Guild Wars 2

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 75+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

Given that some PIPS are based on rank why is that lower ranked players need to show more loyalty (in terms of time in WvW) than higher ranked players? Surely loyalty should be the same for everyone irrelevant of rank?

OriOri.8724:

Mirkava.8526:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Mirkava.8526:

How is this not fair, we Wvwers work hard for years and rank up, and 1 pver comes in couple of days and gets the same gear as everyone else?! it should be higher, for Platinum and up, let the old experienced players look a bit different with that t3, and you guys still have 2 more tiers that u can get. I really wish they did a tier for every part, from Bronze to Diamond, change in colors and effects or even the look of it.

1 day is hyperbole. It will take years to hit that and I don’t think its healthy game design to add ANY rewards that require years to accomplish. None of us know what stage in our life we will be in within the next year or two. Many players who are currently hardcore may have jobs, kids, and life activities that cause them to quit the game. Goals that take years to accomplish are a big deal. People will put more effort into this armor than many people put into getting their bachelors degree…. How is that good for a game? Make the rewards take 4-6 months for average players to attain and maybe 3-5 weeks for hardcore players. That’s a great balance that would award the hardcore players while still giving a reasonable goal to the average player who is excited about the game mode due to new cool rewards.

What I am trying to say, is that it is nice to give those ppl that worked hard for years something unique and special, not like everyone else, thats why they made 3 different tiers.

I still don’t understand this attitude. You would still get the unique WvW rewards if the rank requirement was lowered.

Plus, again just look at the corresponding PvE and PvP rewards. Anyone, literally anyone, could jump into the game as soon as those rewards were released and earn them in the same amount of time as someone who had been playing since release. This is the standard that ANet themselves imposed on the game. So why are so many people ok with this not applying to WvW as well? I really don’t understand it. When leg armor was announced, anyone could go and earn it, they didn’t need to spend thousands of hours in PvE to get whatever the PvE equivalent of WvW rank 2,000 would be, they could earn the stuff for leg armor at the exact same rate as someone who had been playing since launch and had all their characters in full ascended gear already with 30k AP. When the Ascension was announced, anyone and everyone could progress towards it at the same rate, with the biggest timegate being your individual player skill.

Why are you people ok with WvW rewards not working the same way? This is not the reward model that Anet has imposed on the rest of the game. There is no reason for the WvW rewards to be locked behind such a ridiculous rank requirement, none.

Perhaps, and I’m going out on a limb here, just perhaps Anet realise they have seriously neglected this part of the game and despite that neglect there are those of us who almost exclusively play it over everything else. I’d like to think maybe Anet feels a little guilty and wants to reward the dedicated WvW players even if that upsets the “I want it now” PVE brigade.

Moonglum.4659:

I agree with the first line of Kdaddy’s post. I play 90% in wvw and work for a living in the UK and cannot get on until 18.30 + GMT for 1-2 hours, which means I cannot play at all on my server as queues suddenly 60-150 (when previously 1-3 out of 4 lands would have no queue). Its a shame but that’s it, game over for me!

I am in exactly the same boat. In the UK, work til 6pm and now have 50-120 man queues.

One thing really annoys me about this -the fact large parts of the WvW community seems to think this is ok.

Let’s flip this round – Let’s say the next LW update map is locked behind a 120 man queue – do you think the PVE community would accept that? Do you think they’d say – “oh don’t worry, wait a couple of weeks it will settle down. Do some map completion or farming while you wait”. Of course they wouldn’t and Anet would never put them in that position – but it seems quite acceptable to shaft the WvW community in this way. I’ve been loyal to this game mode for years (I’m ranked over 2800) while it was neglected and now I’m supposed to basically suck it up. And I find it hard to understand how any serious prime time WvW player can defend Anet for the current situation

I apologise if this has already been suggested but I think the following would be useful.

A “Skritt Survey Device” (SSD).

When you activate the SSD you can set it to display all of the nodes of one of the three major gathering types (Ore, Lumber, or Berries, vegetables, and herbs) on your map so you know where they are without the need to run around and discover them. The survey will expire after 30 minutes or when you leave the map. Opening your map will show the chosen resource type. Only one resource will be displayed at a time.

The SSD comes in 4 varieties:

Bronze SSD – account bound with 10 uses
Silver SSD -tradeable with 25 uses (becomes account bound on use)
Gold SSD – account bound with unlimited uses
Mithril SSD – tradeable with unlimited uses (becomes account bound on use)

I would suggest the Bronze and gold versions would be available on the gem store and BL chests, with the Silver and Mithril only available in BL chests. The drop rates being adjusted to reflect the usefulness and possible on sale value.

The worst thing about the new scoring system is the ability to calculate how many hours you need to lead another server to get back into the lead on the VP.

Currently on AG/ROF we are 12 point behind AM/DZ – assuming we (AG/ROF) win a skirmish and they come second we need 24 hours like this to get even VP with them. Yes – a day and a half into this matchup we are already up to a whole day behind.

It’s honestly depressing and demoralising. I am really struggling to see why I should even bother for the rest of the week.

Add to that the fact we are red and don’t have bloodlust without capping someone elses (and who really wants to do that?) we don’t even get the benefit of added ppk.

Jayne.9251:

Belenwyn.8674:

I have angst that we end up in the same horrible situation as NA where three server are are so dominant that they almost never can fall down. I have been always quite happy that EU was different and the first 10 servers were very close.

Now we have for sure two dinos in EU: FSP and JS. VZ can maybe join the club of dinos.

In a perfect world they would have implemented and tested this in NA only, as it was mostly an NA issue, because EU was fine (and fun) prior.

Perhaps they can still consider this. EU will spread back out again if they did.

I agree. As far as I can see the only way they can fix the EU servers is to wind everything back to the week before linking and put every server back in the ranking where it was and forget the last few months ever happened.

Twinny.9304:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Hello everyone,

I know a lot of EU players are asking why Far Shiverpeaks is linked with Whiteside Ridge and Fissure of Woe so I figured I would clear up why this link was made…………

@McKenna, thanks for the explanation, but seen as your looking for balance would it not be a lot better to unlink T1 servers EU ( and perhaps lock transfers for a while) and start triple linking T5 servers EU? not saying that you will put them on par with current T1 EU but certainly make them more vibrant and populated MU’s to play in.
Also in fairness I cant recall a “recent” time when any T1 EU server has had a problem with any french combination, they avoid fights, so you poke at their structures and pull em out to play, win fights, make em rage quit, paint map.

P.S im an FSP player, we aint happy either, we think of ourselves as a strong fighting server, who now lacks quality, not directly from linked servers but from those that are jumping on board to be #1, please focus all your future linking in lower tiers (who need populating) not T1, french aint a problem, providing you dont start quadruple linking them too.

As a RoF player that used to be in EU bronze please do not make assumptions you know what the lower EU tiers want or need. A-net are making a pretty bad job of doing that without your support.

tony.9425:

I would even go so far to say its time for a merges instead of linking. The majority of the low tier servers are completely dead after the linking anyway at least people could build communities again which is the only reason that wvw wasnt completely dead btw.

Coming from a low tier server I can agree with a lot of what you’ve said – particularly about the cost of server transfers. As servers only matter in WvW the cost should be based on the current tier your server is in – not your population.

However I strongly disagree with the statement above. I think you are confusing “community” with “population”. I went through a couple of servers before I found one where I felt comfortable with the community and I would argue that we all had three years to find that. We had built our community and I don’t think we should have to build it again with a whole bunch of strangers.

Now I can hear you say “but server linking has put you with a whole bunch of strangers…” and you are right. Perhaps we on RoF were lucky that we got linked with WsR, an equal size server with similar views about WvW and I would say our combined communities have benefitted from that. Perhaps it would have been different had I been on RoS or Vabbi.

Oh and it’s wrong to say the low tier servers are dead – have you fought AM/MS or GH/UW recently?

Akkeros.1675:

totally off topic but agrees with what OP said.
I would like to see arena’s in major cities for open pvp action. All you need to do is enter the arena and fight anyone else in the arena. No points, no rules, just open pvp for fun.
The difference between that vs pvp mode is the lack of loading screens, maps, amulets only for gear, etc…
So, if the same can be done for wvw where people can just come in, fight in groups, have some since of evenness and maybe accrue points it would be great but i imagine it would be easy to manipulate with alt accounts, lol.

EOTM

Steelo.4597:

“To be honest I’d prefer to see all of RoF capped by AM than one camp capped by GH. "

do you think we didnt notice that most of RoF thinks like that? Only thing we wonder is why you guys are so kitten salty, what did GH ever do to you except steamroll you like every other server did?

I think you misunderstand what I’m saying. I don’t hate you. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in your earlier post that it’s only AM that brings blobs to our BL.

To be honest I could try to explain to you how before the whole server linking thing we (RoF) were stuck in a rut between the top of bronze, which we were too good for and the bottom of silver which I will freely admit we weren’t good enough for. We were led to believe server linking would make it better for everyone.

Well I’d be like to know how you and more importantly Anet think it’s now better for us? And we’re potentially stuck in this matchup for the next 6 weeks. The prospect of which isn’t that exciting for us and I think you probably feel pretty much the same way. It can’t be much fun “steamrolling us like every other server did”.

Please believe me I don’t blame GH or AM for taking advantage of what you’ve been given (I lay the blame firmly with Anet) . I suspect (or hope) RoF will be paired with someone else in a few weeks and I’m sure given the same opportunity we will do the same thing. But be careful – with server linking GH are only one bad pairing away from 8 weeks of hell. In fact every server is.

Steelo.4597:

RoF isnt being double teamed, you are left alone most of the day except for some ppt-hungry AM blobs cruising through your border after they tried our T3.

It’s not like a GH blob would come to RoF BL and flip a t2 bay when it’s 2 dollies from t3 and then leave, capping nothing else*. GH would never do that. GH are in it for the fights with AM and leaving poor little RoF and WSR alone.

To be honest I’d prefer to see all of RoF capped by AM than one camp capped by GH. The more ppt and glicko AM get the better. Perhaps then they will pass Augury Rock and we will get something different next week. And that reflects perfectly the sad state of WvW for RoF and WsR.

*Btw GH did that last week.

Here’s an idea – how about a tactivator or maybe even some form of PVE event where you power up a big laser that does damage to enemy keep and tower doors…

Hmmm…now I think about it I’ve heard that idea before somewhere…

So this is how it will go for RoF and WsR for the next 8 weeks -

4 weeks of being facerolled while the glicko sorts itself out (we’re currently losing nearly 100 points while AM and MS are gaining nearly 130 points) and one of the unlinked single language (i.e. German) servers tanks. Then 4 weeks of hopefully good reasonably balanced matchups assuming RNG doesn’t mess things up.

And then hope that the gods smile on us and we’re paired elsewhere. If not every 8 weeks will be like this. 4 weeks of demotivation and demoralisation before those of us left who can be bothered might just might get a reasonable 4 weeks.

Nice going Anet – you’ve made 50% of our time in your game no fun at all!

As a player on RoF I would like to echo the sentiments of our friends from WSR. One of the benefits of the RoF/WSR pairing was that we started with almost equal wvw populations. Therefore I don’t think either one of the servers feels like the junior partner. We have built good relations and have worked together well.

Given that I feel strongly that server linkage was forced upon us, to have the bond we have made with WSR destroyed now would, I think, harm both communities. And as others have said I don’t see how we can fight people we have made friends with.

We don’t need or perhaps have to be merged – but I believe permanent linking would be good for us – for both servers.

This could have possibly worked had the server population balancing actually worked but in the EU it hasn’t. We in RoF/WSR still DO NOT have enough numbers to counter GH/FoW and we are getting stomped all the time. We can’t even get a tier 3 tower on our BL and you want to reward GH/FoW EVEN MORE for having everything on their BL T3. It’s a joke. As I have said elsewhere on here – we in Bronze before the change didn’t ask for or want any of this. We had 3 years to decide where we wanted to be. We wanted to be in Bronze. We were happy.

And you still haven’t changed the cost of server transfers. Servers now only count for WvW so why does it cost more to transfer to the lowest ranked EU servers than it does to some of the highest?

I’m on RoF and tbh the server merger wasn’t that favourable to us either. Not that I have anything against WSR who we have worked well with, sharing TS etc. But we are now the lowest ranked wvw grouping yet the cost of transferring to us is still more than transferring to RoS or Vabbi. That needs to be fixed.
What annoys me most is anet have taken away my choice and the choice of many who liked being on a bronze server. We’ve had over three years to choose where we felt happy. Just because a few silver servers felt like they were being treated unfairly anet decided to take away that right, and in doing so have completely changed the nature of wvw for me and my guild.

Where is the famous DL “breakfast zerg?”…4 trebs on our keep and you still fail to take it. Has it become a “mid afternoon zerg?”