I realize common sense is in short supply for gamers. Anyone with a tiny itsy bitsy shred of it, knew this was an exploit.
Heres some common sense for you…
If its too good or too easy and you think, wow this great, Ill do this 100s of times in a short period…
You probably shouldn’t be doing it.
Well I better stop using the AH then.
Yea you probably should. Altho Anet hasnt ever done it, they and other games have specific clauses in the toss about playing the AH. WoW has banned 100’s of accounts over the years for monopolizing the AH.
I realize common sense is in short supply for gamers. Anyone with a tiny itsy bitsy shred of it, knew this was an exploit.
Heres some common sense for you…
If its too good or too easy and you think, wow this great, Ill do this 100s of times in a short period…
You probably shouldn’t be doing it.
Anet, you had mercy on the first big exploit with the karma weapons. Since then every exploiter out there has done every exploit they can find from the godskull to crafting to dungeons to farming. If you reverse this perma ban, all you are telling these people and anyone else on the fence, is that its ok to cheat. You WILL have more people exploiting if you let this slide.
Everyones morals are different. You have to stick with your own rules so that people will know what to expect. Think of these people as children. If you arent consistent, they will push the boundries over and over.
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Good job Anet. Cheaters will cheat if you let them. You should have kept the perma bans for the karma weapon exploit at launch and less people would continue to exploit. Keep the perma bans or all you will see is every cheater ramp up because they will know for sure they can get away with it.
For example, I found early on two items you could make while crafting that sold for 5 times what it cost to make. I knew tho this was an exploit and I reported it instead of using the exploit. Any person who did this snowflake exploit KNEW it was an exploit regardless what they say. They knew it couldn’t be intended.
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Soooooo many bad players in this game. I honestly think this community is worse than wow’s. I know for a fact i never puged with so many bad players as I have in this game. This topic is proof positive of it.
I have my Dm title since the second week of launch and beat her without full exotic gear or weapons. if some people can beat it and you cant, guess what, it isnt the fight. its you. Your NOT VERY GOOD.
i hate hate hate giving away strategies but the second phrase is extremely easy if your group can do 2 things. Dodge and fear. The agony ae is 100% dodgeable and any fear from any source lands on him and interrupts. What people are saying is impossible, my group is doing daily. If that makes me an elitist in your eyes then so be it. This fight is a good fight along the lines of lupicus and it takes coordination, knowledge of your class and ALL of its abilities, and a modicum of skill recognizing what and when to dodge.
Now you might be saying well why should we have to bring fear? Start thinking outside the box. Rogues can fear, warriors can fear, necros can fear. No group in history that has a balance makeup doesnt have 1 of those classes. Go into the fight and coordinate. From phrase 2 to 3 we dodge the first 2 AoE’s and i fear the third which allows enough time to get endurance back up to dodge the fourth. If you havent pushed him into third phase by that time, you deserve to wipe.
Honestly, i am not here to ruffle peoples feathers. Since the hotfix this fight is even better since the adds spawn correctly now. This is a very doable fight.
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The very MINUTE you quit doing ANYTHING in game or life just for the rewards, is the minute you will become truly successful. How about instead of looking for a material reward you start looking for a personal reward like knowing your getting better at whatever your doing be it in game or out. So many people are focused on what they are getting as a reward that they cant stop to appreciate the dungeon itself.
All of these dungeons have nuances that are totally missed by the playerbase and instead of enjoying the experience, the dungeon becomes an obstacle to overcome to get to what they want.
Its has been and always will be a failed game design that puts the emphasis on the reward rather than the experience. The WoW MMO crowd just doesn’t get this concept nor does most of the newer devs in this generation of game design. You end up with exactly what GW2 has devolved into. People crying for easier and easier content or bigger and bigger rewards day in day out and its a NEVER ending dilemma.
So the million dollar question becomes, How do you get players into a dungeon for little to no item rewards?
1)Take out random drops as rewards.
2)Dont design dungeons based solely around combat.
3)Put in spectacular views or down right neat places in the dungeon.(good example: the telescope at end of path 1 in Arah only make it “more”)
4)Put in Armor Trophies that people can see that you have done a truly challenging dungeon. These have absolutely 0 stats. They are there for others to see. They arent titles they are instantly recognized by all when you have done something not many other people can but has 0 power. The tokens for armor system of now would have worked better if they had had 0 and I mean 0 stats on them.
These are just some ideas.
My intent is to give the devs a full picture of what is being discussed. If only those who cant do the content come here and complain, then all the people who do play at a higher level get stuck with content that is too easy. I never said my group pulls him into a side room. We actually kill all the adds. We just dont try and take them on all at the same time. You can pull him to the cages and the adds become more manageable.
The argument that everyone agrees that its broken so it must be so isnt true all the time. Poor people complain about rich people all the time and whine because they cant seem to become rich. They totally forget that most of the worlds millionaires actually started out dirt poor. They were just better at making money than most people.
Lets face it, the average MMo player just isn’t very good. They complained about how impossible Lupi is in Arah on and on. A guy posted a solo video today of beating him legit. Just maybe, it isn’t the fractal that’s too hard. Maybe your just not doing it right or just not very good. i know its a hard fact to swallow.
Very well done sir.
I do not count the infinite spawns as a bug because they have ALWAYS spawned if you had done the event the right way to begin with. The trick to this fight is knowing where to pull the boss so that your not fighting the whole entire room of adds. My static group does this fight every single day since we always seem to get it as 1 of the 3. Sometimes multiple times a day. We have no problem beating this fight.
As I said before, only 1 thing is buggy and thats the seal not having its protective barrier around it at the very start of the fight. This is what causes the first wave of adds to not spawn. Once that is handled, the rest of the fight is beatable in the way the devs designed it.
As far as the guy saying that games are supposed to be fun, well challenging fights like this is fun for me. When people are able to cheese a challenging fight, that takes my fun and sense of accomplishment away. If your not skilled enough to do the content, find something you are skilled enough to do.
Had no problem with this. Of course my group goes out of its way to do every dungeon the way the devs ment them to be done. Since we do that, we were prepared to do this event the right way, you know, the exact same way we have been doing it since launch.
Thank you for the fixes Anet.
So I guess these are all intended:
- add not spawning.
- add spawn infinitely.
- add doesn’t reset after wipe.
- Boss can start aggro and attacking you as soon as you respawn at the check point.
- Boss’s phase doesn’t reset and stuck in the AOE phase.Get off your high horse.
Only 1 of those happens happens if you do the boss correctly. Whatever tho. So many people here want to whine rather than beat the boss right. Every time they make a boss with some interesting phases like this one and Lupicus, the people who cant,wont, or too lazy enough to beat it come here and whine.
The seal needs to have its protective seal at the start of the fight. Once thats done, the rest of the fight is not broken.
I am still not getting WvW point bonus’ even after the last patch said i should be. I transferred to SoS 6 weeks ago and haven’t gotten the bonus’s yet.
Had no problem with this. Of course my group goes out of its way to do every dungeon the way the devs ment them to be done. Since we do that, we were prepared to do this event the right way, you know, the exact same way we have been doing it since launch.
Thank you for the fixes Anet.
Still looking prefer a guardian but any class would be welcome.
We have been clearing every explorable since the 1st week of launch on a weekly basis. Most of us have enough tokens for 3 to 4 more alts and having said that, we are looking to replace 1 person. We normally run dungeons in the afternoon and every night around 7pm central until we get tired of doing them. By that I mean, we might get a whole 3 paths in 1 night or we might get 5 fractal levels in the next. Just when the group decides its enough.
What we are looking for is people who like to have a good time while achieving everything these and future dungeons have to offer. What this means is.. we do the dungeons for entertainment purposes and not for the tokens. This doesn’t mean we aren’t proficient at them. Arah path 1-3 takes us no longer than 1 hour per path give or take a couple minutes. All 3 paths of Ac and CoF take no more than 20 mins per path with some we have done in 12 minutes. Etc etc.
We also dont run past mobs or try to glitch a boss for an easier fight. Do we clear every mob in the path in Arah? Nope but we kill everything along the way in a logical path to a boss. If you are a person who wants to make fights easier like pulling the Arah ape out of his room so he cant rez his adds, instead of using the staff and stopping him like the developers planned, this isn’t the group for you. Part of the enjoyment we get out of these dungeons is knowing we are doing them in the manner the devs tried to establish.
Last but not least, if you want to be carried or don’t want to spec for the team as a whole, this isn’t the group for you. Do we make you spec a certain way? Nope but its obvious a glass cannon build with 0 group utilities isn’t going to get the job done.
Again, this is a permanent spot on a dedicated dungeon master team so if you cant commit then please don’t apply.
Contact Innox or Somber Night in game. Also, we are on US servers.
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Good fix Anet. Wish you’d ban for exploits as well and you wouldn’t have to fix stuff like this.
Every person who is using exploits to beat dungeons are just bad players. I am sitting at 19 and have never exploited a single time. Know why? Because I take enjoyment out of knowing I actually earned my dungeon master title the right way. I take enjoyment knowing that loot isnt the main focus of my playtime. I take enjoyment knowing that while others are exploiting a boss or area, i and my group are good enough to beat it right. We are good players.
People who think its ok to exploit the fractals or any dungeons are just like the PvPers who think exploits are a good thing when killing other people. There is no difference. Your an exploiter and you deserve to be banned.
People play games to escape reality.
After spending 40 hours a week at a job for pay to receive limited resources to spend on their families needs, let alone any wants and dreams, then maintaining their household of cleaning, upkeep, helping kid with homework, shopping; they then turn to their escapism where they get a chance to feel like they can get ahead and receive a big reward.
You may call it being given a reward for no work but they have been paying for their emotional payoff of fun all week.
I actually feel sorry for these people. What a life that must be.
This has been both BY FAR the easiest fractal I’ve gotten (full PUG, 1st time, no problem) and the most frustrating fractal I’ve gotten.
And it’s really all down to RNG and communication.
But the easiest time I’ve had in here was with a full PUG and no voice, and the hardest time I had was a partial PUG with 3 on voice (other 2 PUGs).
It’s an example of bad RNG. It’s RNG where the wisps are, and RNG where/when the walls pop up, and RNG (to a point) if the camera will be helpful.
RNG? Your joking right? The wisp spawn in a 3 pattern set and ONLY those places. The traps are in the exact same spot every time. Every class has stability and at least 2 condition removal utilities. The walls spawn in the exact same place depending on where the wisp placement is. All of this is so far from rng it isnt funny. Fact is, your not paying attention enough to notice this. It isnt the games fault your not a good player. Its yours.
I suppose people who like grinds don’t accomplish much in real life, so they need a grind to feel like they’ve done something. The rest of us can point to real life accomplishments and don’t need to toil through grinds.
Such a silly suggestion. I like to work for things in Rl as well as in my leisure and play times. In Rl, I am a 22 year Naval vet. I was a Masterchief and veteran of 3 wars. I worked so myself, my family and millions of other people have the freedoms they enjoy today. Lord knows I didn’t do it for the pay. During that time, I saved and invested responsibly while other people wasted their income and now am retired at the ripe old age of 40 very well off financially.
As a masterchief and COB of a US submarine, I have seen hundreds of young men come into the service with the attitudes expressed here in this thread. Boy were they mistaken. As in my above post, no one is equal. How you work to achieve a goal in this life is the only thing that matters. That boys and girls is the truth in its most basic form.
You are confusing life and computer game. One of the pros of virtual world is that it doesn’t have to run on the same rules – it offers something different. For normal life, we don’t need games.
Well, I think it’s proven and generally accepted that while games/entertainment is not physically vital it is mentally and emotionally useful to have some outlet to pour your time into. It is similar to pets – while they are not vital to living, they do enrich your life and people who have pets live longer.
It’s not entirely about “I just need to have fun”, it’s more that “I need some time where my brain has a chance to stop dwelling on the rest of my life”. Other than sleeping, naturally.
And:
“How you work to achieve a goal in this life is the only thing that matters. "
I’m not sure if you dropped a word and meant “how hard you work” instead of “how you work” but both are equally important to consider.
Nope I said exactly what I ment. Working hard has very little to do with it. How you work to succeed is what matters. But this is wisdom that todays generation cant comprehend because everyone thinks they are the best thing since sliced bread. Guess what? You arent.
Honestly though if you have team members who listen and can follow instructions its extremely doable. Yes if they’re contrary kitten you will fail but same goes for most content in most games.
And this is the problem. If you do it perfectly, then of course it’s easy. Everything is. The problem is that no matter how great you may be, if you end up with a team that does not include at least three also great player/class combos, you have no hope of getting this one.
Soo instead of putting forth some effort and finding people that are decent at the game and not pugging the content, youd rather they lower the difficulty so that you can put forth as little effort as possible to beat the fractal? Pugging has always and will always be grouping with the most common and less skilled people in the game. You might get a good player every now and then but mainly its the people who arent very good. you know this and everyone else knows this. Why put yourself in that situation?
Want to be able to reliably beat the fractals? Find other people who want the same. it isnt hard. just takes a little effort on your part.
I suppose people who like grinds don’t accomplish much in real life, so they need a grind to feel like they’ve done something. The rest of us can point to real life accomplishments and don’t need to toil through grinds.
Such a silly suggestion. I like to work for things in Rl as well as in my leisure and play times. In Rl, I am a 22 year Naval vet. I was a Masterchief and veteran of 3 wars. I worked so myself, my family and millions of other people have the freedoms they enjoy today. Lord knows I didn’t do it for the pay. During that time, I saved and invested responsibly while other people wasted their income and now am retired at the ripe old age of 40 very well off financially.
As a masterchief and COB of a US submarine, I have seen hundreds of young men come into the service with the attitudes expressed here in this thread. Boy were they mistaken. As in my above post, no one is equal. How you work to achieve a goal in this life is the only thing that matters. That boys and girls is the truth in its most basic form.
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Funny read. I will point out 2 basic truths.
1: Every single person on this planet is different from everyone else. We do not clone people yet.
2: Work in its basic form is defined as a set of actions directed to produce or accomplish something. That is its definition. With that in mind, no activity ever performed required 0 work.
Someone pointed out sitting under a tree and watching birds. That required work to get to the tree, breath while sitting, rotate your eyeballs to follow the birds, send electrical impulses from your eyes to your brain who then works to interpret those impulses.
Someone also said games are ment to be fun and no work involved. Say that to a pro football player or any game that can have a winner. Everything in life has a winner and a loser. Trying to change that fact with the ideology of everyone deserves a blue ribbon, actually makes you the loser in lifes most basic principle.
No one is equal.
Theres a ton of poor people in the world as well. Does that mean no one can work hard and get rich just because more poor people cant do it?
See above post with the tip I gave and the other tip in the other swamp fractal is too hard post. These two tips make this fractal a joke.
Thank you for helping me make the point that you shouldn’t have to be ‘this guy’.
Voice communication and a static group make a lot of instanced dungeon content easier, even trivial – but if the lack of these is a barrier to entry level content completion it is certainly a design flaw by most definitions.
Believe me id rather be “that guy” than the person making this thread. Keep on screaming its impossible tho while “this guy” is beating the fractal.
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Theres a ton of poor people in the world as well. Does that mean no one can work hard and get rich just because more poor people cant do it?
See above post with the tip I gave and the other tip in the other swamp fractal is too hard post. These two tips make this fractal a joke.
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I’ve tried this one with a static group on voice comms who don’t drool on their computers. Without one of the two classes with portal abilities, this is only completable through sheer luck.
In a game that claims to have classes highly flexible in the roles they can fill, it’s just plain stupid to make one of the “Paths” of this dungeon 100% dependent on having the right classes in the group.
That said, I’ve found that for the most part, the Fractals dungeon as a whole fails in its objective of being fun. This joke of a Fractal, players who DC can’t get back in and are just screwed (and leave the group short a player), group can’t leave to pick up replacement manpower if needed…
Untrue. You may not be able to complete it but that doesnt mean everyone cant. Up your game.
Just because I am feeling charitable let me give you a tip. There are 3 wisp. That leaves 2 extra players not running a wisp. What are they doing? Here it comes… rdy? They run in front of the 2 farthest wisps and set trap off before the runner gets there. Any kind of stun removal gets them free of the trap instantly. Load up your stun removal utilities that EVERY CLASS HAS MULTIPLE of and this becomes cake.
Now tell me again about your group having no droolers.
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Easiest dungeon in the game hand down. I have yet to have my static need more than 2 trys to get them in. Hell my warrior runs a wisp in with the boss spamming his axe and agony the whole way and I still make it.
I’ll give you a tip so so I don’t get an infraction for being “rude and dismissive”.
Have your highest mobility player on the farthest one. This can be a thief or mesmer or warrior. Second highest mobility on second farthest etc. Count to 3 grab wisps. Run them in. Its as simple as that.
Again my warrior with shake it off and swiftness runs a wisp in with most times the boss is hitting me as well as any mobs and agony to boot and we still complete it.
The dungeon and mechanic isnt broken. Your just not doing it right. Psst know where the trees can spawn and plan ahead the route you will take if it does.
Easiest fractal in the game by FAR. Takes no time at all.
Then again, I have a static group on voice comms who don’t drool on their computers.
Oh…..dear.
I’ve only just started my ranger. Guess I should have rolled an engineer after all.
Despite all the bellyaching, Ranger is still a pretty good profession. It’s excellent for PvE and with the right builds can be effective in dungeons, W3, and sPvP.
It’s just that we were promised something that wasn’t delivered. Just a little disappointing. Most people are just angry right now.
You are downright fooling yourself if you think ranger is even close to the effectiveness of other classes in PvE or PvP. You either have no frame of reference or just cant do simple math when you look and compare abilities between the classes.
After the shortbow nerf, I made a warrior. I was once like you and thought ranger was decent. It doesnt hold a candle to the warrior. I then made a thief and an engineer. It doesnt hold a candle to those classes either. Its not even a close comparison.
I knew when John lied about the shortbow changes that the ranger was screwed. It was an obvious lie and coverup how the change went down.
Ask me now tho if i am mad about the shortbow nerf. My answer would be a no. It made me make my warrior. Do yourself and any group you join a favor and make a different class.
Most often the problem is not player ‘skill’, as this is based on experience and you need to play the content to gain such experience, but about ‘build’ and ‘tactic’.
What i don’t get, however, is why people are so reluctant to ask for help when they’re constantly wiping and their only way out is to say that dungeons are too hard. We have enough Dungeon Masters by now proving otherwise.Define “tactic” please, without using elements that are only Build-Based or fall under Dodge-spamming …I ask because this goes back to the old “BuildWars” argument that the Devs promised us would be less prevalent in this game
(and plz keep in mind that you’re not talking to some newb who struggled through any of this stuff. I barely died at all in my first Explorables b/c I did them with a very skillful guild at release and we were all on Teamspeak)
Ill give you some tactics.
1) Thief with smoke screen and any person in the group smart enough to combo off it.
2) Guardian and reflect wall = best ability in the game for dungeons hands down. This ability makes trash into easy mode.
3)Any character with a daze.
4) Any class with a knockdown. Every class has multiples.
5)Any group that builds around vulnerability. 25 stacks and watch any mob in the game melt like wax.
6)Quit thinking downed=dead. If a person actually dies with the plethora of instant revives available to every single class then you deserve to wipe.
7)Any combo field with people who can get away from tunnel vision long enough to use them.
8)Dont wear full dps gear and 4 signets and 0 utility.
9)Using line of sight and choke points to funnel mobs into your AE.
10)Using a ranger, thief, necro to single pull every dungeon. Psst those 3 classes can do it on 95% of the mobs in the WHOLE game. Mesmer can do it on about 60%.
And there you go. Do the above and youll be back here in a week saying how easy this crap really is.
Edit. I play a dual axe warrior. Do you know I actually TRY to get downed when im low health and waiting on my heal? I will take a shot ment for another member just so ill go down because of 3 facts….
1) my group is sooo good about reviving that i am literally down no longer than 3 secs before i am revived.
2) When I am revived I actually have more hp than if I had originally used my heal.
3) I actually lose less dps doing this than if I had backed out and waited on my heal.
Being downed doesn’t mean you failed. Its a core mechanic. Learn it, use it, and soon you can be a dungeon master as well.
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The ‘learn to play’ argument is very much in power, as much as i hate it to be.
Stop with the using it then. (And the “crying on the forums”).
And I don’t care what you say, dungeons are too hard, yes I am a casual player, no I don’t want to spend weeks “learning” how to do a dungeon, or weeks just getting the kit to be able to do a dungeon..
They are just stupidly hard.
Ah this is yours as well…………..
Hmmmm, a copy and paste job.
Umm I think your equating casual player with bad player. I know many many casuals who have the dungeon master title. I dont know any bad ones that do.
Bad camera angles? are you rotating it with the mouse or the keyboard? I have yet to see any of these bad camera angles ever. Never had a problem with the clocktower jumping puzzle either.
These dungeons are not difficult in any form of the word. If you cant complete then then either you are a bad player, your group is made up of bad players, or both. Holy cow theres youtube vids on every fricken zone now with TUTORIALS. Your basically being spoon fed the content yet bad players still cant win.
TLDR: A bad player is a bad player. Sorry if that hurts your ego.
BTW I am not saying LTP. If you cant watch a video that shows you EXACTLY how to win or do any kind of research then I cant honestly tell you to LTP. Its obvious at that point that LTP isnt the answer for you.
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Anyone that says axe/axe is weak is fooling themselves. You GS warriors keep on thinking that tho.
Thank you for the change Anet. This is a good thing. I appreciate all the free content and I am looking forward to having something more to do.
I like this change Anet. Thank you for giving me something to do at 80 since I now sit at 3 level 80s in full exotic, 1600g, thousands of dungeon tokens(enough to kit another 3 or 4 alts out).
My whole guild and dungeon group likes this change and are looking forward to it. Smart move.
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Still doing tryouts till friday.
We have been clearing every explorable since the 1st week of launch on a weekly basis. Most of us have enough tokens for 3 to 4 more alts and having said that, we are looking to replace 1 person. We normally run dungeons every night around 7pm central until we get tired of doing them.
What we are looking for is people who like to have a good time while achieving everything these and future dungeons have to offer. What this means is.. we do the dungeons for entertainment purposes and not for the tokens. This doesn’t mean we aren’t proficient at them. Arah path 1-3 takes us no longer than 1 hour per path give or take a couple minutes. All 3 paths of Ac and CoF take no more than 20 mins per path with some we have done in 12 minutes. Etc etc.
We also dont run past mobs or try to glitch a boss for an easier fight. Do we clear every mob in the path in Arah? Nope but we kill everything along the way in a logical path to a boss. If you are a person who wants to make fights easier like pulling the Arah ape out of his room so he cant rez his adds, instead of using the staff and stopping him like the developers planned, this isnt the group for you. Part of the enjoyment we get out of these dungeons is knowing we are doing them in the manner the devs tried to establish.
Last but not least, if you want to be carried or dont want to spec for the team as a whole, this isnt the group for you. Do we make you spec a certain way? Nope but its obvious a glass cannon build with 0 group utilities isnt going to get the job done.
Again, this is a permanent spot on a dedicated dungeon master team so if you cant commit then please dont apply.
People that complain about trash mobs in dungeons just aren’t using their abilities well. Every dungeon and story mode can be 1 or 2 pulled. Every single one. Use a thief with scorp wire or a ranger with a pet, or body pull with ANY class(reminds me of my monk in EQ1). Not only that but every class has utilities that makes trash a cakewalk. Gaurdian, mesmer, engineer reflective shields make trash kill themselves. Use a thief,ranger, or warrior to relfect every projectile back to a mob. Use combo fields to do extreme dmg,heal and remove conditions.
This game is a friggen cakewalk once you do 2 things…
1)Quit thinking downed state = dead.
2) Build your character around group play.
Do those 2 things and I promise you, the dungeons all but complete themselves.
Man you guys just aren’t very good. Im talking to the people who continue to think this is a bugged encounter. I have used a ranger for poison, an engineer for poison,thief and a necro for poison. This fight is a pure DPS fight and nothing else. Use 1 person to get sparks in. Thats it.
The boss isn’t broken. Your just not good enough to beat her. Simple as that.
Robert lost me at ranger doing great dps. I started gw2 as a ranger. Got tired of all the nerfs with the sb nerf being the last straw. I have my dungeon master title,3200 achievement points(only 62 being salvage points) and I have 3 characters all in full exotic everything. The ranger is by far the lowest dps of the 3 characters. Warrior,ranger,thief. I have been in the top 5 guilds world wide in every game I have played.
I list all of that not trying to be elitist but rather to give some background and support of my next comment.
You are out of your mind if you think the ranger currently brings anything to a dungeon group that any other class cant do better be it dps or control. In a LOT of circumstances the ranger is actually a detriment to the group. Dont believe me? Do the captain in Arah path 2 with a pet who doesnt get behind a box. Do subject alpha where the pet can and will kill people because it gets its own set of ae circles. Basically, I can go on and list multiple ways the ranger is a detriment to a group. Sure, you can work around these detriments, but why bother when you can bring any other class and get more from them as far as synergy,dps,and group utilities?
It all boils down to….. you devs wont ever put in a meter because the sheer imbalance of the classes would be recognized by the average joe.
You think its me they aren’t taking seriously? Man you are all kinds of messed up.
Or what? Somewhere, someone told you that your opinion is the only one that counts. If someone has a different opinion, the best you can do is scream and shout and tell them to leave a thread that you aren’t even the OP of like your the boss.
And you’ve been calling me the child. Yea, ok.
I can say the same thing about you. Difference is, I have given you a strat, I have given you in game reasons why its a legit strat. I have logically laid my reasoning out to you.
You on the other hand has called me names, flailed your arms, given no evidence to support your claims other than your opinion and told everyone with a different opinion that they are cheaters.
who should the devs listen to?
I said complete the gate chain. I didnt say get people into arah around the chain. As I said in the other thread, keep on waiting for Sinin to be changed by the devs. In the mean time, ill be looting her chest and laughing at you.
Your just wrong man. I have tried to lay it out logically to you. You just cant grasp it. Keep on waiting for the devs to change this fight. In the mean time I’ll be looting her chest.
Every class also has stability. you are able to redo your traits as long as you are out of combat at any point. redo as in pick different major traits any time out of combat. people forget this feature. many of us have said over and over, going glass canon and dungeons just dont mix well. Anyone ever consider making a build with the foresight of thinking, well this major trait works in 90% of all situations but if I pick this other traits line, if i have to change for a specific encounter, ill have this other major trait for it.
Also it cost 3s to respec. Might want to when doing a specific dungeon. its a lot of work right? Sure beats wasting 2 hours on a dungeon because no one has the abilities to handle mobs in that dungeon.
She does. did her yesterday again. We use 1 person to get sparks in. Done it 20+ times. Much much easier to have 1 guy run and agro all 4 and then run around the statue till they all in. our mesmer has it down to roughly 10 secs. We pull her to middle of back cave away from any spark or spark agro.
people claim this boss is bugged. it just isnt. Sinin is not the exception to the rule. you must keep poison on her(provided by multiple classes. we have used a ranger,engineer, necro and a thief at one point or other) and you have to do dps to her while the sparks are being put in. it isnt an exploit. no other mob in this game that goes stealth or invis is it an exploit to do dmg to them. i cant understand why people think Sinin is different.
Thought about this more. name me 1 mob in game other than Sinin, that you cant or not supposed to do dmg to while they are in stealth or invis.
If you can do that ill gladly concede she is broken and you are right.
If you can’t, then tell me why Sinin is the only exception to the rule.
As i said in another thread Asagi. Attacking things while they are invised or stealthed is very much an intended mechanic in the game. proven by many npc mobs that stealth and you can still hit them.
Your throwing tantrums in 2 threads just because you think its bugged. That doesnt mean that it is.
The difference is… I have never said the gates to arah isnt broken. Nor is there a plethora of posts saying the gates arent broken. Your example is moot because in your example, no one is claiming anything else. The chain that leads to opening the gates can and will bug out but that doesnt mean that just because 1 thing is bugged and you cant do it means the other is bugged because you cant do it.
Theres lots of people completing Sinin in your so called bugged state. no one can complete the gates once they bug out. Your argument just doesnt make sense.