Guild Wars 2

Farexit&Brexit, coincidence? I don’t think so.

Hi there,

it’s 2 years and half that I didn’t play GW2. I’m playing since two weeks.
There are 138 players in queue spread around. I didn’t see this since I was on Tier 1 and I’m playing on a server ranked 14th.

Please, before end the beta keep in mind that the contribution of new players, should be WISE as I wanna play, that’s why I’m on a middle server.

Deniara Devious.3948:

DevonCarver.5370:

I’d say there is a pretty strong sentiment against the idea of collapsing all of WvW into 3 colors, rather than the current world set up. Which I agree with. I think world pride and association is an important part of the way that WvW works currently.

Here’s a possible version of shorter matchups that wouldn’t necessarily sacrifice the long term fight of a WvW matchup currently and wouldn’t involve merging everyone into one of three teams.

Matches last 8 hours, there are 21 matches in a week with the same 3 worlds, the winner of the week is the world that wins the most matches over the course of that time.

This solves some of the problems we see currently, namely the issues that can arise as matches get out of hand towards the end of the week.

Merging all servers to colors might function sort of okay in NA, but here in EU it won’t work well, because we have so many different languages. I am glad that Arenanet developers understand that server pride (but also guild pride) are important aspects of this game.

Many different languages? 3…english, german and spanish and we are all EU citizens, this means that at least if you are not a +50y at bit of english to communicate with the other europeans should be in your skills…
Then seriously, all the wvw guilds have their ts channels, map chat is always been full of a lot of anything are communication like “guild xxx call the raid, gn8” no degree is needed.
Guild pride is something not involved, as has been said that in case Arenanet should implement the warband guild and avoid the split of the members, so the guild parties join the same map.

clint.5681:

The wvw team would pick the three servers to put together, not a system. I was talking about either a permanent alliance or a (more realistically since servers and populations changed) a semi permanent (say like 6 months) alliance.

There would be A vs A battles, not three different alliances (that seems like way too many people for the servers and size of maps we have).

I dont know much about EU wvw (Imin NA) but you would probably want to merge a high + medium + low tier.

But in NA you could probably get away with 2 low tier and one t1/t2 since the population on t1 is out of kittening control these days.

Mate, call me i***t but still I miss how it should guarantee a good balance such the splitting system in red, green and blue team.
Even if you put together the servers in that way, as you go down in the server rankings the number of players per WvW decreases making it more difficult the combination.
How you would make the combinations? How you would determinate which is the highest medium WvW populate server and which is the highest or the lowest WvW populate server?
Going ahead in the combinations you would finish to have unbalanced alliances, ’cause not all the T1 servers have the same WvW population, moreover 6 months I think is a too long time and other games have showed that 1 faction VS 1 faction is not a big deal.
Talking about permanent and semi permanent alliances, if I learned something playing WvW with other guilds, is that due the lack of tease contents in WvW, the WvW player is costantly looking for something new, especially if he can face new guilds. With this system he would not be able anymore to face for 6 months the guilds of two servers.

insanemaniac.2456:

Niadon.9270:

clint.5681:

Couldnt you combine 3 servers each into like a “super server” (alliance) that would help solve population problems if you combined them smartly (No combining all T1 into one server).

Say ET + DB+ JQ AR+YB+TC

This can sound interesting, tell me if I got it.

Instead have:

1 – Seafarer’s Rest VS Elona Reach VS Vizunah Square
2 – Jade Sea VS Baruch Bay VS Kodash
3 – Riverside VS Aurora Glade VS Piken Square

For example automatically at the end of the week or by a still not clear vote of the servers is created an alliance between three servers. This alliance provide a pool of a larger number of players to have something like:

Square of Vizunah Reach VS Kodash Bay of Jade VS Riverglade Square

I think this will not solve the balance problem, what happen if the alliance Riverglade Square has less players in WvW than the others two alliances?

no, he was pairing specifically different tier servers. so you dont have t1 vs t2 vs t3, which would obviously result in t1 blowing out the match cuz of the coverage aspect of population imbalance.

But even if you pairing different tier servers, how the system can calculate a balance number, is just like now but on large scale.
If you put together Seafare, Augury and Vabbi against Vizuna, Gunnars, Whiteside how you can determinate a balance number better than an evaluation in real time?

clint.5681:

Couldnt you combine 3 servers each into like a “super server” (alliance) that would help solve population problems if you combined them smartly (No combining all T1 into one server).

Say ET + DB+ JQ AR+YB+TC

This can sound interesting, tell me if I got it.

Instead have:

1 – Seafarer’s Rest VS Elona Reach VS Vizunah Square
2 – Jade Sea VS Baruch Bay VS Kodash
3 – Riverside VS Aurora Glade VS Piken Square

For example automatically at the end of the week or by a still not clear vote of the servers is created an alliance between three servers. This alliance provide a pool of a larger number of players to have something like:

Square of Vizunah Reach VS Kodash Bay of Jade VS Riverglade Square

I think this will not solve the balance problem, what happen if the alliance Riverglade Square has less players in WvW than the others two alliances?

Deli.1302:

Chris.3290:

The desire for shorter matches, comes from the problem that once a dominant server has momentum out of the weekend; you rarely see a reversal.

So the answer isn’t necessarily to shorten the week, but to change the momentum.

Proposal: “Against All Odds!” a buff that increases in intensity as the score gap increases

Functionality: At 25,000, 50,000, 75,000, and 100,000 points behind the matchup leader; a server gets a progressive buff that will slow down the leading server.
+3%/6%/9%/12% to siege power and structure HP (for the server(s) behind in score).

Consequences: This gives the server(s) that are behind a lot of incentive to keep pushing, knowing that their structures will be more defensible while giving them greater ability to capture enemy structures. This will cause winning servers to see the consequences of running up the score; and will actually make the upcoming Tournament A LOT more interesting.

I like this idea.

I don’t like it. It doesn’t sound as a solution, but like more a temporary solution waiting for something better.

We already experimented the buff on on health and has been dropped.
+25.000 does not mean necessary that the server doesn’t has numbers, potentially means that the wvw guilds on the other server are not so good, so why give them a buff?

Many time we lost the match even for 70.000 points, but we was satisfied ’cause the numbers on the battlefield was good and the fight as well, we would not have been happy to fight with extra buffs.

Moreover on the highest positions, there are still server that worked hard to get a night coverage, this system mess up their effort and the effort of the night guilds.
If a server is +100.000 even we that buff, will not be able to do so much, probably means that they don’t have numbers, they will be unable to defend all the objects and I don’t think that buffs of such kind are enough to stop a blob of 70 players hitting a tower with inside 30 players.

Have a match up of 8h how can solve the blob train and the desert field? (without take in consideration the upgrade of the structures)
When I played in a higher population server, in the evening I’ve waited even 1h in queue and during the rematch was impossible get inside.

By the way, even with 8h, if a server with a high WvW population meet a server with a low WvW population like now, what will happen? that the blob train will last 8h before restart again?
What will do the WvW guilds of the high populated server? will face a desert field for 8h instead for a week? that in one of the 21 matches maybe the will have a balance match? -_-"

I thought the problem was the balance, I can’t see how a short matchup can solve it.

There are just 3 pages of comments written by: hardcore WvW players, semihardcore WvW players and casual WvW players against hundred and hundred of players out there.
We talking about identity of the server, how we can be sure that is what everyone think? We are neither the 10%

Since the end of this game I moved from Surmia, Vabbi, Blacktide, Surmia, Piken, FSP and played in three differents WvW guilds and this sadly will continue all the time we will have unbalanced matches, that means especially desert server, so has did my previous guilds so has did a lot of other WvW guilds.

I’m sorry but until now I don’t read anything that solve the desert server and blob server, except the server split in red, blue and green when you join the WvW, at least in this way we will have equal numbers, as much as possible.

Proposal Overview:

This is WVW not another parking area for PvE players that need WvW for their personal fun while they have a break from PvE.
Moreover most of the comments here are focussing on the PvE already present in the WvW are from USA players. Probably as a EU player I have a different view of what is a WvW that for sure, is not a place for PvE and for powerkiller NPCs.

Goal of Proposal:

Since the release we (at least in EU dunno there) asked to reduce or even remove all the PvE from the WvW and here we have WvW players (seriously?) who are asking to improve the PvE?!?
I follow the few WvW players in this thread with a copy/paste.

Proposal Functionality

1.No need scaling creatures, new and more difficult NPCs and unique bosses at each objective. Really? NPCs in towers and keeps are just an excuse to capture the attention of the enemy… who never care about the NPCs in WvW O_o I don’t know how many times we attacked a tower or a keep ’cause there was no enemies on the map, it was just waste time to say: “hello enemies, we are here, can you come out from the spawn?”

2. Increased emphasis on verticality
Please no. This was one of the big design mistakes of the EotM map and Skyhammer, which is the least favorite spvp map.

3. A much shorter match time maybe, ’cause the unbalance match are really boring when from the other side there are no enemies.

4. Destructible terrain funny, but probably one of the last things we need inWvW

5. More balanced match ups and more fair scoring
Some matches are very imbalanced, making them boring for both parties and really desperate to those who have just few players on a map vs enemy zergs which spawn camp them outside their spawn point. Rewards are based on who manages to tag the most amount of opponents who die by the karma train. If only one the killers would get a reward (decided randomly) this would make karma train much less feasible. Of course the individual loot bag rewards should be adjusted upwards accordingly.

6. A WvW armor that you obtain without PvE I don’t wanna feel me forced to farm PvE or to improve the skill crafting of my character to get an asc weapon/gear. I’m a WvW player, all the time I’m stucked in an area out of WvW I feel I’m wasting my time and my willing to play the game is zero.

7. Balancing WXP abilities or introduce something new as demostration about how much interesting is for a WvW player interact with the enviroment, most of us has spent their WXP in the same abilities:
-Guard Killer
-Defense Against Guards

Do you really think because of the guards? no, because this abilities at the last stage give us an increment on the stats… who cares of the damage guards -_-
Then, someone has spent points for the ram, or has preferred keep the wxp waiting for something better. WvW players don’t care about PvE in WvW npc, mosquitos, centauros etc they are good just out of the spawn to stack sigils and no more.

8. Resetting WvW skill points Maybe give this chance at the end of a match or at the end of a season. There are still players that since this feature pop up in game, didn’t have an idea how spend their points and now are spent in useless abilities.

9. A warband structure This is one of that things asked during the beta and still in the far world of “maybe, dunno, perhaps”. When we raid with our guild, we raid in more than 5 players, I wanna see all the members of the team not just my 4 team mates, we are playing together even when we are 20.

10. Icon guild commander After introduced the warband team, you could introduce a double function for the icon commander such:
- Visible to all players
- Visibile just to all guild mates

So finally, when the warband leader switch on “visibile just to all guild mates” we can use the target icon properly, instead like a second blue icon for guildies.

Stop to use music illegally in the background of youtube videos, here in Germany everyone is censured -_-"

1. Balanced Matches
2. Different maps for different leagues
3. Rewards such armors and weapons like ascendant or legendary without doing PvE, because players that don’t play PvE but just WvW, can not have.
4. A warning that advise how many people there are in queue in each border, so again, people that don’t play PvE can queue directly where they have to wait less time.
5. There are tons and tons of PvE games and few decent WvW, just give to WvW the same attention given for the PvE area.

If is not a problem for the most of the users, I do not see why turn it in a problem, as if the forum didn’t need other things first, like a decent dedicated to the recruitment of the guilds.

There are over 50 worlds, hundreds of guilds and a section that contains the listings of all of them … but come on… a user waste hours trying to find a guild of his server when he is not busy cross his fingers hoping that someone advertises a guild in the map chat … come on… even those of Warhammer had gone beyond creating the recruit section directly into the game menu… -_-

Now I gonna call my grandma and I show her with such skimpy and lascivious clothes arenanet dress the characters woman of this game (excluding asura:D)

VOLKON.1290:

Azunai.1065:

VOLKON.1290:

Because ANet is in the office right now and best able to respond if there are any issues.

8 am Anets time -> 3PM EU time (which would be a good time to release the patch, which could be prepared the day before)

OK… let’s slow down and think about that a bit. 8AM for a corporation.

Lol I worked for a corporation with 55 agencies around the world, we started at 8 AM just the managers started at 9 AM.

And btw he is right, they have 8 hours to upload the patch and they can do it while is not prime time in EU nor in US.

Vena.8436:

MightyMicah.7451:

You are not allowed to waypoint unless you are dead? What would be the issues, if any? What would be the positive aspects, if any? Thoughts?

(Bear in mind I have not stated anything about this idea. I have simply posed the question. Please don’t eat me…)

People would just kill themselves on cliffs to do the same thing? Cliffs are abundant, remorseless, and always watching and waiting.

Have u seen? People always find a way to s…. you

At this point place a NPC Goblin close to the cliff, if people want to jump down, they shall pay in tokens the Goblin:D

Wemil.7052:

4 hours? does it take 4 hours to upload such small patch? cmon lol

There are logistical reasons mate, first of all they have uploaded the patch during the lunch hour and then:

- They took a break to go eat
- After lunch they took the cigarette break
- After the cigarette break they brought out the office mascot, a little constipated Yorkshire
- During the tour with the Yorkshire they have crossed those of Blizzard, with which they started arguing about which was the best PvE
- Then there were those of Mythic that showed them what it means “PvP” and they sent them all to the hospital.

In the mainwhile we r waiting

outside the WVW not available due the patch, it’s really annoying that the WvW it’s always be considered in second place after the PvE.

There are dozens of PvE games -_- and every time more than 70% of the patch is dedicated to the PvE area, while are months that WvW is really boring due a non-existent endgame and a poor renewal.

No, I’m just saying that I lost 100 points in toughness/armor after a fallen and I don’t get back them, even with 100% of health, I have to switch weapons to get back them.

For example if with a warhammer I’ve 2500 toughness, after a falling damage I get 2400 points, then I get back all my life points, but still I’ve 2400 points in toughness instead 2500.

So I switch on sword that I dunno, it gives me 2350 toughness, the stats panel show me the properly change in toughness stats, then I switch to warhammer and finally I get back my toughness for a total of 2500 points.

Few minutes ago I noticed the same during a fight with a mob, but I have not figured out exactly under what circumstances of the fight it occurred, I just know that at the end of the fight had the same problem, 100 points less for no reason

But perhaps the source of this bug could be inside “thick skin”

Just noticed that this happen also during a fight switching from a weapon to another, tested with an mob 80lvl

I don’t know if is intentional, but since there is no buff I have to assume it’s not intentional.

On the fall damage, there’s a loss of 100 points in toughness and 100 in armor, permanently, and there’s no connection about weapons or foods used.

The only way to restore the real score is switch to the other weapons, for example in my case from hammer to sword/horn or from sword/horn to hammer.

I have verified this in:

Frostgorge Sound close to the slope near the equipment repair
Lions Arch
Eternal Battleground
Home BL in Garrison

In the following maps instead:

Gendarran fields 25-35
Cursed Shore 75-80

Nothing happen, or better, following the fall damage toughness points are subtracted together with life points, but then restored, which does not happen in other areas.

I use only the warrior and unfortunately my guild mate says he doesn’t has a permanent loss of toughness/armor points.

If other warriors could verify by opening the panel statistics and checking the toughness and armor before and after the damage to see if the points are restored.

Jue.6493:

[…]we were the only guild raid on the map tonight[…]

you were the only guild on the map tonight untill 10-10:30pm CET

it gives +80 on toughness if I remember well

WhiteAxolotl.7562:

“Empower allies” works for me, the description on the active buff bar still say +70 rather than the applied +150 power. Also, if the trait is used by you, the buff doesnt show up on your active buff bar, but it does apply the +150 power.

Thank you mate! I’ll try to pay attention on the active buff bar ‘cause I didn’t see it

ObscureTalent.2197:

With all of that said, i still see no complaints in my post or anything other

Hehe wait Sunday when I’ve left you on the battlefield with broken nails, lipstick unmade and disheveled hair:D

Welcome back! and try don’t get hurt yourself :P

I played a regeneration build similar to this one for months. When you play with your team and match is balanced (u r not fighting against a blob) is not necessary use the healing signet, toughness/armor help you with the direct damage and the rigeneration ticks equalize the DoT damage.
It worked pretty well, but to play it you really need to change your use of fight, at least it was like that for me.

Is working the traits “Last Stand” and “Empower Allies”? For the first one I don’t see it activated anymore, or by the way not properly.
I never used the second one, now I’m experiencing it with the character panel open, but I don’t see +150 points nor an icon on me or my allies.

Anyone can disprove?
ty:)

Can we have a guild section for each server?

Maybe one dedicated to the guild recruitments, and one dedicated to the players looking for a guild.

The current section is…… you know what it is

WIC will pay transfer at all the italian speaker players interested to join them

RoS is still looking for WvWvW guilds.

WIC will pay transfer at italian players interested to join them

sniff sniff don’t make me cry bad boy

Hey guys, what is happening? you are losing too much points, if you will continue on this way, Underworld could escape from our jaws.

It’s payback time for Underworld, all Surmians are screaming that name. Let’em us:D

And you Underworld, stop to fight!! we also asked you to join RoF forces to have a balanced fight against us according the troll rumours on this forum about our numbers, so don’t be silly stay there and wait for us!

We foaming at the mouth

:°( sigh… voo

up for the last free transfer chance!

Here u have a large group of guilds

27 Servers and the only that can be called Server WvWvW due the medium tag, may the gods of Tyria continue to preserve it from the PvE hordes.

stability is bugged, or maybe works as intent. Check the wiki

Krosan.2890:

You have enough numbers and zergs to completely dominated the next few tiers and make WvW a wasteland in all of them yet you still want more people?
I honestly think that after you have been in unbalanced matchups for 2 months you will be getting stomped by any server who can match your numbers as half of your guys will probably not know what to do if there are suddenly enemies fighting them back, you want a pure WvW serverd yet the only thing you will attract with all these recruiting topics and that Deus guy or w/e boasting about his server all the time is Pve’rs that want crafting bonus and map completion. Pure WvW guilds don’t want to wait two months for a matchup that is slightly balanced. I honestly can’t see how a decidacted WvW alliance would even want to have no action what so ever in over two months. Just seems you’d rather want the easy wins.

yam yam, it’s always incredible how many players speak just for sport. You can give your opinion, but you shouldn’t say what we are, is a judgment and personally I do not like to be judged by the first one, especially when I don’t know which server he comes which guild and its primary target.

We know what we have, you no.
We know where we come and what we have passed. You no, also if you could.
We know our guys, you no. So stop to say how they are.
What you think is your, but pls share it with a minimum of knowledge of the circumstances.
What a WvWvW player is play on a server like Seafarer Rest, where the amount of population is unbalanced for WvWvW players, may the gods of Tyria protect the guys from PvE hordes.
Unfortunately there are too much WvWvW players for all of us, there’s no match to join a tier 1 server and fighting almost always against the same servers, in the equal measure that join a tier 9, but as I said, we know what we have, you no:D and it’s funny because you will continue to share your baseless judgments.

But I have to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, you can’t see how a dedicated WvW alliance would even want to have no action what so ever in over two months. It’s right, you can’t see because you are out of all your discussion:D

There’s a beautiful world out there, enjoy the WvWvW.

I love you too <3 :*

Thank you dude:D

Well basically was too difficult make 3-4 servers tagged wvwvw like in other games. We would have had a zerg server or a 10vs10 fight for who like one or other and gj for all.

Neandramathal.9536:

So not content with utterly dominating T9 (Gratz btw!) already, you are wishing to draw even more guilds in. Creating an alliance clearly intended with the purpose of reaching T1…. from T9.

Not at all. As we have said in 3 different threads, as I said on GH mumble, as I said in a lot of posts, so many that I hope this is the last one,we don’t care nothing about tier 1, nothing.
What interest us is build a WvWvW community to prevent what is happened us on Blacktide, in other terms a server with more pve players than wvwvw players.

Due the free transfers closure on 28.01.13, a lot of players and guilds are wondering which server to move and, of course, if move. Well, if you are a WvWvW player or you have a WvWvW focused guild, we are talking to you!
- Do you play in a low-level server that doesn’t has enough WvWvW players to get the next tier?
- Do you play on a server that could eventually be closed and merged with another server?
- Do you play on the server that doesn’t have, or give, what you expected from WvWvW?
- Do you spend hours desperately looking for new players to help your WvWvW guild and find that there just isn’t enough players to compete in WvWvW.
- Are bored with the game, are looking for a new challenge under the creation of a united and stable WvWvW community.
- If you can’t not get the co-operation you would like with the other guilds on your server.
- Are you tired of a server full of PvE players and guilds and borderlands are chronically under populated against your enemies? we know what you mean! If you have answered any of those questions “Yes” then we have a great news for you!
You don’t need to move on a NA server or die your server, everything you need for war is here on ‘Ruins of Surmia’ and you have the opportunity to be part of it now, from the roots, from its rebirth and collaborate in the creation of this great WvWvW focused community.
Why should I move to a server that is located in tier 9?
- If you are a WvWvW focused played, you will understand the scale of this challenge, the project is to build a WvWvW focused community, being around like-minded players will give you the urge to play WvWvW with your comrades, instead of spending countless hours seeking help from PvE focused players, playing at unreasonable hours to try and ninja those unguarded keeps and towers.
- You have the opportunity to help create history, you can be part of history! Don’t sit on the sidelines and let everyone else take the glory and satisfaction!
- Because 80% of BRA guilds was part of the alliance that brought Blacktide from 12th position to 1st and won four times consecutively the rematches and without cover time from 01:00 am to 04:00 am. We know what we do, do it with us.
- Because the Original Ones have never gave up across this months. They are natural born warriors.
- With our presence and the collaboration of the native guilds, Surmia will get tier 8 next week. We know how much painful is fight against doors and ghost enemies, but will be for a short time, the sacrifice can bring us far away.
- Because it’s still a virgin server and can be shaped by the experience gained in server densely populated and war scenarios particularly active.
- In order to not make the same mistakes, to do better and provide a small paradise of war to those like us, focuses mainly on WvWvW.
Who we are?
We are the original Project Blacktide Alliance, that moved to Surmia around 2 weeks ago and now been reborn under the name of ‘Bloody Retribution’. During this transfer we left the majority of Blacktide PvE players and brought with us just the most WvWvW focused guildies. Here on Surmia we met the Original Ones, and now under the Surmia War Government we fight.
What are the BRA guilds?
[BC] Bananas and Cookies
[BT] Black Templars <—- they r ugly, bad and strongly hostile to pve players
[EA] Elite
[HP] Health Potion
[PG] Pirate Gaming
[RN] Guild Redemption
[TH] Thian
[TSL] The Saint Legend
[XT] Xeno Tavern
[WIC] War Inc. HD Recruiting Video <—- they r ugly, bad and strongly hostile to pve players
What are the Original Ones guilds?
[GoA] Guardians Of Arcane
[INC] Inconclusive
[DEX] Deus Ex Machina
[FA] Flamma Algor
[OwA] Theonewingedangel
[DiM] Dimentia Reflux
[CVR] Convento De Viva La Revolotion
[MR] Mint Rubbing
[SP] Surmian Pride
What we offer:
1. We offer what Guildwars 2 has not been able to do, a WvWvW focused server.
2. The minimum number of PvE focused players that servers currently offer in Europe.
3. A lot of WvWvW guilds around Europe, hardcore and semi hardcore with a past that goes through the best games of PvP competition.
4. Combat experience, team spirit, square balls and a huge amount of experience about WvWvW mechanics.
5. Internal communication system to co-ordinate our players.
6. Co-operation, a friendly environment and guilds that know how to make and win war!
Contacts:
Referent for Polish:
Mawgan.1689
Referent for Italian:
Niadon.9270
Referent for British/American:
Danneh.8520
Referent for French:
Lyrielle.8047
Referent for Dutch:
Arathor.7419
Original Ones contacts:
Referent for Germans:
Nojas.8209
Referent for Originals:
Ilesyt.7084
Sajuuk.6420

The WvWvW project of War Inc. continues on Ruins of Surmia.

HD Recruiting Video

After spending three months on Blacktide we move to a new challenge with our alliance. Building a WvWvW community united and stable in our new home, Surmia.

Warinc guild [WIC] it’s a semi-hardcore guild member of the Bloody Retribution Alliance. We strongly believes that the WvWvW represents the most fun and rewarding shape of playing on GW2.

Our primary goal is not climb the charts, but build a concrete community of WvWvW guilds and players who have a chance to take a common goal.

Our recruits are open to all WvWvW players who want to start something new in a collaborative and serene community.
We are always looking for talented people, who can share their experience with those who may need some extra help.
Vice versa, we are always available to help all the new members at the beginning.

We are looking for:

- WvWvW mature players able to speak Italian (if you don’t speak italian, but just english, you could try anyway and let’s see what happen )
- Semi-hardcore and hardcore players
- Players whose primary focus is the WvWvW

Our rules:

- Use the build suggested, usually two or three.
- Do not insult your fellows
- Use Team speak always
- Register and attend the forum
- 2 wvwvw days mandatory
- Play to win, even if you’re losing
- Play with your team
- Everyone can teach you something
-The GM is not a parent and have the last word

What we offer:

- Fights with organized and experts players
- Hardcore warband leader
- A group of friends
- An alliance of WvWvW guilds that will offer you the paradise of war you are looking for
- Team speak
- Beer, women and steaks during our gatherings

We are waiting for you on the battlefield.

Contact:

poli.1248
rikthor.8093
rhakar.5307
andead.8567

drkn.3429:

Afaik, Xaoc hasn’t ‘fully’ joined yet. I personally have seen about seven Xaoc players so far.

I know i kinda overreacted to their swap onto Vabbi – it really seemed as they went there just to seek easy ‘glory’ of low tiers, and it really seemed it would upset some kind of balance. Turned out they didn’t manage to wreak any havoc as it had seemed as they’re not the ‘old Xaoc’ anymore. The case with GH isn’t also any kind of ‘flooding’ or ‘surprise transfer’ with any ambitions of ‘becoming the new WvW server’ or ‘blocking the transfers for PvE guilds’ (hello, new folks on RoS).
Quite the opposite – folks from Xaoc approached GH in a mature, well-mannered conversations over our mumble, were very understanding and open; tbh it was a pleasant thing, but still quite a big surprise to everyone. Their new attitude really bodes well for future cooperation, but only time will tell us everything.

I think I should come back on your mumble, cause your double face and your constant trolling are mysthic.

Iridiana.9078:

Niadon.9270:

It’s old story.

If you are a WvW player primary focused on that, if you wish, you can join one of the guilds of our alliance, the same that was there on BT.

Good luck on Ruins of Surmia to you and your ally, but don’t try to persuade other players to move, thank you.

I said IF you WISH, I did not sing the wonders of the alliance, the rivers of free beer, and the vodka of the highest quality. Is not persuasion.

Iridiana.9078:

The rest of the italian alliance, which was on Blacktide since the FIRST day of release (not joining later, like your guild, just because it was a glorious moment for the server) is gonna stay on Blacktide cause we are loyal to our server even if it’s a difficult moment..

My guild joined Blacktide 9 days after the realease, such a bad guys we are. All this this loyalty could be shown before, when even the guilds present there before us, asked for help, but was turned down. Where was your first day loyalty there, in no place, just here when the games are over.

Genotix.6804:

Well i do feel sorry for the people that played at Blacktide since the beginning.
I know how it feels since my server(Gunnars Hold) had many guilds leaving those months.
I do believe though that your major guilds brought this on themselves.
You were full of guilds that had no connection for you server..

Lol, not true. The bandwagon has come at the end of the last rematch in tier 2, when was obvious our switch in tier 1, most of them moved away in few days when they understood that tier 1 was not the paradise that untill then stories saids.
More then 50% of the guilds on BT that brough up it, was from BT, so…

Genotix.6804:

They simply jumped to greener fields and so the “project Blacktide” failed hard.

Lol, not true again. Project Blacktide, the alliance that was there, started around 10 days after the realease of the game, on Blacktide, when it was still a server in the middle of the ladder, 12th if I remember well and since that time wvw guilds worked to brough up it. The fail it’s been from pve players and pve guilds. When the situation started to be critic due a lack of turnover wvw players, no one of them help us. You know, people inside that alliance had a real life, we could not fight anymore all that hours just to be zerged or just to keep up the server for people who didn’t care about the faith of it, and about all the work behind it.
So we moved.

Winning or loosing doesn’t mean a thing if you are not having fun.
I wish the decent remaining people of Blacktide, good luck.[/quote]

killimandros.5087:

I feel sorry for you guys, I really do. Its the situation which occurs when the easymoders move on, unfortunately

easymoders? LOL you don’t know nothing, we was there in WvW, not you.

It’s old story.

If you are a WvW player primary focused on that, if you wish, you can join one of the guilds of our alliance, the same that was there on BT.

-_- WvW guilds transfer for different reasons, but until the majority of people who face the topic are players pve or WVW casual, there won’t possibility of an objective discourse, regardless of whether a WVW semiharcore or hardcore player, whatever he says, is always wrong.
Never thought that the exploit is do it by the bandwagoning of PvE guilds that using a server driven up by guilds WvW, they move up untill flood the server? And is worst, because as non-pve player, u don’t enter in the pve area, so you don’t have the real perception about how many guilds are came, untill is too late.
Sometime people shoud try to see also from the other side, but is always inconvenient do it for own purposes.

No PvE in WvW? maybe the whole PvE maps of one server turned in WvWvW areas like a World Wide War? anyone called me?:D

MikeFerguson.8921:

DonRobeez.3560:

- How many players can one map contain?

As many as we can fit without causing too much stress on the servers. We can’t be more specific than that, but I can assure everyone that the cap is definitely split equally between all three worlds.

We have heard multiple reports for months about people being queued for a map and entering it only to have the outmanned buff, but unfortunately we’ve never been able to verify ways that could be occurring. I’m not saying it isn’t happening, but we haven’t ever been able to reproduce the problem, and if we can’t reproduce the core problem, it makes it basically impossible for us to find and fix the bug

No really, there was all the entire Blacktide Alliance that has leterally flood GW2 Support to get an official answer about this with tons of e-mails, complaints and so on and finally we get an official answer lost in middle of posts? LoL
Ok I’ll copy paste it, there are something about +250 players that was waiting for this, someone should also tell it to customer support.
By the way me and all this person, we can confirm you not only the buff the fact that for real we was outmanned.

And you should also reflect on the fact that the map cap is not equal divided between the factions, who first arrive in WvW, first take slots.