Guild Wars 2

Apologies in advance for my english

I know this should be put in the wvw discussion thread part of the forum, but more and more seems to me that the part of the forum is the the pit of the forgotten problem and player.

After the adopt a thread i did have a slight hope for a more wide discussion about all the problem plaguing wvw part of the game, but evidenlty i was wrong cause till now now even a shadow of discussion was opened about it or a CDI.

Without going further with a useless wall of text , that probable will be deleted anyway:

This is at the moment one the problem of wvw;

Server migration making some server stacked (even if not like before) and other left empty or almost, why so ? (in not exact order of importance or gravity):

- Matchup win by coverage;
- Unrewarding defence;
- GVG possible only on weekly matchup.
- WvW player are totally unrewarded and reward from ranking up are in most of the case ridicolous;

I know a big part of revenue are due to transfer, but pls make something, more wvw player will leave cause bored and even more server will be empty and less fun for wvw if you dont show some interest.

a wvw player

I don’t know how hard it would be to implement but making you see your character as the race you chose and making you see all the other characters as humans and the same thing applied to everyone so if you picked asura on your screen you would be an asura and all the other would be humans but for the other playerss you would be a human.

Obviously this may have some problems because if you are playing an asura you might think you are hiding somewhere and you are being seen, but shame on you for exploiting an unfair advantage.

I don’t know if this would work but it’s my sugestion

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Tyeme.6589:

WvW is like a rowdy bar right now. The hackers are running the show and ruining it for everyone else. When people say “roamer” I think “hacker” since I run into so many when I’m roaming. They are everywhere. Guy ran right thru a 20 man zerg solo….never slowed, and his health bar hardly wiggled.

Those are called “warriors”, not “hackers”.

Wellz; not that we’ve been there in a while, but roaming always is and was best in Silver imo, since we got pushed up by bandwagon free transfers roaming has been awful.

The amount of condi running around here is awful, and I’ve taken to hauling around Stealth traps just for that one Kodash thief who spends years contesting our Keep and is reportedly paid mucho gold to do so, not to mention the Deso gank and emote spam squads, because roaming 10 man is fun

Anyway silver is the way to go, the only thing keeping me as a roamer here is some form of loyalty to Gandara, that and I have 200 something Gold trophy finishers left saved especially for Deso. Although I won’t go in depth into calling them out as a wretched hive of scum and villainy, because with what I’ve written already I will be sporadically bold-texted into the ground about how Deso is the best thing since sliced bread by Deniara. In any case there is no server I, and many others, hate more. Their reputation is anything but ‘the best puglicious server’.

We need the obsidian sanctum to be server wide like edge of the mists
to challenge other people and guilds!

For the developers to stop saying “The Guardian is in a good spot”, and get out of that framework of thinking when it comes to Guardians.

Someone needs to inform Hugh and Jessica that matchup discussion is no longer allowed.

congratulation Deso
looks as if you win at least here:
http://www.gw2wvw.net/content/worst-server-fight-out-these-two-eu-final

To anyone considering moving to AG, I’d like to encourage you wholeheartedly; quite easily my favourite opponent in EU, always good fights, a great attitude and roaming and small scale in as much abundance as there are large battles. Aurora ‘Apollo’ Glade has always been a sibling server to Gandara, and the name I hope to see most every reset. I know with verity that the majority of the Gandaran community feels the same way.

The fact that you will not regret transferring to Aurora Glade is unequivocal, in my eyes.

AG, I salute you.

OMG trolly troll trolls – Off in the bad servers where the tumbleweeds roll and the twitchers and cannibals roam? Really if you have no idea about the lower tiers you need to come get a taste while transfers are free.

^^ maybe that’s a reaction to you getting Deso this week haha!

What i realy like to see is a dervish like concept.

Do you have screenshots of the combat log? And was one of them this guy?

I hope you don’t wonder why so many players left the game not even a month after release. That the endgame of GW isn’t really there is another discussion but there are some more reason that at most the hardcore pvper left your game.
I startet GW2 with many of my pvp friends from other games and we were all hyped from this game at most because of the great gameplay and other stuff that made pvp really great. I’m the last one from all these guys that is still playing your game and I can tell you why all my friends left, because they told me.
They were all great pvpers but they left because they dindn’t feel supportet by you.
There is still no reason to solo roam in this game even not as a mesmer or a thief.
And I have the feeling that the biggest part of the community likes zerging and isn’t interessted in having some good fights. But that is just because they don’t know that great feeling you can have while having a exciting fight against another player and the feeling of winning is even better.
But you don’t give these players any reason to discover this feeling beacuse you don’t support something like this. And in some parts I really can understand them… When you make WvW in a zerg than you can make around 4 or 5 levels per hour and many gold and loot without any effort but when you roam solo you can only make 2 or 3 levelups a day but of curse not by killing players. As a solo roamer you can make the most expirience just by capturing some camps or killing dolyaks.

I don’t really see that you are about to bring some changes and I saw your new WvW map. The first thing that I saw after one player left his keep was a zerg running over the map and I really had some hope in this new map.

I just wish that you would care a bit more for that what makes the single player fun.

Any solutions?

Solution to expected problems
1º in case of Suggestion 1#, a Team color with automatically have all registers closed off in case that the total community in that Team is 10% higher than any other server.
This sucks when you get separated by your friends, but that prevents Stackers from always choosing the winning team bandwagon and screwing up everything.

2º New methods of server balancing would be necessary to help with the auto-balance of Suggestion 2#. Some ideas that I could give to help that are written below.

3º Server workload:
That’s IMO, the biggest issue here.
With the way the current WvW is programmed, its simply impossible to make such a big amount of players fight in the same map. Pretty much all maps would get Queued 24h/7d and we would prolly have like 10 or more “Edge of The Mists” maps running at the same time to hold all the extra players.

Ironically this isn’t really that bad (don’t hate me), most PUGs can always stick to the Edges of The Mist since they are there just to kill some players here and there. Mostly because that since a certain PvP mode is conquest mode only, people that like to to PvP just for the sake of killing players ended up always on WvW. EotM would end up a interesting place for a good brawl.

For the the rest, I would recommend dividing the current Borderland maps in 3 different maps. Would work as 2 Front Lines and one Main Camp.

##Red##……………………………….
###Base## _ _ _ _ _ # # # #…….
……..###……………… # Red #….
………..\………………..# Border 2 #
…….##Red##…………….. # # # # …..
##Border 1##…………………………
…….####### ……………………………..

Invaders can enter freely trough both Frontline Borders, but can’t access the Main area straight off.
Each Border will have its on Garrison, and in the Garrison is the only entrance to the Main Map. That said, players can’t attack the main map unless the Garrison is down.

About the maps layout, both front lines need to give a slight edge to the defenders side pretty much like it happens in the actual maps. The Main Map where the “Team Castle” is, in other hand, a completely Biased map in the defenders side. After all is more than proved that in the current WvW, the attacker has the advantage most of the time.

If, and only if, the castle is taken down, the castle will be considered as Pillaged, or defeated and the invaders will get their usual prizes and be allowed to stay in the castle for 15 minutes. After that every invader is kicked of the castle and it flips back to its current color. That said, the Castle will never be flipped entirely and will forever be a place for any Nation to Rally their forces back to capture anything back.

Other stuff to add is that the numbers of defenders will always be higher than attackers. On the Main Camp, for instance, would be a difference of 3:1 to the defenders. Capturing a Castle should be something really hard to do.

Eternal Battlegrounds could be left the same. I wouldn’t suggest serving as a middle ground since it would create more problems that solutions. Free entrance for any Front Line border works better.

This would rise the total maps in WvW from 4 to 10. Add EotM to the count and you have plenty of space for a lot of players.

4º To help figuring out what servers contribute more to each Team and to improve that fights in WvW I would also make a few extra changes on the way PPT works:
- Double the amount of points gained per 15 minutes for each camp/tower/keep/Garrison. Reason Below.
- Make every death in the battle field add 1 point to the nation Score. This is interesting because in case that defending a spot is impossible, you can “deny” points to the enemy by killing as most players they can before the walls fall. Would work as a impact against zerks and Karma Trains since, depending on the defenders, capturing a point can give more points to the defender, even tough the attack was successful.
- “Finishing” a players grants 5+(Bloodlust stacks) extra points. That said, a team of Roamers can compete with a zerk in a amount of points per kill. In fact, since most players run away from zergs, Roamers are going to score more points than Zergs in general. This make fights in EotM important.

5º As a new general Reward system: Any solable content stay the same, including towers. Capturing a keeps will always grant a Rare, capturing a Border Garrison will grant a exotic. Border Castles will grant up to Ascended Itens.
- Depending on damage done by sieges, players and NPC killed and etc, the Guild and it’s members that contribute the most on capturing anything above Keep level will automatically flag the place and get extra rewards.

Could have written more, but this is getting a bit long already.
Discuss.
Please do

Congratz Gandara, true winners of Silver League.

Deso bugger off to were you really belong, gold league.

Dyno.9467:

all happy over the weekend until Tuesday, then Gandara start crying, pathetic. Cyas in season 2

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