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The problem is, that past 80 you still have the grind at Gw2 – but not the rewards. The only thing you can do is grinding Orr. Or grinding dungeons for Tokens. Ohnwait, you can grind sPvP for Honor. Do you seriously want to tell me that completing a dungeon 90+ times is fun for you?
So, obviously PVE is not meant to be played after 80 and after completing your exploration. You can achieve this pretty fast.
The only thing left to do is PvP. Unfortunately, at the current state PvP at Gw2 is zerg only and that makes it pretty unappealing and boring for me. Besides things like downed states, Mesmers, Thieves, Shooter mentality, Auto Balancing, Glory for kills only aaaand no rewards. At least you could give us some dyes. :p
100% dead on. And exactly why people are already bored with the game.
So how much “fun” do you expect to have with your character who fundamentally stays the same for the entire time you play the game? Really I’d like to know.
I just can’t believe people on this thread really want to make the argument that the Gw2 cosmetic grind model is different from the WoW gear grind model.
They are the same. It is not innovative.
It is different in one significant way; it does not impact your character’s effectiveness in a given scenario. In WoW, you HAVE TO grind gear to participate in raids, and then raid gear to participate in better raids, until you reach “Best in Slot.” You cannot ding 80, grab a starter set of gear, and run end-game content (this is slightly untrue at the moment, because Pandaria just came out, so end-game content is starter content, but you get what I mean). Getting the “Best” gear statistically in WoW is a HUGE grind. Getting the statistically best gear in GW is not. After you have the best stats, you are free to choose what you want to grind, whereas in WoW you have the ladder set out for you; grind this raid, then this one, then this one, etc. The freedom of choice is what makes it different.
Also, tokens that are redeemed for what you want. WoW has this in a sense with the tokens that drop from dungeons and raids, but they only by you a limited number of pieces. You still have to run dungeons and hope for a drop to get your Best in Slot. Guild Wars 2 diminishes the luck element severely.
So how much “fun” do you expect to have with your character who fundamentally stays the same for the entire time you play the game?
ITT: Players bought an MMO with a well advertised PvP endgame, where skill shines over gear and were expecting something different.
What skill? How is there any player skill in this game? Please substantiate your claim.
Lol, why are you in every thread I’m reading trying to flex your “skills”. Seriously dude, you really need to get over yourself. I’ve found that people like you, people that flaunt how “skilled” they are, are often the least skilled in whatever they’re discussion. I’m sure you may think this game requires no skill and that you’re so amazing, but I very highly doubt that’s true.
I guess you can’t read. I said there are NO Player skill requirements in the game. Therefore, I did not contend to have any. The game does not even offer the ability to be skillful. I hope you can read one day, and deduce a logical argument. I hope!
It absolutely does require skill, and to imply it doesn’t is to imply that your are so skillful that it doesn’t require skill. Try doing explorable dungeons with 0 skill. It’s not going to happen.
You really want to say doing exp dungeons requires skill? Its the same as anything else. You go to the dungeon, you wipe, you learn, then you remember….. Not to mention, you just zerg each boss, avoid red circles on the ground, and of course play ranged.
please try again.
I just can’t believe people on this thread really want to make the argument that the Gw2 cosmetic grind model is different from the WoW gear grind model.
They are the same. It is not innovative.
ITT: Players bought an MMO with a well advertised PvP endgame, where skill shines over gear and were expecting something different.
What skill? How is there any player skill in this game? Please substantiate your claim.
Lol, why are you in every thread I’m reading trying to flex your “skills”. Seriously dude, you really need to get over yourself. I’ve found that people like you, people that flaunt how “skilled” they are, are often the least skilled in whatever they’re discussion. I’m sure you may think this game requires no skill and that you’re so amazing, but I very highly doubt that’s true.
I guess you can’t read. I said there are NO Player skill requirements in the game. Therefore, I did not contend to have any. The game does not even offer the ability to be skillful. I hope you can read one day, and deduce a logical argument. I hope!
So many of you would propose that if someone doesnt like one part of the game they shouldnt play it? Do you really want people to leave the game? Seriously? Yes people bought a game where skill is more important than grind, maybe they hadnt tried that kind of style before; this is likely their first foray into this type of endgame.
I like that I dont have to grind to do content, but to tell people to gtko is just childish and harmful to the community as a whole. People can have different opinions, it is no more your game than it is theirs. If players ask Anet for a grind and they deliver, will you leave? If so then keeping with your opinion; “good ridance go play something else scrub.”
Um… yeah. That’s why I’m here. The day ANet adds in a gear grind with incremental stat improvements is the day I uninstall and start looking for a new MMO. No hesitation.
The game does in fact contain a gear grind for incremental stat increases:
- Blue < Green < Yellow < etc etc
If gear does not matter, and there is no skill requirement from players, all you are left with is a zerg fest, thus: The Gw2 failed model.
ITT: Players bought an MMO with a well advertised PvP endgame, where skill shines over gear and were expecting something different.
What skill? How is there any player skill in this game? Please substantiate your claim.
Total waste of time and money. I wish I could get my money back.
There is literally no depth to the PVP in this game. WoW laughs at this game’s pvp.
WoW’s PvP is just a gear-based zerg-fest. I’m not getting how that’s any better. Please qualify your statement.
Um? WoW’s PVP Arena / Rated Battlegrounds is far from a PVP zerg fest. They actually test the individual skills of players. Not simply AOE everything down: Gw2
This game is for casual’s not anyone actually concerned with prestige or competitive online play.
The game requires no skill, and does not reward players for being skillful.
That is why it go away quietly in the night. I think if we actually did have accurate data on MMO players, it would reflect:
MMO players like being able to become more powerful than other players based on the time and energy they put into the game.
MMO players like being able to highlight their individual skill in competitive contest
MMO players don’t mind a grind, it if provides a means to be more competitive.
probably way more to this list, where Gw2 totally missed the mark.
Primary flaw in the game: It does not require any skill, so it does not reward players for being skillful.
I’m sorry dodging is not a skill metric that should be used in a zerg fest game.
Yes the game is F2P does that make it good? Clearly not.
Not innovative:
Everything is a grind
Exploring is akitten poor excuse for something to do in an MMO.
ZERG PVP, there is no skill requirement from players in the game. In WoW you can clearly tell a difference between skilled players and unskilled players.
DE’s are not innovative, its just a nice way to hide the usual questing mechanic. You are still killing x amount of this, or collecting y amount of that.
The big DE’s are so boring its sad. The Dragon/whatever sits there, does not move, is not difficult or rewarding to defeat. Simply lazy mechanics.
List goes on and on….
Total waste of time and money. I wish I could get my money back.
There is literally no depth to the PVP in this game. WoW laughs at this game’s pvp.
Please, by all means, substantiate your claims… I don’t really see it.
How about MOGOTY:
“Most Overrated Game of the Year”:
Endless grinds, no depth, zerg pvp, no skill requirements.
So bad, what a waste of time.