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Elaina Eldee is the greatest Edge Of The Mists commander I have ever seen. The other day we went the entire match without one zerg v zerg and we were capturing keeps non-stop. We were also getting scout calls every 10 minutes about our keep flipping and he kept ignoring the calls and letting our keep flip. This was when I knew that he was something special. I earned more karma from 15 minutes in Elaina’s zerg than I have ever earned in any dungeon instance ever. I’m working on crafting my 17th legendary and I hope he keeps commanding so that I can get enough karma to craft it.
Here is a video my friend made of a thief soloing a supply camp. He is by no means an amazing thief, but if you want to quickly solo a supply camp, here is a rough idea how to go about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4p3qi3_Dgk
I would probably take condition removal while in stealth over slowed pulse and vigor on heal over might on dodge. The vigor on heal would synergize well with death blossom spam evades and your heal, withdraw.
Shadow Arts: Resilience of Shadows- In WvW, stealth the people on rams who also have iron hide for a lot of damage reduction. It is also possible to stealth gates/siege weapons/walls so stealth those for reduced damage. Maybe the rams and ram users will now survive long enough to take down the gate. Stack up and blast smoke fields to lead a zerg through a choke point full of AC’s with 50% reduced damage. Stack stealth before a portal bomb. Using AC’s while in stealth doesn’t trigger revealed, so fire your AC away or get on a ram and stealth yourself for reduced damage.
My thoughts on this trait: Seems legit.
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Serene Solace
Maguuma
WvW
- Hard to catch gives stealth while being teleported away.
I like this idea for hard to catch, maybe give it 2 seconds of stealth. That would make it helpful in WvW if you got disabled while fighting in an outnumbered situation or in alot of AoE pressure.
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patiance is “1 ini every 10 seconds”
and i dont think ive seen patiance being buffed to " 1 ini every 3 seconds"?
I believe patience has always been 1 init every 3 seconds after initial 3 seconds, and that the current tool tip is wrong. When i was testing patience, this was how it was working for me.
I agree with you guys that it is a good thing to get rid of or it make harder to permastealth, I was just trying to think of a way that required minimal sacrifices to the current WvW D/P spec. You could obviously permastealth if you brought blinding powder/ shadowsrefuge/ smokescreen/ traited for init.
How viable do you guys think this idea is for permastealth with D/P?
Relevant Dec 10 Changes:
- init regen is 1 init per second
- infusion of shadow only gives 2 init if you arent already stealthed
SetUp
0/30/25/0/15
need 15 in Trickery for 15 total initiative to be able to pull off BP-HSx4
Patience for 1 init every 3 seconds
Bring Infiltrators Signet for 1 init every 10 seconds
- HSx4 = 12 initiative, BP = 6 initative. Bp-Hs combo requires, 18 initiative,.
- Bp lasts 4 seconds, you can recover 3 initiative to be able to land the last heartseeker
- 15(base init)-18(costofBp-Hs) + 3(init regen) = 0 .
- Bp-Hsx4 combo gives 12 seconds of stealth.
- After 12 seconds, 0(initial init) + 12(natural init regen) + 1.2(inf sig) + 4(patience) = 17.2 total initiative.
- That leaves you at .8 short for your next Bp/Hs, but Hide in Shadows(4s stealth) will allow you to permastealth.
Comments from a D/D WvW thief regarding Infusion of Shadow.
- D/D will probably become the new meta for thieves, the initiative regen is a huge buff.
- D/P will be split into two groups
- old 10/30/30/0/0 that still take infusion of shadow, doesn’t perma stealth, high backstab, high survivability
- something like 0/30/25/0/15 permastealth via:
BP + heartseekerx4 + infilitrator signet + hide in shadows on recharge + patience + buffed initative regen. Might need additional utility or quick recovery. High backstab. Loss of Shadows Rejuvination lowers survivability.
It’s nice to see that their is an actual choice between patience and infusion of shadow depending on whether you want to sit in stealth for a long time.
If the above permastealth build works, thieves sacrifice a little survivability and still maintain their ability of “being able to recharge all of their power while idling in a very long stealth.” Albeit, the level of difficulty is much higher.
fail permastealth math
- HSx4 = 12 initiative, BP = 6 initative. Bp-Hs combo requires, 18 initiative,.
- Bp lasts 4 seconds, you recover 3 initiative to be able to land the last heartseeker
- 15(base init)-18(costofBp-Hs) + 3(init regen) = 0 .
- Bp-Hsx4 combo gives 12 seconds of stealth.
- After 12 seconds, 0(initial init) + 12(natural regen) + 1.2(inf sig) + 4(patience) = 17.2 total initiative.
- That leaves you at .8 short for your next Bp/Hs, but Hide in Shadows(4s stealth) will allow you to permastealth.
I messed around with Assassin’s Reward in Heart of the Mist, and it looks decent if you plan to Heartseekerx4 into a Black Powder in WvW. I was getting like 244 health per heartseeker with next to no healing gear.