Guild Wars 2

Thz.7569:

Lots of guilds host public bounties. I know Commendation (GC) over on Tarnished Coast do multiple a week for NA players and always post a thread on reddit before hand. Try to look around so you can get them done while still trying to progress with your own guild

But to get the commendations you have to be a member of the guild doing the bounty, if you are not a member of the guild you only get the standard event rewards.

(paste from wiki)
Member rewards

Members of a guild that successfully kill one at least one target receive the following rewards.

2 pieces of rare or better equipment
50s
2 Guild Commendations
There is also a chance to receive an Ascended accessory.

Participants who complete the dynamic events but aren’t members of the guild will receive standard event rewards.

You wouldn’t think it would be too hard to pop in here and say

1. You will never be able to infuse these.
2. You will be able to infuse them in a future update.

Even if we can’t ever infuse them I would just be happy to have an answer!!!!
Even if we can’t infuse them for another 6 months I JUST WANT TO KNOW!!!

The Bukkaking.5482:

if you are gonna make fractal weapons cost pristine relics, it should be 50+ to be fair to those of us who grinded a lot of 40+

otherwise every joe who does daily 10/20 everyday would have one in a week

I agree with the OP and you, I think there should be a way to get them with pristine relics and even if it was 50+ to get them that’s OK too but at least that way there would be a clear path to getting the one you want.

I have actually been pretty lucky when it comes to getting FotM skins (have 12 so far) but very unlucky in getting the one I actually WANT. There is one skin that I want very bad (GS) and two others that would be nice (shield and rifle) but they just don’t want to drop for me

I would love to be able to trade in some unwanted skins or some of my 40+ unwanted rings to be able to get the skins I want.

Maybe make a mystic forge recipe for 3 unwanted skins + 10 gs hilts (or whatever for the type of weapon you want)

Just something to give a clear path to acquiring the skin that you will actually want and use.

What makes me mad is that they wont even say weather or not we will be able to, there has been many threads about this and NO word from them, so we just have to sit and wonder or throw away our laurels, and thats BS

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Vayne.8563:

Every single one of those games you listed started as pay to play and charged money for months. Sure they’re free to play now, but they also took $15 a month (the price of 1.5 character slots) every single month.

If you played SWToR since launch and 7 motnhs in wanted another character slot, you’d haev paid by that time $90 just to play the game. Right now, you can in fact use SWToR as a free to play game…as long as you don’t want to do anything. In fact, many subscription games even have a cash shop in addition to a monthly fee.

Guild Wars 2 gives you five slots, one for each race. Not everyone needs to play every profession. In addition, of the games you listed, it’s the only one that allows you to farm gold in game to get it, instead of using real world cash.

I think you might want to look up backwards in the dictionary, I’m not sure you know what it means.

I’m sorry, but did you pay monthly for character slots? No, you didn’t. I don’t have a WoW sub anymore and I still have all 11 of my character slots (that’s not counting the extra 50 or so you can make on other realms as well). They aren’t gone because I am no longer paying monthly. Heck you can play WoW for free now and still get 11 character slots. Just like all those other games. You didn’t pay monthly for character slots.

And GW2 is in the ranking of these top P2P MMOs. When these top MMOs are giving you all slots to make all professions/classes and then some, then GW2 is lacking in that department. It doesn’t matter if you are paying monthly or not.

What was it they advertised? Oh that’s right. GW2 offers you all the benefits and features of a P2P AAA MMO, without the monthly fee. So why am I limited on character slots when a P2P AAA MMO has them? So much for all the benefits and features of a P2P AAA MMO right? Instead they limit us to 5 and make us use the cash shop if we want to experience the rest of the content. Because that is what AAA MMOs do right? Oh that’s right. They don’t.

So yes, they did go backwards on that feature. While other AAA MMOs are giving us all character slots for all professions/classes, GW2 went in reverse on that feature and limited our character slots to only 5 out of 8 professions.

Now try going to look and see what all the things you CAN’T do in WoW as a FtP.
http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/11/08/what-wow-free-to-play-players-can-and-cannot-do/

In GW2 we can do EVERYTHING, we can level to max lvl and are not hindered, so they try to make a little money off people wanting 10 alts!! God forbid a company that actually needs to make a profit to stay in business HOW DARE THEY!!!

What about the 15% Karmic Infusion

Minion of Vey.4398:

Flamenco.3894:

What kind of materials should one be able to salvage from an ascended item?

Salvaging ascended could have a chance at getting the various fractal mats like vials, globs, shards etc.

Maybe salvaging a non infused ring has a good chance at a vial, small chance of a glob.

Infused one would be good chance at a glob, small chance of a shard.

Wouldn’t really be anything special but it’d be something.

The problem with that is you would still end up with useless crap. I have 42 Shards and nothing to use them for, I already have every infused ring I could ever want.

To be able to use something like this you would have to have waypoints and the map already uncovered otherwise lower level players could get to maps they haven’t been to yet. If it reset simply by porting out a lvl 1 char could work their way to lvl 80 maps with little to no effort at all. At 100% map completion you have seen the game the way it was intended and than rewarded with being able to explore and admire in peace.

It would have to reset you back to your starting location when disabled so ensure the intended mode of travel was used instead of using it to get to your desired location without fighting your way or paying to waypoint as they intended.

It would be great if there were an Explorer Tonic that could be used to go out exploring the map and be able to take the time to simply enjoy the fantastic scenery and art in this world.

Here is how I think it could work

You receive the explorer tonic when you reach 100% world completion. While under the effects you are locked into your town clothes (so I can use my broom:) and have full movement abilities but mobs ignore you and you can not attack them, you can not engage with any world items like chests or gathering nodes. Jumping puzzles can be done but not count towards achievements. We can still see other players and mobs around us but can’t interact in any way. Any and all achievement progression disabled while under the effect of the tonic. Would not work in WvW. When you stop the tonic effect you are instantly transported back to your location when you started the tonic effect.

There are so many beautiful areas in this game that we are never able to truly enjoy because we have to spend our time defending ourselves and can’t just stop to look around. In the snowblind fractal at the ice elemental, I looked up once and about died when I seen what the whole ice elemental looked like. I pointed it out to my group and none of them had ever seen it either, most people think its just some weird sliver of ice we are fighting. The sky at the Jade Maw and all the things floating around in that area are fantastic. Don’t get me started on Cliffside… WOW!!

In GW1 we could just vanquish an area than were free to play around in the zone and enjoy it as much as we wanted. Please consider of giving us a way to admire all the beautiful art and all the hard work that went into this wonderfull game.

Kromsin.6359:

I guess they want you to run their FOTM..

Wrong, can’t even get them in FotM

Where does real money come in to this at all?

Fred Fargone.3127:

Uhm, I seriously do not think fractals need to have any more incentive for people to do them.

Besides, the stuff you can buy with fractal relics is pretty good.
Do you have the capasitators for each of your alts already?

I agree there are some very nice items you can get with relics BUT once you have all you need the relics just start piling up in your bank.

In other dungeons you can spend the tokens on gear that can be salvaged or dumped into the mystic forge, so there is a reason to play them and a use for the rewards. I have an entire bank slot filled with relics and nothing to spend them on, I have all the 20 slot boxes I can use, I have ascended back pieces and no need for any more skill points or shards so I just keep loosing more and more bank space.

I like FotM but will have to stop trying for my Fractal GS soon because my bank can’t take the load much longer.

Nabrok.9023:

blinkxzero.8035:

Nabrok.9023:

Alarox.4590:

Nabrok.9023:

Oh please, you’re not forced to do anything. So you don’t do the daily everyday, you won’t get the item you want as fast as others, but you can still get it eventually.

Exotics are almost as good for any purpose other than providing AR for fractals, and perhaps even better in some cases as you have more flexibility in what stats are available.

And they are supposed to be adding more ways to gain ascended items, including through WvW and crafting. I hope they add this soon, the value of having a jeweler is already greatly diminished with accessories now apparently being added. Please don’t do the same with the armor and weapon crafting professions.

Before it was easy. Get to 80. Get your exotics via WvW/crafting/dungeons/TP. Go have fun in WvW/PvP/Dungeons. The game had a good looking future as it seemed like a lot more open-world PvE content would be added, new dungeons would be added, WvW would steadily be improved, and PvP would receive significant attention to fix its problems and make it e-sport material. Almost none of that has happened.

As a result we get grind. The game was fine the way it was, all that was needed was problem fixing. Instead, we have the game before, except if you don’t want to be behind everyone else you have to spend many hours (cumulatively) doing things you don’t want to do.

There’s many ways you can improve the game. Adding grind is not one of them. It doesn’t improve the quality of the game. What it does is mask the problems and give us a different motivation to play besides fun and cosmetic progression (when that’s all we needed).

I don’t see the grind here. You come in, you do your dailies, 90% of which usually gets done without even trying, eventually you have enough laurels for whatever you want.

Play the game as you would anyway. Get rewards.

Where’s the grind?

No, now I spend 20+ minutes every day in Queensdale doing the same stupid events over every day and gathering COPPER before I can go out and actually play the game the way I want.

I tried doing 3 paths of AC before working on my daily the other day and only got to 25% Daily completion. So back over to Queensdale to finish it up… what a joke.

Make the daily a weekly so we don’t have to log in EVERY DAY to res dead NPCs and hope my teammates die so I can res them would be a good start.

That’s your choice to do the dailies that way. I’ve done every daily since laurels were introduced, and most of the dailies before that. Never once have I done them the way you describe.

Also, after todays patch we’ll have optional dailies so you only have to do 5 of the 9 or 10 options they give us for that day.

That’s because you have a different play style, some people play differently than you. This game was supposed to cater to all different styles of play.

I do mostly FotM trying to get my fractal greatsword that I want so bad and keep getting every weapon BUT the GS, so after spending my time doing that (which I choose to do) I am forced to run to Queensdale just like the poster above and get my dailies done.

That is exactly why I think I should be able to exchange dungeon tokens, fotm relics, skill points etc…. any of the 100 different currencies for one universal currency and acquire the new ascended gear. That way no matter what you enjoy doing you can still make your way to the desired goal.

Jyuno Terkar.7318:

As long as you’re playing Nikon, you’ll get to where you want to be. It sounds to me moreso that you’re unhappy with the rate you’re getting rewards.

Actually I have 3 exotic armor sets I use for different situations, 36 ascended rings eating up my bank, have 6 different fractal weapons (9 total I have a few duplicates), an ascended amulet, 2 ascended back pieces, all available bank slots and bag slots, everything needed for legendary wep except precursor…….etc… but the fact that I am sitting pretty well off in-game doesn’t defer my judgement on what would be fair for more casual players.

When I talk about those that cant play daily I am really not referring to myself I am referring to casual players in general, I am disabled and pretty much left with my computer for entertainment and get plenty of playtime. But I hear from a lot of friends that don’t have the free time that I have and it sucks that they are left out and can’t see decent progression in game without being forced into certain grinds or having to make sure to log in every day and dodge around in an arrow carts aoe field.

Actually I like the dailies I can get most of it done except for gathering, crafting and events in my daily FotM runs, I just think they should make the laurels more universal and provide more ways to get them for more casual players, and that would also let players play the way they want to play like Anet always said it was going to be.

I really don’t hate “grind” if its something I want to do, what I hate is being forced into a specific grind. I don’t want to be FORCED to log in every day and do the daily’s, I might anyway but don’t want to feel like I am being forced to do so.

If I want to play FotM all day long every day, or CoF P1 farm all day every day that’s my choice. That’s why I think they should be a way to convert all these different play styles and rewards from those things into one universal currency or add a way to obtain these items to vendors for all the different currencies.

For Exotic armors and accessories there were many different ways to obtain the same stat item, the only grind you had to do was if you WANTED a specific appearance item.

CassieGold.7460:

Why not just convert them to skill points?

I already have the Bloodstone shard for my legendary and now nothing else to get with the 150 skill points I already have banked up.

In all other dungeons there are weapons and armor you can buy with the accumulated tokens and even after you have the weapons and Armor you want you can still buy and salvage them as a way to get ecto and spend your tokens.

After you gear all your alts with 20 slot bags and have all the shards you need for a legendary the fractal relics only serve to eat up your bank space.

I would love to see some cool Fractal Armor I can get with my fractal relics. The weapons are amazing (imo) and I would love to see some similarly themed armor.

Would also love to be able to at least convert Fractal Relics into Pristine Fractal relics to help reduce bank space needed to save them up.

TooBz.3065:

I agree with your points, but I think the reason for laurels is to make sure it takes 180 days (less counting monthlies) to gear up a toon. This slows the gear progression while still giving people who need something to work toward something.

180 days for those that have the ability to play every single day, but for casual players that can not log in every day just to watch npc’s die so you can res them, and dodge around in lava fonts it will take a LOT longer than 180 days.

First a rant followed by what I think would be a perfect solution.

If the only way to get the newer ascended gear is Laurels and now apparently Guild Commendations Anet is forcing me to log in daily and do specific things daily.

With the rings I could log in and spend an entire Saturday hammering away in FotM getting 2-3 daily chests and a chance for a ring or at least building up some pristine relics to get one of my choosing. I could play one day a week and still get some decent progression towards my goal. Now with Laurels if I am only able to play one or two days in a week I am never going to get any more ascended items.

I know daily’s are easy to get and relatively fast to do but seriously 30L for an amulet 40L for what I assume are earrings and 35L for a ring, thats 180L for a full set, that will take months for those that can play daily but for those that can’t play every single day its never going to happen. And alts?? yea good luck outfitting an alt.

tldr: My idea of a perfect solution would be Laurels as the universal currency (yes I know I was just complaining about them but wait).

If I like to run dungeons all day long I should be able to trade dungeon tokens for Laurels. If I love FotM let me trade my Fractal Relics for Laurels. If I like WvW let me trade my Badges for Laurel. If I just like running around killing things and gathering loot all day long let me buy my Laurels with Gold or ecto.

Let me play the way I want to play, do the things I like to do and still be able to acquire the BiS

The biggest problem is that once you have the rings you want from FotM, every char is decked out with 20 slot bags and you finally get the Fractal weapon skin you want, there is no more point to doing Fractals at all anymore unless you hate your bank having any available room in it.

The only reason I continue doing FotM is because I want the Fractal GS but my bank cant hold much more, I have 5000+ Fractal Relics and 45 Pristine Fractal Relics and nothing to get with them so all they are doing is eating up an entire bank slot almost along with the bank slots holding my 34 rings that cant be sold, mystic forged or salvaged.

There should be a few changes in my opinion, we should be able to upgrade relics to pristine relics, we should be able to buy ascended gear with pristine relics and we should be able to do SOMETHING with all these rings.

Rings were made available through Laurels because people complained that they wanted to be able to get them if they didn’t want to play FotM, and I think its great that they gave people that option but ascended gear is the only way to get higher AR to be able to progress higher in FotM so it only makes sense to be able to acquire that gear through doing FotM.

I do enjoy doing FotM, I do a 26 or 28 daily and a 30-36 daily as often as I can but after I get my GS my bank can’t handle it anymore and I will have to stop doing them and that sucks.

For those that will inevitably give me ideas on what to spend relics on, I have all my mats for a legendary already so have no need for shards or skill points, I have 3 ascended back pieces and every char I have is decked out with 20 slot bags so I am just stuck pileing up all these relics.

I have done 26-28 and 30-36 (one of each scale lvl) daily for well over a month now, the last 10 days have gotten nothing (glad not to get any rings already have 34 of them) but other than the last 10 days my luck hasn’t sucked. So far I have gotten Stafff, Spear, Trident, Warhorn, Axe and 2 Hammers too bad all I actually want is the GreatSword.

Another +5AR is all I really need since I don’t plan on going past the FotM 30’s scales. Since they didn’t let us get amulets with pristine relics I don’t see much of a point to FotM past trying to get the weapon I want. So an extra +5AR for FotM and a MF or +gold infusion for everything else I do would be great.

In a perfect world (imo) we would be able to get all ascended gear with either Pristine Relics or Laurels depending on how we want to play but……

I haven’t seen any word on whether or not we are going to be able to infuse amulets in the Mystic Forge to get an inherent +5AR. It is kind of important to know because with rings if you add anything to the infusion slot than infuse it in the Mystic Forge for the inherent +5AR the infusion in the slot is destroyed. With amulets the infusions are going to cost 10 days worth of working on dailys so I don’t want to add any utility infusion until I am sure whether or not we are able to upgrade them to an (infused) version.

I think I have gotten a little lucky when it comes to getting Fractal Weapons but very unlucky in getting the one I actually WANT.

So far I have gotten 2 hammers, a trident, a staff, a warhorn, a spear and an axe. All I actually want is the GS and maybe the shield.

So in one aspect I would like to be able to trade my 30 Pristine Fractal Relics for the one weapon I have been trying for (I have 36 pristine so that’s 36 attempts) but also not hating getting them as drops either.

The only facet of the hunt for a Legendary that I don’t care for is the precursor. I have been working my way towards Twilight for awhile now and have had no issues getting most of the materials from just having fun playing GW2.

I never really tried WvW for more than 5 min here and there and to get the badges I had to actually give it a go and now I have a lot of fun going into WvW once in awhile, I got my badges from battles and from the jumping puzzles and now enjoy both.

I never tried any of the dungeons unless required by the story-line which I think that was only Arah. When I had to try out a dungeon to obtain the Gift of Ascalon I found I really enjoyed it and now have a full set of dungeon armor and weapons.

Gift of Exploration for me was easy because one of the things I did from the start was to get 100% on a map before I would leave it.

And so on……Gathering all the materials for a legendary greatsword was fun because it had me trying and enjoying all the different ways there are to have fun in this game.

But now to the precursor, the only SOLID way of getting a precursor is to pay someone else for their great RNG luck and the price for that luck grows daily. I have the luck of someone that just dropped a mirror in room 13 floor 13 of a haunted hotel with a time bomb hidden in a dark damp basement infested with rats, so plunking rares into the Mystic Forge all day long makes me want to just not even try.

I think the precursor should be like the rest of the materials, make me try other things in the game with a guaranteed reward, even if it takes me awhile to save up 200 tokens of this and 300 badges of that I just want it to actually be in sight not having to rely on my own crappy RNG or the fabulous RNG luck of someone else that wants to sell it to me at a ridiculous price.

If Anet wants us to throw rares into the MF to get it maybe give a token for 3 rares + donation wrapping (or whatever) and require X# of tokens, at least that way you could see an ending, not just throw stuff in and hope just to be let down over and over and……

I liked the light source from the Mad Memories back piece so when I crafted Koss on Koss I transmuted it to the Mad Memories appearance, now I just infused it and the appearance reverted back to Koss on Koss and I am NOT happy!

When we are able to do higher level fractals than what we have actually completed is there going to be a way to see the actual level of all other players. If I were forming a party for a level 30 fractal I would not want someone who has not even completed 1-10 to join in without the rest of the party knowing and agreeing to carrying them through.

This could end up being a real issue spending hours trying to make it through high level fractals with someone that doesn’t know what they are doing. It is bad enough after certain levels people make you ping your gear to make sure you have their opinion of the right amount of AR.

In my opinion you should only be able to join a set number of levels (say 5) over what you have already completed yourself. That way it would still make it easier for lower lever players to progress while protecting higher level players from having to waste hours of their time.

So those of us that busted our butts keeping all 5 alive should have just waited until it was made a gravy train??

Lexy.3912:

I would have to ask, if a legendary is your preferred goal why are you chasing fractal agony equipment? If you are doing fractals because you enjoy it or because you get good mats from it then does that really get any better as you climb the ‘fractal ladder’?

I am not necessarily “chasing” agony equipment, I enjoy the fractals of the mists, but as you progress you can not go farther without agony wiping you out, and yes an added benefit to enjoying doing the FotM I do usually get decent drops there as well.

FotM is, in my opinion, the only part of this game that does require way too much grind to obtain needed equipment, weather it be grinding for all the skill points you need to aquire the gear or grinding for the mats it needs etc…. No other items NEEDED to enjoy this game require this much of an investment in gold, SP and mats.

Like I said, the Legendary items I understand requiring a huge investment because they are just a vanity item that you do not NEED to be able to enjoy any part if this great game. Dungeon gear requires you repeat the dungeons over and over and…..BUT same as with the legendary I don’t NEED that I just want it so the grind is my choice, the ascended gear you NEED to enjoy FotM and requires way too large of an investment.

I am not against vertical progression, but when it is a needed progression it should be part of the game play to achieve or a slightly higher cost than the previous lvl of gear, not a grind to achieve.

I have no issues with vertical progression but as with the ascended gear it shouldn’t be a grind fest in order to achieve it, I think there should have been rewards to FotM that upgrade your armor as you progress through it or something like that.

I am goal oriented and loved playing towards certain goals in this game, but it seems every time I think I am getting closer, the goal gets farther away.

I have been loving my game play. I have been slowly moving towards getting Twilight and have no problems with it taking me awhile to reach that goal. Legendary items force you to play all facets of this game and I like that I have been able (forced) to play WvW, Dungeons, DE’s etc…. All areas of the game have been enjoyable to me so I am glad I was forced to try them all.

In comes FotM which at first I loved, I try to do at least one lvl of fractals per day, now to where I am kinda pissed. After you make it so far in FotM you just can’t go any further without agony resistance, ok no problem but wait what? You have to rely on RNG to get a ring, well that sucks because I have the worst luck in the world I swear, so, ok I have to run lvl 10 once a day for the daily reward chest and hope like hell I get one. Unbelievably with my luck I was able to get one, not the one I want, stats dont match what I run but I didn’t have to run it 50 days in a row like I thought I would so I can live with it until I get the one I wanted, OK whatever, WHAT it doesn’t even have any agony resistance built in? OK I have to upgrade it, 50 skill points!! Twilight just got further away, 100 pricey T6 mats? Is that Twilight even still in sight So I spend a bunch of my legendary funds and mats I have been saving and get a Precise Infusion and head back to enjoying FotM.

Now a bit farther into the mists agony is getting un-survivable again and I need some more resistance. Time to get a back piece, you have GOT to be kidding me 24 more skill points, 250 Insanely priced T6 mats and 50 ecto! and NO AGONY RESISTANCE so here goes ANOTHER 50 skill points and 100 T6 mats. Later when I am forced to Infuse my back piece to survive FotM it takes 250 ecto and infusing it removes any infusion you have slotted so you have to get ANOTHER infusion taking ANOTHER 50 skill points and 100 T6 mats.

I can no longer see Twilight in my future, hell the precursor is up to 500G let alone everything else you have to have.

After all that whining above (sorry about that) my complaint is, ascended gear shouldn’t be so insanely priced and hard to get just to be able to enjoy the mists, I understand the legendary weapons being very hard to achieve, you do not NEED a legendary weapon to enjoy the game and it should be something to work towards. Ascended gear IS required to have and is just WAY too costly. This game is touted as a no grind and when ascended gear came into play that no grind was blown out the window.

I enjoy doing diffrent things every time I log in, there are certain things I do on a daily basis, like the WvW jumping puzzles for BoH’s, a few diffrent dungeons to get better gear and finish any daily achievements left over for the karma jugs. I do not want to have to farm Trolls for a month just to get enough powerful blood for a backpiece so I can get back to playing FotM.

I’ll quit complaining now, just wanted to get that off my chest, back to grinding in my no grind game (ok had to throw in that one last whining dig :P )