huge groups to break apart, hit in multiple locations, and look for tactical ways to take a fortified structure? Well now, that’s just silly. Why can’t we just get groups of 70 people to beat a door down with limited repercussions? Sorry, I don’t mind the arrow cart changes, as a matter of fact I think all siege should have this kind of impact. Forcing players to think outside the box and adapt is what a great game does. So will players need to intelligently prepare a siege strategy now, sure, but it beats the heck out of a mindless zerg ball bashing 1 to capture a point. The good commanders will adapt to the change and come up with the techniques that work, the zerg commanders will fail now, and fail hard.

How does it make a zerg split up? When it takes LESS people to defend than it does to attack how do you really think smaller groups will be able to cap anything? I mean really…

Send 100 people to one door or send 25 to 4 different breakable locations. Or split forces to hit several different locations. Set a diversion up with 25 while the rest hit another keep. Use tactical approaches and break out of the zerg mindset.

If 5-10 people can hold off 100 and 2 can hold off 25 then how exactly does this resolve anything? Surely if 100 people are attacking a keep that has 5-10 people inside it then it should fall! Defence should be done by PEOPLE not siege! Siege should supplement it, not be the defining factor!

The greatest defenses in history were very few holding off very many because they had a defensible location. If you as an army rush in without a plan against a group in a strongly defensible location and die, who is at fault?

What part do you not understand this is a video game and not real life? Aren’t we supposed to have fun? How is 5 people blocking your entire raid with little to no effort fun for anyone other then those 5? Its mind boggling that anyone could enjoy hiting a siege button endlessly with no danger to themselves. Sheesh go play a single player with god mode on if you want that nonsense.

btw how are you supposed to take said tower when arrow carts will just nuke you going through the choke? Whats to stop the enemy zerg just destroying you, while you were spread out dodging arrow cart damage? Do you people assume your opponent is just sitting on the arrow carts behind the walls foaming at the mouth? You were already at a disadvantage when 30 people can run in and our of a portal healing back to full and rebuffing while your trying res people, then splashing back out trashing everyone spread out again. With these arrow cart upgrades, they will be able to do that while your stuck at < 50 percent hp. Jeeze people are clueless

With that said I leave this